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1. 04:35 AM - Re: Hirth engine (Thom Riddle)
2. 07:26 AM - Re: Re: Hirth engine (Denny Rowe)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 07/03/04 (boyd young)
4. 08:59 AM - Re: Gap seal modifications for BRS canister parachute (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
5. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: Hirth engine (John Cooley)
6. 09:53 AM - MARK 3 FOR SALE (WILLIAM B UPSHUR)
7. 09:54 AM - Slingshot Excitement (Wayne F.Wilson)
8. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Hirth engine (Giovanni Day)
9. 11:45 AM - Re: Slingshot Excitement (Bob Bean)
10. 07:26 PM - Re: Wait til after dark! (Denny Rowe)
11. 07:28 PM - Travelin' (Larry Bourne)
12. 07:33 PM - Re: Fathers day pictures (Denny Rowe)
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| Subject: | Re: Hirth engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Steve,
The best source I know of for information on Hirth engines is the Yahoo Group below.
I think the bad rap on Hirth engines is way overstated and some of the newer
models are good alternatives to some of the Rotax 2-strokes.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hirthflyers/
Let us know what you do and educate us with what you learn.
Thom in Buffalo
Early FS 377
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| Subject: | Re: Hirth engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Kroll" <muso2080@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hirth engine
> Kolbers,
>
> I have the opportunity to buy a 65 hp Hirth engine for peanuts. And it's
NEW!!!! ...still in the shipping carton. My question is this: Is there any
reason anybody can think of that I shouldn't get this engine and install it
on my Mk-2? I'm fairly drewling with anticipation of what a bump of 18 hp
would do for my bird.
>
> Steve
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
Steve,
The biggest concern I would have is that the Mk-3 was designed for the 65hp
582 because a lot of folks were putting 582s on Mk-2s and Twinstars against
Homers advice and some were experiencing frame cracking.
The Twinstar and Mk-2 were only designed for 503 or smaller engines.
That said, we are now up to putting 100hp 912s on Mk-3s and flying them
around for hundreds of hours at the top of the green arc and into the yellow
arc with no apparent ill effects.
Rick Trader circumnavigated the USA in an overloaded 582 equiped Mk-2, and I
know of at least one original Twinstar that has a 912 installed.
I guess the bottom line is use caution, insure you get her tuned to run real
smooth (jetting - prop - etc), use the extra power carefully, and keep a
close eye for any cracking in the chromemoly.
I'll bet a lot of folks who have big engines on Twinstars could offer you
some advice on where to keep an eye for problems.
Let us know how things go and be careful, your going to have a real climbing
machine!!
Also, Congrats on the Good deal on the engine! I love GOOD DEALS !! :-)
Sincerely,
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, 2SI 690L-70, Powerfin F model, Gull doors.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 07/03/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
my isp has installed some spam filters i have gone from 100 spams a day down
to 2 or 3...... but i am afraid that i am not getting all the digest
postings......can someone verify if the june 29 and july 4 th digest emails
were sent out. i have been able to find the information in the archives..
so i know there was activity on the days in question.. but did not recieve
them here.
boyd mailto:by0ung@brigham.net
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Gap seal modifications for BRS canister parachute |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Tim,
My "solution" can be seen in the photoshare file for March 23, 2003. I
didn't build the MK III, but did install the BRS. My plane lives in a
trailer so the wings get folded after every outing. I really love the
compartment and light storage space incorporated in the gap seal.
AzDave
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Hirth engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Steve,
I second Denny's thoughts and he made a good point about the 912S on the MK
III. I have a MK II and would prefer to have a 582 on it. The 503 with me at
200 lbs and a passenger at 125 plus pounds makes me uncomfortable. I would
like the 582 for the take off and climb improvement and not top end speed. I
would use it conservatively if I had one on it.
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Later,
John Cooley
Steve,
The biggest concern I would have is that the Mk-3 was designed for the 65hp
582 because a lot of folks were putting 582s on Mk-2s and Twinstars against
Homers advice and some were experiencing frame cracking.
The Twinstar and Mk-2 were only designed for 503 or smaller engines.
That said, we are now up to putting 100hp 912s on Mk-3s and flying them
around for hundreds of hours at the top of the green arc and into the yellow
arc with no apparent ill effects.
Rick Trader circumnavigated the USA in an overloaded 582 equiped Mk-2, and I
know of at least one original Twinstar that has a 912 installed.
I guess the bottom line is use caution, insure you get her tuned to run real
smooth (jetting - prop - etc), use the extra power carefully, and keep a
close eye for any cracking in the chromemoly.
I'll bet a lot of folks who have big engines on Twinstars could offer you
some advice on where to keep an eye for problems.
Let us know how things go and be careful, your going to have a real climbing
machine!!
Also, Congrats on the Good deal on the engine! I love GOOD DEALS !! :-)
Sincerely,
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, 2SI 690L-70, Powerfin F model, Gull doors.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WILLIAM B UPSHUR <bupshur@juno.com>
To the group:
There is a Kolb Mark 3 for sale.
It is a quick build w/covering.
Jabiru 2200 80 HP (includes engine mount and propeller)
EIS (electronic)
Facet Fuel Pump
Sonic Battery
Matco Wheels and brakes
18 Gal. aluminum fuel tank
Kit complete including control cables
All control surfaces have been drilled for hinges
Value $23,000. Will take $19,000.
Contact:
Jo Stroberg
445 Woodland Church Road
Hertford, NC 27944
252-264-2240
This is a real value. Dave was an excellent pilot and builder. This
Mark III was his second Kolb build. He was a Avionics Electronic
Technician Chief and he retired after serving 23 years in the U. S. Coast
Guard. He developed cancer of the brain and died May 3, 2004. Jo
Stroberg is Dave's wife. If you are interested or you know someone that
wants a good deal on a Mark III, give her a call or write her at the
above address. I am sending this message because Jo does not have a
computer and is not familiar with the Kolb list.
Bill Upshur
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| Subject: | Slingshot Excitement |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne F.Wilson" <wfwilson1@yahoo.ca>
Excitement plus!!! Finally got running. Did about one
hour of Taxi testing slow and high speed. Hard to
keep it on the ground just leaps ahead when power is
applied even slowly. More testing to come but Flying
is not far away.
Much thanks to Woody and Andy without their help it
would not have been possible.
Grinning from ear to ear.
Wayne F Wilson
Slingshot 009
Amherstburg ON
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| Subject: | Re: Hirth engine |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Steve,
I would be very careful buying a new old stock motor. Are there any
Service bulletins? How old is the motor? Where and in what condition was
it stored? How are the seals? If you crash your plane or even have an
off field landing due to saving a little cash on the engine, it will
cost you money and time to repair. I would just advise you to ask the
hard questions about the motor and leave no stone unturned. Good luck.
Giovanni Day
MKIII/912 80566
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Kroll
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hirth engine
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
Kolbers,
I have the opportunity to buy a 65 hp Hirth engine for peanuts. And
it's NEW!!!! ...still in the shipping carton. My question is this: Is
there any reason anybody can think of that I shouldn't get this engine
and install it on my Mk-2? I'm fairly drewling with anticipation of
what a bump of 18 hp would do for my bird.
Steve
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Slingshot Excitement |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Wayne, adrenaline time , eh? Congrats and keep us posted.
-too bad all the Kolb builders don't share their accomplishments.
-BB, hating sheetmetal. do not archive
Wayne F.Wilson wrote:
>Grinning from ear to ear.
>Wayne F Wilson
>Slingshot 009
>Amherstburg ON
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wait til after dark! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> Enjoy, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GOOD OL' US of A
>
> http://www.njagyouth.org/liberty.htm
>
> Bob N.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> WAY COOL!
My whole family loves it.
Thanks Bob.
Denny Rowe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'd like to thank Richard Swiderski, his wife, daughter, son in law, sister and
brother in law and a boisterous tangle of kids for a tremendously enjoyable evening
last night, near Ocala, Florida. I don't often get to enjoy a close knit
family like theirs, and it was a real treat. (so was dinner - and a huge bowl
of ice cream for desert (-: ) Richard's engine project is coming right along,
looks very good, and almost ready to go - he does beautiful work. I also
fell in love with his SlingShot...............wish now that I'd a built one
of them. S'OK - gotta get the one I've got finished this fall. Tomorrow morning
to see ol' Beauford Tuton, then out onto south Tampa Bay in the boat. What
a trip this is turning into - thunderstorms and all. Lookin' Forward
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fathers day pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Olendorf" <solendor@nycap.rr.com>
> OK, you want pictures? I have pictures of my trip from Mechanicville, NY
to
> Homer's place and then on to Shrevesport Fly-in and then home.
>
> I hope the link will work for you. There is a 'download photos' link from
> the thumbnail view if you want the original resolution.
>
http://www.walmart.com/agt/bounce.gsp?ID=AD5380436121664DA06B180682D2C00723E2&sharee=solendor%40nycap%2Err%2Ecom
>
>
> Scott Olendorf
> Firestar, Rotax 447 and Powerfin prop.
> Schenectady, NY
> http://home.nycap.rr.com/firestar
>
>
> Scott,
Thanks for the great slide show and congratulations on your and Bobs
successful flight, I really enjoyed meeting you folks at Shreeveport and
hope to see you all again next year.
Denny Rowe
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