Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/13/04


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:14 AM - Kolb Amphib Floats (N27SB@aol.com)
     2. 06:51 AM - 503 idle problems (Steve Kroll)
     3. 08:29 AM - Re: Kolb Amphib Floats (Paul Petty)
     4. 08:46 AM - Re: 503 idle problems (snuffy@usol.com)
     5. 12:27 PM - Re: Tube caps and covering (WillUribe@aol.com)
     6. 12:29 PM - Oshkosh 2004 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
     7. 01:01 PM - Re: 503 idle problems (DAquaNut@aol.com)
     8. 02:04 PM - IVO with Power Tips (Jack & Louise Hart)
     9. 03:19 PM - Re: 503 idle problems (Johann)
    10. 04:18 PM - Re: Tube caps and covering (Ronnie Wehba)
    11. 04:37 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2004 (Paul Petty)
    12. 05:51 PM - Re: Hot Box (Bill Elder)
    13. 06:13 PM - Re: Oshkosh 2004 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
    14. 06:20 PM - Weight & Balance (Cat36Fly@aol.com)
    15. 06:42 PM - Re: Weight & Balance - Battery in the nose (Duncan McBride)
    16. 08:27 PM - Michigan Ultralight Association Fly-in at Purdy Field (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:14:05 AM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Kolb Amphib Floats
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com To all interested, Had a great day monday reassembling the floats and fabricating better mounting components. There has also been a change in the air powered system. We have changed to a manual hydraulic pump. We hope to have the floats mounted on the Kolb factory MKIIX today. Maybe fly on wed. If you have never been to the TNK home base,plan a trip, it is really a Class act. THats all for now steve boetto


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    Time: 06:51:57 AM PST US
    From: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
    Subject: 503 idle problems
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com> Tom et. al. Last night after running the engine for awhile, I noticed a smattering of grease/oil on the forward edge of the wing...inboard. That stuff has to be coming from somewhere so I suspect you are right Tom. I can't see evidence of a leak anywhere on the engine itself but I obviously got one. I guess the prudent thing to do is replace everything that is suspect of wear...points, condenser, crankshaft seals, intake gaskets. Odd though that the grease would be on the front of the wing. Another guy (not on the list) suggested vatting the carb (immersing the carb and all it's parts in a clensing solution) to thoroughly clense it of any gas/oil residue that might be fouling the jets and I might have missed on my initial inspection because it was coating the parts. Anybody got any thoughts on this? After cleaning my tanks, I did notice residue in the fuel tanks after filling them with new gas suggesting that the tank walls were coated with fuel residue. I've been down for two years. Looks like I will be down for a little longer getting everything up to snuff. Thanks much guys for all the help. I'm going to be a bona-fide 2-cycle mechanic before this is all over but I guess if I want to fly this thing safely, I'm going to need to be....either that or have a pocket full of money. Steve Kroll Mk-2 171 ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:29:12 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Amphib Floats
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net> Excellent work Steve! Keep it up and keep us posted please... pp do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <N27SB@aol.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Amphib Floats > --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com > > To all interested, > Had a great day monday reassembling the floats and fabricating better mounting components. There has also been a change in the air powered system. We have changed to a manual hydraulic pump. We hope to have the floats mounted on the Kolb factory MKIIX today. Maybe fly on wed. > If you have never been to the TNK home base,plan a trip, it is really a Class act. > THats all for now > > steve boetto > >


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    Time: 08:46:45 AM PST US
    From: snuffy@usol.com
    Subject: Re: 503 idle problems
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com > Another guy (not on the list) suggested vatting the carb (immersing the carb and all it's parts in a clensing solution) to thoroughly clense it of any gas/oil residue that might be fouling the jets and I might have missed on my initial inspection because it was coating the parts. Anybody got any thoughts on this? Good idea but get a bing carb overhaul manual first. You got to tear the carb down to do this. Buy a gallon can of carb cleaner at your local autoparts store. It's got a basket for parts inside it also. Nasty stuff but really cleans the carb. Kirk Do not archive


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    Time: 12:27:16 PM PST US
    From: WillUribe@aol.com
    Subject: Tube caps and covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com Greetings, I used aluminum tape to cover the ends of the tubes. Take a look; http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/tape01.jpg http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/tape02.jpg Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU C-172 N2506U http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ Do not archive and my apologies to anyone who is offended by this post. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Giovanni Day Subject: Kolb-List: Tube caps and covering --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net> Hello, I am finally about to start covering those MKIII wings. Can someone tell me if it is advisable to use those little metal caps in the ends of the tubes before covering? If so where did you find them? Thanks in advance. Giovanni Day MKIII 912 80566 Do Not Archive


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    Time: 12:29:42 PM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Oshkosh 2004
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> I think I have made the offer before but a few of us will be flying into Oshkosh again this year. So far we are a flight of four, two Kolb MKIIIcs and two Kolbras. We are meeting at Shawano, WI "3WO" for the flight in the evening of 7/26/04. If there is anyone out there that would like to join us you are more than welcome. You don't have to fly a Kolb to join us. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc


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    Time: 01:01:45 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 503 idle problems
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com In a message dated 7/13/04 7:52:43 AM Central Standard Time, muso2080@yahoo.com writes: << I did notice residue in the fuel tanks after filling them with new gas suggesting that the tank walls were coated with fuel residue. >> Steve, Even if you have a clean carb, which is a neccesity, it doesent take but one speck of that black goey stuff that accumulates within 2years in a 2-cycle fuel system, to cause a problem such as described in your post. Make sure the entire fuel tank and carb bowl is CLEAN. I have used BB,s in my tank along with a little fresh fuel and shook it real good. That helped break the gunk off of the walls of the tank. I am not suggesting you do that, but it worked for me. You need to be sure you get them all out if you were to use BB,s to clean it. Ed Do not archive


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    Time: 02:04:23 PM PST US
    From: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
    Subject: IVO with Power Tips
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Terry and Kolbers, Terry, you put us on to something very good. Today I cut power tips on the IVO propeller. Average propeller diameter went from 56 to 54.34 inches. To keep the Victor 1+ from exceeding 6,000 rpm, the 56 inch prop had to be pitched at 17.25 degrees. I pitched the power tip prop at 18.25, and the engine topped out at 6,050 rpm. The power tips are much quieter. Actual sound measurement on down wind cruise with the engine turning 5,200 rpm the meter read 106 db. This 5 db less than what was recorded for the 56 inch prop. Speed results are confused, because I flew several up and down winds and the gps ground speeds averaged out to 53 mph. Then I flew cross winds and the speeds averaged out 55 mph. I do not understand why there is a difference. But I was pleased there was an increase. I will have to take an out and back cross country that can compare to my EAA Chapter meeting flights to see if there is a real speed increase. I flew yesterday before removing the propeller to get base line data, and the best I could do at 5,200 rpm was 51 mph. Conditions were about the same, with air temp in the mid nineties and the EGT's were the same for both flights. I put the data from yesterday and today in the Aero Design Propeller Selector program. By adding the power tips, the FireFly drag/thrust went from 108.5 to 99.1 to 96.7 pounds and the cruise speed went from 51 to 53 to 55 mph. And propeller efficiency went from 66.9 to 68.0 to 69.8 %. And engine power absorbed by the propeller went from 22.1 to 20.6 to 20.3 hp. These last two numbers are indicating better performance with a slightly smaller propeller. Much of the drag reduction has to come from reducing propeller tip drag. The modelers were correct when they said to never run a squared off tip on a propeller. I will be gone for the rest of the week and the weekend (50th high school class reunion). When I get back I will protect the cut ends, and then take a cross country to verify prop performance and to see if I get increased fuel economy. I have taken some photos, so I will put them up so everyone can see how I did it. It is quite easy. This is exciting, and I could not wait until next week to tell someone. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net


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    Time: 03:19:17 PM PST US
    From: "Johann" <johann@gi.is>
    Subject: 503 idle problems
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Johann" <johann@gi.is> Hello Steve. I had a friend who was experiencing the same problem as you have had, and after a few adjustments to the carb, we asked him when he replaced or checked the spark plugs. He did not know??? So we replaced them with the correct gap, and his problem was solved. I know this is something that a normal ultralight pilot should know and keep a close look out for, but make sure that the plugs are ok. Then look for the air leak or grease in the carbs. The oil could have come from the air filter. Mine does that all the time. Check for a drip there. Hope you solve your problem. Regards, Johann G. Iceland. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Kroll Subject: Kolb-List: 503 idle problems --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com> Tom et. al. Last night after running the engine for awhile, I noticed a smattering of grease/oil on the forward edge of the wing...inboard. That stuff has to be coming from somewhere so I suspect you are right Tom. I can't see evidence of a leak anywhere on the engine itself but I obviously got one. I guess the prudent thing to do is replace everything that is suspect of wear...points, condenser, crankshaft seals, intake gaskets. Odd though that the grease would be on the front of the wing. Another guy (not on the list) suggested vatting the carb (immersing the carb and all it's parts in a clensing solution) to thoroughly clense it of any gas/oil residue that might be fouling the jets and I might have missed on my initial inspection because it was coating the parts. Anybody got any thoughts on this? After cleaning my tanks, I did notice residue in the fuel tanks after filling them with new gas suggesting that the tank walls were coated with fuel residue. I've been down for two years. Looks like I will be down for a little longer getting everything up to snuff. Thanks much guys for all the help. I'm going to be a bona-fide 2-cycle mechanic before this is all over but I guess if I want to fly this thing safely, I'm going to need to be....either that or have a pocket full of money. Steve Kroll Mk-2 171 --------------------------------- advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 04:18:01 PM PST US
    From: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Tube caps and covering
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net> Hi, will why should anyone be offended? ----- Original Message ----- From: <WillUribe@aol.com> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Tube caps and covering > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > Greetings, > I used aluminum tape to cover the ends of the tubes. > Take a look; > http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/tape01.jpg > http://members.aol.com/WillUribe/tape02.jpg > > Regards, > Will Uribe > El Paso, TX > FireStar II N4GU > C-172 N2506U > http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/ > Do not archive and my apologies to anyone who is offended by this post. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Giovanni Day > To: Kolb list > Subject: Kolb-List: Tube caps and covering > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net> > > Hello, > > I am finally about to start covering those MKIII wings. Can someone tell > me if it is advisable to use those little metal caps in the ends of the > tubes before covering? If so where did you find them? Thanks in advance. > > > Giovanni Day > MKIII 912 80566 > > Do Not Archive > >


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    Time: 04:37:34 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2004
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> Rick, Who are the Kolbra owners? pp do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Oshkosh 2004 > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > > I think I have made the offer before but a few of us will be flying into Oshkosh again this year. So far we are a flight of four, two Kolb MKIIIcs and two Kolbras. We are meeting at Shawano, WI "3WO" for the flight in the evening of 7/26/04. If there is anyone out there that would like to join us you are more than welcome. You don't have to fly a Kolb to join us. > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > >


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    Time: 05:51:48 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Elder" <billelder@denver.net>
    Subject: Re: Hot Box
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Elder" <billelder@denver.net> Robert - used one on my Mark III Classic with 912S and have not had any problems for the first 40 hours. Simplifies things as I'm no electrical genius. And tech support is very good!! Good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mason" <masonclan@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Hot Box > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Mason <masonclan@sbcglobal.net> > > > Getting ready to cover my MK3 Xtra, and I need to mount the electrical > stuff, is their any reason that I should not use a Hot Box? > > Robert Mason > N323RM MK3 Xtra 582 Blue Head > >


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    Time: 06:13:11 PM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh 2004
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> The flyers this year are: Scott Trask - MKIIIc Rick Neilsen - MKIIIc Mark German - Kolbra John Williamson - Kolbra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oshkosh 2004 > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> > > Rick, > Who are the Kolbra owners? > > pp > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kolb-List: Oshkosh 2004 > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > > > > I think I have made the offer before but a few of us will be flying into > Oshkosh again this year. So far we are a flight of four, two Kolb MKIIIcs > and two Kolbras. We are meeting at Shawano, WI "3WO" for the flight in the > evening of 7/26/04. If there is anyone out there that would like to join us > you are more than welcome. You don't have to fly a Kolb to join us. > > > > Rick Neilsen > > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:20:35 PM PST US
    From: Cat36Fly@aol.com
    Subject: Weight & Balance
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com Small pilot (160 lbs) building MKIII X is concerned about W & B. Has any one installed their battery way up front ahead of the rudder pedals? If so what kind of an arrangement was used? Larry


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    Time: 06:42:54 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Weight & Balance - Battery in the nose
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net> I did. I built up the floor of the nose cone with about 4 layers of fiberglass cloth and epoxy, then use 3/4" square wood epoxied in place to hold the battery in place. I left a slot in two of the wood pieces to accomodate a strap to hold the battery down. It's a Powersonic 18AH sealed battery, laying on its side with the terminals towards the rear. I can hook up the cables by reaching through the rudder pedals, but if I need to replace the battery, the nose cone has to come off. Or I'll cut a door in the nose cone. Great battery, by the way. Bought it way before the plane was done, in early 2001. I'd charge it up every once in a while. Been flying since November 2002, and it's still cranking. If I do take the nose cone off for any reason, I'll replace the battery just because it's time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cat36Fly@aol.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Weight & Balance > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com > > Small pilot (160 lbs) building MKIII X is concerned about W & B. Has any one > installed their battery way up front ahead of the rudder pedals? If so what > kind of an arrangement was used? > > Larry > >


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    Time: 08:27:50 PM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Michigan Ultralight Association Fly-in at Purdy Field
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> Is anyone going to make it to the fly-in this weekend? I'm going to try to fly over Sunday the 18th. Hope to see some of you there. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc




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