---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/20/04: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:04 AM - I like this picture (WillUribe@aol.com) 2. 03:22 AM - Re: I like this picture (rr@htg.net) 3. 04:01 AM - Re: catching up (Denny Rowe) 4. 04:05 AM - Re: I like this picture (Denny Rowe) 5. 04:08 AM - Re: catching up (Thom Riddle) 6. 06:19 AM - slipstream floats (Paul Petty) 7. 08:29 AM - SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 8. 08:36 AM - Helmet (Wayne F.Wilson) 9. 09:04 AM - SP (Bob Bean) 10. 09:55 AM - Re: SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB (KolbTwinstar@aol.com) 11. 12:44 PM - Rotax , not K&N (Mike Pierzina) 12. 01:22 PM - Re: Rotax , not K&N (Olenik Aviation) 13. 01:57 PM - Re: Rotax , not K&N (J.D. Stewart) 14. 03:13 PM - Tube caps (Neitzel) 15. 04:26 PM - Re: SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB (Dave & Eve Pelletier) 16. 04:31 PM - Re: Tube caps (Dave & Eve Pelletier) 17. 05:00 PM - Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. (herbgh@juno.com) 18. 05:00 PM - Re: SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB (John Williamson) 19. 05:11 PM - Re: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. (herbgh@juno.com) 20. 05:39 PM - Re: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. (Ronnie Wehba) 21. 06:27 PM - Re: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. (herbgh@juno.com) 22. 06:50 PM - Re: I like this picture (GeoR38@aol.com) 23. 06:55 PM - Makes me LAUGH !!! (Mike Pierzina) 24. 07:02 PM - FireFly Question (Mike Pierzina) 25. 07:26 PM - Re: FireFly Question (herbgh@juno.com) 26. 07:57 PM - Re: slipstream floats (GeoR38@aol.com) 27. 09:47 PM - rules & regs (Bob Bean) 28. 10:54 PM - Amphib Floats (N27SB@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:39 AM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: I like this picture --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/FireStar.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:39 AM PST US From: rr@htg.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: I like this picture --> Kolb-List message posted by: rr@htg.net Way Cool! Where was it taken? Did you get your medical back? Dave. Quoting WillUribe@aol.com: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/FireStar.jpg > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:01:51 AM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: catching up --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" Way to Go Bob! Congratulations on the inspection and finding a better test field! Denny Rowe Mk-3 PA do not archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean > > G'day all, mother nature did my modem in a few days back, so > had a bit 'o mail to catch up on. John H, I sure envy the ride to > Valdez area....but I'd pass on the forbidding northern swamps. > Last thurs the FAA man came and did my airworthiness inspection. > The good part is it passed ok, with the usual little stuff to clear up > for his return tomorrow. Just as the folks at DMV are much nicer > these days, he also was a very decent fellow. At his suggestion > I created a limit stop for the ailerons to prevent that extreme > point where the right side control hits the flap rod. > The only hitch was I had to come up with a test area other than > my own strip because of the proximity of ROC airport. > -Found a great grass strip with hangars, and runway lights for > $50/month , and it's a whole lot smoother than mine. > Now maybe if they publish that SP rule I can maintain my cheapskate > ways and skip the flight physical. -Wonder if the biennial thing > will still be in there? -BB , legal plane, illegal pilot. do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:44 AM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: I like this picture --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > > http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/FireStar.jpg > > Will, So do I. Denny Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:08:19 AM PST US From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: catching up --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" Bob, Congratulations on the prelim. inspection. You'll be flying that Geo soon and give us some numbers to think about, I'm sure. Unless the SP/LSA rule is changed from the proposal, the BFR is alive and well and will probably be with us forever; in my view not a bad thing. There are an awful lot of pilots who should be checked out regularly because they don't fly regularly enough to maintain their skills. Er...mine is due next month. Thom in Buffalo Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:06 AM PST US From: "Paul Petty" Subject: Kolb-List: slipstream floats --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" Hey guys, This is so cool. Steve sent me these to post to the list. Enjoy... http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P7160012.jpg http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/inflight.jpg Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:26 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Kolb-List: SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" I have my private license and plan to fly under the SP/LSA rule so that I can fly with one less requirement and expense. I also know that one day I will not pass the 3rd class medical. The concern is that as defined last year the BFR (biannual flight review) will be specific for a specific group of airplanes. This could be defined as a particular make and model? I know from personal experience that getting a BFR in a Kolb can be very difficult. Most local instructors don't like flying in experimental airplanes and finding one that is proficient in a Kolb is at best difficult. The SP/LSA rule stated that the CFI must me checked out in that group of airplane. What is the chance that there will be a instructor that is checked out and current in your make and model? I have twice gotten my BFR at Kolb but they didn't have a CFI when I called ahead to schedule one for last years Kolb home coming. I have since gotten my BFR in a 172 but I don't think that check ride will cover me flying a Kolb under the SP/LSA rules? I may be able to grand father in till my next check ride but then? I kind of see the wisdom being checked out and current in a Kolb as most GA pilots even very good GA pilots will not be able to land a Kolb without bending it. The GA pilot just isn't ready or trained to handle these low energy high drag airplanes. What do you guys think? I'm putting together some questions to ask at Oshkosh next week. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:02 AM PST US From: "Wayne F.Wilson" Subject: Kolb-List: Helmet --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Wayne F.Wilson" Wanted a Helmet with Build in Headset and Mic for use with handheld Icom A4 in Kolb. Contact Wayne 519-736-0577 evenings or wfwilson1@yahoo.ca thanks Wayne F Wilson Slingshot 009 Amherstburg ON ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:45 AM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Kolb-List: SP --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean Hoo Boy! two long-awaited events in one day! Pedro, my FAA inspector came up my driveway and handed me the little pink certificate and then I check the FAA website to see SP is a reality. Hot doggies. A little sleeper in the rules....the 1320lb limit increases the number of old taildraggers eligible. Some airplanes just got a big boost in market value. Re: the BFR, I'll get one in a two seater Cessna and that'll have to do. -After all, if you got one in a Cessna before, it was good for a whole lot of two-seaters. I don't see quibbling over details whether that's good for something with a different name on it. There's gonna be a plethora of different planes in the air now. -BB, do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:56 AM PST US From: KolbTwinstar@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB --> Kolb-List message posted by: KolbTwinstar@aol.com Rick, If you need a biannual in the Kolb let me know. I have a Kolb aircraft and I also have my Instructor ratings in airplanes and helicopters. I agree if you haven't had experience in a Kolb it can be challenging. Tracv Briggs P.S. Do not archive. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:44:38 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax , not K&N --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Hey Guys, Oops, I thought my dual filter was K&N ,...I glanced at it today and saw it's a Rotax filter..... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My (double) K&N filter was bought 1 1/2 yrs ago , and they had stopped putting that chrome piece on it....I thought they were just getting cheaper/cutting costs , but maybe their were more problems with them than we've heard... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. -- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:22:23 PM PST US From: "Olenik Aviation" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax , not K&N --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation" It's a K&N Filter made for Rotax. Actually that filter costs more because of the lawsuits and the fact that they have to make it special for aircraft use with provision for safety wire and no metal on it. Tom OLenik Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation. Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell...... (DO NOT USE THIS E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR DIRECT E-MAIL. WE WILL NEVER SEE IT. USE THE ABOVE CONTACT INFORMATION TO CONTACT US DIRECTLY) -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Pierzina Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax , not K&N --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Hey Guys, Oops, I thought my dual filter was K&N ,...I glanced at it today and saw it's a Rotax filter..... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My (double) K&N filter was bought 1 1/2 yrs ago , and they had stopped putting that chrome piece on it....I thought they were just getting cheaper/cutting costs , but maybe their were more problems with them than we've heard... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. -- ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:57:51 PM PST US From: "J.D. Stewart" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax , not K&N --> Kolb-List message posted by: "J.D. Stewart" My K&N double air filter that I just got last Saturday from Aircraft Spruce has the chrome on it. J.D. Stewart UltraFun AirSports http://www.ultrafunairsports.com FlyChallenger E-mail list and Website Administrator http://challenger.inebraska.com TitanAircraft e-mail list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Titanaircraft/ > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > Hey Guys, > Oops, I thought my dual filter was K&N ,...I glanced > at it today and saw it's a Rotax filter..... > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > > > SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > My (double) K&N filter was bought 1 1/2 yrs > ago , and they had > stopped putting that chrome piece on it....I thought they were > just getting > cheaper/cutting costs , but maybe their were more problems with > them than we've > heard... > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:16 PM PST US From: "Neitzel" Subject: Kolb-List: Tube caps --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Neitzel" When I covered my wings I was not aware that there were caps available so I cut some circles out of a stick backed aluminum tape and then pinked the edges. I folded the small ears over the tube and they worked out great. Once the fabric was in place I was able to shrink it enough over the open tubes so that it was very flat. Good luck with the covering. My Mark III was my first covering job and I think I spent almost as much time covering and painting as I did constructing! Dick Neitzel N961WB ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:26:40 PM PST US From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Mr. T What is the location at which you are located at, location wise? Others may avail themselves of your services. AzDave Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB > --> Kolb-List message posted by: KolbTwinstar@aol.com > > Rick, > > If you need a biannual in the Kolb let me know. I have a Kolb aircraft and > I also have my Instructor ratings in airplanes and helicopters. I agree if > you haven't had experience in a Kolb it can be challenging. > > > Tracv Briggs > > P.S. Do not archive. > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:45 PM PST US From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tube caps --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Amen to that, Dick. I've been recovering mine since March and been working on it fairly steady - with a week off here and there for other work. Just now finished the covering phase of the wings, flaps, ailerons and tail feathers. Now on to painting. Amazing - when I started I was sure it would be done in time for Monument Valley in May. HA!!! Now I hope it'll be done in time for our Prescott Air Fair in Oct. Seriously, I'm hoping to have it done around the first week of Aug. (HA?) AzDave Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neitzel" Subject: Kolb-List: Tube caps > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Neitzel" > > When I covered my wings I was not aware that there were caps available so I cut some circles out of a stick backed aluminum tape and then pinked the edges. I folded the small ears over the tube and they worked out great. Once the fabric was in place I was able to shrink it enough over the open tubes so that it was very flat. > > Good luck with the covering. My Mark III was my first covering job and I think I spent almost as much time covering and painting as I did constructing! > > Dick Neitzel > N961WB > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:32 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. From: herbgh@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Kolbers/Firefliers Have a look and tell me if these front guides are welded correctly. I have no reference to them in the plans or manual. The cables ride on them at an angle. Looks as if the brackets should have been welded straight ? Herb --making progress in Ky. do not archive Do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:32 PM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: SP/LSA Rule is Approved by OMB --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Rick, Dave and all licensed Kolb pilots, I have been waiting for this rule to come out to make myself available as a CFI. If you need or want a Flight Review, I will do one in your 2 place Kolb whenever we are at the same place. I will be at 3WO on July 24 and at the Kolb Homecoming 24-25 September. My other locations can be found on my website on my various trips. You will have to have your pilot logbook with you and let me know in advance that you want a flight review. John Williamson Arlington, TX CFI, CFII, ASEL, AMEL Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 606 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot Zenith CH701 Project http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. From: herbgh@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Kolbers What I meant to show was the right and left Cable guides for the Rudder and elevator. The brackets are welded at angles to 90 degrees . 10 degrees or so toe out. This causes the cables to try to ride on the rim of the pulley instead of in the grove. What gives? Herb On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:58:02 -0500 herbgh@juno.com writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com > > > Kolbers/Firefliers > > Have a look and tell me if these front guides are welded > correctly. I > have no reference to them in the plans or manual. The cables ride on > them > at an angle. Looks as if the brackets should have been welded > straight ? > Herb --making progress in Ky. > > do not archive > > > Do not archive > > > = > = > = > = > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:05 PM PST US From: "Ronnie Wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ronnie Wehba" you gotta put a pic up on the site,,scroll down and do as it says! ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. > --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com > > Kolbers > > What I meant to show was the right and left Cable guides for the Rudder > and elevator. The brackets are welded at angles to 90 degrees . 10 > degrees or so toe out. This causes the cables to try to ride on the rim > of the pulley instead of in the grove. What gives? Herb > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:58:02 -0500 herbgh@juno.com writes: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com > > > > > > Kolbers/Firefliers > > > > Have a look and tell me if these front guides are welded > > correctly. I > > have no reference to them in the plans or manual. The cables ride on > > them > > at an angle. Looks as if the brackets should have been welded > > straight ? > > Herb --making progress in Ky. > > > > do not archive > > > > > > Do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn 032. From: herbgh@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Ronnie I tried to send one in the body of the text. Guess that is a no no!! I will do a photo share. Herb do not archive On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:26:38 -0500 "Ronnie Wehba" writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ronnie Wehba" > > you gotta put a pic up on the site,,scroll down and do as it says! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides > sn 032. > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com > > > > Kolbers > > > > What I meant to show was the right and left Cable guides for the > Rudder > > and elevator. The brackets are welded at angles to 90 degrees . > 10 > > degrees or so toe out. This causes the cables to try to ride on > the rim > > of the pulley instead of in the grove. What gives? Herb > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:58:02 -0500 herbgh@juno.com writes: > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com > > > > > > > > > Kolbers/Firefliers > > > > > > Have a look and tell me if these front guides are welded > > > correctly. I > > > have no reference to them in the plans or manual. The cables > ride on > > > them > > > at an angle. Looks as if the brackets should have been welded > > > straight ? > > > Herb --making progress in Ky. > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > Do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > = > = > = > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:33 PM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: I like this picture --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 7/20/04 3:05:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, WillUribe@aol.com writes: -List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/FireStar.jpg The name of that picture Will is "flying into the unknown" and the reason you like it is because you come from a region of our country where the dominant view is called "vista". You always have a vista in the land of sun and I from Ohio am always flying into the unknown. It has a mysterious attribute, and is quite interesting....and a little ....scarey. Good picture!! yer bud george Randolph ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:02 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: Makes me LAUGH !!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Yeah, Right, And buy the time the picture is processed... You'll have already figured it out for yourself.... They have the option of instant pictures on the Kolb list...but their SCARED, because they think it'll take all day to down load.... Yes ! the world IS flat ...and the Sun revolves around the earth, and I believe that because somebody told me so ! DO NOT ARCHIVE SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ronnie Wehba" you gotta put a pic up on the site,,scroll down and do as it says! ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... -- ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:04 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: FireFly Question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Hey Herb, If you send your picture directly to one of the FireFly guys , they'll be able to see it and help you...Try Jack Hart ,or FlagFly Just a thought... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN Do Not Archive SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kolbers/Firefliers Have a look and tell me if these front guides are welded correctly. I have no reference to them in the plans or manual. The cables ride on them at an angle. Looks as if the brackets should have been welded straight ? Herb --making progress in Ky. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... -- ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Question From: herbgh@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Good idea Don,Jack or Mike---email me . Herb do not archive On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:01:56 -0500 "Mike Pierzina" writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > > Hey Herb, > If you send your picture directly to one of the FireFly > guys , they'll be able to see it and help you...Try Jack Hart ,or > FlagFly > Just a thought... > Gotta Fly... ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:12 PM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: slipstream floats --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com In a message dated 7/20/04 9:19:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Lynnp@c-gate.net writes: Hey guys, This is so cool. Steve sent me these to post to the list. Enjoy... http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P7160012.jpg http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/inflight.jpg Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp Ohhhh dear, dear.....Ohhhhh my, my......what can be said ...... George Randoph firestar driver do not archive ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:47:31 PM PST US From: Bob Bean Subject: Kolb-List: rules & regs --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Bean This SP/LSA deal was a lot of stuff for the feds to hash out. I think they made the best they could out of a situation that couldn't possibly have made everyone happy. I found satisfying the point where the snubbed ME's said that the exam only cost an average of $85 and was not a burden. Yeah, right.and try to find one if you live in east podunk. Also in there: Therefore, the FAA is revising the final rule under 61.303 to establish that the holder of a recreational pilot certificate or higher is NOT required to obtain a make and model logbook endorsement from an authorized instructor to operate a LSA while exercising the privileges of a sport pilot certificate. (sure would have been tough to do if you owned the only one of it's kind) -g'nite all, BB do not archive ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:54:33 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Amphib Floats --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com Hello to all Just got back to Orlando, It is 1:30am This is the first chance I have had to get a real connection in days. Thank you Paul for posting the pictures. Norm Labhardt is the pilot in the firstshot and Bryan Melborne is in the second, can you imagine two better test pilots.I only have 3 days to clear my desk here and then I head for Osh. The plan is to ship the new MKIIx with the floats attached to the show. It should be flying there. Its hard to believe but the picture posted in flight is really the wheels retracted. The test flying is not done yet because of time to show constraints but we are seeing speeds in excess of 90 mph at 5500 rpm. all for now Steve Boetto