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1. 06:20 AM - Re: Prop Bolts (David Paule)
2. 06:29 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 23 Msgs - 07/21/04 (Chuck Davis - Comcast)
3. 07:48 AM - Oshkosh!! (info)
4. 08:53 AM - Re: Oshkosh!! (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
5. 09:55 AM - John Hauck (Jim Hauck)
6. 12:46 PM - LSA rules (Charles & Meredith Blackwell)
7. 03:43 PM - Re: John Hauck (bryan green)
8. 03:55 PM - Re: John Hauck (wiserguy)
9. 04:46 PM - John Hauck (Jim Hauck)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
I forgot to mention that there's a generous radius under the head of the
bolt. You MUST use countersunk washers to accomodate this.
Otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts waiting and listening for that "Bling!"
sound that the bolt head makes when it comes off.
Dave Paule
Boulder CO
FS II that I haven't flown yet.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chuck Davis - Comcast" <davis207@comcast.net>
Toni - Good luck in school!
Glad to hear from you.
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> 1. 04:37 AM - Re: spl (Ted Cowan)
> 2. 04:50 AM - Re: Re: spl (Kirk Smith)
> 3. 05:17 AM - SP/LSA (Paul Petty)
> 4. 06:28 AM - sport pilot (Charles & Meredith Blackwell)
> 5. 06:29 AM - floats (Charles & Meredith Blackwell)
> 6. 06:45 AM - Re: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn
(Jack & Louise Hart)
> 7. 06:51 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 07/20/04 (boyd young)
> 8. 06:52 AM - Re: catching up (Steve Kroll)
> 9. 07:14 AM - Re: IVO with Power Tips (Jack & Louise Hart)
> 10. 07:59 AM - Re: SP/LSA (John Williamson)
> 11. 08:07 AM - Re: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn
032. (herbgh@juno.com)
> 12. 08:11 AM - Re: sport pilot (Don Gherardini)
> 13. 08:47 AM - Re: Rotax , not K&N (WillUribe@aol.com)
> 14. 08:51 AM - Re: I like this picture (WillUribe@aol.com)
> 15. 09:16 AM - Re: sport pilot (Olenik Aviation)
> 16. 10:15 AM - Re: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn
(Jack & Louise Hart)
> 17. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: You missed info from Chestnut Knolls
(N27SB@aol.com)
> 18. 01:57 PM - Prop bolts (H MITCHELL)
> 19. 03:04 PM - Fw: [carolinasportflyers] Summary of the Sport Pilot
Rule (bryan green)
> 20. 04:01 PM - Rotax 912 UL Engine Temps / Flight testing. (H
MITCHELL)
> 21. 05:18 PM - slip/Compass Indicator (jerb)
> 22. 05:41 PM - Oil Pump Wanted (al bumhoffer)
> 23. 05:57 PM - Re: Rotax 912 UL Engine Temps / Flight testing. (Mark
German)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
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>
>
> Time: 04:37:07 AM PST US
> From: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: spl
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <tcowan1917@direcway.com>
>
> Okay. We have a whole bunch of very intellegent people on this list and
> others and I would like to challenge someone to print out something on
this
> list and would pretty much explain to the rest of us dummies who do not
> fully understand FAA lingo, exactly what is required of us to do to
qualify,
> test and receive our SPLs. I know it has been hashed and hashed but I
have
> never ever been able to really understand what they are talking about in
> some areas. I do not have an extensive aviation background as many of you
> do. I would like to know pretty much how you start and finish this thing.
> There has been much talk about grandfathering in and such but how does it
> work and who do we see and how do we get the actual flying tests if
> necessary for endorsements on tail wheel, etc. How do we go about getting
> our old fat ultralights registered and such. anyone up to the challenge?
> Call it Aviation for Dummies!! Ted
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
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>
>
> Time: 04:50:13 AM PST US
> From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: spl
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
>
> > Call it Aviation for Dummies!! Ted
>
> Good questions Ted. Same ones I got. Hopefully the EAA or some
organization
> will come with something that will address these things. Kirk
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
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>
>
> Time: 05:17:17 AM PST US
> From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: SP/LSA
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
>
> Ted,all
> Try this link http://www.sportpilot.org/index2.html
> Hope it is helpful
>
> Paul Petty
> Building Ms. Dixie
> Kolbra/912UL/Warp
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
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>
>
> Time: 06:28:30 AM PST US
> From: Charles & Meredith Blackwell <wozani@optonline.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: sport pilot
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles & Meredith Blackwell
<wozani@optonline.net>
>
> The rules for sport pilot and light sport aircraft are available
(http://www.usua.org) for us to read. There are many pages and quite a few
explanations covering most of the comments mailed to them. I'v gotta say
that it is a bit tough to make sense of when I am trying to see how my plane
will be covered in the new rules. The grandfathering is obvious, but runs
out in about 4 years if I read it correctly. Getting my plane covered as
experimental in one of the categories when time runs out is where my
questioning begins.
> Because it is a MKII from the now defunct Kolb and not manufactured by
TNK
> does it fit into the rules somehow without any manufacturer submitting the
design?
> I did not build it, and am third owner, how do I prove it is built to some
> standard? Will I have to remove the fabric and have the inspector go over
> it again? Without my having built it, can I repair it in the future? It
looks
> like the part 103 is being kept for ultralights, but the two seat
exemption
> is being removed and replaced by the LSA rules with a grace period. Am I
reading
> that correctly? How do I keep flying my plane after the grace period?
> Just wanted to start a thread and get some input from other owners on
how they
> read the new rules. I will go over them again a few times and try to get
> past what I saw as contradictions in the rule and omissions. It is quite
long
> and probably complete enough that I can find answers. But I would
appreciate
> anyone else's ability to find the part of the rule answering my questions
if
> they can find it.
>
> Charlie in NJ, MKII 503
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
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>
>
> Time: 06:29:11 AM PST US
> From: Charles & Meredith Blackwell <wozani@optonline.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: floats
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles & Meredith Blackwell
<wozani@optonline.net>
>
> Should have mentioned that I think I now want a MKIII on floats, those
pics
> are exciting. Maybe my trouble can be solved by throwing money and build
time
> at it.
>
> Charlie, MKII
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
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>
>
> Time: 06:45:51 AM PST US
> From: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> 032.
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn
> 032.
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> 032.
>
> At 07:09 PM 7/20/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
> >
> >Kolbers
> >
> > What I meant to show was the right and left Cable guides for the Rudder
> >and elevator. The brackets are welded at angles to 90 degrees . 10
> >degrees or so toe out. This causes the cables to try to ride on the rim
> >of the pulley instead of in the grove. What gives? Herb
> >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:58:02 -0500 herbgh@juno.com writes:
>
>
> Herb,
>
> I have an older FireFly (004) and so I do not have the same control
system.
>
> If you do not like the way it is set up, now is the time to change it.
From
> looking at the drawings of the new system, it seems that one could slip a
hack
>
> saw blade in and cut the welds part way through, and then apply a little
> twisting moment to the brackets to line the pulleys up in the direction
you
> would like. Then re weld the bracket.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Jackson, MO
>
>
> Jack & Louise Hart
> jbhart@ldd.net
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
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>
>
> Time: 06:51:37 AM PST US
> From: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 07/20/04
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
> a friend sent me this.... not necessarly kolb related but funny in its
own
> kind of way.... do not archive
>
> boyd
>
>
> Passengers on a small commuter plane are waiting for the flight
>
> to leave. They're getting a little impatient, but the airport staff
>
> assures them that the pilots will be there soon, and the flight
>
> can take off. The entrance opens, and two men dressed in
>
> Pilots' uniforms walk up the aisle. Both are wearing dark
>
> glasses, one is using a guide dog, and the other is tapping his
>
> way along the aisle with a cane. Nervous laughter spreads
>
> through the cabin, but the men enter the cockpit, the door
> closes, and the engines start up. The passengers begin
>
> glancing nervously around; searching for
> some sign that this is just a little practical joke. None is
>
> forthcoming. The plane moves faster and faster down the
>
> runway, and the people sitting in the window seats realize that
>
> they're headed straight for the water at the edge of the airport
>
> territory. As it begins to look as though the plane will plow
>
> into the water, panicked screams fill the cabin. At that
>
> moment, the plane lifts smoothly into the air. The passengers
>
> relax and laugh a little sheepishly and soon all retreat into their
>
> magazines, secure in the knowledge that the plane is in good
>
> hands. In the cockpit, the co-pilot turns to the pilot and says,
>
> "You know, Don, one of these days, they're gonna scream too
>
> late, and we're all gonna die."
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
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>
>
> Time: 06:52:17 AM PST US
> From: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: catching up
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
>
> I agree with the BFR Idea Thom. I don't like Gov. interference any more
than anybody
> else but I do notice that as I get older, I tend to forget some real
important
> preflight checks If I'm not following my checklist closely. Of course
> a BFR is not necessarily going to make a pilot more prudent in this area
but
> the idea that SOMEBODY is going to check out your flying routien once in
awhile
> will help keep the process centered in your mind.
> The ultimate decision of whether or not a pilot is physically and mentally
qualified
> to fly is still going to be the pilot's responsibility and that will
always
> be a tough, heart-rending, important decision when it comes. Our machines
> are, for the most part, simple mechanical devices but there are many
things to
> remember and keep track of if we are going to be safe.
>
> Steve Kroll
> Mk-2 #171
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
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>
>
> Time: 07:14:10 AM PST US
> From: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: IVO with Power Tips
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
> At 03:24 PM 7/13/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
> >
> >Terry and Kolbers,
> >
>
> To see how it can and was done can be found on the bottom of:
>
> http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly100.html
>
> The bad/good news is that I cannot verify Terry's increase in speed, but
the
> tip has improved performance in a positive way. I took an out and back
trip
> from K02. I flew upwind for a gps distance of 27 miles and then reversed
> course and flew back to the airport. A cold front had come through and so
> the EGT was running 50 degrees higher, and so one would expect better
engine
> performance but also a higher air density should increase drag too.
>
> Comparing this data to the previous 94 mile 90+ degree round trip data, I
> gained l.2 mph with the addition of the power tips. Fuel flows were the
> same at 2.20 gph, but the power tips added a little range going from 22.1
to
> 22.7 mpg.
>
> Currently, I have not protected the tips, but I am working on it. The
> FireFly is quieter, so much so, that I can hear the wing swivel hinges
> rattling. So next, I have to tighten and shim them.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Jackson, MO
>
>
> Jack & Louise Hart
> jbhart@ldd.net
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
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>
>
> Time: 07:59:21 AM PST US
> From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: SP/LSA
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
<kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> Morning Ted, Kirk, Paul, Charles and all,
>
> Instead of looking for Sport Pilot and Light Sport Aircraft information at
> the alphabet groups, please go the source and read the Rule. Then go the
> other groups and read what they think it says.
>
> All the info can be found on this website:
> http://www.faa.gov/newsroom/index.cfm
>
> The important link on that page is: Sport Pilot Final Rule:
> http://www.faa.gov/avr/arm/rulemaking/SportPilotRule7_19.doc
>
> Remember that the rule covers several specific new and separate areas.
>
> If you want to know what it takes to fly under the Sport Pilot privileges,
> you have to determine what your starting point is, i.e.. ATP, Commercial,
> Private, Recreational, Student licensed or Ultralight pilot registered
with
> and alphabet group or new or never registered with a group. The answers
are
> quite different depending on where you start.
>
> If you want to operate and aircraft under the Light Sport Aircraft
category,
> it all depends on what you have, whether it is "N" numbered or registered
> with an alphabet group or not. This is an over simplification but you
should
> see that the answers will be specific to a particular situation.
>
> If you send me your specific situation, pilot or airplane, and give me
some
> time I will start a Q&A section that will help us Kolb pilots out.
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> CFI, CFII, ASEL, AMEL
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 608 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
> Zenith CH701 Project
> http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
> http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
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>
>
> Time: 08:07:05 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn
032.
> From: herbgh@juno.com
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
>
> Jack
> Sent you a pic. What is the difference between yours and mine? I
> have 4 pulleys at the front end of the boom tube. Two sets of two pulleys
> just behing the joy stick and a set of fairleads for the rudder cables
> beyond that. Herb
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:29:31 -0500 Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
> 032. writes:
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
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>
>
> Time: 08:11:59 AM PST US
> From: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: sport pilot
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Charlie,
>
> I too have been reading this newly released rule...spent most of last
> evening...until my eyes went crossed study'ing it.
> ANyway....the general drift I get is.....an homebuilt LSA bird will be
> generally be subjected to the sme rules as an Certificated Experimental in
> this regard of maintanance , (builder only) until the owner has completed
a
> "manufacturer approved" training course . Engine maintanence seems to be
> also covered in this same way.
> Now the subject of engine maintanance might be described as in fact a
> little more stringent thru the LSA rule..than previously an Exp
> registration...as owners can do the engine work....IT is hard to tell
> here.there are alot of referrals to previously written FAR's...and these
> will undoubtdly influence the interpretation of the new rule so as to
> comply...and there is no doubt that a whole mirad of AC's (advisory
> circulars) will be printed to clear this up. Keep in mind..this is the
> normal FAA method....they write a rule in "FAA legal language" and then
> write AC's to explain what they intended for it to mean. Nuttin new
there.!
> Overall....bringing your bird..and any other into a "regulated status"
will
> not be easy, if previously operated as an "outlaw" so to speak.
> About the only conclusion I have come to so far is....many fellas I know
> whom have been awaiting in hopes to slip an "outlaw bird" into the realm
of
> regulated......wont!
>
> Don Gherardini
> OEM.Sales / Engineering dept.
> American Honda Engines
> Power Equipment Company
> CortLand, Illinois
> 800-626-7326
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
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>
>
> Time: 08:47:56 AM PST US
> From: WillUribe@aol.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax , not K&N
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> Here are some pictures of Don's FireFly before he sold it. The Rotax
filter
> came with a stamped out metel ring that caps on the end of the filter it
is
> used to safety wire the filter in place.
> Take a look
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/Filter1.jpg
>
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/Filter2.jpg
>
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
> El Paso, TX
> FireStar II N4GU
> C-172 N2506U
> http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Olenik Aviation
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Rotax , not K&N
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation"
> <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
>
> It's a K&N Filter made for Rotax. Actually that filter costs more because
> of the lawsuits and the fact that they have to make it special for
aircraft
> use with provision for safety wire and no metal on it.
>
> Tom OLenik
> Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
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>
>
> Time: 08:51:59 AM PST US
> From: WillUribe@aol.com
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: I like this picture
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> No, still grounded :-(...
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
> El Paso, TX
> FireStar II N4GU
> C-172 N2506U
> http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rr@htg.net
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: I like this picture
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: rr@htg.net
>
> Way Cool! Where was it taken? Did you get your medical back?
> Dave.
>
> Quoting WillUribe@aol.com:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
> >
> > http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/FireStar.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
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>
>
> Time: 09:16:15 AM PST US
> From: "Olenik Aviation" <olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: sport pilot
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Olenik Aviation"
<olenik-aviation@buyitsellitfixit.com>
>
> Don,
>
> I think you are right about the maintenance issues. In experimental
amatuer
> built someone can even have thier engine overhauled by someone other than
an
> A&P and sign off on that work as long as they hold the repairman
certificate
> for that aircraft. In Light Sport it specifically prohibits a light sport
> repairman from signing off on someone else's work, and they are not
allowed
> to perform major alterations or repairs. Therefore, if you need to help
> with any kind of maintenance or need a major repair, the helper is going
to
> have to at least be a light sport repairman with maintenance rating which
> requires a 120 hour course or about 3 weeks or you will need to send it to
> the manufacturer or thier designated representative. That's the way I'm
> reading it.
>
> Guys like me, who have been doing this for 15 years but do not have an A&P
> license are going to have to spend 8 weeks in training away from home to
be
> able to keep doing what we are doing because I work on fixed wing, ppc and
> trikes. 120 hours + 104 hours + 104 hours. Based on 40 hours per week,
> that is 8 weeks. I figure it will cost $10,000 plus tuition, plus the
> disruption in business from being away that long.
>
> The other group of people who sort of got bad news was those who turned to
> the UL trainers because they lost thier medical. Those guys are going to
be
> left out completely.
>
> Other than those two items, it seems like a good rule.
>
> Tom Olenik
> Olenik Aviation - Supplying the lighter side of sport aviation.
> Level III Repair Station for Rotax Aircraft Engines
> Dealer for Summit Powered Parachutes
> http://www.buyitsellitfixit.com
> Toll Free: 877-AIR-MOTORS
> Buy from a dealer who can support what they sell......
> (DO NOT USE THIS E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR DIRECT E-MAIL. WE WILL NEVER SEE IT.
> USE THE ABOVE CONTACT INFORMATION TO CONTACT US DIRECTLY)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Gherardini
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: sport pilot
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
>
> Charlie,
>
> I too have been reading this newly released rule...spent most of last
> evening...until my eyes went crossed study'ing it.
> ANyway....the general drift I get is.....an homebuilt LSA bird will be
> generally be subjected to the sme rules as an Certificated Experimental in
> this regard of maintanance , (builder only) until the owner has completed
a
> "manufacturer approved" training course . Engine maintanence seems to be
> also covered in this same way.
> Now the subject of engine maintanance might be described as in fact a
> little more stringent thru the LSA rule..than previously an Exp
> registration...as owners can do the engine work....IT is hard to tell
> here.there are alot of referrals to previously written FAR's...and these
> will undoubtdly influence the interpretation of the new rule so as to
> comply...and there is no doubt that a whole mirad of AC's (advisory
> circulars) will be printed to clear this up. Keep in mind..this is the
> normal FAA method....they write a rule in "FAA legal language" and then
> write AC's to explain what they intended for it to mean. Nuttin new
there.!
> Overall....bringing your bird..and any other into a "regulated status"
will
> not be easy, if previously operated as an "outlaw" so to speak.
> About the only conclusion I have come to so far is....many fellas I know
> whom have been awaiting in hopes to slip an "outlaw bird" into the realm
of
> regulated......wont!
>
> Don Gherardini
> OEM.Sales / Engineering dept.
> American Honda Engines
> Power Equipment Company
> CortLand, Illinois
> 800-626-7326
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 16
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>
>
> Time: 10:15:56 AM PST US
> From: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> 032.
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Huh?? Rudder and Elevator front cable guides sn
> 032.
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> 032.
>
> At 10:04 AM 7/21/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
> >
> >Jack
> > Sent you a pic. What is the difference between yours and mine? I
> >have 4 pulleys at the front end of the boom tube. Two sets of two pulleys
> >just behing the joy stick and a set of fairleads for the rudder cables
> >beyond that. Herb
> >On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:29:31 -0500 Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
> >032. writes:
> >
>
> Herb,
>
> I will be going to the airport this afternoon. I will take the camera
along
> and take some photos so you can see the difference. The old system had
many
> more parts and many more places for play and slop to creep in. In some
ways
> the old system is better in that the elevator cables are not affected by
> moving the stick sideways. This should not be a problem since the
elevator
> cables are quite long and if they are not set bow string tight. Also, in
> the new system the pivot point for aileron movement is much lower which
> gives you a better mechanical advantage in roll.
>
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Jackson, MO
>
>
> Jack & Louise Hart
> jbhart@ldd.net
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 17
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>
>
> Time: 10:51:47 AM PST US
> From: N27SB@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: You missed info from Chestnut Knolls
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jbowaaf@wmconnect.com
>
> steve boetoo at chestnut knolls -- amphib floats.=A0 i m sure i missed
some
> posts with this info, but could u say again the manufacturer/ etc, costs
or
> web
> site of these floats.=A0 tnx john b in baton rouge.
>
> This will be a Kolb marketed product, pricing is in the works as we speak.
> Thanks for your support
>
> Steve Boetto
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 18
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>
>
> Time: 01:57:44 PM PST US
> From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Prop bolts
> Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:57:16 -0400
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> Question for members that may have experience in high class hardware:
>
> I have a dozen or so "NAS 6605-38 ma" bolts. These appear to be the
correct length
> for mounting my 3-blade IVO prop to the 4" extension on my 912-UL engine.
> These bolts have a dished-out center in the head and I suspect that they
are high
> strength (~160K psi), close-tolerance bolts. They may be terrific for
shear
> applications but not recommended for tension applications like squeezing
the
> prop hub tightly in place but I may be wrong. I have tried to find them in
all
> the standard handbooks with no luck. 'Hate to waste them.
>
> Duane the Plane, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3 Classic / 912
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19
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>
>
> Time: 03:04:12 PM PST US
> From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: [carolinasportflyers] Summary of the Sport Pilot
Rule
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
>
> Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W.Davis" <patches11us@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [carolinasportflyers] Summary of the Sport Pilot Rule
>
>
> "Jon Thornburgh" <JonThornburgh@p...> wrote:
> The FAA finally promulgated the Sport Pilot initiative on July 20,
> 2004. The
> rule becomes effective on September 1, 2004.
>
>
> Here's a quick summary of the salient features regarding the Sport
> Pilot
> certificate and Light Sport Aircraft (LSA):
>
>
> LIGHT SPORT AIRCRAFT
>
>
> * The allowable gross weight is 1,320 pounds. Aircraft operated on
> water
> can weigh 1,430 pounds.
>
>
> * The stall speed must be not greater than 45 knots, max speed: 120
> knots.
>
>
> * LSA cannot have an in-flight propeller or retractable gear.
>
>
> * Seaplanes can have "repositionable gear." The rule specifically
> says that
> the gear must be operated in either the down position throughout the
> entire
> flight, or in the up position throughout the entire flight. In other
> words,
> it appears that an amphibious seaplane may not take off from land
> with the
> gear down, raise the gear, and then land on water. This seems to
> preclude
> the Aventura from qualifying as an LSA.
>
>
> * An LSA can have only one engine
>
>
> * Hang gliders and foot-launched powered and unpowered paragliders
> are
> specifically excluded from being LSA, and a Sport Pilot certificate
> does not
> allow a sport pilot to fly a tandem hang glider or tandem paraglider.
>
>
> * Weight-shift trikes are limited to two-axis control only. No
> rudder is
> allowed for yaw control.
>
>
> SPORT PILOTS
>
>
> * Contrary to the Sport Pilot NPRM, a sport pilot need not obtain a
> logbook endorsement for each make and model that he wants to fly. The
> FAA
> will create a "set" of similar LSA make and models. You'll need
> additional
> instruction and an instructor's logbook endorsement for each new make
> and
> model "set" that you want to check out in.
>
>
> * Sport Pilot Instructors must have 5 hours of PIC in each make and
> model
> set before they can teach in that aircraft.
>
>
> * Powered parachutes are divided into "land" and "sea" classes.
>
>
> * Pilots will be allowed to take a practical test (flight test) in a
> single
> seat LSA. The examiner will observe him from the ground. The pilot
> will have
> a "single-seat" limitation on his certificate.
>
>
> * Sport pilots will have to take a biennial flight review (BFI). A
> pilot
> with a "single-seat" limitation will still have to take a BFI, and he
> will
> have to take it in a two seat LSA.
>
>
> * The "driver's license medical" is not as liberal as many people
> thought
> it would be. If you have failed your aviation medical exam, you
> cannot fly
> with just a driver's license. If you lose your driver's license for
> any
> reason (like failure to have insurance) you cannot fly an LSA (unless
> you
> get a third class medical.) If your doctor tells you that you can't
> operate
> a motor vehicle (vision impairment, taking prescription drugs, etc.)
> you
> cannot fly an LSA.
>
>
> * A sport pilot may not fly above 10,000 feet MSL. He cannot fly
> above
> 10,000 feet even to cross over high terrain. (If you live near
> Denver, you
> won't be able to fly more than 5,000 feet AGL.)
>
>
> * A sport pilot must have at least 3 miles visibility to fly.
>
>
> * No night flying.
>
>
> * No towing.
>
>
> * You cannot demonstrate LSA for sale if you are a "salesman." (The
> definition of a "salesman" is not given.)
>
>
> * A sport pilot may fly in airspace where radio control is required,
> but
> only with additional training and a logbook endorsement.
>
>
> * Although an LSA is allowed to have a top speed (in level flight)
> of 120
> knots, a sport pilot must have additional training and a logbook
> endorsement
> to fly an LSA with a level flight speed of more than 87 knots.
>
>
> LSA MAINTENANCE
>
>
> * On "Special" LSA (those LSA delivered "turn-key" flyable by the
> manufacturer,) you are only allowed to do "preventative maintenance",
> and
> only if you are the owner of the Special LSA. (Preventive maintenance
> options are listed in FAR Part 43, Appendix "A".) If you want to do an
> annual inspection you must attend a 16-hour maintenance course. The
> 16-hour
> course only allows you to inspect your airplane for defects, it does
> not
> allow you to perform maintenance on the airplane.
>
>
> * If you want to do actual maintenance on the aircraft, you must
> attend a
> maintenance course of 80 hours for gliders and lighter-than-air
> aircraft,
> 120 hours for airplanes and 104 hours for weight-shift (trikes) and
> powered
> parachutes. (The original NPRM proposed 80 hours.) Maintenance
> students must
> pass a maintenance knowledge test with a score of at least 80%.
>
>
> An applicant for an LSA repairman certificate must take a
> maintenance
> course for each class of LSA
>
>
> * LSA will be subject to Airworthiness Directives ("AD") notices
>
>
> * Maintenance must be performed in accordance with the general
> aviation
> standards of FAR Part 43.
>
>
> * There can be no alternations made to an LSA unless it is approved
> by the
> manufacturer or the FAA.
>
>
> LSA EQUIPMENT
>
>
> * All two-seat LSAs must have an ELT.
>
>
> * LSA will be required to have a transponder to fly within Class B
> and
> Class C airspace, and the Class B "Mode C veil."
>
>
> * LSA must comply with FAR 91.213 (Inoperative Equipment) also known
> as the
> "Minimum Equipment List." This means that if you're on a cross-country
> flight and your tachometer breaks, you cannot fly home until it's
> fixed.
>
>
> ULTRALIGHT TRAINING
>
>
> * The two-seat ultralight Exemption for ultralight training will
> expire on
> January 31, 2008. After then, ultralight BFIs and AFIs will cease to
> exist.
>
>
> * All "fat" single seat ultralights and all two-seat ultralight
> trainers
> must be FAA inspected and converted to "experimental" LSA by August
> 31,
> 2007. (Apparently, if an ultralight trainer is not converted by
> August 31,
> 2007 it may still be used as an ultralight trainer until January 31,
> 2008,
> after which it must be junked.)
>
>
> * After an ultralight trainer is converted to an experimental LSA a
> Sport
> Pilot Instructor may use the converted experimental LSA as a Sport
> Pilot
> trainer (for compensation) until September 1, 2009.
>
>
> * An ultralight pilot must register with a national ultralight
> organization
> (ASC, EAA, USUA) by September 1, 2004 if he wants to have his
> ultralight
> flight time to count toward his sport pilot license. He must then
> take his
> Sport Pilot practical test by January 31, 2007.
>
>
> * Prospective LSA examiners who inspect and issue experimental LSA
> airworthiness certificates (DPEs) must attend a three-day FAA course.
>
>
> SPORT PILOT TRAINING
>
>
> * Prospective Sport Pilot Examiners must attend a 5-day FAA course.
>
>
> * Sport pilot instructors must have 150 hours of flight time.
>
>
> A sport pilot must be at least 17 years old, an Sport Pilot
> instructor 18
> years.
>
>
> This an abbreviated summary of the minimum required flight
> experience to
> be a sport pilot:
>
>
> Airplane: 20 hours total, 75 mile solo cross country
>
> Glider: 10 hours total
>
> Gyroplane: 20 hours total, 50 mile solo cross country
>
> Powered parachute: 12 hours total, 10 mile solo cross country
>
> Weight shift (trike): 20 hours total, 50 miles solo cross country
>
>
> This an abbreviated summary of the minimum required flight
> experience to
> be a private pilot weight shift or powered parachute:
>
>
> Powered parachute:: 25 hours total, including 3 hours of night
> flight, and a
> 25 mile solo cross country
>
>
> Weight-shift: 40 hours total, including 3 hours of night flying with
> a 75
> mile night cross country, and a 100 mile solo cross country
>
>
> Summary of sport pilot instructor requirements:
>
> --18 years of age
>
> --Knowledge exams on aeronautics and fundamental of instruction
>
> --Practical test
>
> --Have a sport pilot certificate or higher rating. A sport pilot
>
> instructor may teach private pilot weight-shift or private pilot
>
> powered parachute if the sport pilot instructor has at least a
>
> private pilot rating himself.
>
> --Required flight time:
>
> Airplane: 150 hours total time, 25 hours of cross
> country
>
> time
>
> Glider: 25 hours flight time
>
> Gyroplane: 125 hours flight time (at least 50 hours in a
>
> gyroplane) and 10 hours cross country
>
> Weight-shift: 150 hours total (50 in weight-shift,) 25 hours
>
> cross country
>
> Powered parachute: 100 hours total (50 in a powered parachute,)
> 15
>
> hours cross country
>
> --5 hours in the same make and model "set"
>
> --The sport pilot instructor must renew his instructor's
> certificate
>
> every two years, just as a general aviation instructor must do
>
> --an ultralight instructor must transition to sport pilot
> instructor
>
> by January 31, 2008 if he wants credit for his ultralight flight
>
> time
>
>
> MISCELLANEOUS
>
>
> * In the original Sport Pilot NPRM the FAA estimated the cost of
> implementing Sport Pilot (to the government and to the pilot
> community) to
> be $40.3 million dollars. After the OMB said that the FAA's economic
> figures
> were hogwash, the FAA went back to the ouiji board and revised their
> estimate of the cost of Sport Pilot to $221 million!
>
>
> Deadlines to remember:
>
>
> September 1, 2004 Effective date of the Sport Pilot rule. Deadline
>
> for an ultralight pilot to register with a
> national
>
> ultralight organization in order to have his
>
> ultralight flight time count toward his sport
> pilot
>
> certificate
>
>
> August 31, 2005 Deadline for recreational pilots and higher
>
> rated pilots to acquire the necessary flight
>
> time to apply for a category and class rating
>
> limited to a specific make and model of
>
> experimental aircraft
>
>
> January 31, 2007 Deadline for an ultralight pilot to take his sport
>
> pilot practical test if he wants his ultralight
>
> flight time to count toward his required sport
>
> pilot flight experience
>
>
> August 31, 2007 Last day that an experimental certificate will be
>
> issued to a "fat" ultralight or two-seat trainer
>
>
> January 31, 2008 Deadline for an ultralight instructor to take the
>
> practical test for sport pilot instructor and
> still
>
> receive credit for his ultralight instructing
>
> experience
>
>
> January 31, 2008 Ultralight two-seat training exemption expires
>
>
> September 1, 2009 Last day to be able to use an ultralight converted
>
> to an experimental LSA as a sport pilot trainer
> for
>
> compensation
> --- End forwarded message ---
>
>
> http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/jrDrlB/TM
>
>
> <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carolinasportflyers/
>
> <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
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>
>
> ________________________________ Message 20
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>
>
> Time: 04:01:13 PM PST US
> From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 912 UL Engine Temps / Flight testing.
> Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:00:40 -0400
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
>
> I took 7078A up for testing in the pattern this morning and got nervous
when the
> EMS limit light came on during climbout. The EGT was reading ~1500 Deg.,
the
> limit was set at 1450 (old habits die hard). CHT, Oil Pres, Oil Temp were
all
> normal. Rate of climb was immediately reduced and the light went out. I
nursed
> it up to about 1000' AGL, did a few gentle turns back to an approach
heading,
> made a good landing and went for the manuals. 'Did not see anything in the
> Operators or Maint. manuals so I called Lockwood.
>
> The fellow who answered the phone advised me that climbout EGT limit is
1620 Deg.,
> normal is 1470 and the high is 1560. He also gave me page and paragraph of
> the Installation Manual(?) that shows these figures. I will now review
that manual,
> re-set the EGT limit on my EMS and try again.
>
> Should I set the limit at 1620 or 1560 ?
>
> Flying and learning,
>
> Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 21
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>
>
> Time: 05:18:24 PM PST US
> From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: slip/Compass Indicator
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Any one see these sold by some US company?
> jerb
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 22
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>
>
> Time: 05:41:24 PM PST US
> From: al bumhoffer <abumhoffer@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Oil Pump Wanted
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: al bumhoffer <abumhoffer@yahoo.com>
>
> I'm looking to buy a oil pump for my oil injected
> 503DCDI on my Firestar II, Does anyone have one that
> they removed from a new engine that they decided to
> use premix instead?
> Al Bumhoffer
> Elkton, MI
> Firestar II, Installing
> tail feathers
>
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 23
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>
>
> Time: 05:57:58 PM PST US
> From: "Mark German" <aerofab@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 912 UL Engine Temps / Flight testing.
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mark German" <aerofab@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Hi Duane and all.
> About you high EGT temps. I have been flying my 912-Kolbra now for
80-Hrs.
> and have found my EGT temps are going this high during climbout. I have
my
> EMS set @ 1620/F. When it does this I just back off a bit and let it cool
> off. I don't quite know what to do about it. The first time the light
came
> on realy gets your attention. I thought I would check it out at OSH next
> week at the Rotax booth
> Mark German.
> 912-Kolbra. 80-Hrs.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 912 UL Engine Temps / Flight testing.
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
> >
> >
> > I took 7078A up for testing in the pattern this morning and got nervous
> when the EMS limit light came on during climbout. The EGT was reading
~1500
> Deg., the limit was set at 1450 (old habits die hard). CHT, Oil Pres, Oil
> Temp were all normal. Rate of climb was immediately reduced and the light
> went out. I nursed it up to about 1000' AGL, did a few gentle turns back
to
> an approach heading, made a good landing and went for the manuals. 'Did
not
> see anything in the Operators or Maint. manuals so I called Lockwood.
> >
> > The fellow who answered the phone advised me that climbout EGT limit is
> 1620 Deg., normal is 1470 and the high is 1560. He also gave me page and
> paragraph of the Installation Manual(?) that shows these figures. I will
now
> review that manual, re-set the EGT limit on my EMS and try again.
> >
> > Should I set the limit at 1620 or 1560 ?
> >
> > Flying and learning,
> >
> > Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912
> >
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "info" <info@aircrafttechsupport.com>
Hi kolbers!
Dondi & I will be at Oshkosh again this year. We'll be manning both the Poly-Fiber
and the Randolph booths in exhibit building "A", so please stop in & say Hi!
Thanks,
Jim & Dondi Miller
Aircraft Technical Support, Inc.
Poly-Fiber, Ceconite & Randolph Distributors
(Toll Free) (877) 877-3334
Web Site: www.poly-fiber.com
E-mail: info@aircrafttechsupport.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Jim & Dondi,
Y'know, I'm in the process of re-covering my MK III. A couple of years
ago I repainted my Firestar. I'm a real novice at this and needed a lot of
help. I got it from your staff. EVERY time I called I got real good advice
and the person on the phone didn't act like I was intruding on anything and
just stayed on the line 'till I completely got the help I needed. You've
got a great bunch of folks that are very customer-oriented. I certainly
recommend you guys to everyone. Thanks for the great service.
AsDave
Prescott, AZ
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----- Original Message -----
From: "info" <info@aircrafttechsupport.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Oshkosh!!
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "info" <info@aircrafttechsupport.com>
>
> Hi kolbers!
>
> Dondi & I will be at Oshkosh again this year. We'll be manning both the
Poly-Fiber and the Randolph booths in exhibit building "A", so please stop
in & say Hi!
>
> Thanks,
> Jim & Dondi Miller
> Aircraft Technical Support, Inc.
> Poly-Fiber, Ceconite & Randolph Distributors
> (Toll Free) (877) 877-3334
> Web Site: www.poly-fiber.com
> E-mail: info@aircrafttechsupport.com
>
>
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1.9 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours after Received: date
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Folks;
Just got off the phone with Bro John. He is in Dead Horse, Ak. Will fly to Narrow
on Monday. Plane and Pilot doing fine.
Jim Hauck
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles & Meredith Blackwell <wozani@optonline.net>
Many thanks to John Williamson for taking the time to answer some questions
off line for me on the new rule. I feel lucky that he has a good grasp of FAA
speak and some working knowledge of what they are saying in the new rule.
I will take his advice and make sure my MKII is registered correctly with one
of the ultralight organizations and my BFI papers are also finished before
Sept. 1, 2004. That will give me at least 3 years to figure out how to get everything
else taken care of. I would suggest everyone else at least do that minimal
bit to buy time to comply with the new rules.
In the meantime I will re-read the rules that I downloaded from the USUA website.
Thanks for everyone who is talking about and trying to understand these
rules, with lots of opinions we have a chance of getting it right.
Charlie, MKII in NJ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
TKS for the setrep Jim was wondering about him today. Do not archive
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: John Hauck
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
>
> Folks;
>
> Just got off the phone with Bro John. He is in Dead Horse, Ak. Will fly to
Narrow on Monday. Plane and Pilot doing fine.
>
> Jim Hauck
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "wiserguy" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
John and all,
Fly John, FLY!
Bob D.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: John Hauck
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
>
> Folks;
>
> Just got off the phone with Bro John. He is in Dead Horse, Ak. Will fly to
Narrow on Monday. Plane and Pilot doing fine.
>
> Jim Hauck
>
>
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1.9 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours after Received: date
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@earthlink.net>
Folks, I should have said Barrow instead of Narrow, Too many thumbs on my typing
hand.
Jim Hauck
Do not Achieve
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