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1. 03:20 AM - Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left (Jim Ballenger)
2. 05:17 AM - Re: Powerfin Pitch Setting (Richard Pike)
3. 05:03 PM - John H. Report (Bob N.)
4. 05:17 PM - Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left (Larry Bourne)
5. 05:32 PM - Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left (Larry Bourne)
6. 05:55 PM - Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left (Richard Swiderski)
7. 06:07 PM - Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left (Bob N.)
8. 07:39 PM - Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Duane
Keep those reports coming. I do like to read what others have to say about
the flying characteristics of their planes so I can be as prepared as I can
be when I fly my MK III X. I am going to start covering today.
Jim Ballenger
Flying a FS KXP 447
Building a MK III X
Virginia Beach, VA
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Roll to the left
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> I took 7078A up early this morning and tooled around above the pattern for
about an hour just getting acquainted with her in zero wind conditions. She
loves the air but has a tendency to roll to the left. Tried to keep her
straight with rudder but it did not work. I evoked the 'ole
bungy-to-the-right fix. Inelegant but effective. Temps were all normal and
that Lockwood double vacuum gage carb adjust procedure made her run very
smooth. When I turned to final I found an ~10 mph cross wind but got her
down with no problem. After 3 years with my Firefly this one felt like a
C5A.
>
> Back in the hangar I noticed that the strut fairings were both fairly
loose on the struts. 'Can't help wondering if those fairings could be used
to trim out the left yaw. Has anyone else tried this? The fairings could be
made to act like lower wings (huge aspect ratio). I'll try to use them next
time up.
>
> Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, MK3/912c/IVO
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powerfin Pitch Setting |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
If it were me, I would leave it alone until you fly it. If you are getting
6350 static, you will get 6450-6500 on climbout, and about 6600 in full
throttle level flight. Take any more pitch out of it and you'll be
wondering why your EGT's are so high in cruise. I have the 582 propped for
6100 static and I get 6250 on climbout and 6500 full throttle level flight.
I have tried taking out a bit more pitch to improve takeoff, but had to
back off, because the EGT starts to go up.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
(The FSII is now in silver)
do not archive
At 05:03 PM 7/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp"
><jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
>
>Terry,
>I have the same set up on my FS. I used .095 as recommended in the
>instructions and found out I could only get 6100 RPM static. I used that to
>run the break-in sequence. I have since adjusted to .115 and I'm still only
>getting about 6350. I was hoping to get it to 6500 but I think I'll just
>leave it at that setting until I do some test flying. First flight is yet to
>happen but I'm close.
>
>James Tripp, FSII, Alabama
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Terry Davis" <davistcs@eoni.com>
>To: "Kolb List" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Powerfin Pitch Setting
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
John made a successful run from the North Slope to North Pole (near
Fairbanks) and will stay there with another old friend for a few days.
They are going to Fifth-Wheel to Valdez for a little salmon fishing from
shore. He may then continue with his original plans of flying back
through Washington State and Oregon, then through Nevada, Utah, and
Colorado, and home to Alabama. But maybe he'll go back north to Inuvik,
NWT to see territory he's never visited. He says "Once I am home safely
in Alabama, it is too late to fly to Inuvik."
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Heck of an idea........kind of like skinny ailerons, eh ?? Please let us
know how it works. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Roll to the left
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> Back in the hangar I noticed that the strut fairings were both fairly
loose on the struts. 'Can't help wondering if those fairings could be used
to trim out the left yaw. Has anyone else tried this? The fairings could be
made to act like lower wings (huge aspect ratio). I'll try to use them next
time up.
>
> Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, MK3/912c/IVO
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hi John:
Got to thinking the other day about your idea to fly to Inuvik. Food for
thought...............a few years ago, I did a little research on a possible
flight up there, and found that on the peninsula north of Inuvik is the town
of Tuktoyaktuk. If I remember correctly, Inuvik is a replacement town in
the MacKenzie River delta to replace, I think, Aklavik, which was, or is
being, washed away. Hard to remember now, but Tuk's gravel peninsula is now
being eroded by heavy winter seas that are no longer being suppressed by the
heavy winter ice pack. Global warming and all, ya know. Might be the last
chance to see that town, too, and it ain't much farther.
Dreamer Lar, safe (??) in the desert. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Roll to the left
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jhauck@elmore.rr.com
> I flew in near freezing temps on the North Slope, yesterday, on my way
back south. As soon as I flew through Atigun Pass, the temps went from 37F
to 60F. I was then overdressed with thermal underwear and electric vest.
hehehe
>
> It is 60F in North Pole this afternoon. Am enjoying the cool air and
dreading the heat I will soon encounter in the south.
> Take care,
>
> john h
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| Subject: | Mk3/912 Roll to the left |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@isp.com>
Duane,
I sure enjoy reading about your experiments & trying to tweek the
must out your plane. Regarding using the lift struts for yaw control, I
think it would not be effective. The lift they would provide is negligible
compared to the increase in drag produced. Using them as auxiliary wings
has historically been shown to induce control problems. I don't recall the
reasoning though. Probably the most efficient (& most impractical) would be
to readjust the angle of incidence of one wing. The down tab on the
appropriate aileron, I believe is the next best solution. Drag wise, I'd
predict the bungie would edge out the trim tab for efficiency, but we are
counting gnats at this point.
...Waiting for my redrive from Russia to clear customs, (& praying for heat
in CA so I can beat Big Lar into the air) Richard Swiderski
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Roll to the left
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Heck of an idea........kind of like skinny ailerons, eh ?? Please let us
know how it works. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Roll to the left
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> Back in the hangar I noticed that the strut fairings were both fairly
loose on the struts. 'Can't help wondering if those fairings could be used
to trim out the left yaw. Has anyone else tried this? The fairings could be
made to act like lower wings (huge aspect ratio). I'll try to use them next
time up.
>
> Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, MK3/912c/IVO
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
I think Bellanca tried ( late 20s) some really wide lift struts along
with his very wide fuselages to get added lift. Gotta research this
since am having trouble with onset of Oldtimer's Disease.
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy Aug. story out tomorrow, July
to the shredder.
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3/912 Roll to the left |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hrumphf...............an' after all the nice things I said about'cha.
Do not Archive. :-)
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@isp.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Roll to the left
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@isp.com>
>
> Duane,
>
> I sure enjoy reading about your experiments & trying to tweek the
> must out your plane. Regarding using the lift struts for yaw control, I
> think it would not be effective. The lift they would provide is
negligible
> compared to the increase in drag produced. Using them as auxiliary wings
> has historically been shown to induce control problems. I don't recall
the
> reasoning though. Probably the most efficient (& most impractical) would
be
> to readjust the angle of incidence of one wing. The down tab on the
> appropriate aileron, I believe is the next best solution. Drag wise, I'd
> predict the bungie would edge out the trim tab for efficiency, but we are
> counting gnats at this point.
>
> ...Waiting for my redrive from Russia to clear customs, (& praying for
heat
> in CA so I can beat Big Lar into the air) Richard Swiderski
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Roll to the left
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Heck of an idea........kind of like skinny ailerons, eh ?? Please let us
> know how it works. Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
> To: "kolblist" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Roll to the left
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> >
> > Back in the hangar I noticed that the strut fairings were both fairly
> loose on the struts. 'Can't help wondering if those fairings could be used
> to trim out the left yaw. Has anyone else tried this? The fairings could
be
> made to act like lower wings (huge aspect ratio). I'll try to use them
next
> time up.
> >
> > Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, MK3/912c/IVO
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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