---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/05/04: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:55 AM - Re: Headroom? (Don Gherardini) 2. 04:22 AM - Re: New Kolb Mark III Owner in Illinois (Richard Pike) 3. 04:45 AM - Michigan Fall Color Thumb Tour (Fackler, Ken) 4. 06:02 AM - Re: Headroom? (RD) 5. 06:30 AM - Re: Kolb Ultrastar for sale (Bruce L Borg) 6. 08:08 AM - High EGT's on 447's (Mark Anliker) 7. 08:26 AM - Re: MKIII 912 installation (Frank Reynen) 8. 08:38 AM - BRS Installation in a Mark-III (Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM) 9. 09:04 AM - Re: MKIII 912 installation (Giovanni Day) 10. 09:13 AM - 912 exhaust (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com) 11. 09:53 AM - Re: 912 exhaust (N27SB@aol.com) 12. 10:01 AM - Re: 912 exhaust (Giovanni Day) 13. 10:07 AM - Re: Headroom? (Jack & Louise Hart) 14. 10:18 AM - Re: 912 exhaust (N27SB@aol.com) 15. 11:48 AM - Re: Headroom? (RD) 16. 02:43 PM - Re: 4AO84 (was Headroom?) (RD) 17. 02:44 PM - GS - Airmap 100 (Mike Pierzina) 18. 03:26 PM - Re: Headroom? (Don Gherardini) 19. 04:09 PM - GPS-GS-Airmap100 (Mike Pierzina) 20. 04:30 PM - Re: GPS-GS-Airmap100 (RD) 21. 04:35 PM - Re: Headroom? (RD) 22. 04:57 PM - Re: GPS-GS-Airmap100 (Ken korenek) 23. 05:03 PM - Re: High EGT's on 447's (Larry Cottrell) 24. 06:19 PM - Airmap 100 (Mike Pierzina) 25. 06:25 PM - Excuses (Mike Pierzina) 26. 07:25 PM - Re: 4AO84 (was Headroom?) (HShack@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:55:01 AM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Headroom? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" Rusty, THe headroom in a firefly is pretty low...I am 5'10 3/4 and my headset rubbed the underside of the gap cover when I put a pad in the seat, which was pretty necessary for me with the sling seat. (made my butt ache)... I replaced that gap cover with a fabricated one with no "Bottom"...so I gained the thicknes of the wing in headroom...so it is very satisfactory. There are pics somewhere on the website below of the modified gap cover. Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:34 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolb Mark III Owner in Illinois --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Like a Cessna 150 with two big'uns in it on a hot day. Hope it has the dual carbs... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 11:11 AM 8/4/2004 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > > >Ok guys I have agreed to check Keith out in his new bird. I need some >advice. The plane has a 503 with a empty weight of around 480lbs with 430lbs >of passengers and 60 lbs of fuel how is this going to fly. >Rick Neilsen > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Keith Kellogg" >To: >Subject: Kolb-List: New Kolb Mark III Owner in Illinois > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Keith Kellogg" > > > > Last week I purchased a Kolb Mark III Classic that was built by an AP > > Mechanic in Sparta MI for his son who rarely flew it. It is a beautiful > > plane that won Grand Champion at Oshkosh in 92 and looks like the day it >was > > built. I live West of Chicago and plan on keeping the plane at Cushing >Fld. > > > > I am a private pilot with about 50 hours of taildragger experience. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:36 AM PST US From: "Fackler, Ken" Subject: Kolb-List: Michigan Fall Color Thumb Tour --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Fackler, Ken" For any pilots on the list interested in participating, the Greater Thumb Ultralight Flyers (GTUF) is hosting another Thumb Tour on September 18. The route begins at Kirk (Snuffy) Smith's field near Columbiaville and encompasses an estimated 240 mile loop up and around the so-called Thumb of Michigan. A fuel truck will be following the tour and there will be a pizza lunch at Bad Axe. The thumb area is always very pretty country to fly over, the coastline time will be grand, and with any luck, the fall colors should be lovely. For more information, please go to this website: http://www.staliteaviation.com And then click on the GTUF button. Alternatively, you may contact me directly off-list at: kfackler@ameritech.net -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:16 AM PST US From: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Headroom? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Hi Don, Thanks for the message. I'm thinking that I'd have to do something similar with the gap seal in either a FF or a FS. Is that your plane in the link? Man, what paint job! Unfortunately, it looks like there were links to pics at the bottom of the page, but they don't seem to work. If you can find a link to the modified gap seal pic, I'd like to see what you did. Thanks, Rusty (deciding what to build is half the fun) ------------------------------ Rusty, THe headroom in a firefly is pretty low...I am 5'10 3/4 and my headset rubbed the underside of the gap cover when I put a pad in the seat, which was pretty necessary for me with the sling seat. (made my butt ache)... I replaced that gap cover with a fabricated one with no "Bottom"...so I gained the thicknes of the wing in headroom...so it is very satisfactory. There are pics somewhere on the website below of the modified gap cover. Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:40 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Ultrastar for sale From: Bruce L Borg --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce L Borg Kolbers Just a reminder. A nice flying Ultrastar, reduced price. See on Barnstormers. Bruce Borg do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:27 AM PST US From: Mark Anliker Subject: Kolb-List: High EGT's on 447's --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mark Anliker Guy and others with 447's: Ultraflight radio is a web based weekly radio show. On Tuesday's show, there was a good segment on high mid-range EGT's on 447's. Go to the link given below for Tuesday's (8-3-04) show, and listen to the segment with Tom Olenik (of Olenik Aviation). His gives good advice for a fix that is specific to 447's. http://www.ultraflightradio.com/index.html Mark Anliker Sadorus, IL ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:31 AM PST US From: "Frank Reynen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MKIII 912 installation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Reynen" Hi Giovanni, I am probably the only one that installed the carbs on the backside of the 912 and mounted the oiltank behind and under the engine . But I have more than 350 hrs on this system and have always had good oil pressure and monitore with EIS. I keep the oil level a little higher in the tank to offset the lower location since it is a little out of the Rotax specs. See my webside and follow directions to the tech page and a picture of the 912 engine and oiltank below will give you some idea. www.webcom.com/reynen Frank Reynen MKIII /912@ 834 hrs on Lotus floats > Hello all, > > I am having trouble finding a suitable mounting system for the oil tank > on my 912 powered MKIII. Any photos and or ideas would be very helpful. > Thanks > > Giovanni > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:27 AM PST US From: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM Subject: Kolb-List: BRS Installation in a Mark-III --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr ASC/TM << Dennis: How do you route the bridle for the 'chute so that the MK III remains near upright under the canopy? It's not real obvious from the pic. Thanks, George Alexander >> George, and Kolb Gang - The bridle exits the plane from the bottom, directly beneath the Softpack. From there, it is routed aft, along the bottom longeron (on the aircraft exterior) to the aft part of the cage. Then up, following the aftmost vertical cage member to the gap seal region and then forward, to finally attach to the 2-inch main tube at the top of the cabin, right at the CG. Incidently, the bridle is routed around the OUTSIDE of the aileron bellcrank, in order that the bridle remain clear (and to the exterior) of the aileron p/p tubes. Result is a clear, unobstructed path for the bridle to "unzip" from the aircraft exterior, in the event the BRS is deployed. (I guess another photo or two on Photoshare would have presented a clearer picture of the setup - sorry! I'll take some more pictures and post 'em in the near future.) Dennis Kirby Verner, Powerfin-72 Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:07 AM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: MKIII 912 installation --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Frank, Very interesting setup. I was under the impression that the oil tank HAD to be higher than that to work properly. What information gave you the idea this tank location would work? Giovanni MKIII/912 890566 covering the wings and making a terrible job of it. --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Reynen" --> Hi Giovanni, I am probably the only one that installed the carbs on the backside of the 912 and mounted the oiltank behind and under the engine . But I have more than 350 hrs on this system and have always had good oil pressure and monitore with EIS. I keep the oil level a little higher in the tank to offset the lower location since it is a little out of the Rotax specs. See my webside and follow directions to the tech page and a picture of the 912 engine and oiltank below will give you some idea. www.webcom.com/reynen Frank Reynen MKIII /912@ 834 hrs on Lotus floats > Hello all, > > I am having trouble finding a suitable mounting system for the oil > tank on my 912 powered MKIII. Any photos and or ideas would be very > helpful. Thanks > > Giovanni > > == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:48 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: 912 exhaust From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com 08/05/2004 12:14:06 PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Kolb fans: I came across the following web site in my search for solutions to cracking in my rotax 912 exhaust system that I thought was worth sharing: http://www.rick-thomason.com/ste_003.htm It seems to me that this exhaust system would have significantly less potential for cracking given its size and design. If anybody has experience or further information, please pass it on. I also understand that TNK has their own prototype 912 exhaust system, possibly exhibited at OshKosh, but I havent seen any pictures yet. Anybody happen to catch a glimpse? In the meantime, I have sent in my gearbox to have the centrifugal clutch installed that now comes standard on any new 912 engine. Kerry at Lockwood indicated to me that the new clutch would help dampen harmonic vibration at cruise speeds as well as the rough running at start up. Its not clear to me how that is accomplished, but I figure the clutch is a plus for the engine even if it doesnt fix my problem (there's got to be a reason why they no longer sell the engine without the clutch!). regards Erich Weaver ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:11 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 exhaust --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 8/5/2004 12:14:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com writes: > I also understand that TNK has their own prototype 912 exhaust system, > possibly exhibited at OshKosh, but I havent seen any pictures yet. Anybody > happen to catch a glimpse? > > Yes Erich, TNK does have a new exhaust system for the 912. They ran it at SNF 2004 and also at OSH 2004. It is very compact and not prone to stress because it is a split system. It does not seem to have any power loss and has a nice sound. I will try to post a picture. It sells for $895.00 Steve Boetto mkiii ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:01:22 AM PST US From: "Giovanni Day" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 912 exhaust --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" Erich, I had a friend take a photo of the extra and have a nice photo. Here is a link. http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/200/200609/folders/161503/117 4116IMAG0008sm.JPG Giovanni Day MKIII 912 80566 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Subject: Kolb-List: 912 exhaust --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Kolb fans: I came across the following web site in my search for solutions to cracking in my rotax 912 exhaust system that I thought was worth sharing: http://www.rick-thomason.com/ste_003.htm It seems to me that this exhaust system would have significantly less potential for cracking given its size and design. If anybody has experience or further information, please pass it on. I also understand that TNK has their own prototype 912 exhaust system, possibly exhibited at OshKosh, but I havent seen any pictures yet. Anybody happen to catch a glimpse? In the meantime, I have sent in my gearbox to have the centrifugal clutch installed that now comes standard on any new 912 engine. Kerry at Lockwood indicated to me that the new clutch would help dampen harmonic vibration at cruise speeds as well as the rough running at start up. Its not clear to me how that is accomplished, but I figure the clutch is a plus for the engine even if it doesnt fix my problem (there's got to be a reason why they no longer sell the engine without the clutch!). regards Erich Weaver == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:07:03 AM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Headroom? --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart At 08:02 AM 8/5/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> > >Hi Don, > >Thanks for the message. I'm thinking that I'd have to do something similar >with the gap seal in either a FF or a FS. Is that your plane in the link? >Man, what paint job! Unfortunately, it looks like there were links to pics >at the bottom of the page, but they don't seem to work. If you can find a >link to the modified gap seal pic, I'd like to see what you did. > >Thanks, >Rusty (deciding what to build is half the fun) > Rusty, I am just six foot but short in the legs. My head bumped the gap seal bottom surface. I released the seat from the rear lower cross tube and turned the seat into a true sling seat. This let my cheeks slide down and forward and raised my knees to clear the front cross tube and to get my feet on the rudder pedals and it keeps my head away from the gap seal. With a thin pad under my cheeks, it is very comfortable. It took a little while to get used of my rear swinging a little side to side but now I am used to it. There is a side benefit to this seat arrangement in that you can easily get to everything below and behind the seat. It makes it much easier to poar gas into the take directly from the can because you can pull the seat back forward. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:18:48 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 exhaust --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 8/5/2004 1:01:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, gde01@bellsouth.net writes: > > I had a friend take a photo of the extra and have a nice photo. Here is > a link. > http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/200/200609/folders/161503/117 > 4116IMAG0008sm.JPG > > Giovanni Day > MKIII 912 80566 > Thanks G Day, that's tahe one, very light,simple and you can flip it around in a bunch of ways. There is almost notahaing to fatigue. Steve Boetto do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:48:36 AM PST US From: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Headroom? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> I am just six foot but short in the legs. My head bumped the gap seal bottom surface. I released the seat from the rear lower cross tube and turned the seat into a true sling seat. ------------------------- Hi Jack, I've suspected there was a certain amount of room to be gained by modifying the seat, but this is certainly the simplest way to do it. I figure you can only lower it so much, before you start hitting something underneath, but every inch counts. Best thing to do would be to go sit in one, and in a couple months, I could probably trust the RV-3 to take me up to London in about 2-1/2 hours. In the mean time, maybe I can find a plane locally to look at. Anyone near Pensacola FL? Anyone planning to go to SERFI in Evergreen, AL around the first of Oct? Thanks for the message. Rusty ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:52 PM PST US From: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 4AO84 (was Headroom?) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Airbike project (selling because I decided I want something else) Give details, please. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ------------------ I just realized where I saw your name- the surplus engine group. Are you putting a 4AO84 engine on your FS-II? Cheers, Rusty (sold mine) ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:21 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: GS - Airmap 100 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Hey Guys, Have any of you that own the Lowrance Airmap 100 checked your Ground Speed ? I checked mine awhile back (before warranty expired) and the GS read 10mph SLOWER....after I sent it back they REPLACED it... I just checked out the new one they sent me and it's 10mph SLOWER TOO....I've gotta call them again, but I was wondering if any others read this way.... I have a Lowrance Eagle , and the GS is just fine on it. Gotta Fly... Mike in MN Transponder should be here tommorow do not archive My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... -- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:05 PM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Headroom? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" Rusty... Hmm dont know whats going on there..I jsut looked at it and the first time it wouldnt load all theway...so I quit explorer and went back again and then it loaded and the link buttons were all there and worked... Probably someting about a awful lot of bytes in those pics and info....the website has grown alot and take alot of time sometimes to load up,,,] here is a Direct link to the "Mod Page"..... http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/modifcations.htm Don Gherardini FireFly 098 http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:05 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: GPS-GS-Airmap100 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Hey guys, My first message got lost...here we go again , I bought the Airmap 100 , back when people on the list said they were on sale for $225. , It sat around for 11 months and finally I took it with me on a road trip just to check it out.... The ground speed was reading 10mph too slow....I called Lowrance and I sent it to them...they replaced it. I check out the NEW one and it is also 10mph TOO SLOW. My Lowrance "Eagle" works just fine , Lowrance is sending me a Fed-X slip to ship this other one back.... I was just wondering if any of you other guys that bought the Airmap 100 has ever checked the GS. And where it's "OFF" is right in the cruise range of the Firestar My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... -- ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:48 PM PST US From: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: GPS-GS-Airmap100 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> I check out the NEW one and it is also 10mph TOO SLOW. My Lowrance "Eagle" works just fine , Lowrance is sending me a Fed-X slip to ship this other one back.... ----------------------- I know this is probably a silly question, and something you've checked, but is there any change the Airmap is reading in knots, rather than mph? I can't help but ask, since 65 kts is 75 mph. Rusty (new again) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:35:20 PM PST US From: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Headroom? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Thanks Don. The direct link worked perfectly. Very descriptive pics too. Nice job! Rusty (XM weather now online) ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:40 PM PST US From: Ken korenek Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS-GS-Airmap100 --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken korenek What are you checking the GPS speed against? What is your speed standard? Before you can say a GPS speed is low, you have to KNOW EXACTLY how fast you are really going. If you're checking it against a car speedometer, you better find a cop on radar and let him calibrate your speed. Just asking some basic questions... It is very difficult for the speed readings on a GPS to be off. If it's malfunctioning to the point that the speed is wrong, then a whole lot of other functions are not working either. Ken Mike Pierzina wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > >Hey guys, > My first message got lost...here we go again , > > I bought the Airmap 100 , back when people on the list said they were on sale for $225. , It sat around for 11 months and finally I took it with me on a road trip just to check it out.... > The ground speed was reading 10mph too slow....I called Lowrance and I sent it to them...they replaced it. > I check out the NEW one and it is also 10mph TOO SLOW. My Lowrance "Eagle" works just fine , Lowrance is sending me a Fed-X slip to ship this other one back.... > I was just wondering if any of you other guys that bought the Airmap 100 has ever checked the GS. And where it's "OFF" is right in the cruise range of the Firestar > >My Web Site: >http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html > > >Sometimes you just have to take the leap >and build your wings on the way down... > Gotta Fly... > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:30 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: High EGT's on 447's --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" Thanks for the link to Ultraflight radio. I enjoyed the talk by Tom about the 447. I also had the same problem with a hot spot in the midrange of the 447. There was no one to talk to about the problem, but what I did was to buy another needle from CPS. I do believe that it was a K type needle. That had a different taper to the midrange and solved the problem for me. Larry, Oregon ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:37 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: Airmap 100 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Thanks Kirk & John, I checked the book and "Nautical" is the default setting.... I don't know why the Tech guys at Lowrance didn't bring this up... In fact they agreed the first one that was sent back was "Bad" and that the Malfuntion was intermittent....Oops Well, when all else fails , read the book... Thanks again guys, Gotta Fly... Mike in MN do not archive Transponder should be here tommorow.... My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... -- ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:54 PM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: Excuses --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Well, In the book's examples...when the speed is nautical there's a "kn" after or below the number....It wasn't showing in the GS box that I was looking at that's why I figured it was statute... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... -- ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:25:24 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 4AO84 (was Headroom?) --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 8/5/2004 5:44:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, 13brv3c@bellsouth.net writes: I just realized where I saw your name- the surplus engine group. Are you putting a 4AO84 engine on your FS-II? Cheers, Rusty (sold mine) No, the FS II will still have my trusty 503. We are looking for a fuselage that we can adapt Himax wings & empennage & put the 084 on that. Maybe an Airbike...... Howard Shackleford FS II SC