---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/08/04: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:46 AM - Narco 155 Transponder w/AR850 Encoding Altimeter (Mike Pierzina) 2. 06:45 AM - Re: Narco 155 Transponder w/AR850 Encoding Altimeter (Larry Bourne) 3. 08:47 AM - Fort Nelson, BC (jhauck@elmore.rr.com) 4. 09:11 AM - Re: Fort Nelson, BC (Bob Dalton) 5. 10:09 AM - Re: Wing Folding SlingShot (Richard Swiderski) 6. 10:48 AM - [ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 7. 11:23 AM - The Jabi flyies!!!! (woody) 8. 12:34 PM - Re: The Jabi flyies!!!! (Richard Swiderski) 9. 02:04 PM - Re: The Jabi flyies!!!! (Bob N.) 10. 02:22 PM - Re: electric starters (Bob N.) 11. 02:43 PM - Re: SP/LSA and amphibs (Frank Reynen) 12. 02:56 PM - Re: The Jabi flyies!!!! (Jim Ballenger) 13. 03:04 PM - Re: SP/LSA and amphibs (Robert Laird) 14. 05:13 PM - kolb aircraft (Jimmy) 15. 07:02 PM - Re: Wing Folding SlingShot (RD) 16. 07:18 PM - Rudder stop (al bumhoffer) 17. 07:22 PM - Re: Electric Fue Pump Question (Richard Swiderski) 18. 07:49 PM - Re: Rudder stop (robert bean) 19. 08:24 PM - Re: The Jabi flies!!!! (woody) 20. 08:24 PM - Re: Fort Nelson, BC (James and Cathy Tripp) 21. 08:39 PM - Re: The Jabi flyies!!!! (jerb) 22. 08:52 PM - Re: The Jabi flies!!!! (jerb) 23. 09:58 PM - Thermocouples (herbgh@juno.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:02 AM PST US From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: Narco 155 Transponder w/AR850 Encoding Altimeter --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" Hey Guys, I updated my web site and put building pictures of the Transponder process...here's the page: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/LSXXIX.html Gotta Fly... Mike in MN Gotta love those digital cameras!! do not archive My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... Gotta Fly... -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:11 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Narco 155 Transponder w/AR850 Encoding Altimeter --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" You do nice work, Mike. I bought mine (Narco AT 150) from an aircraft radio shop in Port Angeles, WA, and he completely pre-wired it for me. I had to cut the harness to get it thru some of the tight spots when installing, and crossed 2 wires when re-connecting it. Found out then that the Narco tech department is good, pleasant, and easy to work with. And yes, the digital cameras are a joy to work with...........I sure enjoy mine. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Pierzina" Subject: Kolb-List: Narco 155 Transponder w/AR850 Encoding Altimeter > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" > > Hey Guys, > I updated my web site and put building pictures of the Transponder process...here's the page: > > > http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/LSXXIX.html > > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > > Gotta love those digital cameras!! > > > do not archive > > My Web Site: > http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html > > > Sometimes you just have to take the leap > and build your wings on the way down... > Gotta Fly... > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Fort Nelson, BC From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: jhauck@elmore.rr.com ------------------------------------------------ Search the web by email! mailto:www@web2mail.com adding your search to the subject line like this: search summer vacations ------------------------------------------------ Morning All: Sitting here in Fort Nelson, British Columbia, twitling my thumbs. Arrived here last night. Got fuel and lucked out to be the first to arrive, so..........I got the "crash pad" (free bed and bath). Only one available. Last time I came through here I missed it and slept on an old couch. Was getting my gear out of the airplane and noticed a distinct absence of air in the left main. Same tire I replaced the tube in at Knik River, early on in my flight. Long story short. Finally, got the wheel off with some borrowed tools, got the tube to town, and got a patch on it. Some friendly Canadians need several pats on the back for helping out a stranded Alabamian. Worked in their shop, at the airport, until very late, then surrendered to fatigue and anxiety, and called it a night. Had trouble getting the split rim, with spacer, reassembled. Waiting now for the gents from Ft Nelson to return to the airport this morning to finish getting the wheel and tire back together to continue flying back south and home to Alabama. Been a while since I had access to a computer. Since the last time, I have flown to Dawson City, Yukon Territory, Eagle Plains, YT, Fort McPherson, Northwest Territory, Inuvik, NT, Tuktoyaktuk, NT. Then.......back tracked to Dawson City and south to Whitehorse. RON'd Whitehorse and arrived here last night. Was a good flight yesterday, but alas, I am here until I can get the tire and wheel fixed and continue my flight. This flat could have happened at some lesser desireable places, i.e., sand and gravel bars, remote gravel strips, remote villages at near freezing temps. I am very grateful to be where I am in moderate temps, need a jacket on this morning. If I can get out of here by noon, I can be well into Alberta or maybe even Saskatchewan tonight. I plan to enter the States at Minot, ND, with a direct flight to Titus, Alabama. Today is Day 44. I am ready to head for the house. Take care, john h Fort Nelson, BC ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:01 AM PST US From: "Bob Dalton" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fort Nelson, BC --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Dalton" John, Great to hear from you and update on your journey! Cannot wait to see all those beautiful "Fuji" pics. Fly on and clear blue skies to ya! Bob Dalton Manteca, CA do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kolb-List: Fort Nelson, BC > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jhauck@elmore.rr.com > > ------------------------------------------------ > Search the web by email! mailto:www@web2mail.com > adding your search to the subject line like this: > search summer vacations > ------------------------------------------------ > > > Morning All: > > Sitting here in Fort Nelson, British Columbia, twitling my thumbs. Arrived here last night. Got fuel and lucked out to be the first to arrive, so..........I got the "crash pad" (free bed and bath). Only one available. Last time I came through here I missed it and slept on an old couch. > > Was getting my gear out of the airplane and noticed a distinct absence of air in the left main. Same tire I replaced the tube in at Knik River, early on in my flight. > > Long story short. Finally, got the wheel off with some borrowed tools, got the tube to town, and got a patch on it. Some friendly Canadians need several pats on the back for helping out a stranded Alabamian. Worked in their shop, at the airport, until very late, then surrendered to fatigue and anxiety, and called it a night. Had trouble getting the split rim, with spacer, reassembled. Waiting now for the gents from Ft Nelson to return to the airport this morning to finish getting the wheel and tire back together to continue flying back south and home to Alabama. > > Been a while since I had access to a computer. Since the last time, I have flown to Dawson City, Yukon Territory, Eagle Plains, YT, Fort McPherson, Northwest Territory, Inuvik, NT, Tuktoyaktuk, NT. Then.......back tracked to Dawson City and south to Whitehorse. RON'd Whitehorse and arrived here last night. Was a good flight yesterday, but alas, I am here until I can get the tire and wheel fixed and continue my flight. > > This flat could have happened at some lesser desireable places, i.e., sand and gravel bars, remote gravel strips, remote villages at near freezing temps. I am very grateful to be where I am in moderate temps, need a jacket on this morning. > > If I can get out of here by noon, I can be well into Alberta or maybe even Saskatchewan tonight. I plan to enter the States at Minot, ND, with a direct flight to Titus, Alabama. Today is Day 44. I am ready to head for the house. > > Take care, > > john h > Fort Nelson, BC > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:23 AM PST US From: "Richard Swiderski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Wing Folding SlingShot --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" Rusty, I stumbled upon an easy way to fold the SS wings, with no help. You use a telescoping tent pole modified so the top tip will fit into the tube that hangs down out of the bottom of the wing, the one that is used to hold the wing during transport. First, chock the wheels. Then, lay out the wing struts & put in the cage-side pins & gently allow the outside ends to hang down. Next, walk the wing out & swivel it into place as usual. Then pick up the tent pole & insert its tip into the support tube. The pole is adjusted to the height that will keep the wing at just below its normal height. Position the bottom of the pole so that it is about 10" behind the wing support tube & about 10" outside the wing support tube. This causes the wing to fall forward which of course it can't because its bottoming out on the cage. At this point, if you let go, the wing tip cannot fall down because the pole is holding it up, the wing can't fall forward, because the cage is holding it & the chocked wheels are holding the cage. Now you walk in front of wing & around pod & put the front pin in place. Then go back & finish by putting in the outside pin of the wing strut, by lifting the wing up a coupe inches, allowing the tent pole to fall out, & guide strut end into wing receiver & you are done! The one caveat here is that this doesn't work if wind conditions are such that the wing can lift up. Richard Swiderski SlingShot --> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Greetings, (snip) Also, can anyone confirm how the wing folding works. On the SS, you had to support the wing, while disconnecting the strut. In other words, you couldn't allow the wingtip to be lowered to the ground like you can on the FS and FF. Is the Kolbra like this to? Thanks, Rusty (getting in deep now) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:32 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: [ Mike Pierzina ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Mike Pierzina Subject: Narco 155 Transponder and AR 850 Alt Encoder http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/planecrazzzy@lycos.com.08.08.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:42 AM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" Finally after a couple years I am back flying the Thunderbird (modified Mk 111). I did the last of the small details today and ran out of excuses not to fly. I adjusted the idle a bit and cursed the guy (and questioned the marital status of his parents) who designed the location of the idle adjust screw. A couple taxis down my strip showed everything running as it should with a little variation in the cht. Takeoff was uneventfull with me holding back a bit and climbing out at 600 fpm at 50 mph. I did not try for a full speed run yet as in my excitement I forgot to check what the operating numbers were for the engine. I found at 1800 rpm I could maintain 50/55 mph easily. However my cht readings were 100* apart. I flew around trying different speeds and directions to see if I could alter the situation. I could but not enough. Then I noticed the tach was reading lower than I had set it. Then it went to zero then it went back to normal then zero and so on for the remaining few minutes of flight. Landing was uneventfull. Reviewing the situation I made jumper cables so I could swap my cht gauges at the wiring harness. A few runs up and down the runway confirmed the sensors are at fault. Any ideas to find out which one is right? All flight numbers taken from standard gauges not vented to a static port. Engine numbers from an EIS unit. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:28 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" Woody, Stick each one in a small can of boiling water. They should then read 212 degrees F, assuming you are at sea level. ...Richard Swiderski -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woody Subject: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" .....I made jumper cables so I could swap my cht gauges at the wiring harness. A few runs up and down the runway confirmed the sensors are at fault. Any ideas to find out which one is right? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:36 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." re: testing CHT sender in boiling water---that's OK, just suspend it off the bottom of pan so it doesn't get a false (too high) reading. Bob N. http://www.angelfire,com/rpg/ronoy new story for August do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:36 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Kolb-List: re: electric starters --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." The 1941 Piper Coupe came completely equipped with muffler, clock, wind-driven generator AND a mechanical self starter. Let me describe this wonder. The power driving the starter is secured from a shock cord extending the length of the fuselage to the rudder post. A wire connects the forward end of the shock cord with the gear mechanism attached to the crankshaft. By means of a handle in the cockpit end of this mechanism, the wire is wound up by the pilot on a drum by some 20 to 30 turns. When this is released, by pushing the hub of the crank handle forward, the shock cord pulls the wire, unwinding it from the drum, and turns the engine over twice, more than was possible by manual propping. This little gem weighed less than 10 pounds. Piper surely stole this idea from all those little rubber band balsa wood models we used to make. If only they had gone on to really perfect this scheme we could have had the answer to high fuel costs. My slide rule (yes, there was a thing called a slide rule) about caught afire in trying to compute the length, number of strands, and number of turns needed to get a 2500 pound plane off the sod. First approximations yield a bungee cord about 4 in diameter and 20 long, taking two weeks to wind. This will get you to maybe 500, more if you get all three pax to wind while in flight. Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy new story for August pee ess What ever became of the man-rated rubberband-powered plane being developed at VNY? do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:42 PM PST US From: "Frank Reynen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SP/LSA and amphibs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Reynen" Robert When I got my Experimental N-number registration and inspection prior to the 30 hr testflight stage as an amphib in 1991, the FAA inspector had checked my ratings and carried a print out to make sure that I had both the Land and Sea ratings before cutting me loose.So don't be to sure about this. Frank Reynen ---- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SP/LSA and amphibs > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird > > At 08:39 PM 8/6/2004, you wrote: > >By the way, I still am not sure if you need a seaplane rating on an > >experimental if you build it yourself. Does anyone know the answer to that > >one? > > The FAR says it's not required, but there is a LITTLE KNOWN "Advisory > Circular" that came out some years ago that says it *IS* required. Chances > are pretty good your local FAA guy doesn't know about the AC... so, quote > the FAR and you might be okay! ;-) > > -- Robert > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:43 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Woody Well done! Keep us posted on your progress with the Jabi. Jim Ballenger Flying a FS KXP 447 Building a MK III X Virginia Beach, VA DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "woody" Subject: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > > Finally after a couple years I am back flying the Thunderbird (modified > Mk 111). I did the last of the small details today and ran out of excuses > not to fly. I adjusted the idle a bit and cursed the guy (and questioned the > marital status of his parents) who designed the location of the idle adjust > screw. A couple taxis down my strip showed everything running as it should > with a little variation in the cht. Takeoff was uneventfull with me holding > back a bit and climbing out at 600 fpm at 50 mph. I did not try for a full > speed run yet as in my excitement I forgot to check what the operating > numbers were for the engine. I found at 1800 rpm I could maintain 50/55 > mph easily. However my cht readings were 100* apart. I flew around trying > different speeds and directions to see if I could alter the situation. I > could but not enough. Then I noticed the tach was reading lower than I had > set it. Then it went to zero then it went back to normal then zero and so on > for the remaining few minutes of flight. Landing was uneventfull. Reviewing > the situation I made jumper cables so I could swap my cht gauges at the > wiring harness. A few runs up and down the runway confirmed the sensors are > at fault. Any ideas to find out which one is right? > All flight numbers taken from standard gauges not vented to a static > port. Engine numbers from an EIS unit. > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:24 PM PST US From: Robert Laird Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SP/LSA and amphibs --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird At 04:47 PM 8/8/2004, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank Reynen" > >Robert >When I got my Experimental N-number registration and inspection prior to the >30 hr testflight stage as an amphib in 1991, > the FAA inspector had checked my ratings and carried a print out to make >sure that I had both >the Land and Sea ratings before cutting me loose.So don't be to sure about >this. That's why I said "might" ... With the FAA, as with the IRS, you can never be sure of anything, but you can usually be sure they'll "stick it to ya" if given half a chance. -- R ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:13:43 PM PST US From: "Jimmy" Subject: Kolb-List: kolb aircraft --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jimmy" John Parker, in Chattanooga Tenn. your phone number did not work, call me. This is about the kolb for sale. Do Not Archive. Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Rocky Ford, Ga. 30455 jhankin@planters.net Kolb Firefly/447/240hrs Local field, Pegasus/2000/Grass Airport JYL/Sylvania, Ga. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:21 PM PST US From: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Wing Folding SlingShot --> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> I stumbled upon an easy way to fold the SS wings, with no help. You use a telescoping tent pole modified so the top tip will fit into the tube that hangs down out of the bottom of the wing, the one that is used to hold the wing during transport. ---------------------- Hi Richard. I used to use a modified saw horse, but it would have been a lot harder to take with you in the plane :-) BTW, you're probably going to have to re-cover the plane due to old age before you get that Geo running :-) Cheers, Rusty (may just finish the Airbike) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:06 PM PST US From: al bumhoffer Subject: Kolb-List: Rudder stop --> Kolb-List message posted by: al bumhoffer I have my tail finished (1995 kit)except for the rudder stop. I believe the one that came with the kit rivits to the vert. stab. post and has a two inch pc. of 1/4 inch tubing sticking out on each side. I can't find anything in the plans that says or shows a rudder stop so I'm assuming that is what it is for. Does anyone have this on their Firestar? Was this an add on and not used on the first Firestars? Any photos of this or something better? Al Bumhoffer, Firestar II, Remounting finished wings Elkton, MI Do Not Archive __________________________________ http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:58 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Electric Fue Pump Question --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" Kolbers, Anyone know of an electric high pressure fuel pump that does not require a return fuel line? Typically that is how they cool themselves. I thought maybe there's one that starts & stops on demand. The reason I am asking is that I want to install a fuel monitoring gauge but they require an extra flow sensor for the return fuel flow & that adds $300 to the cost. Thanks, Richard Swiderski ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:13 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rudder stop --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Al, there's one like that on the mkIII. One side of mine had been cut too short and the FAA insp. caught it, it rubbed on the elevator. The easy fix is to push a piece of vinyl tubing over the stub and cut to the desired length. -nice cushion effect too. -BB do not archive On 8, Aug 2004, at 10:17 PM, al bumhoffer wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: al bumhoffer > > I have my tail finished (1995 kit)except for the > rudder stop. I believe the one that came with the kit > rivits to the vert. stab. post and has a two inch pc. > of 1/4 inch tubing sticking out on each side. I can't > find anything in the plans that says or shows a rudder > stop so I'm assuming that is what it is for. Does > anyone have this on their Firestar? Was this an add > on and not used on the first Firestars? Any photos of > this or something better? > > Al Bumhoffer, Firestar II, Remounting finished wings > Elkton, MI > > Do Not Archive > > > __________________________________ > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:02 PM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Jabi flies!!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" That would be okay but will be a pain in the butt trying to keep it wired to the EIS. Went flying again and I determined one sender is reading low. I had to have more than 100* on the cht. I checked and tightened all the EIS wires but still have the tach dying on me. I also can't get more than 2300 RPM reading on the tach on full power take off.. Should be 3300. I also climbed out at 900 fpm Still not pushing it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Swiderski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" > > Woody, > > Stick each one in a small can of boiling water. They should then > read 212 degrees F, assuming you are at sea level. ...Richard > Swiderski > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woody > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > .....I made jumper cables so I could swap my cht gauges at the > wiring harness. A few runs up and down the runway confirmed the sensors are > at fault. Any ideas to find out which one is right? > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:02 PM PST US From: "James and Cathy Tripp" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fort Nelson, BC --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" John, Good to hear things are going as well as they are. Sounds like you've had yet another adventure of a life time that you'll be telling stories about for the rest of your life. I'm looking forward to seeing you get back home. BTW John and the rest of the list, I took my FS to the airport Friday and did some taxi test. I can't believe how well behaved this thing taxies (at least on grass). I did some high speed taxi test also (up to 40 mph). I must have gone up and down the runway 30 times, logged an hour of non-flight flight time before it got dark and I had to quit. The tail comes up right around 20 to 25 mph and then I was able to hold it up the length of the runway as I increased speed. It handled very well at whatever speed I choose to use. I went back Saturday morning to do the first flight but the wind was blowing at 10 mph at a direct cross wind so I just went home. I plan to try it again Monday. James Tripp, FSII, N680JT DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kolb-List: Fort Nelson, BC > --> Kolb-List message posted by: jhauck@elmore.rr.com > > ------------------------------------------------ > Search the web by email! mailto:www@web2mail.com > adding your search to the subject line like this: > search summer vacations > ------------------------------------------------ > > > Morning All: > > Sitting here in Fort Nelson, British Columbia, twitling my thumbs. Arrived here last night. Got fuel and lucked out to be the first to arrive, so..........I got the "crash pad" (free bed and bath). Only one available. Last time I came through here I missed it and slept on an old couch. > > Take care, > > john h > Fort Nelson, BC > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:36 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb CHT probes - try putting them in boiling water (212 degrees F). jerb At 02:28 PM 8/8/04 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > > Finally after a couple years I am back flying the Thunderbird (modified >Mk 111). I did the last of the small details today and ran out of excuses >not to fly. I adjusted the idle a bit and cursed the guy (and questioned the >marital status of his parents) who designed the location of the idle adjust >screw. A couple taxis down my strip showed everything running as it should >with a little variation in the cht. Takeoff was uneventfull with me holding >back a bit and climbing out at 600 fpm at 50 mph. I did not try for a full >speed run yet as in my excitement I forgot to check what the operating >numbers were for the engine. I found at 1800 rpm I could maintain 50/55 >mph easily. However my cht readings were 100* apart. I flew around trying >different speeds and directions to see if I could alter the situation. I >could but not enough. Then I noticed the tach was reading lower than I had >set it. Then it went to zero then it went back to normal then zero and so on >for the remaining few minutes of flight. Landing was uneventfull. Reviewing >the situation I made jumper cables so I could swap my cht gauges at the >wiring harness. A few runs up and down the runway confirmed the sensors are >at fault. Any ideas to find out which one is right? > All flight numbers taken from standard gauges not vented to a static >port. Engine numbers from an EIS unit. > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:55 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: The Jabi flies!!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb Ouch, you didn't check your RPM at full power before doing a first flight. If it is as low as you have indicated, you may have just lucked out to make it around the field - same to make sure you wouldn't have over revved the engine just to make it around the field. Do you have an EIS that matching the "type" of engine your running and type and number of pulses it produces per revolution. Assuming you have one that will work for the Jabiru, you may need to set the number of pulses per revolution in the setup screen for it to read properly. jerb At 11:29 PM 8/8/04 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > >That would be okay but will be a pain in the butt trying to keep it wired to >the EIS. Went flying again and I determined one sender is reading low. I had >to have more than 100* on the cht. I checked and tightened all the EIS wires >but still have the tach dying on me. I also can't get more than 2300 RPM >reading on the tach on full power take off.. Should be 3300. I also climbed >out at 900 fpm Still not pushing it. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard Swiderski" >To: >Subject: RE: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" > > > > Woody, > > > > Stick each one in a small can of boiling water. They should then > > read 212 degrees F, assuming you are at sea level. >...Richard > > Swiderski > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woody > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Kolb-List: The Jabi flyies!!!! > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" > > .....I made jumper cables so I could swap my cht gauges at the > > wiring harness. A few runs up and down the runway confirmed the sensors >are > > at fault. Any ideas to find out which one is right? > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:03 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Thermocouples From: herbgh@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Kolbers Looks like we use type K thermocouples in our EGTS? The two bayonet types that I have on hand use a red and a yellow wire. The chart on the following web page indicates this to be a K type. Herb, taking a break from the firefly today. http://instserv.com/orphn/rmocoupl.htm do not archive