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1. 05:31 AM - Re: "New" Firefly for sale (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
2. 05:41 AM - Fw: FireFly Status - Manatee Airport (Beauford)
3. 09:55 AM - Re: Firefly on Floats (Bruce McElhoe)
4. 09:55 AM - Re: nice flight (Giovanni Day)
5. 10:44 AM - intro test (PATRICK LADD)
6. 10:52 AM - Re: intro test (wiserguy)
7. 10:52 AM - Re: intro test (Beauford)
8. 11:00 AM - Re: intro test (John Hauck)
9. 11:01 AM - Re: intro test (Larry Cottrell)
10. 11:08 AM - Re: intro test (Bob N.)
11. 01:26 PM - Re: intro test (John Cooley)
12. 02:58 PM - Re: Firefly on Floats (N27SB@aol.com)
13. 06:06 PM - Inspections and Hello's (Michael Sharp)
14. 06:23 PM - Re: Inspections and Hello's (Beauford)
15. 06:30 PM - Re: Inspections and Hello's (KolbDriver)
16. 06:35 PM - Re: Inspections and Hello's (robert bean)
17. 06:48 PM - Re: intro test (bryan green)
18. 08:04 PM - Re: intro test (Don Gherardini)
19. 09:40 PM - Kolbra speed, Jabiru price (RD)
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| Subject: | Re: "New" Firefly for sale |
message of Sat, 7 Aug 2004 23:56:34 -0700
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
Hey guys, you may want to recontact Ms. Hebb if anyone is
interested in her husband's Firefly. It needs some elbow grease
cosmetically and maybe a coat of Cermachrome on the exhaust but don't
forget, it's never been flown and has a 447.
Contact her via the list.... I can forward messages and numbers.
Make her an offer....need I say more.
ps...Mr. Alexander, pat the FSII on the nose for me, willya my friend?
Hope all is well in Joisey.
Mike in WV
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| Subject: | FireFly Status - Manatee Airport |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Sorry, Kolbers...
That should have gone to Ed only... and needed a "do not archive" on it if
it was headed for the list... not enough sleep...
B.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Status - Manatee Airport
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Thanks, Ed... Looks like there might be another one on the way... Mebbe
> the Mexicans will take it...
> Sure is fun...
> Regards,
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DAquaNut@aol.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly Status - Manatee Airport
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 8/14/04 10:32:11 AM Central Standard Time,
> > beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes:
> >
> > <<
> > Many thanks to those of you who sent notes of concern...
> > Regards,
> > Beauford
> > FF 076
> > Brandon, FL
> > >>
> > Beauford,
> >
> > I was not vocal but we said a prayer for you. Glad to here you
fared
> so
> > well. We know about hurricanes here in texas too. Aint no picnic.
> >
> > Ed Diebel
> >
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:Firefly on Floats |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Bruce McElhoe <mcelhoe@cvip.net>
Steve,
I'd like to hear about your progress with developing a float. I have a
legal Firefly, and would like to keep it legal...with the added virtue of a
float.
I have too many projects now to take that project on myself. Though I have
given it some thought and am experienced with fiberglass. I, too, think it
could be done within 60 lbs with careful workmanship.
Please let me know how you are doing.
Regards,
Bruce McElhoe FireFly #88
Reedley, California
>
> I have had several request for a straight float (no wheels) configuration
for
> a Firefly that is still within part 103 weight limitations. The FAA only
> allows a total of 60 lbs for this addition. I have done the preliminary
> calculations and I believe that it can be done. I have already started on
this project
> so if anyone has any interest Or ideas I would be happy to hear them.
>
> Steve Bote
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Dan,
Yea I like the farm lands also. Here the fields are big enough to turn
around in but are surrounded by trees. I like to fly low and "pop" over
the trees just high enough to clear them. I try to get myself lost as if
in a maze. Once or twice I had to get a little altitude to figure out
where I was. Fly for fun.
Giovanni
MKIII/912 80566
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Charter
Subject: Kolb-List: nice flight
"The Zim area is allot of fun for us. It's all flat farm land with a few
trees." Do Not Archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi all.
I have been trying to post to this list without success for a couple of weeks.
If I make it will some one please say `Hello` to a prospective Kolb xtra owner
in the UK.
Cheers
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "wiserguy" <wiserguy@comcast.net>
Pat,
Welcome aboard, your on the list!
Bob Dalton
Manteca, CA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: intro test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
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> Hi all.
> I have been trying to post to this list without success for a couple of
weeks.
> If I make it will some one please say `Hello` to a prospective Kolb xtra
owner in the UK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
> pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
>
> ---
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>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Hello right back atcha, Patrick Ladd...!
Looks like you finally made it...!
Welcome to the Kolber's hangout.... we're happy to have your company...
Regards from "near miss" Tampa Bay Florida....
Beauford
FireFly # 076
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: intro test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Hi all.
> I have been trying to post to this list without success for a couple of
weeks.
> If I make it will some one please say `Hello` to a prospective Kolb xtra
owner in the UK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
> pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
>
> ---
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
xtra owner in the UK.
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| Cheers
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| Pat
Hi Pat/Gang:
Welcome to the Kolb List.
You have successfully made the journey across the pond.
Tell us something about yourself.
I fly an old Mark III my Brother Jim and I built back in 1991. Flew
for the first time March 1992. The airframe now has 2,238.9 hours.
It is powered by a Rotax 912ULS that was installed new in the Spring
of 2000. As of the last flight it now has 893.0 hours.
I have been building, flying, breaking, rebuilding, and cross
country'ing Kolb airplanes for the last 20 years. Built and broke all
three of them at least once, and some more than once: 1984 Ultrastar,
1987 Firestar, and a 1992 Mark III.
Kolbs are all I fly and all I have a desire to fly, unless something
comes along to replace my old Mark III. So far, I am happy tooting
around in my well worn Kolb.
Again, welcome aboard. There is a wealth of info on the List and in
the Archives. All you have to do is ask.
Take care,
john h
Titus, Alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
Hi!
You are here.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: intro test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Hi all.
> I have been trying to post to this list without success for a couple of
weeks.
> If I make it will some one please say `Hello` to a prospective Kolb xtra
owner in the UK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
> pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
>
> ---
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Welcome, PJ,
You must be getting through, as evidenced by this reply. C'mon
over...we're a (mostly) friendly bunch.
regards,
Bob N. FF 070
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Hello,
Welcome to the best builders list on the net.
Later,
John Cooley
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of PATRICK LADD
Subject: Kolb-List: intro test
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi all.
I have been trying to post to this list without success for a couple of
weeks.
If I make it will some one please say `Hello` to a prospective Kolb xtra
owner in the UK.
Cheers
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:Firefly on Floats |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
I am sure that we have a nice solution, but we have to build a firefly from
scratch as the test bed. I may try to find one and start from there, but it has
to be a factory Quick build.
I will post progress as we go. If anyone knows of a quickbuild let me know.
When complete we will have a bolt on tested solution with factory parts
steve boetto
cuttin trees and fillin generators
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| Subject: | Inspections and Hello's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Michael Sharp" <kolbdriver@mfire.com>
Hello gang,
I'm not a "new" member exactly, but I've been dormant for a few years.
I see that most of the guys I remember seem to still be here. Hey Lar. we
were at about the same stage in our Mark III's.. It seems from the latest
posts that we still are.. ;-)
I've survived 2 divorce's 4 moves and 3 jobs since I started the project,
"DaBull". and it is the only thing still with me.. LOL Some of ya'll
remember that I lost my dad to cancer during the build after he had helped
me a great deal.
I'm getting real close to final inspection and would like to see if there
are any Houston Mark III drivers out there that I can come visit and see
your bird and talk about inspections.
It feels good to be back with the group.
Mike Sharp
Kolb Mark III Classic (one of the last from "Old Kolb")
Rosharon Texas
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| Subject: | Re: Inspections and Hello's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Welcome back, Mike...
I remember you being on the list... Glad to hear you are about to get down
to the wire with your bird...
Good luck with the inspection.
Beauford
Brandon, FL
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----- Original Message -----
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Michael Sharp" <kolbdriver@mfire.com>
>
> Hello gang,
>
>
> I'm not a "new" member exactly, but I've been dormant for a few years.
> It feels good to be back with the group.
> Mike Sharp
>
> Kolb Mark III Classic (one of the last from "Old Kolb")
> Rosharon Texas
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Inspections and Hello's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KolbDriver" <KolbDriver@bellsouth.net>
>
> Mike Sharp
>
> Kolb Mark III Classic (one of the last from "Old Kolb")
>
> Rosharon Texas
>
> Do not archive
>
Hey Mike,
What is the number stamped on the back of the root tube on your cage? It
sounds like our kits are about the same vintage. I recieved mine about 3
weeks before the old Kolb was sold.
BTW I like your e-mail address.
Steven Green
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Inspections and Hello's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Dabull and "daMoose" must be related. -Gray-haired virgins. :)
This morning I dropped in (still with 4 wheels) to my favorite
go-for-coffee
sunday morning strip in the boonies. Didn't expect to see much because
of the declining state of basic aviation here in upstate NY. I was
surprised
to see several planes, all taildraggers, one hughes 300. A beautiful
day
and some pleasant chatter. The only thing missing was I REALLY WISHED
I HAD THAT KOLB THERE! Ach, what a yearning. Tomorrow, weather
permitting, the wings are coming off for transport to my test area .
I've been patient til now, but as Popeye said, "I can't takes no more"
-BB, N3851E do not archive
On 15, Aug 2004, at 9:05 PM, Michael Sharp wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Michael Sharp" <kolbdriver@mfire.com>
>
> Hello gang,
>
>
> I'm not a "new" member exactly, but I've been dormant for a few years.
>
>
> I see that most of the guys I remember seem to still be here. Hey Lar.
> we
> were at about the same stage in our Mark III's.. It seems from the
> latest
> posts that we still are.. ;-)
>
>
> I've survived 2 divorce's 4 moves and 3 jobs since I started the
> project,
> "DaBull". and it is the only thing still with me.. LOL Some of ya'll
> remember that I lost my dad to cancer during the build after he had
> helped
> me a great deal.
>
>
> I'm getting real close to final inspection and would like to see if
> there
> are any Houston Mark III drivers out there that I can come visit and
> see
> your bird and talk about inspections.
>
>
> It feels good to be back with the group.
>
>
> Mike Sharp
>
> Kolb Mark III Classic (one of the last from "Old Kolb")
>
> Rosharon Texas
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Hello Pat looks like you got through at last welcome to the list. Do not
archive
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: intro test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Hi all.
> I have been trying to post to this list without success for a couple of
weeks.
> If I make it will some one please say `Hello` to a prospective Kolb xtra
owner in the UK.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
> pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
>
> ---
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Welcome Patrick.....
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Kolbra speed, Jabiru price |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Greetings,
I'm still shopping for a next project, and have a couple Kolbra questions.
What cruise speed do you realistically get with a Kolbra, using an 80 hp
engine? The TNK site lists the cruise at 85 mph, but that seems kinda low
for that much power. They also list only 1100 fpm climb solo with the
Jabiru. That seems low as well.
Also, what's the real cost of a Jabiru 2200 (80 HP)? I've seen them for
about $10K, but wonder what else is needed. For example, the HKS "only"
costs about $6500, but you end up adding $1500-$2000 to get the rest of the
stuff that goes with it (exhaust, oil tanks, cooler, etc).
Thanks,
Rusty (leaning toward another SS)
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