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1. 06:36 AM - Re: Fly cutter for the Instrument panel hole (Timandjan@aol.com)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 08/17/04 (PaulServaty@aol.com)
3. 06:54 AM - Re: Firefly Washers (GeoR38@aol.com)
4. 07:22 AM - Test ASCII characters (WillUribe@aol.com)
5. 07:48 AM - Re: Firefly Washers (Larry Bourne)
6. 07:52 AM - Re: Test ASCII characters (Larry Bourne)
7. 07:56 AM - Re: Sheet Metal Leading Edge (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
8. 10:13 AM - Re: Sheet Metal Leading Edge (George E. Thompson)
9. 10:38 AM - Re: Test ASCII characters (WillUribe@aol.com)
10. 01:13 PM - 2004 FS II First flights (Bruce Harrison)
11. 07:07 PM - Re: 2004 FS II First flights (bryan green)
12. 07:42 PM - Gearbox Leak (James and Cathy Tripp)
13. 08:01 PM - Re: Gearbox Leak (ul15rhb@juno.com)
14. 09:17 PM - Re: Gearbox Leak (HShack@aol.com)
15. 09:19 PM - Re: Gearbox Leak (Jon Croke)
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| Subject: | Re: Fly cutter for the Instrument panel hole |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
In a message dated 8/18/04 1:32:09 AM, WillUribe@aol.com writes:
> http://members.aol.com/willuribe/flycutter.jpg
>
I used the same cutter on mine, works fine, just go slow. I used it to cut
almost all the way through and then finished it off with a file as to not chip
out the other side.
Tim
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 08/17/04 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: PaulServaty@aol.com
Time:0930 EST 8/18/04
Fm:PaulServaty@aol.com
To:Bill Varnes
Subj: Wing drag strut &loose end fittings
Fellow Kolbers
I also had 1 wing drag strut fitting loose on my 1987 FS KX . Installed
3" insp. ring cover at bottom rear corner to remedy. I used hardware store
2" wide adhesive backed aluminum tape to wrap around fitting. It about .0025
inch thick - 400 hours since fix. also used it to shim slightly loose
tailwheel alum. dowel into fuselage.
Another subject: Look up _www.aero-sports.com/bb_
(http://www.aero-sports.com/bb) "news" "custom u/l scale models" for a model you can get of your
Kolb. The detail on mine is awesome. Expect a 2 to 4 month building and
shipping as Liberty Ships travel slower tahn Kolbs
Fly Safe
Paul "OUTLAW" Servaty
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly Washers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 8/18/2004 12:36:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
biglar@gogittum.com writes:
Hmmmm...............can't sneak that html in there nohow. On the word
"manana," I used a character map "n" with a tilde over it for the spanish
"ny" sound. Didn't work. Oh well. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
it is necessary ot use the number keypad on the right of your keyboard to
access the spanish symbols....according to Will Uribe
George
Randolph
firestar driver from the villages fl
trailer gettin close up here in Ohio
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| Subject: | Test ASCII characters |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
In a message dated 8/18/2004 12:58:01 AM Mountain Standard Time,
kolb-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Hmmmm...............can't sneak that html in there nohow. On the word
"manana," I used a character map "n" with a tilde over it for the spanish
"ny" sound. Didn't work. Oh well. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
=BFMa=F1ana is blocked by the list?
Let me send some test ASCII characters.
=E1
=E9
=ED
=F3
=FA
=F1
=D1
=BD
=BD
=C9
It is 68=BAF right now in El Paso, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly Washers |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I did that - it's a shortcut to character map symbols. The symbol I wanted
is at: Alt 0241, but it was deleted at matronics. No html allowed. Not a
big deal. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <GeoR38@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly Washers
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/18/2004 12:36:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> biglar@gogittum.com writes:
>
> Hmmmm...............can't sneak that html in there nohow. On the word
> "manana," I used a character map "n" with a tilde over it for the spanish
> "ny" sound. Didn't work. Oh well. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
> it is necessary ot use the number keypad on the right of your keyboard to
> access the spanish symbols....according to Will Uribe
>
> George
> Randolph
>
> firestar driver from the villages fl
> trailer gettin close up here in Ohio
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Test ASCII characters |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
68=BAF ?? Nawwww..............it was 68 Alt 0176. We yoost can't get away
with it, Will. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <WillUribe@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Test ASCII characters
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/18/2004 12:58:01 AM Mountain Standard Time,
> kolb-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Hmmmm...............can't sneak that html in there nohow. On the word
> "manana," I used a character map "n" with a tilde over it for the spanish
> "ny" sound. Didn't work. Oh well. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
> =BFMa=F1ana is blocked by the list?
> Let me send some test ASCII characters.
> =E1
> =E9
> =ED
> =F3
> =FA
> =F1
> =D1
> =BD
> =BD
> =C9
> It is 68=BAF right now in El Paso, TX
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sheet Metal Leading Edge |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Mine has the sheet metal leading edge. I never had it before the sheet
metal so I have nothing to compare it with. Personally tho, I kind of like
the "scallop" effect without the sheet metal - that's how it was on the
Firestar and it looked cool. Also, Lar is right, it does dent easy and
there is no way I know of to get the dent out. I've got a beauty and a
couple of smaller dings.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sheet Metal Leading Edge
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> When I started Vamoose, lo these many years ago, I wanted to use the
> aluminum under the fabric on the leading edges. Many people, including,
as
> I recall, Dennis Souder recommended against it - so I didn't do it. They
> all said there's no real benefit, and it changed the stall characteristics
> negatively. It also dents easily, and is difficult to repair. Maybe the
> idea's come full circle now, and they've decided there really is a
> benefit.................?? Greater minds than mine are out there in Kolb
> Land. Whadda you guys think ?? Lar.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Sheet Metal Leading Edge
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> >
> > Is this a factory option now? The feeling in the past was that the sheet
> > aluminum leading edge was only a cosmetic change to the wing. Seems like
I
> > have heard that there is no extra lift or reduced drag only increased
> > weight. What do the rest of you think?
> >
> > This was a post to the whole Kolb group and the "Do Not Archive" is only
> for
> > posts that don't need to be saved and this is ok to have saved. Personal
> > E-mails are ones that should have the DNA.
> >
> > Rick Neilsen
> > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: intro test
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
<pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> > >
> > > Are you buyinf a classic or an extra? >>
> > >
> > > Hi Woody,
> > >
> > > I have ordered an Xtra.
> > > Mine will have a new airofoil in that there is a metal sheet from the
> > > leading edge (I dont know its width) under the fabric which will
smooth
> > out
> > > the scalloped effect between the ribs. This should straighten out the
> > > airflow, and hopefully increase the lift a bit.
> > > Is this what yours has?
> > > I am pretty used to a bootful of rudder to get the Challenger going
> round
> > > but the roll force needed on the Xtra surprised me.
> > > There is a bungee mod for the Challenger to take out the need for
right
> > boot
> > > to fly straight, but I have never bothered with it so maybe I shall
just
> > > accept the tendency for the Xtra to do the same.
> > > Have you got to the point of establishing cruise speed and consumption
> > yet?
> > >
> > > Incidentally I assume that we do not need to put `Do not archive` on
off
> > > list posts like this or are all posts routed throught the list?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Pat
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sheet Metal Leading Edge |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
I put it on my Firestar II and used roof valley flashing. I cant remember
how thick it was, but find it hard to believe it was over six lbs. I believe
I would use it again because it smoothed out the leading edge and added
strength to the wing (even if it did not need it). Unable to tell if it
changed the stall speed or top.
For what it's worth
Az. Bald Eagle
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sheet Metal Leading Edge
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
<pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> Mine has the sheet metal leading edge. I never had it before the sheet
> metal so I have nothing to compare it with. Personally tho, I kind of
like
> the "scallop" effect without the sheet metal - that's how it was on the
> Firestar and it looked cool. Also, Lar is right, it does dent easy and
> there is no way I know of to get the dent out. I've got a beauty and a
> couple of smaller dings.
>
> AzDave
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sheet Metal Leading Edge
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> >
> > When I started Vamoose, lo these many years ago, I wanted to use the
> > aluminum under the fabric on the leading edges. Many people, including,
> as
> > I recall, Dennis Souder recommended against it - so I didn't do it.
They
> > all said there's no real benefit, and it changed the stall
characteristics
> > negatively. It also dents easily, and is difficult to repair. Maybe
the
> > idea's come full circle now, and they've decided there really is a
> > benefit.................?? Greater minds than mine are out there in
Kolb
> > Land. Whadda you guys think ?? Lar.
> >
> > Larry Bourne
> > Palm Springs, CA
> > Building Kolb Mk III
> > N78LB Vamoose
> > www.gogittum.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Sheet Metal Leading Edge
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
> > <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > Is this a factory option now? The feeling in the past was that the
sheet
> > > aluminum leading edge was only a cosmetic change to the wing. Seems
like
> I
> > > have heard that there is no extra lift or reduced drag only increased
> > > weight. What do the rest of you think?
> > >
> > > This was a post to the whole Kolb group and the "Do Not Archive" is
only
> > for
> > > posts that don't need to be saved and this is ok to have saved.
Personal
> > > E-mails are ones that should have the DNA.
> > >
> > > Rick Neilsen
> > > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> > > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: intro test
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> > > >
> > > > Are you buyinf a classic or an extra? >>
> > > >
> > > > Hi Woody,
> > > >
> > > > I have ordered an Xtra.
> > > > Mine will have a new airofoil in that there is a metal sheet from
the
> > > > leading edge (I dont know its width) under the fabric which will
> smooth
> > > out
> > > > the scalloped effect between the ribs. This should straighten out
the
> > > > airflow, and hopefully increase the lift a bit.
> > > > Is this what yours has?
> > > > I am pretty used to a bootful of rudder to get the Challenger going
> > round
> > > > but the roll force needed on the Xtra surprised me.
> > > > There is a bungee mod for the Challenger to take out the need for
> right
> > > boot
> > > > to fly straight, but I have never bothered with it so maybe I shall
> just
> > > > accept the tendency for the Xtra to do the same.
> > > > Have you got to the point of establishing cruise speed and
consumption
> > > yet?
> > > >
> > > > Incidentally I assume that we do not need to put `Do not archive` on
> off
> > > > list posts like this or are all posts routed throught the list?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Pat
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Test ASCII characters |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Larry, your right the accents and ~ or other ASCII characters don't work on
this list ;-(
I meant to type 68 degrees Fahrenheit but the little o didn't show up. Maybe
Matt can fix is minor glitch
Its 76 (hold the alt key while typing 167 on your number pad) Fahrenhiet
right now in El Paso, TX
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bourne
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test ASCII characters
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
68=BAF ?? Nawwww..............it was 68 Alt 0176. We yoost can't get away
with it, Will. Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <WillUribe@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Test ASCII characters
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/18/2004 12:58:01 AM Mountain Standard Time,
> kolb-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Hmmmm...............can't sneak that html in there nohow. On the word
> "manana," I used a character map "n" with a tilde over it for the spanish
> "ny" sound. Didn't work. Oh well. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
> =BFMa=F1ana is blocked by the list?
> Let me send some test ASCII characters.
> =E1
> =E9
> =ED
> =F3
> =FA
> =F1
> =D1
> =BD
> =BD
> =C9
> It is 68=BAF right now in El Paso, TX
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| Subject: | 2004 FS II First flights |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
Just wanted to add to the list of first flights this fall. Over the past few
Saturdays I have been crow-hopping and finally flight testing my new FSII.
I have a 503 SCDCDI and 66" two-blade IvoProp. So far with about 1.5 hours
of time on the new airframe I am happy with performance, but I'm still
sorting out the trim. It wants to climb in pitch and has a slight tendency
to wander to the right. I will be working on that stuff.
Due to shipping delays/Oshkosh, I did not receive the nose cone in a timely
fashion. So I went ahead and rigged up a temporary instrument panel so I
could have my engine instruments and airspeed indicator. It worked very
well. Now I have the cone and will be taking time out from flying to finish
the nose and install a windscreen. In case you ever wondered, it flies fine
without the cone or lexan. Also I have no gap seal installed at the moment.
Can anyone suggest where I can get the book-binding tape to seal the aileron
gaps? I guess I need about 12 feet of the two sizes of tape.
pics at this link:
http://www.scttf.org/New/members/BruceHarrison.htm
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| Subject: | Re: 2004 FS II First flights |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: 2004 FS II First flights
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrison" <firestarii@hotmail.com>
>
> Just wanted to add to the list of first flights this fall. Over the past
few
Thanks for the post and pics Bruce.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Hello Listers,
Have any of you who have a "B" gearbox had problems with leaking oil? Mine is leaking
from somewhere but I can't really tell where. After flying, there's a small
puddle of mostly clear oil on the right rear motor mount that appears to
be coming from somewhere on the gearbox. It's not much but enough to puddle about
the size of a half dollar. When I remove the lower plug to check the oil level,
I'm still getting oil to come out of the plug opening. The engine and gearbox
are new with 10 hours of run time. I don't think it is coming from the crankcase
because of the clear color and my CHTs and EGTs are within limits. Any
ideas?
James Tripp, FSII, 40 Hour Test Phase
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Leak |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
James,
It's coming out of the drain plug. Mine did the same thing for a long
time. It quit when I torqued the drain plug probably more than I should
have. Be careful of the aluminum threads in the gearbox. Torque too hard
and you will be buying a new gearbox. You might try some gasket sealer on
the plug.
Ralph
Original Firestar
17 years flying it
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 21:42:12 -0500 "James and Cathy Tripp"
<jtripp@elmore.rr.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp"
> <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hello Listers,
> Have any of you who have a "B" gearbox had problems with leaking
> oil? Mine is leaking from somewhere but I can't really tell where.
> After flying, there's a small puddle of mostly clear oil on the
> right rear motor mount that appears to be coming from somewhere on
> the gearbox. It's not much but enough to puddle about the size of a
> half dollar. When I remove the lower plug to check the oil level,
> I'm still getting oil to come out of the plug opening. The engine
> and gearbox are new with 10 hours of run time. I don't think it is
> coming from the crankcase because of the clear color and my CHTs and
> EGTs are within limits. Any ideas?
>
> James Tripp, FSII, 40 Hour Test Phase
>
>
>
=
>
=
>
=
>
=
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Leak |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 8/18/2004 10:42:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jtripp@elmore.rr.com writes:
The engine and gearbox are new with 10 hours of run time. I don't think it is
coming from the crankcase because of the clear color and my CHTs and EGTs are
within limits. Any ideas?
Maybe it's coming from the carb's air cleaner[s].......
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox Leak |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
and another possibility... there should be a thin aluminum washer under
that drain bolt... they commonly fall off undetected when changing oil... if
missing, then ...... there you go!
Jon
> James,
>
> It's coming out of the drain plug. Mine did the same thing for a long
> time. It quit when I torqued the drain plug probably more than I should
> have. Be careful of the aluminum threads in the gearbox. Torque too hard
> and you will be buying a new gearbox. You might try some gasket sealer on
> the plug.
>
> Ralph
> Original Firestar
> 17 years flying it
>
>
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 21:42:12 -0500 "James and Cathy Tripp"
> <jtripp@elmore.rr.com> writes:
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp"
> > <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
> >
> > Hello Listers,
> > Have any of you who have a "B" gearbox had problems with leaking
> > oil? Mine is leaking from somewhere but I can't really tell where.
> > After flying, there's a small puddle of mostly clear oil on the
> > right rear motor mount that appears to be coming from somewhere on
> > the gearbox. It's not much but enough to puddle about the size of a
> > half dollar. When I remove the lower plug to check the oil level,
> > I'm still getting oil to come out of the plug opening. The engine
> > and gearbox are new with 10 hours of run time. I don't think it is
> > coming from the crankcase because of the clear color and my CHTs and
> > EGTs are within limits. Any ideas?
> >
> > James Tripp, FSII, 40 Hour Test Phase
> >
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