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1. 12:03 AM - Re: Hurricane Charley Guilt Report (Duncan McBride)
2. 05:13 AM - Re: Progress (Kirk Smith)
3. 06:10 AM - Slingshot with 912S (Bill Woods)
4. 07:22 AM - Sling Shot (Paul Petty)
5. 07:30 AM - Re: Slingshot with 912S (RD)
6. 07:30 AM - Re: Slingshot with 912S (possums)
7. 08:36 AM - Parts for sale (Ron or Mary Payne)
8. 08:44 AM - Ultra Star Owners Manual (ray anderson)
9. 09:55 AM - Re: Hurricane Charley Guilt Report (GeoR38@aol.com)
10. 10:12 AM - Re: Welcome back Rusty! (GeoR38@aol.com)
11. 10:14 AM - Re: Progress? (John Hauck)
12. 10:24 AM - Re: Jabbyroo (John Hauck)
13. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: Progress (John Hauck)
14. 02:43 PM - electric trim motor (Airgriff2@aol.com)
15. 03:08 PM - Re: Hurricane Charley Guilt Report (George Bass)
16. 05:17 PM - the perfect airplane (robert bean)
17. 06:23 PM - French Terror Threat Levels (Beauford)
18. 06:27 PM - Kolb-List Digest: (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
19. 07:16 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: (John Hauck)
20. 07:35 PM - Re: Slingshot with 912S (RD)
21. 07:54 PM - Re: Slingshot with 912S (Charlie England)
22. 08:36 PM - Re: , comparing engines (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
23. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: Progress (GeoR38@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Charley Guilt Report |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Duncan McBride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Funny thing, forty-four years ago I was living in Arcadia, about thirty
miles north of here, when hurricane Donna came through and tore the county
to pieces. We moved away and until now this area hasn't been hit again. I
figured my return to south Florida was finally noticed.
Yesterday I helped a guy a couple of hangars down move his Pietnpol out to
Sundance Farms to get it repaired. They're cleaning up with a vengeance out
at Charlotte County, and it's good to see whole airplanes tied down on the
flightline. Everybody figures it must have been a tornado or two that came
through the field.
Thanks for all the kind words, guys. Hope to be flying again soon.
Duncan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@isp.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Hurricane Charley Guilt Report
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderski" <swiderski@isp.com>
>
> Duncun,
>
>
> I have an admission of guilt to make. You see, this south Florida
> mess from Charley is all my fault.
> On the third hand, I was crying, because I knew deep down, it
> would take me three weeks to put all my junk back where it belongs & also
> rebuild my circus tent to deter the next Big One. Now you know guys.
>
>
> Richard Swiderski
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
"In 1946, some enterprising folks in Ohio marketed a modest little
> airplane called the Aeronca model 7AC which, on a mere 65 horsepower"
That sure brings back the memories!!! Was my first ride in an airplane. I was
9 years old and my Dad had traded a 1954 chevrolet stakerack truck for one.
In Chehalis, Washington at Davis Air Service. They flew those little planes
all over the place out on the coast and all by dead reckoning. I can still remember
some of the stories those old Bush pilots would tell of their flights .
I'd love to be able to go back there one more time.
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| Subject: | Slingshot with 912S |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Woods" <kolbpilot@msn.com>
Hi Rusty /all,
I don't talk much but still monitor the list occasionally and can't help but to
respond. I have a lot of friends on the list that know I built and flew a pretty
nice SS w/912S. I flew it more than 200 hrs. before I parted with it for something
more aerobatic. It was an awesome performer with more than 2000 fpm climb
on cool mornings. It would cruise at 100 mph at about 75% power. I wouldn't
try to talk you out of the 912S at all if it is in your budget. You won't be
sorry. The guy who owns it now loves it but with that being said, he wants to
sell it to purchase a Pitts. Seems everyone interested in a SS turns out to
be high-performance minded to go faster and play a little harder. Sounds like
you have already played hard and are ready to relax a little for now. I just completedan
extensive overhaul and restoration of my Decathlon and been flying
it again for about 2 weeks. Inverted maneuvers still make my blood bubble. Sorry
to be so long winded bu
t I haven't replied in a while. Thinking about bringing my Decathlon to the Kolb
flyin this year to visit friends. I don't know how much my old SS is priced
at but do know it only has around 220 hrs and still looks great. It won 2 outstanding
lightplane awards at S-N-F among some pretty impressive competition.
I could give him a call for pricing if you wish. I had over 35.000 invested so
you could save about 10 to 15k on a new one.You will have over 15k in a new 912S
with prop, exhaust and all accessories. For a few thousand more you could
get the SS with it.
Thanks,
Bill Woods
SS 912S N62BW
Decathlon N53737
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Bill/all
Your Sling shot is at my field now and Joe wants 22k for it I think. It is listed
on Barnstormers and a easy way for one to save about 15k and a couple of years!
That is a wonderful airplane and I admire it every time I see her.
2000 KOLB SLINGSHOT 912S =95 FOR SALE =95 This aircraft won Most Outstanding Aircraft
award at Sun-n-Fun in 2000 & 2001 and is absolutely the finest Slingshot
ever built. It is a Show Quality 2000 model 2 seat Slingshot with a Rotax 912S
100hp. 216TT on airframe and engine. Its list of accessories include: BRS Vertical
Launch Parachute, ELT, dual caliper hydraulic brakes, Warp Drive prop,
Titan Exhaust system, aircraft rated tires and wheels, Microair radio with 2
place intercom, vertical card compass, slip indicator, EIS System that includes
the following: tach, dual EGT,dual CHT, oil temp, water temp, oil pressure,
altimeter,vertical speed, fuel gauge, oat, time of flight, hourmeter. EIS system
is controlled on the control stick along with the radio. This aircraft is N-numbered,
has a current airworthiness certificate with next annual due 4-05.
=95 Contact Joe Cauthen - located Madison, MS USA =95 Telephone: 800-856-1499
=95 Posted June 12, 2004
FYI
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
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| Subject: | Slingshot with 912S |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Good to hear from you Bill. I really appreciate the information, and it
sounds like the 912S/SS is a great combo.
I'd be interested in your old plane, except that the silly rules won't allow
me to do the annual inspections on it, even though I had a repairman's
certificate for another SS. If he has any interest in parting it out, I'd
likely be interested in the engine, prop, etc.
For that matter, if anyone knows of a used 912S in good shape, let me know.
Cheers,
Rusty
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| Subject: | Re: Slingshot with 912S |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 09:10 AM 8/22/2004, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Woods" <kolbpilot@msn.com>
>
>
>Hi Rusty /all,
>
>
>I don't talk much but still monitor the list occasionally and can't help
>but to respond. I have a lot of friends on the list that know I built and
>flew a pretty nice SS w/912S. I flew it more than 200 hrs. before I parted
>with it for something more aerobatic. It was an awesome performer with
>more than 2000 fpm climb on cool mornings. It would cruise at 100 mph at
>about 75% power.
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/possums@mindspring.com.12.14.2001/index.html
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ron or Mary Payne" <whyme@vci.net>
I have the following items for sale. 503 DCDI electric start with less than 10
hours running time---3 blade IVO ground adjustable prop----BRS-VLS 750 lb model-----EIS
with hotbox-----full swivel tail wheel------Kuntzleman strobes------Artex
ELT-200series------FireStar cockpit cage with two 5 gallon fuel tanks,
nose cone and all controls. The FireStar is now in flying condition but the
EAA legal consul has advised against selling it as an aircraft due to liability
risks.
All items are in new condition with no damage. Located in West Kentucky. Anyone
interested contact me off list.
Ron Payne
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| Subject: | Ultra Star Owners Manual |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Any one know where I can get a new or used copy of the Ultra Star Owners Manual?
Please reply either on list or my e-mail --- rsanoa@yahoo.com Thanks.
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Charley Guilt Report |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 8/21/2004 9:13:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
swiderski@isp.com writes:
took a deep
breath, wiped my tears, & went to work. The amount of junk I have gathered
over the last five years has not been a linear growth. After stuffing my
shop, my garage & sheds with its content, I stripped her of those beloved
white tarps. Staring at her naked frame standing out against the darkened
storm clouds was a sickening feeling only exceeded by the sight of my last
remaining path in my shop being covered up with years of junk in only a few
hours. I collapsed again into my tv chair to see how bad we were going to
be hit. That's when I realized what I had done. Just as before, as soon as
I dismantled my magic circus tent, the storm took a turn. It was a
difficult moment to define. On one hand, I felt guilty for what I caused to
all those people in south Florida. One the other hand, I was relieved we
wouldn't loose our electricity & I could still watch Discovery Wings
tonight. On the third hand, I was crying, because I knew deep down, it
would take me three weeks to put all my junk back where it belongs & also
rebuild my circus tent to deter the next Big One. Now you know guys.
Richard Swiderski
SlingShot (waiting for its Sprint Turbo)
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I hear ya buddy as I sit here in Ohio holding a part I have epoxied in
anticipation of loading my Firestar on the trailer that my boy is working on right
now. I wondered how or why, Charilie missed The Villages so completely, and
now after your explanation I understand and Believe I know why.....thank you for
saving my house down there!! I just need another week I think and I will be
towing that puppy down on a new trailer, the likes of which you have never
seen....me neither. So far I have about $1k in in it and won't even have a cover
over it yet.Am definitely only going to shrink wrap it for the 1200 mile trip..
Hoping to limit cost to less than $1500....we will see if that works. Barb
goin to Mich now to visit daughter for a coupla days ...then start out for
Swiderski's Castle!!... Oh Boy! what a trip this is goin to be!
Keep up the stories, mebe we can give you a name like the grey pollok
.....er..... sumpin! You DO have a fertile imagination ya know...and the hand to
write it with.
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George Randolph
Firestar driver from.....ohio? Florida?...who knows
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| Subject: | Re: Welcome back Rusty! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:10:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kcooper@ptd.net writes:
Rusty,
Glad you would choose an SS again. I am currently in the fourth year of a
three month build on my SS. Had some doubt about the high stall/wing loading and
considered swapping for a FS again. This renewed vigor may get me back out in
the shop....right after the new barn doors, shed roof...
Dan Cooper (SS#17)
I wanna see a slingshot fly!!!
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George Randolph
Firestar driver of the villages Fla
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Beauford/Bob B/Gang:
My first flight in an airplane was right after WWII. My oldest
brother came back from the Navy, got his private ticket at Dale Mabry
Field (WWII Airbase), then took me on an exciting flight that was the
beginning of a lot more to come. I can remember sitting in the back
seat of the yellow and orange Aeronca Champ, at the age of 6 or 7,
barely able to see out the side windows. What a blast! That was 1945
or 1946, maybe 1947............
A few years ago I mentioned to Bruce Chesnut, TNK, that I had several
wishes for a long time:
1. Would like to fly an Aeronca Champ. Had not flown in one since
the first flight way back when.
2. Would like to drive a bulldozer.
That same afternoon both wishes were granted. Bruce has a 1946
Aeronca Champ that looks like it rolled right off the assembly line.
He asked me if I wanted him to go with me. I decided to do it alone.
What a flight. Completely different feel of the MKIII I had just
gotten out of. A totally rudder dominated aircraft. I made two take
offs and landings behind the 65 hp Continental.
I must say I was glad to get back into my old comfortble MKIII. What
a difference in the two airplanes.
If I had a choice between the Champ and my MKIII, I would not hesitate
to take the MKIII. After flying 180.0 hours in a very short period of
time without carrying spare oil, I'll stick to the later technology
and the 912ULS. Maintenance to the 912ULS consisted of oil and filter
changes, one spark plug change, and a fuel filter change. Also had to
replace two exhaust springs on the Titan exhaust system. Airframe
maintenance was zero, but I did have two flat tires. Seems I will be
plagued with the inner tube problem. Have not been able to find
"real" airplane inner tubes to go with the "real" 8.00X6 airplane
tires. Guess if I change out the inner tubes every two years I will
be ok. This pasts set of inner tubes lasted just over 3 years before
both suffered leaks in the sidewall of the tube where they are
vulvanized together.
I am waiting on two inner tubes (ATV type) from MATCO. Miss P'fer
sits in the hanger with both mains flat. Got home just in time.
Another week and I would have been sitting on the road side.
BTW: I did get to drive Bruce's Dresser bulldozer. That was fun too.
Thanks Bruce!
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
unable to
| determine if there is more than one ratio available. Do you think
your setup
| would work on a Mk III with floats? We are looking primarily for
best take-off
| performance.
|
| Howard Shackleford
Hi Shack:
Gearbox ratio is 2.43 to 1 on the 912ULS. Don't think there is a
choice of ratios for the 912ULS.
912 is 2.273 with the optional gears for a 2.43 ratio.
I believe it would work. My buddy Frank Reyen has been flying floats
with a 912 powered MKIII for years. His web site is:
http://www.webcom.com/reynen/mark3.html
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
They flew those little planes all over the place out on the coast
and all by dead reckoning. I'd love to be able to go back there one
more time. Snuffy
Hi Snuf/Gang:
Some of us were flying all over the place in Firestars, as late as
March 1990, using pilotage and DED reckoning. I didn't start using
the GPS until summer 1993. I have had the opportunity to fly short
periods of time, when the GPS failed, on mag compass and sectional,
and thoroughly enjoyed doing so. Took the "push atmosphere" out of
the cockpit related to the constant ground speed read out. However, I
will keep the GPS. Makes XC easier, quicker, safer, saves fuel, and
usually gives me a safe haven to get to when I need one in a hurry.
john h
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| Subject: | electric trim motor |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
OK guys, I'm really going to pick your brain on this one. Back in 92 my mk3
cage went to Sharon PA to Jim Lee's to have the retractable gear, larger
panel, dual throttle, electric trim and flaps, etc.installed. I believe the
fellows name who did the work was "Guy". After 9 yrs of use, the small 12 volt
motor which runs the elevator trim has quit. I would like to find out where I can
get another one of these. I'm sure they were used on more planes than mine.
Does anyone know what these little motors were used for so I can get one? They
are about 7-8" long and about 1 1/2" round. Or does anyone know if I can
contact Guy to ask him? One guy at my airport looked at it and said "oh, thats
a
linear actuator", but wasn't familiar with what it was used for.
Thanks for any help in advance.
Fly safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: Hurricane Charley Guilt Report |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net>
Good idea on a title for MR. Swiderski. I've been
thinking about something like that too, but, being
only a 'lurker' here, I've been reluctant to submit.
My thoughts lean more toward the classics and a
more properly descriptive title. Something like:
The Lightening (graying) Scribe of the Southern
Landmass and Conqueror of the Wind Demon(s).
Or we could just say we like his style,
George Bass
P. O. Box 770
Camp Verde, AZ
86322
USUA #30899
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| Subject: | the perfect airplane |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
sucked ya in with that title.....the quest for the ideal ride never
ends. A friend who helped
me move my plane yesterday is on his 4th build, 5th plane. First it's
too small, then too fast,
now on a tiger cub project. Fortunately he's a machinist and enjoys
the process.
If i liked the aeronca so well why don't i have one now? the answer
has to be, been there,
done that. They are a trusty plane and you can flop them around in the
sky without worry
of something falling apart. The price of an annual is really a minor
negative.
$15,000 will buy a decent one, sport pilot ready.
Building your own plane on the other hand is something better than just
whipping
out the old checkbook, an opportunity to put something of yourself into
it.
I've enjoyed the process. It has helped keep the gray matter
atrophication rate to
a slower pace and given me a chance to innovate that a certified
airplane denies.
My good brother helped me stick the wings back on today. It sure was a
perfect
flying day, crisp, clear, freshly mowed runway. ---soon. -BB do
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| Subject: | French Terror Threat Levels |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Beauford
Subject: French Terror Threat Levels
probably true...
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| Subject: | Kolb-List Digest: |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
I have a question Is there going to be a fly in at the KOLB factory this
year ? Please Send details :-) Thanks ! Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
factory this
| year ? Please Send details :-) Thanks ! Dave
Hi Dave/All:
According to the Kolb Web Page it is:
http://www.tnkolbaircraft.com/
TNK has it scheduled for 24 and 25 September 2004.
See ya'll there!
john h
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| Subject: | Slingshot with 912S |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Hi Bill,
I almost bought your old plane today. Unfortunately, even though I know
it's a good deal, I just seem to be afflicted by some desire to build my own
planes. I think I'm just too stubborn to pay an A&P to do my annuals. I
can't believe someone isn't jumping on it though.
Cheers,
Rusty (watch for that boring white Polytone color)
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| Subject: | Re: Slingshot with 912S |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
RD wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "RD" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
>
>Hi Bill,
>
>I almost bought your old plane today. Unfortunately, even though I know
>it's a good deal, I just seem to be afflicted by some desire to build my own
>planes. I think I'm just too stubborn to pay an A&P to do my annuals. I
>can't believe someone isn't jumping on it though.
>
>Cheers,
>Rusty (watch for that boring white Polytone color)
>
>Do not archive
>
hmm..
Around here an autograph runs about $150.
Charlie
flying my 3rd (bought) homebuilt; building because I can't afford to
*buy* what I want.
:-)
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| Subject: | Re: , comparing engines |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
The earlier discussion about reduction drive engines is right on. I don't
know of too many other people that have flown a MKIIIc with the same engine
both with a reduction drive and direct drive. The difference is startling. I
got very close to twice the thrust with my reduction drive engine turning
the same engine RPMs. I do need to qualify this at bit as the direct drive
engine had a two blade 60" wood prop and it was too long for the 3500
takeoff RPMs. I would turn allot of horse power into noise. And yes the VW
turns about the same RPMs as a Jabru which is not a surprise when you figure
it was a updated design of a VW.
I will also say that the 912 series of Rotax engines is the engine to have
if you must have the most reliable engine on the market but the price is a
bit daunting for some of us retired folks. As most of you know my VW let me
down on the way back for Oshkosh this year but I'm not ready to give up on
my goal of making the VW a good bargain priced option for the MKIII. We now
know that with a heaver prop, the reduction drive needs a stronger
attachment bracket. In the future the redrive will be supplied with the
stronger bracket on all planes with the heaver props. Since the first one
lasted almost 120 hours the fix shouldn't need to be too radical. They are
also working on a sprag clutch which should make the engine much smoother.
The sprag clutch is something they started on to smooth out the two cylinder
VW reduction drive engines. I was reminded just how smooth and quiet a VW
can be when the drive belts fell off. In fact it was so smooth I thought the
engine had quit running which lead to me over revving it.
I almost have the engine ready to remove from the plane for a rebuild but
figured I would take a bunch of measurements and build a new engine mount.
The new mount looks like it will be a few pounds lighter, have about a five
inch lower thrust line and better handle the torque of the big redrive
engine.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 8/22/2004 8:14:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
snuffy@usol.com writes:
"In 1946, some enterprising folks in Ohio marketed a modest little
> airplane called the Aeronca model 7AC which, on a mere 65 horsepower"
That sure brings back the memories!!! Was my first ride in an airplane. I
was 9 years old and my Dad had traded a 1954 chevrolet stakerack truck for one.
In Chehalis, Washington at Davis Air Service. They flew those little
planes all over the place out on the coast and all by dead reckoning. I can still
remember some of the stories those old Bush pilots would tell of their flights
. I'd love to be able to go back there one more time.
Do not archive
An Aeronca was my first attempt at flying too, when i was a grunt in the
AirForce...in Lousyana actually, near Barksdale AFB. I failed miserably as I
would get lost everytime I went up because i didn't know the area at all. It is
difficult to learn how to drink and fly at the same time.I was 20.
But my closest relationship with the Aeronca was when I was asked for the
last couple years to sell my special toy gliders at the annual Aeronca flyin at
Alliance Barber Airfield, Ohio, held in august of each year. If you really want
to see Aeroncas, that is the place to do it....just a nice lil field run by a
fella, Forrest Barber, who LOVES airplanes....I relate.
George Randolph
Firestar driver from The Villages Fl
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