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1. 04:29 AM - Really really Ultra Light (not Kolb) (Thom Riddle)
2. 04:47 AM - Re: Re: Frances, er....Ivan....Here we go again (GeoR38@aol.com)
3. 05:09 AM - Outrageous anti-aviation proposal (Thom Riddle)
4. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: Frances, er....Ivan....Here we go again (N27SB@aol.com)
5. 05:45 AM - Re: Re: Frances, er....Ivan....Here we go again (N27SB@aol.com)
6. 07:02 AM - Re: Outrageous anti-aviation proposal (bryan green)
7. 08:46 AM - Re: Outrageous anti-aviation proposal (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
8. 11:06 AM - Who? (Paul Petty)
9. 11:42 AM - Re: Who? (John Hauck)
10. 11:44 AM - Re: Who? (N27SB@aol.com)
11. 02:07 PM - Wrong W/B (Mike Pierzina)
12. 04:08 PM - Nailed Down in Tampa (Beauford)
13. 06:05 PM - Re: Nailed Down in Tampa (N27SB@aol.com)
14. 07:16 PM - We don't need no stinking Hurricanes (Denny Rowe)
15. 07:27 PM - Re: We don't need no stinking Hurricanes (bryan green)
16. 07:34 PM - Looong flight (kfackler)
17. 07:47 PM - Re: Looong flight (John Williamson)
18. 08:14 PM - Re: Looong flight (John Hauck)
19. 08:25 PM - Re: Nailed Down in Tampa (GeoR38@aol.com)
20. 09:22 PM - Re: Wrong W/B (James and Cathy Tripp)
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| Subject: | Really really Ultra Light (not Kolb) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
For those of you near your first flight and those who appreciate truly Ultra Light
Flying take a peak at this NOT KOLB RELATED link.
This is the neatest thing I've seen in quite awhile! (I'm glad she put that toothpick
there for perspective in that one shot. Imagine, that teeny nest, only
1.5 inches in diameter!)
This is truly amazing! Be sure to click on NEXT PAGE at the bottom
of each page...there are four pages.
This lady found a hummingbird nest and got pictures all the way
from the egg to leaving the nest. Took 24 days from birth to flight.
go to this web site: http://community-2.webtv.net/hotmail.com/verle33/HummingBirdNest/
Thom
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| Subject: | Re: Frances, er....Ivan....Here we go again |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 9/3/04 10:20:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, N27SB@aol.com
writes:
It Looks like more Kolbs are in threat in FLA. Hurricanes seem to hate
Kolb airplanes so hide em for the next couple of days, Better yet, maybe
some of
you guys in Ohio can flaunt yours and try to throw Frances off.
Good luck every one in Fla.
Steve Boetto
WHEW! I made it to Richard Swiderski's house and .......do I finally feel
safe with my wonderful firestar "by George!" NO...I repeat...NO.....Ivan is
coming and I just brought by George down THROUGH Frances!! God is throwing Scud
hurricanes at us!! One guy on the way down decided that HE is upset with the
queers!!! Well, everyone has an opinion.But I must say, I am happy to be at
least this far....still haven't gotten battened down for the latest threat
though.
In helping Rich a bit yesterday as we worked on his garage in the sweltering
....HUMIDITY OF 100%....he allowed the slanderous "geeez, this is really
hard" to escape from his personage. Now when the Swiderskiman shows that much
emotion....you KNOW things must be bad!!
Even though Frances blew hard enough to raise one of my trailer wheels clear
off the ground on the way down here on RT 95 near Jacksonville (no where
near the eye!!!!!!) everything is kinda under control now. ....and I just used
"stretchwrap, not shrinkwrap" on the plane. Will be going over the puppy after
Ivan to assure every rivet and brace is still intact.
For those who offered advice and assistance on this trip, I thank you
sincerely.
George Randolph
Firestar driver from.......THE VILLAGES!!!!
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| Subject: | Outrageous anti-aviation proposal |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Fellow Flyers:
There is an outrageous proposal in the House of Representatives (H.R. 5035) sponsored
by Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) that would require the Department of Homeland
Security to create a method of screening all passengers and property on
each flight of all passenger aircraft in the U.S., including general aviation
aircraft of all types. It would also prohibit any non-airline aircraft from flying
within 1,500 feet of any structure or building, and prohibit non-airline
aircraft from flying over any U.S. city with a population of 1 million or more.
It would further require that pilots of all aircraft in U.S. airspace remain
in contact with the Federal Aviation Administration, presumably by radio, regardless
of altitude or location.
See http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/pr/040909_weiner.html for more info on this.
PLEASE write your congressman and help defeat this stupid proposal.
You can find your congressman here http://www.house.gov/ by providing your zip+4.
If you don't know your +4, you can find it here. http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.htm
Thom
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| Subject: | Re: Frances, er....Ivan....Here we go again |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
George, I can speak from a bit of experiance after riding 2 of these monsters
out from the middle of the state(like you are now). All humor aside, we had
very little in the way of structural damage, UNLESS you had a tree fall on
you. The large amount of mature trees inland really buffer the wind and keep it
off the ground. The trees really help if you have them, But alot of them blow
over. When they do they crush everything. Also, study the storm as it
approaches, all of our heavy winds came from between the East and the NE. The only
way to get wind from the south is if it skins by you on the west(This can be
really bad). Get a generator if you can and store as much fuel as possible. Fuel
ran out here both times for days. WE had sustained wind from charles of 100mph
for 20 min. and sustained winds from frances of 65 mph for 18 hrs. Sitting on
my porch that faced west I could bbq chicken and drink beer with only a light
breeze. and remember, HERicanes are meaner than HIMacanes. that was a joke.
Be careful and good luck
Steve Boetto
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| Subject: | Re: Frances, er....Ivan....Here we go again |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Sorry, forgot the do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Outrageous anti-aviation proposal |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
I just finished e-mailing my congressman and urge you all to do the same.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Outrageous anti-aviation proposal
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
>
> Fellow Flyers:
>
> There is an outrageous proposal in the House of Representatives (H.R.
5035) sponsored by Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) that would require the
Department of Homeland Security to create a method of screening all
passengers and property on each flight of all passenger aircraft in the
U.S., including general aviation aircraft of all types. It would also
prohibit any non-airline aircraft from flying within 1,500 feet of any
structure or building, and prohibit non-airline aircraft from flying over
any U.S. city with a population of 1 million or more. It would further
require that pilots of all aircraft in U.S. airspace remain in contact with
the Federal Aviation Administration, presumably by radio, regardless of
altitude or location.
>
> See http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/pr/040909_weiner.html for
more info on this.
>
> PLEASE write your congressman and help defeat this stupid proposal.
>
> You can find your congressman here http://www.house.gov/ by providing your
zip+4.
> If you don't know your +4, you can find it here.
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.htm
>
> Thom
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Outrageous anti-aviation proposal |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Done!
AzDave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Outrageous anti-aviation proposal
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
>
> Fellow Flyers:
>
> There is an outrageous proposal in the House of Representatives (H.R.
5035) sponsored by Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) that would require the
Department of Homeland Security to create a method of screening all
passengers and property on each flight of all passenger aircraft in the
U.S., including general aviation aircraft of all types. It would also
prohibit any non-airline aircraft from flying within 1,500 feet of any
structure or building, and prohibit non-airline aircraft from flying over
any U.S. city with a population of 1 million or more. It would further
require that pilots of all aircraft in U.S. airspace remain in contact with
the Federal Aviation Administration, presumably by radio, regardless of
altitude or location.
>
> See http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/pr/040909_weiner.html for
more info on this.
>
> PLEASE write your congressman and help defeat this stupid proposal.
>
> You can find your congressman here http://www.house.gov/ by providing your
zip+4.
> If you don't know your +4, you can find it here.
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.htm
>
> Thom
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Hi Kolbers,
Anyone know who that is in the September issue of "Sport Pilot" magazine?
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
magazine?
|
| Paul Petty
Paul/All:
Well..............that depends on which "who" you are referring to.
If it is the yellow FS II, that is Dick Rahill in the factory FS II.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Sure looks like Rayhill.
Steve B
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hi Guys,
Does anybody know what the inches from CG fore and aft on a Firestar II
???
Seems the formula that they give you with the prints is only good for wasting
hour on different scenarios....which I've done....Now I'd like to calculate something
that the FAA can actually use...I've got their formula but I can't find
where the inch limits are....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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| Subject: | Nailed Down in Tampa |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Kolbers:
Spent yet another delightful day at the airstrip burying auger anchors, putting
additional mobile home straps over the top of the trailer and readjusting the
interior straps on the Fly... Now have three steel bands over the top plus one
4 foot auger anchor chained at each corner of the chassis...
Back is out, hands are 'et up (as they say in South Georgia), I'm sunburned to
a crisp, and I think I cracked a rib picking up concrete blocks while leaning
over against the edge of a sheet of plywood...
I quit. If Ivan wants that dumb little airplane that bad, let him have it...
if I can find enough of the pieces afterwards, I'll use em to build a rocking
chair and a still...
After the final shovel drill with the anchors, remained conscious just long enough
to take a couple of snapshots of how the trailer and Fly are secured....
These will be the "before" shots just in case... Have sent a few of 'em in to
be posted to photoshare if anyone is curious.
Florida sure is growin' on me...
Do Not Archive
Beauford
FF#076
Brandon, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Nailed Down in Tampa |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
I feel like you sound, Gottaluvit
Steve B
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| Subject: | We don't need no stinking Hurricanes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Wow, what a crazy week this has been.
Started out by having to bring the Mk-3 home from the airport as my friend Earl
whos hanger I have been keeping it in has finished the repairs on his Baby Ace
and needed the space my bird was occuping.
Flew home and circled my box canyon style 500 ft runway I had not yet landed on,
lined up on final a little too high and managed to get stopped just one foot
shy of a tree, WHOEE!
Tied her down a couple days as the weather was the best it's been all year.
Headed out last Saturday to pick up a friend so he could get aerial photos of his
Corn Maze on his farm. Landed on his 500 ft field, hot muggy somewhat rough
field that had a bigger up hill field on the departure end with waist deep Ragweed.
Should have never tried flying dual out of there, but I did. Broke ground
and found that the Ragweed went up hill faster than my loaded Kolb.
Lucky for me, Homer builds some tough birds. Drug it backward 200 feet out of
the weeds and after going back in to retreive a pop out Lexan vent that the weeds
had yanked loose, we found the only damage was a couple small tears in the
belly of the fuselage and my ACS pitot static tube.
After the best preflight I have ever done, I departed (solo this time) for another
friends (Real) private strip that borders on the Seele City National motocross
track in Delmont, PA.
There we gave my bird a bath and vaccumed out the Ragweed, than watched Jeremy
McGrath and the rest of the worlds best MXers practice for Sundays race.
The track officials took exception to my flying final over the parking area until
we explained that we were totally within the law at this licenced airfield.
Took a couple folks for rides while there and put a dogleg in my final approachs
to put us behind a tree line and avoid flying over the track grounds. (Doesn't
hurt to go the extra mile to keep good relations with neighbors)
Also performed my first loop while there. (Of course it was with a neat little
RC trainer that the owner was generous enough to let me try) You should have
seen Lindas face when I ran that one by her! :-)
Flew home, landed without incident this time at Rowe International, folded the
bird up and put her in the garage as Francis was on it's way.
Enjoyed the race Sunday after church.
Than today while clearing woods behind my house, I managed to hack my leg above
the left knee with the Husqvarna chainsaw. (Lucky I didn't skip church before
the races), didn't cut any vitals. Seventeen BIG stitches later, (six inside,
and 11 outside), a shot of antibiotic in the rear-end that hurt worse than the
chainsaw, two Vicodin, two Coors Lights and I am one thankful bugger tonight.
Will be out of comission for 5-6 weeks
Bottom line, my Kolbing is pretty much done for the year, anyone I had hoped to
visit, (sorry Jay Carter) will have to go on hold till Spring. The way things
are going, it's probably for the best.
Denny Rowe
Taking some deep breaths in Western PA
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| Subject: | Re: We don't need no stinking Hurricanes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Sorry to hear about your misfortune Denny but glad to know your ok. Stay
away from anything with moving parts for the next few weeks. Do not archive.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: We don't need no stinking Hurricanes
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
> Wow, what a crazy week this has been.
> Started out by having to bring the Mk-3 home from the airport as my friend
Earl whos hanger I have been keeping it in has finished the repairs on his
Baby Ace and needed the space my bird was occuping.
> Flew home and circled my box canyon style 500 ft runway I had not yet
landed on, lined up on final a little too high and managed to get stopped
just one foot shy of a tree, WHOEE!
> Tied her down a couple days as the weather was the best it's been all
year.
> Headed out last Saturday to pick up a friend so he could get aerial photos
of his Corn Maze on his farm. Landed on his 500 ft field, hot muggy somewhat
rough field that had a bigger up hill field on the departure end with waist
deep Ragweed. Should have never tried flying dual out of there, but I did.
Broke ground and found that the Ragweed went up hill faster than my loaded
Kolb.
> Lucky for me, Homer builds some tough birds. Drug it backward 200 feet
out of the weeds and after going back in to retreive a pop out Lexan vent
that the weeds had yanked loose, we found the only damage was a couple small
tears in the belly of the fuselage and my ACS pitot static tube.
> After the best preflight I have ever done, I departed (solo this time) for
another friends (Real) private strip that borders on the Seele City National
motocross track in Delmont, PA.
> There we gave my bird a bath and vaccumed out the Ragweed, than watched
Jeremy McGrath and the rest of the worlds best MXers practice for Sundays
race.
> The track officials took exception to my flying final over the parking
area until we explained that we were totally within the law at this licenced
airfield. Took a couple folks for rides while there and put a dogleg in my
final approachs to put us behind a tree line and avoid flying over the track
grounds. (Doesn't hurt to go the extra mile to keep good relations with
neighbors)
> Also performed my first loop while there. (Of course it was with a neat
little RC trainer that the owner was generous enough to let me try) You
should have seen Lindas face when I ran that one by her! :-)
> Flew home, landed without incident this time at Rowe International, folded
the bird up and put her in the garage as Francis was on it's way.
> Enjoyed the race Sunday after church.
> Than today while clearing woods behind my house, I managed to hack my leg
above the left knee with the Husqvarna chainsaw. (Lucky I didn't skip church
before the races), didn't cut any vitals. Seventeen BIG stitches later,
(six inside, and 11 outside), a shot of antibiotic in the rear-end that hurt
worse than the chainsaw, two Vicodin, two Coors Lights and I am one thankful
bugger tonight. Will be out of comission for 5-6 weeks
> Bottom line, my Kolbing is pretty much done for the year, anyone I had
hoped to visit, (sorry Jay Carter) will have to go on hold till Spring. The
way things are going, it's probably for the best.
>
> Denny Rowe
> Taking some deep breaths in Western PA
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
While I realize this doesn't compare with the kind of journeys taken by Brother
Hauck, Brother Willamson, and others, nevertheless this was a day that involved
a personal best for me, to wit:
8.2 hours on the Kolb Mark II
406 miles flown
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Hey Ken,
Eight hours in any airplane in one day is a very large accomplishment!
>8.2 hours on the Kolb Mark II
)406 miles flown
>-Ken Fackler
>Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
>Rochester MI
I just hope you had a lot of fun.
Brother Williamson
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| Subject: | Re: Looong flight |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
accomplishment!
Hi Ken/All:
I'll add my amen to the above!
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Nailed Down in Tampa |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 9/10/04 7:09:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes:
I quit. If Ivan wants that dumb little airplane that bad, let him have
it... if I can find enough of the pieces afterwards, I'll use em to build a
rocking chair and a still...
After the final shovel drill with the anchors, remained conscious just long
enough to take a couple of snapshots of how the trailer and Fly are
secured.... These will be the "before" shots just in case... Have sent a few
of 'em
in to be posted to photoshare if anyone is curious.
Florida sure is growin' on me...
Do Not Archive
Beauford
FF#076
Brandon, FL
Beaufordman!!! PLEEEEEZ don't sho me your mortality....you are one of my
yourng heros!! I am in the process of working with the Swiderskiman to beef up
some place on his castle to store my airplane that I towed down here from Ohio
THROUGH Frances......I can hardly believe I lived through that. I've never
lived through a hurricane before .....but I appall myself...because I can
hardly believe that I am that dumb. Well, I'll just blame it on my bride.
The pain of paradise.....
yer bud
George Randolph
Firestar drive in THe Villages, Fl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James and Cathy Tripp" <jtripp@elmore.rr.com>
Mike,
I'll send you (direct) what I used for my FS II that made the inspector
happy. The only question he asked was "is what you have here within the
manufacturer's limits?" And my answer was of course yes even though my CG
was at the aft limit or even a little beyond. It flies good though.
James Tripp, FS II, 36 hours
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Wrong W/B
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Does anybody know what the inches from CG fore and aft on a
Firestar II ???
>
> Seems the formula that they give you with the prints is only good for
wasting hour on different scenarios....which I've done....Now I'd like to
calculate something that the FAA can actually use...I've got their formula
but I can't find where the inch limits are....
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
> do not archive
>
>
> My Web Site:
> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
>
>
> Sometimes you just have to take the leap
> and build your wings on the way down...
> Gotta Fly...
>
>
> --
>
>
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