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1. 04:14 AM - Re: Firefly Axle attach fitting alignment (Thom Riddle)
2. 07:48 AM - Re: Firefly Axle attach fitting alignment (jerb)
3. 08:28 AM - Re: Fuel Mizer vrs NavMan (jerb)
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7. 05:40 PM - Re: Firefly Axle attach fitting alignment (herbgh@juno.com)
8. 06:22 PM - Re: Firefly Axle attach fitting alignment (DAquaNut@aol.com)
9. 06:53 PM - Re: Brakes on Mk III float plane (HShack@aol.com)
10. 08:59 PM - Re: Firestar II (Bruce Cox)
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly Axle attach fitting alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
I once owned a Zenith CH701 that had Yamaha disk brakes and golf cart wheels and
tires. The brakes were the best holding and stopping you can imagine. Because
the wheels/tires on motorcycles are so large diameter compared to our little
airplanes, they require much larger holding power to resist the higher torque.
So when used on smaller wheels/tires, they provide phenomenal holding power
and yet are smooth, even and easy to control.
Thom
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly Axle attach fitting alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Herb,
Be careful how much braking power you put on the FireFly or you will need a
roll skate attached under the nose cone as in certain situations it doesn't
take much to put it on its nose. If you be a skinny folk you may be fine
but much weight in the seat and the FireFly can nose over pretty easy -
like many things you just have handle it carefully - as long as you can
control the braking power and it's not to strong you'll be fine.
What wheels do you have the 5" or the 6" and are they plastic or the steel
wheel barrow wheels. We had the 6" wheel barrow wheels and had to swap out
the China bearing for better quality ones - takes four of them at about $5
each. That reduced the tenancy of brakes to grab with the Azusa internal
expansion brakes (go-kart). I had always thought that bands brakes would
be better for the FireFly. If properly install they float well and don't
grab. The Tracy O'Brien hydraulic brakes are great for a heavier plane but
would be too much braking power for the FireFly.
A shirt time back the fellow that bought our FireFly put different tires on
it and according to him, it made it much more controllable. I guess I and
my partner being tail dragger pilots didn't think it was bad but if
changing only the tire size improved the ground handling characteristics,
that's wonderful.
jerb
At 08:39 AM 9/17/04 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
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>Ed
> I hadn't considered that it might have been built that way until I
>took the wheels and brakes off yesterday and noticed that the axles are
>aligned. So , it could not be fixed by alignment!
>
> Bending the axle will mess up my already suspect brake drum
>alignment. Won't it? The bend will necessarily occur outboard of the
>brake backing plate attach point.
>
> My solution is to weld up another set of fittings with a longer
>collar so that I can drill a hole a bit further up the gear leg. Think
>that will weaken the gear leg?
>
> Anybody tried the mountain bike disc brakes? They are very lite
>and seem to work well. At least on the J3 Kitten that I helped to install
>them on. Herb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Mizer vrs NavMan |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Curious what mods were done that would effect it's reliability in an
aviation application.
In the pass speaking with Greg of Grand Rapids Technologies, manufacturer
of the EIS (great little box by the way), he indicated that there are two
types of flow sensors, one was plastic the other metal. They use the metal
one as he indicated it was more durable and reliable. As I understand one
of the concerns is the failure mode of the sensor and if it can block fuel
flow.
Any body compared the Mizer and NavMan - there is also the Flow-Scan unit
which is another unit that comes from the marine application. I believe
they use the same sensor as the EIS.
When I was in Australia a few years back, there was a fuel flow instrument
being advertised in a light plane magazine published over there. Can't
recall it's exact name but it sounded like a very small operation. See if I
can dig up one of the back issues.
Jack Hart we need you to investigate the difference of the two units. If
any one can come up with a sound answer, you can.
jerb
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Ed, that's the finest Kolb I've ever seen. (not saying that because
you're a neighbor)
airplanes don't come any more pure. -BB, hope to fly along side next
summer.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Very glad to hear John H, and plane are OK!
We made it through OK, but with about $50k damage to our house. Insurance will
take care of this, and the house is still structurally OK. Aside from the generator
my (very good friend) just brought back from Arkansas, we won't have power
for at least a few weeks.
My airport, 2R4 is significantly damaged. The T hangers have doors that face north,
and south. ALL the south facing doors are gone. They were sucked out at
the bottom, folded over the top of the hanger, and blown down wind. Most of
the south facing planes were damaged by doors, and some were even sucked out
of their hangers onto the ramp.
Almost all of the nouth facing doors were blown out at the bottom, but usually,
they stayed attached at the top rollers. My hanger faces North, and 2 out of 4
of the door panels blew outward at the bottom. If that's all that happened, it
would have been fine. Unfortunately, the south wind entering the doorless
south facing hangers offered another problem. The eastern wall that separated
me from the south facing hanger next to me was pushed in. The wall pushed my
workbench, and shelves into the right wing of the RV-3, but fortunately, this
caused no damage. Unfortunately, an entire steel panel from the rear portion
of that wall blew off and traveled through the hanger. It struck the tail of the
RV-3, destroying the rudder.
The panel then smashed in the nose of the Slingshot, and continued down the side.
The canopy is trashed, as well as the fabric on the left side. There may
be some damage to the fuselage cage as well, but I won't know until I get the
fabric off. The bottom of the left wing was hit, which bent in some ribs it
appears, and it looks like the right wingtip hit the wall of the hanger. The
tail tube is also dented, but the tail seems OK. At this point, I'm probably going
to consider the plane scrapped as parts, and I'll take it home to rebuild
it as a new aircraft. This will also let me make some of the changes I wanted
to make with a new kit. As soon as I can get the hanger doors moved so I can
get the plane out, I'll fold it up, and haul it home. Not sure when I'll get
around to the rebuild though.
BTW, thanks for all the well wishes. As bad as this sounds, it's not the worst
thing that can happen, and I'm looking at it with a positive attitude. First,
my rotary RV-3 is perfect, except for an easily rebuildable rudder. Second,
I originally wanted a project SS, rather than a complete plane, so this will
give me that (careful what you wish for <g>). Sad to see Bill's great paint job
destroyed, but there's no avoiding it with as much fabric as I need to replace.
He should be happy to have N62BW retired from liability though :-)
Rusty (N62BW gone before it's time)
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly Axle attach fitting alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
Jerb, all
Wonder why Kolb built the Fly so light on the tail? Has anyone
addressed it by installing the wheels a few inches more forward??
I was aware of the tendency to go up on its nose but still did it
twice!! Little slow on the learning curve. Never had the problem with
the MkIII .
I have made new axle/gear leg sockets. I cut and welded the sockets to
have a "small side" angle of 37 degrees. Wish I had made them 35 . I
have just about zero camber now. The old sockets were 42 and 43 degrees.
I made the tube that fits over the gear leg, about a half inch longer
to accept a new hole about an inch further up the gear leg(from the old
hole).
I am using Cheng shen tires--4.00X6 and think that they will do ok.
Wheel borrow tires. The rims are probably std issue for the MkIII. I
have a replacement set of bearings. Wonder what size tires the fellow
you sold the plane to is using??
The bird sits a bit "Hauck High" but I like that stance . I have to
raise a leg to fall back into the seat!
With the current tail wheel; differential braking seems to be very
limited in its affect on ground handling. No better than the Mini Max
that I had previously. I had to deplane sometimes to turn the max around
.
Guess a break over tail wheel would cure the problem? Ain't going to
happen on this puppy however.
Looking for some mountain bike disc brakes. Herb
do not acrchive
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:49:56 -0500 jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Herb,
> Be careful how much braking power you put on the FireFly or you will
> need a
> roll skate attached under the nose cone as in certain situations it
> doesn't
> take much to put it on its nose. If you be a skinny folk you may be
> fine
> but much weight in the seat and the FireFly can nose over pretty
> easy -
> like many things you just have handle it carefully - as long as you
> can
> control the braking power and it's not to strong you'll be fine.
>
> What wheels do you have the 5" or the 6" and are they plastic or the
> steel
> wheel barrow wheels. We had the 6" wheel barrow wheels and had to
> swap out
> the China bearing for better quality ones - takes four of them at
> about $5
> each. That reduced the tenancy of brakes to grab with the Azusa
> internal
> expansion brakes (go-kart). I had always thought that bands brakes
> would
> be better for the FireFly. If properly install they float well and
> don't
> grab. The Tracy O'Brien hydraulic brakes are great for a heavier
> plane but
> would be too much braking power for the FireFly.
> A shirt time back the fellow that bought our FireFly put different
> tires on
> it and according to him, it made it much more controllable. I guess
> I and
> my partner being tail dragger pilots didn't think it was bad but if
>
> changing only the tire size improved the ground handling
> characteristics,
> that's wonderful.
> jerb
>
> At 08:39 AM 9/17/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
> >
> >Ed
> > I hadn't considered that it might have been built that way
> until I
> >took the wheels and brakes off yesterday and noticed that the axles
> are
> >aligned. So , it could not be fixed by alignment!
> >
> > Bending the axle will mess up my already suspect brake drum
> >alignment. Won't it? The bend will necessarily occur outboard of
> the
> >brake backing plate attach point.
> >
> > My solution is to weld up another set of fittings with a
> longer
> >collar so that I can drill a hole a bit further up the gear leg.
> Think
> >that will weaken the gear leg?
> >
> > Anybody tried the mountain bike disc brakes? They are very
> lite
> >and seem to work well. At least on the J3 Kitten that I helped to
> install
> >them on. Herb
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly Axle attach fitting alignment |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 9/17/04 7:47:15 AM Central Standard Time, herbgh@juno.com
writes:
<<
My solution is to weld up another set of fittings with a longer
collar so that I can drill a hole a bit further up the gear leg. Think
that will weaken the gear leg?
>>
Herb,
I didnt realize you had the firestar fittings. I thought you had the
firefly. Im not sure you can use a pipe to bend the heavier walled firestar
fittings. The original firefly was not set up for brakes. I will eventually try
and
rig up some bicycle disc brakes on my firefly. Maybe you should call the
factory.
Ed Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Brakes on Mk III float plane |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
We need to put brakes on the amphib. float on the MkIII. Obviously need to
be rust-proof.
Any ideas?
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bruce Cox" <bruce_allen_cox@hotmail.com>
Hi Guys,
Seriously cosidering purchasing this. It's a pretty bird. Probably cost
me 12k. Comes with major over-haul. Damage was minor, and owner has 400 hrs.
on it since. Anything else I ought to consider or look for would be
appreciated, as this would be my first. Anyone know about the mandatory
paperwork I need to be aware of if I end up getting this?
Bruce
Kolb Firestar ll, N****, Experimental, 400 hours TT airframe and engine.
Poly Tone Ag Cat Yellow, vinyl graphics.
Rotax 503 DCDI, oil injection, C box with clutch, Power Max exhaust
coating, Warp Drive 3 blade tapered tip prop, HP hub and spinner.
EIS engine instrument w/altimeter and VSI, remote switches OAT, fuel guage,
Kuntzlemann streamlined strobes, wiring harness, and voltage regulator,
compass, ASI, ELT w/remote. BRS VLS 750 parachute system.
Tundra tires with high heel operated mechanical shoe brakes and polished
deep aluminum rims. High quality full swivel tail wheel.
Icom A-22 radio (removeable) with Flightcomm ANR-6 headphones, PTT on stick,
ELT, larger Lexan tinted windshield.
Open trailer (converted boat trailer) unlicensed. Aircraft has excellent one
man wing folding and loading ability.
This aircraft is quality built and not junk. It does have a damage history
(engine out 2 hours TT). Aircraft is flown regularly, 3.7 gph fuel burn,
cruise 65 mph indicated 5300 rpm. Aircraft to be sold with a major overhaul
by South Mississippi Light Aircraft, a Rotax service center. This is a great
flying, fun airplane with over $19,000 invested. Aircraft always hangered.
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