Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 09/28/04


Total Messages Posted: 26



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:34 AM - Re: Re: Cell Phones (kfackler)
     2. 04:42 AM - Structural integrity (Edward Steuber)
     3. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: Cell Phones (James, Ken)
     4. 05:31 AM - Re: Re: Cell Phones (robert bean)
     5. 05:52 AM - Throttle handle (al bumhoffer)
     6. 06:02 AM - Re: Structural integrity (herbgh@juno.com)
     7. 06:02 AM - Re: Re: Cell Phones (Richard Pike)
     8. 07:50 AM - Re: Throttle conversion (PATRICK LADD)
     9. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Cell Phones (HShack@aol.com)
    10. 08:30 AM - Firefly and X-Planes (herbgh@juno.com)
    11. 09:46 AM - Superman (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
    12. 10:00 AM - rusty (Paul Petty)
    13. 10:19 AM - Re: Superman (Jack & Louise Hart)
    14. 10:52 AM - Re: Superman (robert bean)
    15. 11:03 AM - Re: rusty (Rusty)
    16. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Cell Phones (N27SB@aol.com)
    17. 11:20 AM - Kolb/Jabi (PATRICK LADD)
    18. 11:39 AM - Re: TNK Homecoming 2004 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
    19. 12:53 PM - Re: Superman (kfackler)
    20. 01:49 PM - Re: Re: Cell Phones (Denny Rowe)
    21. 04:30 PM - Re: rusty (Charlie England)
    22. 04:34 PM - nice photo (Paul Petty)
    23. 05:16 PM - Fw: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in (bryan green)
    24. 07:05 PM - Re: Kolb/Jabi (John Williamson)
    25. 08:42 PM - 2003 twinstar (Tom Yilk)
    26. 09:12 PM - My recent trip to TNK Homecoming 2004 (John Williamson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:34:49 AM PST US
    From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: Cell Phones
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> I find it interesting that the two legislation sources cited seem to be in conflict. The FCC rule says "any other aircraft" which would include experimentals and ultralights. The FAA rule, on the other hand, specifies only those aircraft operated under certain registration categories or while flying IFR. With the rare exception of an experimental with full IFR capability it would seem that it does -not- apply to us. I'm not sure we're any closer to an answer to Can I or Can't I? However, there's absolutely NO WAY I can hear over a cell phone while flying my airplane so it's a moot point, and I'd be surprised if anyone else flying our type of aircraft can. What's all the fuss about? -Ken do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Cell Phones > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> > > Hi Vic, > > Here is the law: > > [Code of Federal Regulations] > [Title 47, Volume 2] > [Revised as of October 1, 2003] > From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access > [CITE: 47CFR22.925] > > [Page 189] > > TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION > > CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS > COMMISSION (CONTINUED) > > PART 22--PUBLIC MOBILE SERVICES--Table of Contents > > Subpart H--Cellular Radiotelephone Service > > Sec. 22.925 Prohibition on airborne operation of cellular telephones. > > Cellular telephones installed in or carried aboard airplanes, > balloons or any other type of aircraft must not be operated while such > aircraft are airborne (not touching the ground). When any aircraft > leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must > be turned off. The following notice must be posted on or near each > cellular telephone installed in any aircraft: > ``The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is airborne is > prohibited by FCC rules, and the violation of this rule could result in > suspension of service and/or a fine. The use of cellular telephones > while this aircraft is on the ground is subject to FAA regulations.'' > > Here is the FAA Advisory circular that helps explain it: > http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/acs/ac91211a.pdf > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 648 hours > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot > Zenith CH701 Project > http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane > http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 04:42:15 AM PST US
    From: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: Structural integrity
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com> I am beginning to get a little nervous about the cruise speed of my modified Ultrastar . I now have a total of 20 hours and have confirmed all my numbers many times....5200 RPM yields 75MPH and 2 gallons per hour....5400 gets 80MPH (GPS calm air confirmed multiple times)....this is not suppose to happen on a 35 HP Cuyuna with a single Mikuni carb. I feel uncomfortable making claims like this but they are accurate ...it does stall faster (35mph) than the previous machine... The reason this may be happening is the weight and balance is forward of my last machine. The fuel is now in a seat tank but the engine was moved to the rear by one inch....Will this airframe take this airspeed over time....in a shallow dive and more RPM I can get 100 mph ..... The wings have been modified (advice gleaned from the list ) with the steel ring at the butt of each wing , reinforced drag strut ,and beefed up ribs with aluminum sheet over the last rib for twist at tips. Ailerons (full span original) are very responsive at 60Mph but become heavy at cruise. I know the answer is just run the engine slower but the Rpm fluctuates from 4800 to 5100 . I believe this is a carburetor transition area between the needle and the main jet. I have tried repitching the ground adjustable 3 blade Ivoprop but always come back to 6200Rpm at 55Mph on climbout..The engine runs smoother above 5200 but airspeed gets too high....I know some of you are saying what is the problem with high cruise speeds but I am no aeronautical engineer and need some more advice from some of you experienced Ultrastar guys..... To sum up my question...Do I have anything to worry about pushing this airframe at this speed...originally suppose to fly at 60mph. Ed in Western NY


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    Time: 05:21:14 AM PST US
    From: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
    Subject: Re: Cell Phones
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com> Funny the headphone makers seem not to know of the law, I was looking for Headphones at Oshkosh this year and all the talk was about how you can NOW hook up your cell phone to their new models and how to retro fit headphone to cell use. I guess they where only thinking we would use our phone on the ground :-) Ken -----Original Message----- From: John Williamson [mailto:kolbrapilot@comcast.net] Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Cell Phones --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> Hi Vic, Here is the law: [Code of Federal Regulations] [Title 47, Volume 2] [Revised as of October 1, 2003] From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access [CITE: 47CFR22.925] [Page 189] TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION (CONTINUED) PART 22--PUBLIC MOBILE SERVICES--Table of Contents Subpart H--Cellular Radiotelephone Service Sec. 22.925 Prohibition on airborne operation of cellular telephones. Cellular telephones installed in or carried aboard airplanes, balloons or any other type of aircraft must not be operated while such aircraft are airborne (not touching the ground). When any aircraft leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must be turned off. The following notice must be posted on or near each cellular telephone installed in any aircraft: ``The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is airborne is prohibited by FCC rules, and the violation of this rule could result in suspension of service and/or a fine. The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is on the ground is subject to FAA regulations.'' Here is the FAA Advisory circular that helps explain it: http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/acs/ac91211a.pdf John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 648 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot Zenith CH701 Project http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane do not archive


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    Time: 05:31:56 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Cell Phones
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Back in the days when I was gainfully employed, aviation was a way to get away from the world and lower my blood pressure. Contact with the outside would have defeated that purpose. -now perhaps a small pocket music player and headphones...............BB do not archive > However, there's absolutely NO > WAY I can hear over a cell phone while flying my airplane so it's a > moot > point, and I'd be surprised if anyone else flying our type of aircraft > can. > What's all the fuss about? > >> > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 05:52:47 AM PST US
    From: al bumhoffer <abumhoffer@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Throttle handle
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: al bumhoffer <abumhoffer@yahoo.com> After stopping to chat with some fellow flyers at another strip, as I made my take off and pushed the throttle forward, I felt something give. I was climbing out at about 6000 rpm, not the usual 6500. After I was at a safe altitude where I could look for the cause and make a landing if necessary, I found that the throttle handle had broke where it meets the flat piece that fastens to the cage. I could pull it back but not push it forward. It was still attached but just barely, so I flew back to our home stip and made my best landing yet. I am in the process of shortening it up and hope that it will hold up better. I have noticed that others have done similar changes when veiwing photos of their planes. I just wondered if any one else had the same problem ? Al Bumhoffer, Brand New 1995 FirestarII with 11 hrs Elkton MI __________________________________


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    Time: 06:02:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Structural integrity
    From: herbgh@juno.com
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Hi Ed Is it for sale?? :-) Herb in Ky On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:41:47 -0400 "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" > <esteuber@rochester.rr.com> > > I am beginning to get a little nervous about the cruise speed > of my modified Ultrastar . I now have a total of 20 hours and have > confirmed all my numbers many times....5200 RPM yields 75MPH and 2 > gallons per hour....5400 gets 80MPH (GPS calm air confirmed multiple > times)....this is not suppose to happen on a 35 HP Cuyuna with a > single Mikuni carb. I feel uncomfortable making claims like this but > they are accurate ...it does stall faster (35mph) than the previous > machine... > The reason this may be happening is the weight and balance > is forward of my last machine. The fuel is now in a seat tank but > the engine was moved to the rear by one inch....Will this airframe > take this airspeed over time....in a shallow dive and more RPM I > can get 100 mph ..... > The wings have been modified (advice gleaned from the list ) > with the steel ring at the butt of each wing , reinforced drag strut > ,and beefed up ribs with aluminum sheet over the last rib for twist > at tips. Ailerons (full span original) are very responsive at 60Mph > but become heavy at cruise. I know the answer is just run the engine > slower but the Rpm fluctuates from 4800 to 5100 . I believe this is > a carburetor transition area between the needle and the main jet. I > have tried repitching the ground adjustable 3 blade Ivoprop but > always come back to 6200Rpm at 55Mph on climbout..The engine runs > smoother above 5200 but airspeed gets too high....I know some of you > are saying what is the problem with high cruise speeds but I am no > aeronautical engineer and need some more advice from some of you > experienced Ultrastar guys..... > To sum up my question...Do I have anything to worry about > pushing this airframe at this speed...originally suppose to fly at > 60mph. > > Ed in Western NY > > > > = > = > = > = > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:02:21 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Cell Phones
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Since the FCC rules says "any other aircraft" a legally Part 103 flyer is excluded. A Part 103 legal ultralight is not an aircraft, it is a vehicle, the FAA says so. A technicality, but legal enforcement stands and falls on technicalities. And that is also the reason that some approach control facilities will not give radar service to ultralights: the FAR's make no provision for dealing with vehicles, only aircraft. Which means that the controller who treats an u/l like an aircraft is sticking his/her neck out somewhat. On the other hand, failing to provide service to an u/l that asks for it- and then having something bad happen because you didn't- is also sticking yer neck out. Richard Pike, retired from FAA @ TRI in 1999 MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 06:32 AM 9/28/2004 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> > >I find it interesting that the two legislation sources cited seem to be in >conflict. The FCC rule says "any other aircraft" which would include >experimentals and ultralights. The FAA rule, on the other hand, specifies >only those aircraft operated under certain registration categories or while >flying IFR. With the rare exception of an experimental with full IFR >capability it would seem that it does -not- apply to us. I'm not sure we're >any closer to an answer to Can I or Can't I? However, there's absolutely NO >WAY I can hear over a cell phone while flying my airplane so it's a moot >point, and I'd be surprised if anyone else flying our type of aircraft can. >What's all the fuss about? > >-Ken > >do not archive > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Cell Phones > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" ><kolbrapilot@comcast.net> > > > > Hi Vic, > > > > Here is the law: > > > > [Code of Federal Regulations] > > [Title 47, Volume 2] > > [Revised as of October 1, 2003] > > From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access > > [CITE: 47CFR22.925] > > > > [Page 189] > > > > TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION > > > > CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS > > COMMISSION (CONTINUED) > > > > PART 22--PUBLIC MOBILE SERVICES--Table of Contents > > > > Subpart H--Cellular Radiotelephone Service > > > > Sec. 22.925 Prohibition on airborne operation of cellular telephones. > > > > Cellular telephones installed in or carried aboard airplanes, > > balloons or any other type of aircraft must not be operated while such > > aircraft are airborne (not touching the ground). When any aircraft > > leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must > > be turned off. The following notice must be posted on or near each > > cellular telephone installed in any aircraft: > > ``The use of cellular telephones while this aircraft is airborne is > > prohibited by FCC rules, and the violation of this rule could result in > > suspension of service and/or a fine. The use of cellular telephones > > while this aircraft is on the ground is subject to FAA regulations.'' > > > > Here is the FAA Advisory circular that helps explain it: > > http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/acs/ac91211a.pdf > > > > > > John Williamson > > Arlington, TX > > > > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 648 hours > > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot > > Zenith CH701 Project > > http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane > > http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane > > > > do not archive > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:50:40 AM PST US
    From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle conversion
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> I have recently joined this group, being one of a syndicate of three which has bought a flying Kolb Mk.III. This aircraft has the short wings and is classed as a Group A aircraft in the UK (ie. not a microlight)>> Hi Martin, Welcome to the list from one of the few Limeys here. I live near Bath and I am waiting for the delivery of 111 Extra Kit. What made you go for the `A` cat? I am hoping to install a Jabi on mine which will be a microlight cat. I have been flying a Eurostar with the 912 for the last year and liked it but the 912 takes the Extra into Class`A`. Being unwilling to give up the foustroke advantages the Jabiru it has to be. Have you had much experience with the 111. What sort of performance? Contact me off line if you like Pat Ladd pj.ladd@btinternet.com Do not Archive


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    Time: 08:28:18 AM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Cell Phones
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 9/28/2004 6:35:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, kfackler@ameritech.net writes: However, there's absolutely NO WAY I can hear over a cell phone while flying my airplane so it's a moot point, and I'd be surprised if anyone else flying our type of aircraft can. What's all the fuss about? -Ken Lightspeed has a nice ANR headset that has a jack to plug in an adapter cord from your cellphone; works real well. Howard Shackleford FS II SC


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    Time: 08:30:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Firefly and X-Planes
    From: herbgh@juno.com
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Guys I would like to use X-planes to do an analysis of the Kolb Firefly. Just for a better understanding. Has anyone done this? Or done any other analysis of the Kolb wing, thrust line, drag etc? Do we have a lot of trim drag on Kolbs ? A quick study of the airfoil on the Ultrastar(assuming it to be the same as the Firefly and Firestar?) shows a max thickness at 21-22 %. Clark Y mod? Herb ps does anyone know if X-planes is capable of doing such an analysis? do not archive


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    Time: 09:46:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Superman
    From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
    09/28/2004 12:46:10 PM --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Greetings all. Check this out: http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=5211114 Ya suppose this will fall under light sport aircraft? Erich Weaver


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    Time: 10:00:01 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
    Subject: rusty
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net> Anyone heard from Rusty? I understand his new bird was damaged my Ivan.... pp do not archive


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    Time: 10:19:28 AM PST US
    From: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
    Subject: Re: Superman
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> At 09:44 AM 9/28/04 -0700, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com > > >Greetings all. > >Check this out: > >http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=5211114 > >Ya suppose this will fall under light sport aircraft? > >Erich Weaver > Erich, Only if he converts to a single engine and to fixed landing gear. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net


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    Time: 10:52:43 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Superman
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Outrageous ride! -also check out the guy hanggliding over mt everest in the current kitplanes mag. -BB do not archive On 28, Sep 2004, at 12:44 PM, Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com > > > Greetings all. > > Check this out: > > http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=5211114 > > Ya suppose this will fall under light sport aircraft? > > Erich Weaver > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 11:03:58 AM PST US
    From: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: rusty
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Anyone heard from Rusty? I understand his new bird was damaged my Ivan.... pp do not archive --------------------- Hi Paul, My wife hears from me all the time, but she really has no choice :-) As I posted before, the hanger was damaged, along with my RV-3 and the SS. I hope to have the RV-3 flying again by this weekend, since it only needed a new rudder and left aileron. The SS needed a new nose, canopy, and fuselage fabric, as well as some internal repairs to some wing ribs, and maybe a new fuselage tube. Since the 6 color paint job is history, and since there are so many things I wanted to change anyway, I surrendered the data plate, airworthiness certificate, and registration to the FAA. I'll make the repairs, inspect all the wing internal construction, make the changes I wanted, and recover and paint. When complete, it will truly be a new plane, and I'll have plenty of hours logged to reregister it. I can't see that happening before next Summer though. Cheers, Rusty


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    Time: 11:18:32 AM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Cell Phones
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 9/28/04 10:29:14 AM Central Daylight Time, HShack@aol.com writes: > -Ken > Lightspeed has a nice ANR headset that has a jack to plug in an adapter cord > > from your cellphone; works real well. > > Howard Shackleford > FS II > SC > > Thanks Howard, Lightspeed has a great product, we plan on selling it to our industrial customers. Sorry to All for bringing up the whole stupid cell phone thing, But It would be nice to have an answer by the regs on UL use. Remember, those annoying devices have an OFF switch. Use them when it suits your needs. Steve B WetFly #007


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    Time: 11:20:25 AM PST US
    From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Kolb/Jabi
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Hi John Williams, I tried to send this to you off list but my post was returned , I had heard that there was an overheating problem with the Jabi on the ground. Your experience seems to confirm this. Do you think some sort of fairing to duct some more air over the engine would help, or is the problem not serious enough to bother with. It doesn`t sound good practice to be running hot all the time but with the 111 extra that I am hoping to build 90 knots will be over the Vne. Pat


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    Time: 11:39:34 AM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: TNK Homecoming 2004
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> Jerry The Jabiru is a fairly high RPM engine with out a reduction drive and as such has to turn a small inefficient prop. You are right 85HP is plenty of horsepower but it is thrust that makes a airplane fly. I don't have any experience with the engine other than seeing it fly on John W's Kolbra. What I do have experience with is VW engines. The direct drive VW that I flew for a few years operated at the same RPMs and also requited a small inefficient prop. Granted my VW weighted app. 20 lbs more than the Jabiru and as configured produced 3-4 less HP but that engine was unsuitable for a MKIIIc. My reduction drive VW weighs 8 lbs more than my direct drive VW but produces twice the thrust, climbs twice as well, flies faster, and uses less fuel while turning the same RPMs and about the same HP. The key here, at least for the Kolb MKIIIc, is that you need a large slow turning prop to get good performance. I'm sure if you had a great increase in power you might get sufficient thrust out of a small inefficient prop but you would pay with high fuel burn and likely a heavy airplane. Sounds like another great TNK Home Coming. Another 2-3 weeks and I should be back in the air with a rebuilt engine, redrive bracket, and new lower engine mount. My $.02 Worth Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: TNK Homecoming 2004 > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net> > > Hello John, My name is Jerry Curtin. I live in Mississippi. Was looking > foward to meeting you at the fly in but was unable to attend. I wanted to > ask you why you changed engines on your plane. I was under the impression > that the 85hp would be more than enough to push you right along. If it was > enough power, do you think another prop would do better as far as top end > and fuel economy. I was thinking of the 120 Jabiru with the airmaster > constant speed prop would push the Mark lll Extra right at vne but keeping > it just below would translate to great fuel economy. Please let me know > what > you think. Thanks for your time, Jerry


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    Time: 12:53:26 PM PST US
    From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: Superman
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net> Well, it's under the weight limit, doesn't have retractable gear or a controllable prop. What about the speed? do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Superman > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com > > > Greetings all. > > Check this out: > > http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=5211114 > > Ya suppose this will fall under light sport aircraft? > > Erich Weaver > >


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    Time: 01:49:37 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Cell Phones
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Cell Phones > >. -now perhaps a small pocket music player and headphones.............. .BB do not archive > Bob, This reminds me of our trip to the Wellsville Fly-In Fathers Day weekend. My first trip across the local mountains in a 2 stroke powered bird, low ceilings, 40 mph tailwind, occasional light mist, minimum VFR. At some point I was feeling a LITTLE concerned, than Linda fires up a ZZ-Topp Blues CD in her player plugged into the intercom, it turned a nail biting affair into a mountain surfing adventure. Now everytime I hear "She don't love me she loves my AEROPLANE" (automobile), I am back over PA's mountains, riding the wave, Homer style. :-) Denny, Living the Blues, Rowe Mk-3


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    Time: 04:30:32 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: rusty
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> Paul Petty wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net> > >Anyone heard from Rusty? I understand his new bird was damaged my Ivan.... > >pp > >do not archive > He's fine; he said that he's surrendered the Kolb's a/w & will rebuild it with his name on the new a/w cert. He had minor damage to his RV-3 & some damage to his hangar, & a lot to his house. Charlie


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    Time: 04:34:04 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
    Subject: nice photo
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> Hi Kolbers, I'm headed off to the shop but before going I thought I would send this out. I know how many feel about the fergys but this photo of a fergy departing our field just happened to turn out real good so I thought I would share it. Thanks for the update on Wayne Woody hope he recovers soon and thanks for the report Rusty I guess I missed the first post. After the Kolb fly in I am excited about finishing our Kolbra! Hope yall enjoy the snapshot and forgive me that it's a Fergy. And a dang fine one at that I might add. I love all these little airplanes..... http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P9117080.jpg Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp do not archive


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    Time: 05:16:13 PM PST US
    From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Fw: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall
    Fly-in --> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Bryan Green (Elgin SC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W.Davis" <patches11us@yahoo.com> Subject: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in > :~) > Carolina Sport Flyers Annual fall fly-in > October 15th,16th & 17th 2004 > Lee County Airport(52j)Bishopville,SC > http://www.airnav.com/airport/52j > > Food and drinks served all day on Sat 16th by a local church with > all > proceeds going to the church to help with a rebuild. > Any one that flies in will receive a attendance desk plaque > Young eagles rides on Sat 16th > Ultralight/Sport planes on display and flying > Intro flight lessons > Ultralight/ Sportplane dealers > > We will also be doing trophys and ribbons again this year on Sat > 16th. > Farthest Distance Flown > Oldest 2 place > Oldest single place > Best in show > Best 2 place > Best single place > Crowd favorite > > Driving Directions: > From Florence or Columbia,SC > Take I-20 East/West to Exit 116, Take hwy 15 North, Go all the way > through the town of Bishopville, A mobil Home dealership will be on > your right, The next road to your left will be Hwy 341, Turn left, > The airport will be apx 1/2 mile on the right. > > Also we we be selling raffle tickets for some neat prizes. > Thanks to all who came last year and Hope to see you all here again > this year. Pass the word!!!! > > > For more Info: > John Davis > patches11us@y... > > > > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jrDrlB/TM > > > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carolinasportflyers/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > carolinasportflyers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >


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    Time: 07:05:17 PM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
    Subject: Kolb/Jabi
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> Hi Pat and all prospective Jabiru fliers, You have about 5 minutes of ground run time before the CHT's hit their limits. In the air, you have to use the company furnished air cowlings for proper cooling. At speeds below 90 knots you can only run at 2800 rpm or higher for short lengths of time before the CHT's again exceed their limits. You will most likely not be satisfied with the climb and cruise performance you get from the Jabiru when installed on a Kolb MarkIII Xtra, Classic or a Kolbra. These airframes just can't sustain the speed needed to keep the CHT's down. If you use a Jabiru engine and it isn't what you expected, please don't blame it on the airframe you put it on. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 682 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot Zenith CH701 Project http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane do not archive


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    Time: 08:42:22 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Yilk" <bmwon@charter.net>
    Subject: 2003 twinstar
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom Yilk" <bmwon@charter.net> Hi out there I'm new to the list, I would like to get a fat ultra lite or a plane that will qualify as a sport plane Is a good twinstar with a 503 single carb a good choice for a starter plane. What kind of cruse speed can I expect, I will usually be flying by myself. I have followed klob over the years and have looked at many others. I'm also looking at a challanger but the twinstar looks better to me. Please educate me on the pros and cons of the Klob twinstar. Thanks Tom Yilk Hasting NE


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    Time: 09:12:59 PM PST US
    From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
    Subject: My recent trip to TNK Homecoming 2004
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> Fellow Kolbers, I just finished a webpage on this recent trip to include some photos taken at the Homecoming. Use this link and go to the "Flights in 2004" hyperlink. http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot I know of one broken link and will fix it tomorrow. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 682 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot Zenith CH701 Project http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane do not archive




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