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1. 03:54 AM - (no subject) (Airgriff2@aol.com)
2. 04:32 AM - Re: Re: ultralight crash (ul15rhb@juno.com)
3. 05:22 AM - Re: Re: ultralight crash (John Hauck)
4. 05:34 AM - Re: Re: ultralight crash (John Hauck)
5. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: ultralight crash (John Hauck)
6. 05:55 AM - Del Cross (John Hauck)
7. 07:15 AM - Re: harley (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
8. 08:45 AM - Re: Del Cross (DAquaNut@aol.com)
9. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: harley (snuffy@usol.com)
10. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: harley (PATRICK LADD)
11. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: harley (Kolbdriver)
12. 09:47 AM - Re: harley (Edward Chmielewski)
13. 11:26 AM - Bose (Paul Petty)
14. 11:33 AM - Re: Bose (Edward Chmielewski)
15. 11:52 AM - Re: Re: harley (snuffy@usol.com)
16. 11:54 AM - noise (robert bean)
17. 12:51 PM - Re: Bose (HShack@aol.com)
18. 01:05 PM - Re: Bose (HShack@aol.com)
19. 01:17 PM - Bose (Paul Petty)
20. 01:46 PM - Re: Bose (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
21. 02:46 PM - Re: noise (Bob N.)
22. 05:05 PM - Re: Bose (N27SB@aol.com)
23. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: harley (Kirk Smith)
24. 06:03 PM - Re: ANR headsets (Rusty)
25. 06:29 PM - Re: Bose (HShack@aol.com)
26. 06:33 PM - Re: ANR headsets (HShack@aol.com)
27. 06:39 PM - Re: ANR headsets (robert bean)
28. 07:23 PM - sport pilot (Charles & Meredith Blackwell)
29. 08:29 PM - Re: TNK Homecoming 2004 Photos (WillUribe@aol.com)
30. 09:06 PM - Re: ANR headsets (Edward Chmielewski)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
I would like to send a photo to Homer of the fly-in. Could some one please
e-mail me direct with his street address, in Pheonixville. (please write "Homer
",in the subject line)
Thanks
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Re: ultralight crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 00:43:44 EDT DAquaNut@aol.com writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
>
>
> Its a sad day for me. Dale Cross, of Groves Texas, an old
> aquaintence of
> mine who was one of the pioneers in kolb flying, and had numerous
> awards,
> Died Saturday, Flying his Kolb Flyer in an exibition. I dont know
> any of the
> particulars except witnesses said he took off then the plane rolled
> to the right
> and impacted nose down. Maybe John Hauck can find out more than I
> have. I
> feel sure others on this list have met or new Dale. He was a swell
> guy who loved
> flying, going nowhere, just for the fun of it. I will miss him
> sorely.
>
> Ed Diebel
Ed and others,
This is a very sad day. Del Cross has been flying that orange and white
twin engine Kolb Flyer for as long as I can remember. He flew at Oshkosh
for so many years. Could it be he had an engine out on takeoff and
couldn't recover?
Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: ultralight crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
aquaintence of
| mine who was one of the pioneers in kolb flying, and had numerous
awards,
| Died Saturday, Flying his Kolb Flyer in an exibition. |
Ed Diebel
Good Ed/Gang:
Sorry to hear about Dale Cross. I got a phone call from Travis Brown,
New Kolb Aircraft, early this morning informing me of the accident and
loss of Dale. Travis had no other information other than he had died
as the result of a crash of his Flyer.
There will probably be a report in the FAA Daily Accident Report,
later this morning. We can do a search of TV stations and news papers
in the area of Groves, TX, and get more info.
Do we have anyone in that area? What event was Dale attending?
I have known Dale for many years, but only at Sun and Fun, and
Oshkosh. A few years ago, Dale's Flyer was flipped over on its back
during a thunderstorm at Oshkosh. Last time I saw him was at Lakeland
this year.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: ultralight crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| during a thunderstorm at Oshkosh.
Hi Gang:
I should further explain that the Flyer was tied down at the time it
flipped over.
Dale was not flying it.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: ultralight crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Gang:
Here's a report, though limited, from a Beaumont TV station. It also
has a picture of Del.
http://www.kfdm.com/engine.pl?station=kfdm&id=7391&template=breakoutlocal.html
Groves, TX, is a suburb of Beaumont.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Gang:
Another report from Beaumont newspaper:
http://www.southeasttexaslive.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13059703&BRD=2287&PAG=461&dept_id=512589&rfi=6
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
"Kirk Smith" wrote:
<< That baby would sure sound sweet with straight pipes ... snuf >>
Kirk, and Kolbers -
For all of you wishing for the sound of a Harley on your Kolbs - a solution
exists! It's called a Verner. Same two big air-cooled jugs (1400cc), same
RPM range, same throaty sound from minimal exhaust pipes. 165 lbs. Biggest
difference is the Verner's two cylinders are 180 degrees offset from each
other, compared to Harley's 45. But the sound is the same. Even does the
"potato-potato-potato" at idle.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, Verner-powered in
Cedar Crest, NM
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
If you type in - www.abc13.com - There is a picture of Dell
Cross's Kolb Flyer after the crash. I think his plane was 24or 25 years old.
The last time I saw Him I commented to Him he should replace the rusty 1/16
cables to the rudder with new 3/32" ones, but I dont think he felt a need to. Dont
know if that was the cause or not. There was an autopsy ordered but Im not
sure how to find the results. I think the FAA is going to investigate the
crash. Wish I new more.
Ed Diebel
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
For all of you wishing for the sound of a Harley on your Kolbs - a solution
> exists! It's called a Verner. Same two big air-cooled jugs (1400cc),
same
> RPM range, same throaty sound from minimal exhaust pipes. 165 lbs.
Biggest
> difference is the Verner's two cylinders are 180 degrees offset from each
> other, compared to Harley's 45. But the sound is the same. Even does the
> "potato-potato-potato" at idle.
How many hundred thousand of them are out there running? Can I stop
over to the local Verner dealer and pick up a part in a jiffy? They have
a factory in the USA? snuf
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
For all of you wishing for the sound of a Harley on your Kolbs >>
Good grief! Dont you have any noise controls in the USA.?
Here in theEurope we have to go to great lengths to REDUCE the noise from
our a/c. Every engine/aircraft/propeller combination has to be measured
according to laid down criteria and if you are too noisy, you don`t fly.
Unfortunately it often takes only a complaint from one person to start the
local authorities on the trail to closing a flying strip down.
At one time all microlight flyers were roundly hated by nearly everyone.
They complained of lawnmower engines in the sky droning around spoiling
their afternoon nap in the garden.
The enforcement of the noise regulations plus increasing speeds plus the
move towards 4 stroke engines has helped a lot.
Cheers
Pat
pj,ladd@btinternet.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mfire.com>
I don't believe that our aircraft's storage compartments have the capacity
to carry the required parts to keep the HD's running. Also it is very hard
to find a place to pull over and work on them at 3000 feet.
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of snuffy@usol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: harley
--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
For all of you wishing for the sound of a Harley on your Kolbs - a solution
> exists! It's called a Verner. Same two big air-cooled jugs (1400cc),
same
> RPM range, same throaty sound from minimal exhaust pipes. 165 lbs.
Biggest
> difference is the Verner's two cylinders are 180 degrees offset from each
> other, compared to Harley's 45. But the sound is the same. Even does the
> "potato-potato-potato" at idle.
How many hundred thousand of them are out there running? Can I stop
over to the local Verner dealer and pick up a part in a jiffy? They have
a factory in the USA? snuf
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Fortunately, no! To me, an ultralight in flight is the sound of freedom.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: harley
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> For all of you wishing for the sound of a Harley on your Kolbs >>
>
> Good grief! Dont you have any noise controls in the USA.?
> Here in theEurope we have to go to great lengths to REDUCE the noise from
> our a/c.
(Snip)
>
> Cheers
> Pat
>
> pj,ladd@btinternet.com
>
> Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
Well... add another 2 grand to the cost of the Kolbra but I will have the Bose
AR headsets or at least one in it. Yesterday I got my first ride in Charleys RV8
and he has them in that plane. What a difference they make! So if you want
to lose the noise and can drop a grand go for it! Worth every penny.
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Paul/Kolb community,
Make sure they work in your particular environment. I've used the Series
2 and the X Bose in aircraft, they
seem to work better in some cases, as if they were 'tuned' for a certain noise
footprint. One client switched back to
his old srs.2 from the X because the X worked poorly (Cessna 340). As long as
you can try them out, or return in 7
days, etc., you should be fine. Are you using an intercom? That also can be a
big factor in ANR ops.
Good luck!
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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From: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Bose
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
>
> Kolbers,
> Well... add another 2 grand to the cost of the Kolbra but I will have the Bose
AR headsets or at least one in it.
Yesterday I got my first ride in Charleys RV8 and he has them in that plane. What
a difference they make! So if you want
to lose the noise and can drop a grand go for it! Worth every penny.
>
> Paul Petty
> Building Ms. Dixie
> Kolbra/912UL/Warp
> www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
>
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>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
Good grief! Dont you have any noise controls in the USA.?
> Here in theEurope we have to go to great lengths to REDUCE the noise from
> our a/c. Every engine/aircraft/propeller combination has to be measured
> according to laid down criteria and if you are too noisy, you don`t fly.
Thanks Pat!! Next time I fly over the vast wilderness of England I'll
muzzle my Hog. snuf
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Ultralights and experimentals are so rare around here that I feel a
little relief when I hear one come over. They are usually quieter
than some of the standard gen av planes. If they are just passing
through it's a short exposure, unlike having a cottage on a lake and
being forced to listen to some halfwit go around in circles on a
jetski...what's that all about? The interstate is near my house
and once in a while a flock of harleys will go by. A bit of noise
but they are soon gone....hey, it's their ears.
-BB do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 10/4/2004 2:27:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lynnp@c-gate.net writes:
Kolbers,
Well... add another 2 grand to the cost of the Kolbra but I will have the
Bose AR headsets or at least one in it. Yesterday I got my first ride in Charleys
RV8 and he has them in that plane. What a difference they make! So if you
want to lose the noise and can drop a grand go for it! Worth every penny.
Paul Petty
They probably won't be near as effective in your MkIII as in the RV-8. I
haven't found anything more effectivre than my LightSpeed QFR Crosscountry with
ANR at only about $300.
Try the Bose in your plane before you buy.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 10/4/2004 3:52:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, HShack@aol.com
writes:
They probably won't be near as effective in your MkIII as in the RV-8.
Sorry; Kolbra.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <lynnp@c-gate.net>
Thanks guys.
We will try Charleys out in the Kolbra first for sure. Also try any that have a
return policy. Thanks for the Lightspeed heads up.
Anyone know where I can get some checkerboard pinstripe say 1/2" wide?
Paul Petty
Building Ms. Dixie
Kolbra/912UL/Warp
www.c-gate.net/~ppetty
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I have a Headsets brand of ANR in my Sigtronics headset. They are sold as a
user installed kit that fits in most headsets. With my low RPM VW they work
super in fact they worked so well that I couldn't hear the engine go to
14,000 RPM when it self districted after the reduction drive failed. They
are $160 for the kit. I can't say they will work in a plane with a High RPM
engine but they work very well for me. There is only so much any ANR can do,
the higher frequencies waves happen faster than thy can be canceled.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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From: <HShack@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bose
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 10/4/2004 3:52:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> HShack@aol.com
> writes:
> They probably won't be near as effective in your MkIII as in the RV-8.
>
> Sorry; Kolbra.
>
> Howard Shackleford
> FS II
> SC
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
In the 50's I made a lot of short trips to England from my office in
Germany. Used to take walking trips from one teeny town to another, only
a couple or more miles--and a pub in each!
So I can see where you just about can't fly most anywhere there without
flying over some town or houses. But here, at 500' few people can hear
my 447, and at 1000' close to zero. Between today's traffic, mcs &
scooters, and the dang leaf blowers--an ultralight--even a fatty--isn't
noticed, or objected to.
Bob N, quite satisfied with The Land of The Free (mostly...)
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Paul,
There are two factors in noise reduction.
Passive and Active
Passive is mostly a matter of how much sound insulation the headset has and
Active is sound generated by the headset that in effect negates the sound.
The Lightspeed cross country is mostly passive, the 3G is mostly active.
It is hard to do both because of size constraints. The Bose is mostly active.
You will probably have better results with the passive in a 912S, try both.
Steve B
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> I don't believe that our aircraft's storage compartments have the capacity
> to carry the required parts to keep the HD's running. Also it is very
hard
> to find a place to pull over and work on them at 3000 feet.
Captain OTH, there's a two holer. snuf
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
The Lightspeed cross country is mostly passive, the 3G is mostly active. It
is hard to do both because of size constraints. The Bose is mostly active.
You will probably have better results with the passive in a 912S, try both.
Steve B
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--------------------
FWIW, I've been a huge fan of Lightspeed ANR headsets for years. I had a
20XL, and a 25XL in my RV-8 (Lycoming engine), and they were fantastic. I
also used them in other GA type planes, and they were just as good. When
the RV-8 was sold (with the 20XL), I traded the 25XL for a 30-3G.
The first time I tried the 30-3G it was in my rotary engine powered RV-3.
Unfortunately, the frequency and ambient noise level were so different from
normal GA planes, that it overwhelmed the active part of the headset. What I
got was popping and crackling, which was worse than turning them off. Back
they went to Lightspeed, and they "repaired" them. When I got them back,
they worked fine for a few flights, then started popping again. Once again,
Lightspeed worked on them, and said there was nothing wrong. The only way
they could make them reproduce my problem was if they turned up their test
rig to full volume. In other words, they said my engine was just too loud.
They did install the old, larger ear seals, and that did help. Around that
time, I also took the unmuffled turbo off the engine, and replaced it with a
muffler. That seems to have lowered the noise level to the point where the
30-3G headsets behaved fairly well, with only an occasional pop.
Now for the part anyone here might care about- I took these same headsets to
MS to use while flying back the 912S powered SS. Unfortunately, the noise
from that engine, in such close proximity to the pilots head is just too
much for them. They were popping and crackling about 3 times worse than
they had done with unmuffled turbo rotary. I finally turned off the active
part, because it was doing more harm than good.
I still like the Lightspeeds, but realize that they (and likely others) have
their limits. If anyone can suggest a good ANR headset that is known to
work with a 912S in a pusher design like the Kolb, I'll need a set by about
next Summer.
Cheers,
Rusty (ordered plans, manual, nose, and gear legs for the SS rebuild)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 10/4/2004 8:06:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, N27SB@aol.com
writes:
The Lightspeed cross country is mostly passive, the 3G is mostly active.
It is hard to do both because of size constraints. The Bose is mostly active.
You will probably have better results with the passive in a 912S, try both.
A few days ago, I indicated that if I were rich, I would own the LightSpeed
Thirty 3G instead of the QFRXCc, which I currently have. I based that
strictly on the product comparison on LightSpeed's website. The Thirty 3G [at
$650]
shows several db's better active noise reduction than the QFRXCc [at $379].
I was able to actually try the Thirty 3G last Saturday in my FS II. In no
way was it nearly as good as my cheaper set.
My friend, Chuck Reinert would like to sell his barely used Thirty 3G for
$400.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 10/4/2004 9:04:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
13brv3c@bellsouth.net writes:
I still like the Lightspeeds, but realize that they (and likely others) have
their limits. If anyone can suggest a good ANR headset that is known to
work with a 912S in a pusher design like the Kolb, I'll need a set by about
next Summer.
When we finish the rebuild of the Mk III float plane & 912ULS install, we'll
do a comparison of several headsets & report.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Maybe I'm repeating something already said before but here goes anyway:
The mike on an ANR takes the sound in from the front and the back and
cancels out the front. A tractor engined plane makes noise in the front
and you yak in the back....easy to separate. It has a little problem
with
a pusher since the noise is on the same side you are. Maybe I'm way
off on this but I'll find out next summer when I try mine out. This
year
I used a regular set of sporting goods store ear defenders since there
was nobody to talk to. A real pleasure.
Maybe if you tried some kind of a foam lip shield around the mike it
would
help. -BB do not archive
On 4, Oct 2004, at 9:03 PM, Rusty wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
>
> The Lightspeed cross country is mostly passive, the 3G is mostly
> active. It
> is hard to do both because of size constraints. The Bose is mostly
> active.
> You will probably have better results with the passive in a 912S, try
> both.
>
> Steve B
> do not archive
> --------------------
>
> FWIW, I've been a huge fan of Lightspeed ANR headsets for years. I
> had a
> 20XL, and a 25XL in my RV-8 (Lycoming engine), and they were
> fantastic. I
> also used them in other GA type planes, and they were just as good.
> When
> the RV-8 was sold (with the 20XL), I traded the 25XL for a 30-3G.
>
> The first time I tried the 30-3G it was in my rotary engine powered
> RV-3.
> Unfortunately, the frequency and ambient noise level were so different
> from
> normal GA planes, that it overwhelmed the active part of the headset.
> What I
> got was popping and crackling, which was worse than turning them off.
> Back
> they went to Lightspeed, and they "repaired" them. When I got them
> back,
> they worked fine for a few flights, then started popping again. Once
> again,
> Lightspeed worked on them, and said there was nothing wrong. The only
> way
> they could make them reproduce my problem was if they turned up their
> test
> rig to full volume. In other words, they said my engine was just too
> loud.
> They did install the old, larger ear seals, and that did help. Around
> that
> time, I also took the unmuffled turbo off the engine, and replaced it
> with a
> muffler. That seems to have lowered the noise level to the point
> where the
> 30-3G headsets behaved fairly well, with only an occasional pop.
>
> Now for the part anyone here might care about- I took these same
> headsets to
> MS to use while flying back the 912S powered SS. Unfortunately, the
> noise
> from that engine, in such close proximity to the pilots head is just
> too
> much for them. They were popping and crackling about 3 times worse
> than
> they had done with unmuffled turbo rotary. I finally turned off the
> active
> part, because it was doing more harm than good.
>
> I still like the Lightspeeds, but realize that they (and likely
> others) have
> their limits. If anyone can suggest a good ANR headset that is known
> to
> work with a 912S in a pusher design like the Kolb, I'll need a set by
> about
> next Summer.
>
> Cheers,
> Rusty (ordered plans, manual, nose, and gear legs for the SS rebuild)
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charles & Meredith Blackwell <wozani@optonline.net>
The USUA has posted some new dates and information received from the FAA if anyone
is interested, here is the link:
The FAA has revised and added more detail to their Sport Pilot Implementation Timeline. Please see our Sport Pilot page (http://www.usua.org/SportPilot/) for complete details.
Charlie, MKII in NJ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
Greetings,
Hi John, just got to see your pictures, very good job.
I'm stuck here in a hotel room in Kansas City and was hoping to see more
pictures of the Kolb fly-in.
Has anyone, who attended the homecoming, sent pictures to John Williamson so
he can post them on the list?
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: TNK Homecoming 2004 Photos
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> Fellow Kolbers,
>
> As you can see from my webpages, I had one perspective of the Fly-In. I
> would like to put together another page with photos from the rest of you
> that attended which will show some other perspectives.
>
> If you don't mind your photos being posted on the web, please send me your
> photos in a medium to high resolution (1000 to 2000 dpi) wide.
>
> Please send them to the following email address and include the word Kolb
in
> the subject line:
> kolbrapilot@comcast.net
>
> I will try and use as many as I can.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 682 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
> Zenith CH701 Project
> http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
> http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: ANR headsets |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hey Bob,
The Headsets, Inc. mod on my David Clark H-10-80's has a small mic in each
earpiece as well. I don't understand
how it all works, but it works well so far. I believe it uses the latest PFM technology
as well ;
) .
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ANR headsets
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
>
> Maybe I'm repeating something already said before but here goes anyway:
> The mike on an ANR takes the sound in from the front and the back and
> cancels out the front. (Snip)
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