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1. 03:03 AM - Re: Challengers (PATRICK LADD)
2. 03:10 AM - trailing edge (PATRICK LADD)
3. 03:30 AM - Re: Landing Challenger (PATRICK LADD)
4. 03:56 AM - Lucedale, Ms (Ted C)
5. 04:22 AM - Re: Reflections (russkinne)
6. 04:28 AM - Re: Tachometer w/double the rpm output (ul15rhb@juno.com)
7. 05:23 AM - Looking for Larry Gitt (al bumhoffer)
8. 05:57 AM - Re:Reflections (John Jung)
9. 06:18 AM - Re: Lucedale, Ms (John Cooley)
10. 07:28 AM - Re: Re:Reflections (possums)
11. 07:51 AM - Re: Re:Reflections (John Hauck)
12. 08:16 AM - Re: Re:Reflections (Larry Bourne)
13. 08:33 AM - Re: Re:Reflections (robert bean)
14. 08:45 AM - Re: trailing edge (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
15. 10:18 AM - Re: Reflections (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
16. 11:55 AM - Re: trailing edge (George E. Myers Jr.)
17. 01:32 PM - Re: trailing edge (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
18. 03:15 PM - Balloon tires on Firestar II (Larry Duncan)
19. 03:45 PM - Re: Balloon tires on Firestar II (John Hauck)
20. 04:38 PM - Fw: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in (bryan green)
21. 08:22 PM - Re: Re:Reflections (Larry Cottrell)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
<< I used the V/G's of shacks design on my Original Firestar>>
Thanks for the info. Collecting stuff like this before construction starts
is beginning to harden up my ideas.
I have already decided not to add the alloy sheet to the leading section of
the wing, and to drill a couple of extra holes in the actuators to try to
lighten the aileron load. Seems that VG`s is the next decision.
As for preferring the Kolb over the Challenger, I will let you know this
time next year, but the Challenger has looked after me well in all sorts of
situations where a less forgiving a/c might have dumped me.
It will be fun finding out.
Thanks
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi all,
someone on the list recently had used some material called `trailing edge` which
had eased the aileron heaviness.
Can you tell me if this was used INSTEAD of the Kolb supplied material or added
to the rear of the trailing edge just to improve the streamlining.
Thanks
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Challenger |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
<< Hope it is okay to share that one with you.>>
Hi Charlie,
I reckon sharing stories like these is important as that way perhaps we
learn something. In any case it is one of the delights of the list,
listening to other peoples experiences.
I am a member of a Jazz list and one of the high spots there is hearing
stories first hand from old top liners.
There is also a bit of what the Germans call `schadenfreud`, (I think), the
little bit of self satisfaction we all get from watching someone elses
potential misadventure.
Now, thinking about my own white knuckle ride in the quiet of my living room
I don`t know why I didn`t land into wind in an adjoining field. With luck I
could have made that more easily.
Its the `get home itis` syndrome which strikes and makes us take off to get
back when we should tie the plane down and wait. There was my strip and I
HAD to land on it. Stupid!
Cheers
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted C <trc1917@direcway.com>
Just wanted to let whoever wants to know that a bunch of our southern flyers group
out of florida are going to Lucedale and Bev and I also. Taking my lit'l
SlingShot and the RV. Leaving Wednesday morning and returning Sunday. Hope to
see all there this weekend. Drop by for hotdogs. Our lot in life is to feed
people. Would not miss it for the world. My baby is one year old this year.
Not in diapers any more. ted cowan, alabama.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russkinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
on 10/11/04 11:14 PM, Larry Cottrell at lcottrel@kfalls.net wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
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> : Monday, October 11, 2004 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Reflections
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>> | The reflections inside the full windshield were distracting
>> yesterday when I
>> | flew my used Firestar for the first time.
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>> | Anyone got any suggestions for getting rid of them? Um, without
>> taking the
>> | windshield to an optics lab.....
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> Just try to wear dark clothing, its the pants, shoes and socks that seem
> to cause most of mine.
> Larry
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It may be clumsy but a black sort of lap-robe should work.
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| Subject: | Re: Tachometer w/double the rpm output |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ul15rhb@juno.com
Bill,
Cut the wire on the tach and that will solve your problem. The same thing
happened on mine.
Ralph
Original Firestar
447 Ducati single ignition
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:29:10 EDT WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
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> Can anyone help here?
>
> I have a Rotax 447 with Ducati single ignition.
>
> I purchased a tachometer from Aircraft Spruce, specifying this
> engine and
> ignition setup. The tach I received has the following id on the
> box: part number
> TA023, 3 1/8" Tach 8000 RPM Dual. The tach has a user modification
> for
> single or dual ignition, which is a small wire loop on the back.
> The diagram that
> came with it says for single ign., keep the wire loop intact. For
> dual ign.,
> cut the wire loop.
>
> I connected the gray wire and a ground wire from the engine per
> Rotax wiring
> instructions. Since I have single ign., I did not cut the wire
> loop. But
> during operation, the tach appears to be indicating double the RPM
> (ie, at idle
> of about 2000 it shows 4000+) and with any increase in RPM, about
> half
> throttle, maybe 3500 RPM, the tach goes to the limit of 8000.
>
> I called Aircraft Spruce for advice and they referred me to the
> manufacturer
> (who I believe is just an importer/distributor because the tach is
> made in
> China), a company named Walltrube? The fellow I spoke to didn't
> have a clue.
> The box also has information stamped on it saying 916A Tach 3 1/8"
> Universal and
> another # T3-001U. So far, I am inclined to think that this tach is
>
> Universal, in that it may be used for either Points or Ducati ign.
> and the user
> modification of cutting the wire changes it from single to dual
> ign.
>
> I guess I'll cut the wire to see if that corrects the reading, but
> it may be
> hard to reconnect because it is very small and short, so I'll wait
> to see if
> anyone has a suggestion as to why I might be getting the double RPM
> output
> reading.
>
> Bill Varnes
> Original FireStar
> Audubon, NJ
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| Subject: | Looking for Larry Gitt |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: al bumhoffer <abumhoffer@yahoo.com>
Larry Gitt, please contact me off list about that
helmet you have.
Al Bumhoffer, Firestar II
Elkton, MI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
David and Group,
Here is what I did to minimise the problem of
reflections: I painted the dash and about everthing
else in the cockpit flat black and added black
carpeting. I also wear a black jacket in cool weather.
All this works well. But last spring, at Monument
Valley, I carried my camera on a photographic flight,
and not thinking, wore a white T-shirt. The
reflections of that T-shirt ruined more than half my
photos.
John Jung
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Ted,
That's great. I'll take you up on the hotdog deal. How about Mike Highsmith
and Jim Holbrook(?) Have you heard from them. Always enjoy their company
too.
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Later,
John Cooley
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ted C
Subject: Kolb-List: Lucedale, Ms
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted C <trc1917@direcway.com>
Just wanted to let whoever wants to know that a bunch of our southern flyers
group out of florida are going to Lucedale and Bev and I also. Taking my
lit'l SlingShot and the RV. Leaving Wednesday morning and returning Sunday.
Hope to see all there this weekend. Drop by for hotdogs. Our lot in life
is to feed people. Would not miss it for the world. My baby is one year
old this year. Not in diapers any more. ted cowan, alabama.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 08:57 AM 10/12/2004, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
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>David and Group,
>
>Here is what I did to minimise the problem of
>reflections: I painted the dash and about everthing
>else in the cockpit flat black and added black
>carpeting. I also wear a black jacket
http://possums.photosite.com/Black/
I did the same thing - because of the pictures
and also because I don't like to see the
reflections. Everything forward of the seat
cross bar is flat black. Also have a hood over my
instrument panel and put fabric on the inside side panels
front of the cross bar - also painted black.
Don't wear light colored pants or light colored
long sleeve shirts. Also wear a black glove on my
right hand. But when it's hot I take the windshield off
- lots of fun that way.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Don't wear light colored pants or light colored
| long sleeve shirts. Also wear a black glove on my
| right hand. But when it's hot I take the windshield off
| - lots of fun that way. Possum
Possum/Gang:
What do you do when you fly naked?
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
He only does that when he and the FireStar are going swimming. :-)
Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Reflections
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
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> Possum/Gang:
>
> What do you do when you fly naked?
>
> john h
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> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Speaking of swimming... has TNK arrived at a pricetag for their MkIII
amphibious
floats? They sure look like an attractive option. I'd have to dig the
floor down
in my shed to fit it in though. -BB do not archive
On 12, Oct 2004, at 11:16 AM, Larry Bourne wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> He only does that when he and the FireStar are going swimming. :-)
> Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Reflections
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>>
>>
>> | Don't wear light colored pants or light colored
>> | long sleeve shirts. Also wear a black glove on my
>> | right hand. But when it's hot I take the windshield off
>> | - lots of fun that way. Possum
>>
>> Possum/Gang:
>>
>> What do you do when you fly naked?
>>
>> john h
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: trailing edge |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Pat
Yes the trailing edge material is used instead of the 5/16 .035 tubing.
Note! This stuff weighs 12 oz per ten feet and 5/16 weighs 5 oz per ten feet
so you will need the aileron balance weights. It is called "Trailing Edge"
part number 03-48900 at Aircraft Spruce. It is stronger and eliminates the
scalloping you see on the trailing edge of most Kolbs. I do feel that my
controls are lighter but I don't have any way of measuring the difference.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: trailing edge
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Hi all,
> someone on the list recently had used some material called `trailing edge`
> which had eased the aileron heaviness.
> Can you tell me if this was used INSTEAD of the Kolb supplied material or
> added to the rear of the trailing edge just to improve the streamlining.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I have gotten so that I don't see the reflections in my full enclosure MKIII
while I'm flying. I do see those reflections in all my photos. I took a
short photography class and the instructor suggested the following, lock the
focus at infinity, set the exposure to under expose at least one stop, use a
polarizing filter to eliminate the reflections, and a UV filter to reduce
the haze. I ordered the filters and will try these things when my airplane
is flying again.
It looks like the 1st snow will get here before I get in the air again but
hopefully I will be flying before all the fall colors are gone. AND
definitely before Lar.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Reflections
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| Subject: | Re: trailing edge |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers Jr." <gmyers@corridor.net>
How is the trailing edge attached. Possums posted some photos that looked
like they were welded on.
George
At 10-12-2004, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
><NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
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>Pat
George E. Myers Jr.
San Marcos Tx.
http://geohome.sytes.net
gmyers@corridor.net
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| Subject: | Re: trailing edge |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
The trailing edges are attached with pop rivets. The trailing edge material
is shaped somewhat like a V spread the V slip the ribs part way in and
rivet.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "George E. Myers Jr." <gmyers@corridor.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: trailing edge
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Myers Jr."
> <gmyers@corridor.net>
>
> How is the trailing edge attached. Possums posted some photos that looked
> like they were welded on.
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| Subject: | Balloon tires on Firestar II |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Larry Duncan <lariardo@centurytel.net>
I am looking for an easy solution to what I thought would be a easy
modification. I have a 98 vintage Firestar that I purchased used. I
just started soloing the plane about a month ago. I have no general
aviation experience so it took a lot of instruction to get to this
point. Anyway, I am enjoying the Kolb and am thankful that the local
Ultralight EAA chapter ( 115 ) advised to start with a Firestar. It is
a very nice flyer compared to my instructors plane. I have made several
changes and there is just one last project I would like to complete. I
bought a set of Azusa Cast 6X4 wheels and 18 / 800 X 6 balloon tires. I
will always work off of grass and want something that will be forgiving
if I get a tire in a rough field. I have 4 1/2" drum brakes. The
Firestar 5/8" axle has a flange welded onto it to mount the brakes. The
standard wheels are wheelbarrow type. The new cast wheels are about an
inch too wide to fit on the axles. I could get them to work if I took
the brakes off but don't want to do that. The vendor said that the
Azusa plastic wheels would work but he didn't recommend them with the
balloon tires because the bearings could not take it. I called Kolb and
they can send me the axle and the flange separately so that I could weld
the flange so that the cast wheels will fit but the axles have to be
heat treated after welding. That would be a long drawn out procedure to
do all the sending back and forth and waiting. Has anyone put big tires
on a Firestar before? Is there a simple solution? Thanks for your
help. Larry Duncan in Mountain Home, AR.
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| Subject: | Re: Balloon tires on Firestar II |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Has anyone put big tires
| on a Firestar before? Is there a simple solution? Thanks for your
| help. Larry Duncan in Mountain Home, AR.
Hi Larry/Gang:
Some years ago I tried 800X6 tires on my original Firestar. I felt
they were a little too much and replaced them with 15.00X6X6's. The
15.00X6X6's did a good job for me.
I never heat treated any axles on my FS. If by chance I bent them
enough to require realignment, it was readily done by bending the back
to the point they were supposed to be using a 6' piece of galvanized
water pipe that would slip over the axle after the gear leg and axle
were placed on something to block it up. This system worked great.
Take care,
john h
PS: Some of us are running 8.00X6's on our MKIII Classsics and
Kolbras with good success. However, the best tires, I have found, are
aircraft tires and not the ones sold by the UL parts houses. The
McCreary Airtracs are trued and balanced prior to leaving the factory.
They are also rated for 120 mph. The garden shop variety are not
trued or balanced and are for slow speed off road only.
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| Subject: | Fw: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall |
Fly-in
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Davis
Subject: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in
Note: forwarded message attached.
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Bishopville,SC
Carolina Sport Flyers
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Reflections
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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> Possum/Gang:
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> What do you do when you fly naked?
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
We can only hope that he doesn't take any pictures, it could be a bad
reflection on all of us!
Larry
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