Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:15 AM - Ski's (James, Ken)
2. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Fly-in Photos (James, Ken)
3. 05:50 AM - 5 Rib FireStar Wings (kkorenek@comcast.net)
4. 05:51 AM - Re: Challengers (Thom Riddle)
5. 06:05 AM - Re: 5 Rib FireStar Wings (ron wehba)
6. 06:32 AM - Re: Ski's (Dan Charter)
7. 07:17 AM - Re: SKYBOY (Denny Rowe)
8. 07:21 AM - Re: Powder Coating 6061-T6 Alum. (Wm2335@aol.com)
9. 07:31 AM - Re: 5 Rib FireStar Wings (kkorenek@comcast.net)
10. 08:16 AM - New Ivoprop for sale (Richard Pike)
11. 08:36 AM - Kolb Landings (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
12. 09:43 AM - FSII for Sale (Jon Croke)
13. 10:17 AM - Re: 5 Rib FireStar Wings (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
14. 02:36 PM - Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo (Richard Swiderwski)
15. 04:18 PM - Del Cross info needed! (Timandjan@aol.com)
16. 04:50 PM - 912 Powerfin Porp FS (Giovanni Day)
17. 06:19 PM - Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo (herbgh@juno.com)
18. 06:33 PM - Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo (John Hauck)
19. 07:46 PM - Left Side Flaperon Control for FireFly (Jack & Louise Hart)
20. 08:07 PM - Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo (GeoR38@aol.com)
21. 08:15 PM - Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo (GeoR38@aol.com)
22. 08:49 PM - Futrell (GeoR38@aol.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
FYI
Couple of threads ago someone was asking about ski for a Kolb, Just saw
ski's on ebay, for a Kolb
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Fly-in Photos |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Gene
I have the wings and tail of a MKIII X and finishing details before buying
Kit two ( need more money :-)
It would be great to meet another local pilot and have someone look over my
shoulder and my kit and maybe bum a ride or two :-)
any and all can contact me at this site or info below
Ken James
Drafting Design Technology Instructor
Berks Career and Technology Center
East Campus
3307 Friedensburg Rd.
Oley, Pa. 19506
610-987-6201 Ext. 3532
Kdjames@berkscareer.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Zimmerman [mailto:eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com]
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Fly-in Photos
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman
<eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Hi Tom,
Welcome to the Kolb list.
This list is probably the best group of Kolb builders and owners you are
going to fine anywhere. It is your most helpful source of information
along with the factory about anything relating to Kolb aircraft.
As concerning a reliable comparison of the Kolb's vs. competitive
aircraft, I am not aware of any attempts to officially objectively
compare various ultralight/sport aircraft. Of course pilots have been
comparing and competing their planes since the Wright Bros. The mags.
give flight reports on various planes and Kolb has always had good
reviews but I have never seen an actual comparison.
Kolb enjoys stellar reputation in the ultralight/sport aircraft
community. Kolb planes may not be the best at everything but they are
outstanding in everything and unexcelled in some things. For example,
All Kolb planes are unexcelled in their ease to fold the wings for
storage saving many owners tons of money on hanger rent fees.
Kolb planes enjoy an excellent reputation for short take off and steep
climbs and along with their short landing capability. Their responsive
controls are an industry standard of comparison.
I have been flying Kolb planes since 1982, let me see thats 22
years,(wow! and I aint old yet) and I have not been disappointed with
them ever.
Im not sure about a Mark III owner near Allentown but dont be
surprised if someone takes you up on your offer.
How about it folks any body near Allentown PA with a Mark III?
Gene
Tom O'Hara wrote:
> Gene-- I got your email from the photos that you had placed on the net
> regarding the Kolb fly-in. I have been flying for some 40+ years and
> actually grew up in Oshkosh. The last 22 years flying has been a
> commercial ticket for LTA. However, lighter than air is heavy as hell
> and my back is turning 58 next week! Have been considering trading the
> balloon in for an ultra light/sport and the Kolb Mark III extra kind of
> caught my eye.
>
> Haven't found the factory to be very responsive- although haven't tried
> to get too much info from them. However, is there an owners group and
> listing where I might find an owner near Allentown, PA? Would consider
> trading some Kolb time for some balloon time. Is there a reliable
> comparison of the Kolb's vs. competitive aircraft? How long have you
> been flying a Kolb-- and your opinions?? You know all the normal stuff
> one needs to know both pro/con
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Tom O'Hara
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| Subject: | 5 Rib FireStar Wings |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: kkorenek@comcast.net
Kolbers:
I have a really nice set of 5 rib Firestar wings just setting in my hangar and
I am about to stuff 'em in the dumpster.
They've got less than 30 hours on 'em and were built by Brian back when he was
Lightspeed Aviation.
Gotta' get rid of 'em one way or the other- they're in the way!
Somebody make me an offer!
Ken Korenek
Arlington, Texas
Kolbers:
I have a really nice set of 5 rib Firestar wings just setting in my hangar and
I am about to stuff 'em in the dumpster.
They've got less than 30 hours on 'em and were built by Brian back when he was
Lightspeed Aviation.
Gotta' get rid of 'em one way or the other- they're in the way!
Somebody make me an offer!
Ken Korenek
Arlington, Texas
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
I have experience in only one Kolb, the early Firestar, and none of these things
you mentioned that others warn of seem to apply to this airplane. I have been
a GA pilot since 1966, flying Piper Cubs to Mooneys and just got into UL types
three years ago. I found the transition to UL types to be a non issue, this
includes owning a Zenith CH701, early Firestar, and Titan Tornado, in that order.
I've also flown a Flightstar II (underpowered), a Fergy II (poor imitation
of a Kolb Mk II), Challenger once (was enough), and a Hawk (nice but not a Kolb).
The early FireStar is a piece of cake to fly with no bad habits in the air.
The well known nose over tendency is the only "gotcha" which can be avoided
with a little knowledge and experience, and nearly eliminated with longer gear
legs.
How other Kolbs fly is unknown to me from personal experience. However, unless
a pilot has flown several different types of aircraft, his credibility in comparing
aircraft handling characteristics may be suspect. A pilot with experience
in many kinds of aircraft(including those you know well) plus the kind you are
building is the best source for flying and ground handling comparison.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: 5 Rib FireStar Wings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
interested in a trade, what do you need, parts, plans ect or $.gotta go now
i'll check email this afternoon,over to the west in sweetwater
----- Original Message -----
From: <kkorenek@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: 5 Rib FireStar Wings
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: kkorenek@comcast.net
>
> Kolbers:
>
> I have a really nice set of 5 rib Firestar wings just setting in my hangar
and I am about to stuff 'em in the dumpster.
>
> They've got less than 30 hours on 'em and were built by Brian back when he
was Lightspeed Aviation.
>
> Gotta' get rid of 'em one way or the other- they're in the way!
>
>
> Somebody make me an offer!
>
> Ken Korenek
> Arlington, Texas
>
> Kolbers:
>
> I have a really nice set of 5 rib Firestar wings just setting in my hangar
and I am about to stuff 'em in the dumpster.
>
> They've got less than 30 hours on 'em and were built by Brian back when he
was Lightspeed Aviation.
>
> Gotta' get rid of 'em one way or the other- they're in the way!
>
>
> Somebody make me an offer!
>
> Ken Korenek
> Arlington, Texas
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Charter" <lndc@fnbcnet.com>
My ski's should be done this weekend. They are from a design my flying buddy
uses on his Himax. I had to wait for the countersunk rivets to get here.
I'll have pics if anybody needs them. I'm using 3/16 UHMW for the bottoms
and an aluminum body. The snow will start this weekend. Do not archive.
Dan Charter FS 1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Ski's
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
>
> FYI
>
> Couple of threads ago someone was asking about ski for a Kolb, Just saw
> ski's on ebay, for a Kolb
>
> Ken
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
> Just bought an old wrecked CGS HAWK for a rebuild this
> winter...right after the Agcat (business first ), Stinson L5,and 2 Cassutt
> Racers ......suppose to be a long winter....may get them finished if the
> winter lasts into 2006 and it sounds like it may.
> And for all you young guys joking about us seniors
> ...........Youth is wasted on the young!
>
> Ed in Western NY
Ed,
Sounds like you're living my dream retirement!
Denny Rowe
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Powder Coating 6061-T6 Alum. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Wm2335@aol.com
I too have had concerns over powdercoating 6061-T6. However, after 33 years
in auto collision and painting, I checked with local Gulfstream engineers.
The powdercoating process must not exceed 325 degrees for over a 30 minute
period. I agree that this will change the properties of the aluminum.
Wife retired after 28 years of Corporate Aviation....thus easy access to VERY
knowledgeable persons....LOL.
Kolbra 4 building....
Wayne McCullough
EAA 330
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| Subject: | Re: 5 Rib FireStar Wings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: kkorenek@comcast.net
Will trade for $$ !! ;>)
Ken
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba"
>
> interested in a trade, what do you need, parts, plans ect or $.gotta go now
> i'll check email this afternoon,over to the west in sweetwater
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Subject: Kolb-List: 5 Rib FireStar Wings
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: kkorenek@comcast.net
> >
> > Kolbers:
> >
> > I have a really nice set of 5 rib Firestar wings just setting in my hangar
> and I am about to stuff 'em in the dumpster.
> >
> > They've got less than 30 hours on 'em and were built by Brian back when he
> was Lightspeed Aviation.
> >
> > Gotta' get rid of 'em one way or the other- they're in the way!
> >
> >
> > Somebody make me an offer!
> >
> > Ken Korenek
> > Arlington, Texas
> >
> > Kolbers:
> >
> > I have a really nice set of 5 rib Firestar wings just setting in my hangar
> and I am about to stuff 'em in the dumpster.
> >
> > They've got less than 30 hours on 'em and were built by Brian back when he
> was Lightspeed Aviation.
> >
> > Gotta' get rid of 'em one way or the other- they're in the way!
> >
> >
> > Somebody make me an offer!
> >
> > Ken Korenek
> > Arlington, Texas
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Will trade for $$ !! ;)
Ken
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <RWEHBA@COX.NET>
interested in a trade, what do you need, parts, plans ect or $.gotta go now
i'll check email this afternoon,over to the west in sweetwater
----- Original Message -----
From: <KKORENEK@COMCAST.NET>
To: <KOLB-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Subject: Kolb-List: 5 Rib FireStar Wings
-- Kolb-List message posted by: kkorenek@comcast.net
Kolbers:
I have a really nice set of 5 rib Firestar wings just setting in my hangar
and I am about to stuff 'em in the dumpster.
They've got less than 30 hours on 'em and were built by Brian back when he
was Lightspeed Aviation.
G
otta' get rid of 'em one way or the other- they're in the way!
Somebody make me an offer!
Ken Korenek
Arlington, Texas
Kolbers:
I have a really nice set of 5 rib Firestar wings just setting in my hangar
and I am about to stuff 'em in the dumpster.
They've got less than 30 hours on 'em and were built by Brian back when he
was Lightspeed Aviation.
Gotta' get rid of 'em one way or the other- they're in the way!
Somebody make me an offer!
Ken Korenek
Arlington, Texas
ugh the Contributions
onics.com/photoshare
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| Subject: | New Ivoprop for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
The FSII we bought came with a new 3 blade 62" Ivo Prop. That is the ideal
prop for a 503, but since we have changed to a 582, it is a bit small. It
includes the hub extension to get it further away from the trailing edge,
and the mounting bolts. The whole bit is worth $550, I'll take $425.
Contact me off-list.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
FSII N582EF
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
PATRICK LADD: << Which brings me to the scare stories on this list about
landing the Kolb. >>
John Hauck: << People who have difficulty landing Kolbs are low time
inexperienced pilots. They may have thousands of hours in "other" type
aircraft, but not much in Kolbs. >>
Richard Neilsen: << Some models have weak landing gear legs but the primary
cause of bent gear legs is that people are used to General Aviation
Aircraft. If Kolbs weren't draggy STOL airplanes with a very light weight
(little inertia) they would do this also. >>
Patrick -
John and Richard are referring to new Kolb pilots like me - what they say is
entirely accurate ... for my experience, anyway. I bent BOTH landing gear
legs on my Mark-III on my very first flight (Sep 02). All my previous
flying was in Cessnas, Citabrias and TriPacers. I got too slow on final,
and my Kolb stopped flying when I was still 8 feet above the runway.
(yowch!) But the good news is: That learning experience only cost me $75
(pair of new gear legs) and a dent in my pride. Splay the landing gear in a
Cessna and you're looking at a $5000 repair bill! There was no damage to my
gear sockets, which speaks volumes to the structural integrity of the Kolb
steel cage, and the fact that the gear legs act like a fuse - they'll bend
before other structure gets damaged.
After the incicent, I went to TNK, got a few hours of dual in thier MK-3
Extra demonstrator, and came home a proper Kolb pilot. Getting used to the
low-inertia and high-drag of these Kolbs on landing was all I needed.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, Verner-powered in
Cedar Crest, NM
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
Greetings...
The buyer for my Firestar failed to get his purchase monies together after
several months (!) so my plane is back on the market.
I am selling it because of another plane project that awaits completion.
I think I am offering an excellent price for a factory quickbuilt in good
condition.. I would love to sell it before winter is upon us... I will not
'give' it away... but am definitely a 'motivated' buyer, as I would love to
finish my other plane. Someone will be getting an excellent deal! Also, do
not forget that the Rotax exchange program for the 503 is available til the
end of the year (not that there is aything wrong with my engine, but it does
offer yet another option to obtain a brand new engine at a good price!)
In a nutshell: 1995 Firestar II factory quickbuild from the 'original'
Kolb (Dennis S), 503 DCDI with 180 hrs (decarboned and re sealed at 125hrs),
electric start, IVO 3 blade, hydraulic brakes, full enclosure, stits
professionally covered by Kolb, custom open trailer, tundra tires.
Half dozen photos and more details at www.JonCroke.com then click on picture
for more pictures
What I learned from first buyer that fell thru: first come, first served...
no 'holding'....(unless you buy it!) If you want to make an offer, just
ask... worse case I would only say no, thanks! But, even if I accept your
offer, until you show up, check it out, and pay, the plane is still
available!
Will be happy to answer all questions, either email (direct) or phone,
please visit website before asking questions!
If I were richer man, I would not let this plane go... but I'm not
complaining... can't sleep in 2 beds, can't fly 2 planes!
Jon
Brussels, Wisconsin (90mi NE of Oshkosh)
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| Subject: | Re: 5 Rib FireStar Wings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Are the wings covered? I really dont know what to offer you and I dont want
to make you mad, have you got any pictures of them and some kind of idea
what the shipping would be
Ellery
Batchelder
Original Firestar KX
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| Subject: | Sebring Sport Aviation Expo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Beauford,
You sure hit the nail on the head with your assessment of Sun & Fun.
I remember when it was a forum for grassroot experimenters. EAA has caved
into Big Money. All their talk about grassroot aviation seems to me to be
empty words. I still go, but the cost is becoming legal extortion & the
focus becoming more heavy metal aircraft & high price accessories. There
still is some pearls to be found in the forum area.
I got word that some grassroot effort is trying to startup at Deland
FL the same weekend as Sebring. Their website is www.delandairjamboree.org
doesn't say much but I heard their mail flyer was pushing a
free(donation)/low cost/family environment with bluegrass music & catering
to sport & UL aircraft. Richard Swiderski
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Duane et.al...
Am definitely planning to be over there, but not before Saturday, 30 Oct...
Had originally hoped for the 29th, but my accomplice had to delay his flight
into Tampa by one day. I have no idea how the place is going to be laid-out
over there, but will try to get some idea of it so that maybe we can arrange
to meet somewhere at a certain time if the rest of you gents want to try and
do that.
BTW, there is an article about the EXPO on page 10 of the new Sport Pilot
mag for October... Sez the event will be a significant "hands-on information
source" to bring together all of the suppliers and customers interested in
LSA and the Sport Pilot bit.... Sez also that, due to the unexpected
demand, they have had to increase the EXPO exhibit spaces from 70 to 105,
and that no less than His Excellency Lord Tom Poberezny himself is going to
lead a reinforced gaggle of EAA royalty to the big event... Admission is to
be $8 a day for EAA members, and $10 for non-member heathen... If the EAA
gets its paws into this operation, I'm sure it won't take long for 'em to
run it on up to the $25 a day we have all come to know and love at
Lakeland.... and the place will come to be overrun with $200K airplanes and
slick lookin' dudes in monogrammed polyester jump suits, gold chains and
Porsche sunglasses... and they will hasten to remove all the water
drinking fountains and open up numerous EAA stands selling $4 bottles of
water and $5 hot dogs.... sigh....
Am I starting to sound a tad bitter...? naaaaah... couldn't be.... time
to crawl back into my garbage can....
Beauford
FF#076
Brandon, FL
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
> I am making plans to drive to Sebring on the 28th or 29th of Oct. 'Looks
> like it's going to be a major event. Hope to see George Randolph, Richard
> Swiderski, Beauford T., Steve Boetto et al while I am there. How's about
> it
> guys ?
>
> Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912, 12 hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Del Cross info needed! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
Hi all,
My father in law has become friends with Del in the last few years and he
bought a original Kolb like his and rebuilt it. He recently flew it for the first
time after a total rebuild. He met Del years back and after speaking to him
and finding this plane through Del he bought it to tinker with. He has been
flying and building for years. Likes my Kolb and thought it would be fun.
Anyways, he finally flew it for the first time a few weeks back and bought a
new crank for the Solo engines from Del, I spoke to him the other night and he
told me about the recent purchase and said he was going to call him tonight.
I told him the bad news (I was hoping I could avoid it but with the emminant
phone call to his wife I needed to say something)
Anyways, my long winded question is does anybody have more information about
his accident. My father in law is asking?
Thanks, Tim Firestar2 250 hours.
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| Subject: | 912 Powerfin Porp FS |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Fellow Kolb Lovers,
I though I would keep the PF that got nicked and use it as a climb prop
to alternate with my Warp. Well I want to buy a new exhaust and need to
sell it. I need another $400 to buy the exhaust I am wanting so it is FS
at that price. It has a small repairable nick 6" from the tip on one
blade. It has 4 hours on it. Photos on request. Contact me off list.
Giovanni
MKIII/912 80566
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
Richard and all
I have said for some years now that a deserted air base in the mid
west or a friendly strip with lots of parking and camping space--say Mo.
. Ill. or Kansas, would make an ideal spot for a non sanctioned flyin.
Gathering of Eagles sort of thing. Trying to hit a good week of weather
in the mid west might be a problem however? :-) Seems to me that the UL
organizations would want to get together and do such a thing! The swans
go to San Juan Capistrano and the Harleys go to Sturgis in South
Dakota(north?) so where do the eagles go?? :-)
Waiting for the weather to improve to test fly the Firefly. Hopefully
Sunday. Pics of the Fireflys Mountain Bike brakes can be sent to those
who are interested.
I do not mean to forget, that with all of its ills and seeming greed of
a few, the EAA has done a good job representing the interest of
Experimental Aviation to the FAA.
I would not and have never attended the two major flyins. I can get my
jollies just as well at local flyins. PLUUUS--Bruce feeds and allows us
to camp out for free!!! :-) Frugal Herb in Ky
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:35:25 -0400 "Richard Swiderwski"
<rswiderski@earthlink.net> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski"
> <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
>
> Beauford,
>
> You sure hit the nail on the head with your assessment of
> Sun & Fun.
> I remember when it was a forum for grassroot experimenters. EAA has
> caved
> into Big Money. All their talk about grassroot aviation seems to me
> to be
> empty words. I still go, but the cost is becoming legal extortion &
> the
> focus becoming more heavy metal aircraft & high price accessories.
> There
> still is some pearls to be found in the forum area.
> I got word that some grassroot effort is trying to startup
> at Deland
> FL the same weekend as Sebring. Their website is
> www.delandairjamboree.org
> doesn't say much but I heard their mail flyer was pushing a
> free(donation)/low cost/family environment with bluegrass music &
> catering
> to sport & UL aircraft. Richard Swiderski
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford"
> <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Duane et.al...
> Am definitely planning to be over there, but not before Saturday, 30
> Oct...
> Had originally hoped for the 29th, but my accomplice had to delay
> his flight
>
> into Tampa by one day. I have no idea how the place is going to be
> laid-out
>
> over there, but will try to get some idea of it so that maybe we can
> arrange
>
> to meet somewhere at a certain time if the rest of you gents want to
> try and
>
> do that.
>
> BTW, there is an article about the EXPO on page 10 of the new Sport
> Pilot
> mag for October... Sez the event will be a significant "hands-on
> information
>
> source" to bring together all of the suppliers and customers
> interested in
> LSA and the Sport Pilot bit.... Sez also that, due to the unexpected
>
> demand, they have had to increase the EXPO exhibit spaces from 70 to
> 105,
> and that no less than His Excellency Lord Tom Poberezny himself is
> going to
> lead a reinforced gaggle of EAA royalty to the big event...
> Admission is to
>
> be $8 a day for EAA members, and $10 for non-member heathen... If
> the EAA
> gets its paws into this operation, I'm sure it won't take long for
> 'em to
> run it on up to the $25 a day we have all come to know and love at
> Lakeland.... and the place will come to be overrun with $200K
> airplanes and
> slick lookin' dudes in monogrammed polyester jump suits, gold chains
> and
> Porsche sunglasses... and they will hasten to remove all the
> water
> drinking fountains and open up numerous EAA stands selling $4
> bottles of
> water and $5 hot dogs.... sigh....
>
> Am I starting to sound a tad bitter...? naaaaah... couldn't
> be.... time
>
> to crawl back into my garbage can....
>
> Beauford
> FF#076
> Brandon, FL
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo
> >
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
> >
> > I am making plans to drive to Sebring on the 28th or 29th of Oct.
> 'Looks
> > like it's going to be a major event. Hope to see George Randolph,
> Richard
> > Swiderski, Beauford T., Steve Boetto et al while I am there. How's
> about
> > it
> > guys ?
> >
> > Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912, 12 hrs
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|Seems to me that the UL
| organizations would want to get together and do such a thing! The
swans
| go to San Juan Capistrano and the Harleys go to Sturgis in South
| Dakota(north?) so where do the eagles go?? :-)
Frugal Herb in Ky
Herb/Gang:
The eagles go to Monument Valley, Utah, each year in May. We had our
"second annual, unplanned, unorganized Kolb flyin" last May. It, like
the first one, was a total success. Ask anyone who attended.
The air is clean, clear, and all the support for flyin folks is right
there at Gouldins. No extraneous BS. Just Kolbs, flying, eating, and
more Kolbs. I eagerly await next years "third annual unplanned,
unorganized Kolb flying".
Take care,
john h
PS: Got the camping gear out on the living room floor. Getting my
clothes and other stuff together to fly to Lucedale, MS, for the
flyin. Miss P'fer flew today, for the first time in over a month.
Didn't realize how long it had been until I checked my log book. Test
flight went well, repairs really stiffened up the lower tailpost. She
stalled, with 20 gals of fuel on board, at 40 clean, 35 with 20 deg of
flaps, and 33 with 40 deg. Not bad for that weight. Think I need
some of those vortex generators? Might help tote that 10 lb tail
wheel around. :-)
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| Subject: | Left Side Flaperon Control for FireFly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
FireFlyers,
I finished installing a continuosly variable flaperon control on the
FireFly. It is made from a modified heavy duty camera tripod elevation
mechanism. The control handle is located on the left side behind the rear
seat cross tube. I can reach it by dropping my hand from the throttle down
through the gap between the seat and the left side of the fuselage. Since
one cannot see it, I have mounted a flaperon position indicator on the
instrument panel.
It seems to work well. Currently, at the zero setting the flaperons seem to
be a little bit re flexed. This is indicated by excessive stick movement
before one can pick up a wing. As the flaperons are extended, this slop
goes away and if one moves the stick even the smallest amount, the FireFly
rolls quickly. I need to lengthen the aileron push rod tubes a little.
The new system can be seen at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly116.html
It has taken some time to get this done, but now I will be able record stall
speed and elevator angles during 50 mphi final landing approaches for given
flaperon settings. Also, I should be able to test roll stability during cross
wind take off and landings with increasing flaperon deployment, and to find the
best flaperon position for take off and landing the FireFly in the three
point configuration. This is going to be fun and it will be great to adjust
the flaperons with my right hand on the
stick.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 10/14/2004 9:30:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rswiderski@earthlink.net writes:
Hey Duane,
I won't be going to Sebring, but I'd sure like to. I'm 2 miles off
I-75 so give me a call as you are passing by & maybe I could fix you up with
a cup of coffee and a short break. 352-307-9009. ...Richard
Swiderski
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H MITCHELL
Subject: Kolb-List: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
I am making plans to drive to Sebring on the 28th or 29th of Oct. 'Looks
like it's going to be a major event. Hope to see George Randolph, Richard
Swiderski, Beauford T., Steve Boetto et al while I am there. How's about it
guys ?
Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912, 12 hrs
Hey Rich, give me a call, too, if Mitch contacts you and i'll be right
over....btw, I ordered the tail wheel shaft today...should be here mo skosh
according to Travis, It is aluminum instead of fiberglas....$20...sounds good to
me
yer bud
George Randolph
firestar driver in The Villages
ps...pres Bush is to be here tues...watch for me on TV in a crowd of 20,000
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| Subject: | Re: Sebring Sport Aviation Expo |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 10/14/2004 10:27:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes:
BTW, there is an article about the EXPO on page 10 of the new Sport Pilot
mag for October... Sez the event will be a significant "hands-on information
source" to bring together all of the suppliers and customers interested in
LSA and the Sport Pilot bit.... Sez also that, due to the unexpected
demand, they have had to increase the EXPO exhibit spaces from 70 to 105,
and that no less than His Excellency Lord Tom Poberezny himself is going to
lead a reinforced gaggle of EAA royalty to the big event... Admission is to
be $8 a day for EAA members, and $10 for non-member heathen... If the EAA
gets its paws into this operation, I'm sure it won't take long for 'em to
run it on up to the $25 a day we have all come to know and love at
Lakeland.... and the place will come to be overrun with $200K airplanes and
slick lookin' dudes in monogrammed polyester jump suits, gold chains and
Porsche sunglasses... and they will hasten to remove all the water
drinking fountains and open up numerous EAA stands selling $4 bottles of
water and $5 hot dogs.... sigh....
Am I starting to sound a tad bitter...? naaaaah... couldn't be....
time
to crawl back into my garbage can....
Beauford
FF#076
Brandon, FL
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Of course I agree with you 100% Butcher, as I always do....boy wouldn't it
be great if we could get water to be only.....say....$1.00 a bottle at SnF?
Talk about success...whew!
George Randolph
Firestar driver from The Villages Fl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
Bill Futrell, are you out there somewhere in Florida? please send me an email
george Randolph
_GeoR38@aol.com_ (mailto:GeoR38@aol.com)
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