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1. 01:31 PM - XTRA (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
2. 03:46 PM - Re: Kolbs bunches! (John Hauck)
3. 03:52 PM - Re: VG's in the UK (John Hauck)
4. 04:06 PM - Re: VG's in the UK (John Hauck)
5. 04:35 PM - Re: XTRA (Larry Bourne)
6. 04:39 PM - Uncle Craig's Xtra update (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
7. 05:10 PM - Re: VG's in the UK (Richard Pike)
8. 05:12 PM - MKIII w/912 for sale (Richard Pike)
9. 06:49 PM - Re: VG's in the UK (Land Shorter)
10. 06:55 PM - flight report Mk3/912 vs Rans S-6/582 (H MITCHELL)
11. 08:34 PM - Re: Trenton Flyers Halloween Fly-In (HShack@aol.com)
12. 08:39 PM - Thank you for your email (Dan Viet Newspaper)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Have not been getting any lists for the last few days, so just checking to see
if this works.
Kiwi
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs bunches! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| picture show lasted a good hour and John could call the name of
every
| airport, mountain range, highway, lake, town etc. in every picture.
He man
| is sharp as a razor.
John C/Gang:
Thanks for the kind words, but I had notes written on both arms with a
ball point pen. :-)
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: VG's in the UK |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Have just finished testing these little babies and have managed to
get the stall speed down to 34 Kt at 431kg from the initial 37 Kt.
|
| Kiwi
Kiwi/All:
Was that clean for with full flaperons?
Test flew my old MKIIIc last Fri, after repairing and replacing the
tail section. With 20 gal (120 lbs) fuel she was stalling at:
35 kts clean.
30 kts 20 deg flaps.
29 kts 40 deg flaps.
Stall tests conducted at 2,500 feet ASL without vortex generators.
Wondered what it would do with VGs?
Take care,
john h
PS: You are coming through in hauck's holler, alabama, loud and
clear.
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| Subject: | Re: VG's in the UK |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
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| Test flew my old MKIIIc last Fri, after repairing and replacing the
| tail section. With 20 gal (120 lbs) fuel she was stalling at:
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| 35 kts clean.
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| 30 kts 20 deg flaps.
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| 29 kts 40 deg flaps.
Gang:
The above should have read, "Was that clean or with full flaperons?"
35 kts is 40 mph
30 kts is 35 mph
29 kts is 33 mph
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yup, you're with us. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Kolb-List: XTRA
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd"
> <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
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> Have not been getting any lists for the last few days, so just checking to
> see if this works.
>
> Kiwi
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Uncle Craig's Xtra update |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420 <rp3420@freescale.com>
John Williamson, Will Uribe, Izek and other kolbers inquiring about Uncle Craigs
Mark III Xtra rebuild. It is coming along great. For the first few weeks right
after the mishap we had a hard time motivating ourselves to open the trailer
door and get started....
But we did, and started we have. Repaired the damage and took advantage to add
some Extra details to the fuselage that uncle Craig wanted to do with hind site.
Painted the newly welded tubing and have the fabric and tapes to start recovering.
As for my Firestar II, it is all covered and I am currently masking for painting.
Progress has slowed down a bit due to energy and time going toward uncle Craig's
Xtra. We are still on the list, but have not contributed much lately.
But we are reading daily.
John W. - Thanks for your personal inquiry. Sure did enjoy the hop in your Kolbra
at MV, I'm still talking about it to any who will listen. Craig and I talk
about you often and visit your excellent web site weekly. TG
Will U.- Thanks for stopping by and visiting us last week. Good to have a fellow
Kolber jab a stick under us to keep us concentrated on the task at hand--That
is to GET FLYING!
Regards,
Tim and uncle Craig
www.milows.com <http://www.milows.com>
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| Subject: | Re: VG's in the UK |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
If you get the same results I did, - and I can't imagine why you wouldn't -
you would probably see it stalling 5-6 mph slower at each flap setting, but
the really neat part is that 10-15 mph faster than stall, it handles as
solid as it does at 30 mph faster than stall. IMHO, that's the real payoff.
(Just what you need- another winter project...PS - use duct tape to attach
them for a trial run, that way if you don't like what you get, you are no
worse off. It would be a real killer to take the trouble to paint them all
up with the appropriate colors to make things look good, and then find out
they didn't work for beans!)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
At 06:08 PM 10/17/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | Was that clean for with full flaperons?
>|
>| Test flew my old MKIIIc last Fri, after repairing and replacing the
>| tail section. With 20 gal (120 lbs) fuel she was stalling at:
>|
>| 35 kts clean.
>|
>| 30 kts 20 deg flaps.
>|
>| 29 kts 40 deg flaps.
>
>Gang:
>
>The above should have read, "Was that clean or with full flaperons?"
>
>35 kts is 40 mph
>
>30 kts is 35 mph
>
>29 kts is 33 mph
>
>Take care,
>
>john h
>
>
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| Subject: | MKIII w/912 for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Was at a fly-in this afternoon, and was approached by a flyer from
Spartanburg, SC. He said that a local in Spartanburg had built a MKIII, put
a 912 on it, flown if for about 20 hours, and then passed away. His widow
supposedly wants $20K for it. That's all I know, the phone # is 864-578-2661
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: VG's in the UK |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Land Shorter <landshorter2@yahoo.com>
Just a note... use double sided carpet tape (Home Depot, etc) and trim around each
VG with a razor knife (stick about 20 VGs down to your tape while it's still
on the roll and cut around them with the razor knife and then take them off
one at a time with a small pair of smooth jawed needle nosed pliers and apply
them to the wing using the template for guidance).
If you want a belt-and-suspenders approach you can put *thin* 2' wide clear packing
tape over the double-stuck-taped-VGs either with small pieces on each side
or with one long piece with slits cut in it for the sails to stick up through.
The trick is to not let any of the tape get in front of the forward part of the
VG and trip the boundry layer early. You want the VG to do it's job efficiently.
You also want all your tapes (double-stick and/or packing tape) to be nice
and thin.
Oh, don't skimp on the tape- use a good brand like 3M.
Joa
www.landshorter.com
Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
(Just what you need- another winter project...PS - use duct tape to attach
them for a trial run, that way if you don't like what you get, you are no
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| Subject: | flight report Mk3/912 vs Rans S-6/582 |
Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:54:11 -0400
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Rolled the Mk3 out early this morning, gassed her up, did my preflight and was
in the air by 8AM. That 66 Deg morning air sure helped my climb rate. 'Flew Northwest
up one of the rivers that feed Lake Seminole. I had heard that this stream
was feed by fresh water springs and was interesting to see from the air.
It was all true and the visibility was great. The 912 purred all the way. When
I got back to the field it was fairly busy but I got in the pattern with the
rest and we all got down with no problems.
During a chat with my friend Rut Fuller and I mentioned that I was still getting
used to the 912 after flying my FireFly. He offered to take me up in a Rans
S-6 to show me how easy they are to fly. Takeoff was a non-event but when I tried
some turns I found that the Rans was really different. Other than flunking
turn coordination, level flight and maintaining a heading I did fine. Trading
the Kolb quadrant throttle for the Rans/GA pull-twist throttle was no help. The
different rudder function would also take some getting used to. This little
jewel was fast though, she went to 110 MPH S&L with no hesitation. Generally
it was a very GA-like experience.
Post flight check on the 912 the throttle doubler link end fitting was found to
be loose by several turns. I put some thread lock on it and screwed it tight.
It had not effected throttle action but needed fixing.
Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912, 14.2 Hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Trenton Flyers Halloween Fly-In |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
All are invited to our fly-in on Saturday, 10-30-04. If it fly's, it's
welcome. OK, you can drive in if you must......
Food, gas, candy drops, bonfires, etc. Welcome to camp the whole weekend.
Edgefield County Airport, Trenton, SC 6J6
N 33 44. 21 W 081 49.17 Com 122.9
Questions?
Howard Shackleford hshack@aol.com
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Thank you for your email |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dan Viet Newspaper" <info@danviet.com.au>
Thank you,
We have received your email.
It will be attended to as soon as we possibly can.
Have a nice day!
Cam on ban,
Chung toi da nhan duoc email cua ban.
Chung toi se hoi dap trong thoi gian som nhat.
Chuc ban mot ngay vui ve.
Tuan bao Dan Viet.
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