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1. 05:37 AM - Re: VG's in the UK (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
2. 08:36 AM - Fun Day at Chapter 453 - Fall Picnic & FireFly New Flaperon (Jack & Louise Hart)
3. 08:56 AM - Headsets revisited (HShack@aol.com)
4. 08:59 AM - FireFly New Flaperon Control Report (John Hauck)
5. 12:01 PM - SMLA Fly-In (John Williamson)
6. 01:27 PM - Re: SMLA Fly-In (John Hauck)
7. 02:44 PM - Visit With Kenneth Reeves/Kolbra Builder (John Hauck)
8. 02:58 PM - Re: XTRA (John Abbott)
9. 03:11 PM - Cable info (Mike Pierzina)
10. 04:07 PM - Re: XTRA (James, Ken)
11. 04:31 PM - Re: XTRA (John Hauck)
12. 04:42 PM - Re: SMLA Fly-In (John Williamson)
13. 05:08 PM - Re: MKIII w/912 for sale (bryan green)
14. 05:15 PM - Next Fly-In (John Williamson)
15. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: Trenton Flyers Halloween Fly-In (bryan green)
16. 06:29 PM - Great Pictures (Bill Vincent)
17. 07:25 PM - Re: Fun Day at Chapter 453 - Fall Picnic & FireFly New Flaperon Control Report (Giovanni Day)
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| Subject: | Re: VG's in the UK |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Thank you for the info
Ellery
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| Subject: | Fun Day at Chapter 453 - Fall Picnic & FireFly New Flaperon |
Control Report
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> Control Report
Kolbers & FireFlyers,
Flew down to Painton, MO from K02 to the Chapter 453 - Fall Picnic
yesterday. This is THE big event for the Chapter. Lots of local road
traffic for spouses, want to be and grounded pilots, relatives and kids.
For the last dozen or so years the same fellow has done the barbecue and all
the rest is pitch in. I was remiss in that I did not mention it to the list
before the event.
It was a little chilly, so I wore a neck sock, gloves, sweat shirt and
leather jacket to counter the 50 degree F 2,500 agl temperature. I had
plenty of time to check out the new FireFly flaperon control. I discovered
that I could greatly reduce slide friction which made it very easy to adjust
the flaperons with out fear of slide creep while flying through turbulent
air. I have not removed all friction to see what will happen. By the way
Kolb designed the aileron bell crank system, logic says that the ailerons
will always force the push rods down and the flaperons will always return to
the cruise position. I worry that if I remove all friction, the system will
be susceptible to flutter.
I discovered I could get another 2 to 3 mph gps by adding another degree of
flaperon. With the control continuously variable, one can find the trim
sweet spot for the desired engine cruise speed. As speed goes up one can
lower the nose with the flaperons so that one does not have to use so much
forward stick to keep from climbing and the elevator deflection drag
disappears and speed picks up. If you droop too much you fall off the other
side and the FireFly starts climbing again, drag increases, and speed falls
off.
The FireFly was the only Kolb design at the picnic, but several fellows
crowed around it as I was getting out. They were very interested and they
turned out to be from or close to Murry, Kentucky and knew Giovanni. One
was building a Kolb design. A Chapter member put together a slide show of
the event. It can be seen at:
http://videos.phototributes.com/dwtaylor/eaa.html
It will take a little while to load, but it is worth the wait.
A fun day!
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
do not archive
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Headsets revisited |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
Recieved my David Clark headset from my stepson; did a comparison check on
our 210 mile round trip to the Carolina Sport Flyers Fly-In at Bishopville, SC.
They are model H10-56HXL; they have ANR & are designed for helicopters. They
felt comfortable & were effective at noise reduction, both passive & active.
They look good in you airplane [for those concerned with "image"].
However, they were no more comfortable or effective than my Lightspeed QFR
Cross Country's. The QFR is less bulky & much lighter. The QFR seems to be
more effective at noise reduction on a Rotax 503 powered Firestar II.
The David Clarks are priced at $683.33 in the Aircraft Spruce catalogue; the
Lightspeeds list for $375.00 & can be found at $275.00.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | FireFly New Flaperon Control Report |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| yesterday.
| Jack B. Hart FF004
Jack H/Gang:
Thanks for sharing your flight. Enjoyed the well done video.
Reference flaperons: I do not know if the Fire Fly flaperons will
return to their neutral postion or not. However, the my MKIII flaps
fly at aproximately 10 degs down when not locked into position.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Ronnie Smith and the boys at South Mississippi Light Aircraft put on a great
Fly-In.
I took a lot of photos of a lot of different makes of aircraft but have
limited the photos on my website to Kolbs.
This list has some very interesting and talented members and I enjoy it
every time I am able to put a face with an email name. I had a fantastic
time and three days of super weather.
My updated website can be found at:
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/
click on "Flights in 2004" to find the Shane Smith Memorial Octoberlite
Fly-In page.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 697 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
Zenith CH701 Project
http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
on a great
| Fly-In.
John W/Gang:
I agree. Had a great time flying down with my friends, Dan Horton,
Maxair Rocket, Bill Griffin, Baby Ace, and James Tripp, FSII.
Folks were friendly. Had a good supper Sat night. I was overwhelmed
by the presentation of USUA President Reggie Deloach. :-)
One correction on photo captions and you make an "A" on these great
pictures:
Ted Cowan owns one SS and Jim Holbrook, Panama City, FL, owns the
other. Jim Holbrook is also a good photographer. He has volunteered
to clean up some of my photos that were ok and make them into
something a little better. So far, I have no retouched/edited any of
my pictures from the AK 2004 flight.
Looking forward to the next flyin I can attend.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Visit With Kenneth Reeves/Kolbra Builder |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
A wayyyyyyyyyyy back in the West Central Alabama woods, on the other
side (west) of the Alabama River and the east side of the Tombigbee
River, there is a neat little airstrip nestled in the woods and hills,
exactly 116 miles from Gantt IAP. That little airstrip runs right
down the ridge line. At one end is the start of a very nice steel
hanger sitting on a concrete pad.
James Tripp and I flew from Lucedale to Kenneth's place to check out
his operation. While we were there Kenneth fed us a good ole Alabama
lunch, then we looked at and talked Kolbra. Discovered how many
airplanes had been in and out of Kenneth's airstrip........two (2).
That's right. Miss P'fer was the first and James' FSII was the
second. He's got a couple trees he needs to cut to make this a very
nice light plane paradise. I must say it is intimidating to land into
a short field with 100 ft plus trees on the departure threshold.
Especially, when one is loaded with 20 gal of fuel, my gear plus Dan
Horton's and Bill Griffin's. Seems when your airplane will not carry
much more than a toothbrush, Miss P'fer volunteers to tote their stuff
for them. James and I got in and got out with no problem though.
Kenneth is doing a good job on his Kolbra. I hope it will not
disappoint any of you aviation engineer types if he incorporates a
little "hauck" in his Kolbra. Well, the factory had already added a
little "hauck" in there before Kenneth's kit was delivered.
Ya'll take care,
john h
MKIII - 2,252.4 hours
912ULS - 906.5 hours
Miss P'fer's pilot - Way past TBO.............
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Abbott" <jrabbott@chartermi.net>
I'm new to this Lolb list and just saw this request to be on the Kolb-List
XTRA. I am building an Xtra and want to be on a list of those who have
contrsucted or currently constructing an Xtra.
Please let me know.
John Abbott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: XTRA
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Yup, you're with us. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: XTRA
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd"
>> <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
>>
>> Have not been getting any lists for the last few days, so just checking
>> to
>> see if this works.
>>
>> Kiwi
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
Thought you might be interested in this....
http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=679
I'll keep this in mind if I change cables some day....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN - Aircraft Spruce cables
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
--
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" <KDJames@berkscareer.com>
Welcome aboard, I'm also building a xtra, where are you located and how far
are you in the build?
Ken James
Drafting Design Technology Instructor
Berks Career and Technology Center
East Campus
3307 Friedensburg Rd.
Oley, Pa. 19506
610-987-6201 Ext. 3532
Kdjames@berkscareer.com
-----Original Message-----
From: John Abbott [mailto:jrabbott@chartermi.net]
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: XTRA
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Abbott" <jrabbott@chartermi.net>
I'm new to this Lolb list and just saw this request to be on the Kolb-List
XTRA. I am building an Xtra and want to be on a list of those who have
contrsucted or currently constructing an Xtra.
Please let me know.
John Abbott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: XTRA
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
> Yup, you're with us. Do not Archive.
>
> Larry Bourne
> Palm Springs, CA
> Building Kolb Mk III
> N78LB Vamoose
> www.gogittum.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: XTRA
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd"
>> <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
>>
>> Have not been getting any lists for the last few days, so just checking
>> to
>> see if this works.
>>
>> Kiwi
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Kolb-List
| XTRA. I am building an Xtra and want to be on a list of those who
have
| contrsucted or currently constructing an Xtra.
| Please let me know.
| John Abbott
Hi John A/All:
Welcome to the Kolb Builders List. You are at the right place. There
are Kolb MKIII Xtra builders and flyers on this List.
Relax, enjoy, tell us a little about yourself, where you are from,
etc., and join the Kolb family.
Take care,
john h
MKIIIc/912ULS
Titus, Alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
John H.
Thanks for the name correction.
It Has been changed.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 697 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
Zenith CH701 Project
http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: MKIII w/912 for sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Tks. Richard I'll check it out. Do not archive.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Subject: Kolb-List: MKIII w/912 for sale
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Was at a fly-in this afternoon, and was approached by a flyer from
> Spartanburg, SC. He said that a local in Spartanburg had built a MKIII,
> put
> a 912 on it, flown if for about 20 hours, and then passed away. His widow
> supposedly wants $20K for it. That's all I know, the phone # is
> 864-578-2661
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Fellow Kolbers,
The 20th Annual Flying M Ranch Fly-In/Campout is this coming weekend, Oct
22 - 23 - 24, 2004.
I went last year during the rain showers and we still had over 125 aircraft
show up. Up to 200 aircraft have been know to attend.
Info about the airfield can be found at:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/7TA7
Dinner is served Friday night, three meals on Saturday and breakfast on
Sunday.
Trophies presented at Saturday Dinner.
Email me if you need to know the traffic pattern and procedures.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 697 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
Zenith CH701 Project
http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Trenton Flyers Halloween Fly-In |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
See ya there may be flying a mark III.
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
----- Original Message -----
From: <HShack@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Trenton Flyers Halloween Fly-In
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
> All are invited to our fly-in on Saturday, 10-30-04. If it fly's, it's
> welcome. OK, you can drive in if you must......
>
> Food, gas, candy drops, bonfires, etc. Welcome to camp the whole
> weekend.
>
> Edgefield County Airport, Trenton, SC 6J6
> N 33 44. 21 W 081 49.17 Com 122.9
>
> Questions?
>
> Howard Shackleford hshack@aol.com
> FS II
> SC
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi John Williamson
Thanks for the great pictures and the hard work you put into your website. I had
a nice picture of our planes parked together at Scott Trasks airstrip, but
my computer crashed and I lost it. I learned my lesson and bought a CD burner
:-)
Bill & Anna Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
Do Not archive
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| Subject: | Fun Day at Chapter 453 - Fall Picnic & FireFly New Flaperon |
Control Report
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Jack,
Very nice to see the video. Thanks for posting it. I hated to miss it,
but when the DAR comes a calling, you have to be there. I saw my friends
David and Julian in one of the photos. I have been telling them about
your Italian motor.
Giovanni
Mark III/912 N-80566 now official Airworthy.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack & Louise
Hart Control Report
Subject: Kolb-List: Fun Day at Chapter 453 - Fall Picnic & FireFly New
Flaperon Control Report
The FireFly was the only Kolb design at the picnic, but several fellows
crowed around it as I was getting out. They were very interested and
they
turned out to be from or close to Murry, Kentucky and knew Giovanni.
One
was building a Kolb design. A Chapter member put together a slide show
of
the event. It can be seen at:
http://videos.phototributes.com/dwtaylor/eaa.html
It will take a little while to load, but it is worth the wait.
A fun day!
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
do not archive
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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