---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/23/04: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:05 PM - Re: FireFly New Flaperon Control Report (Jack & Louise Hart) 2. 06:11 PM - Lexan Glue (Beauford) 3. 06:26 PM - Running a 912S without a prop? (Rusty) 4. 06:43 PM - Re: Running a 912S without a prop? (John Hauck) 5. 06:51 PM - MKIII Flight Report (touch down speeds) (John Hauck) 6. 08:26 PM - Re: Lexan Glue (Richard Pike) 7. 08:50 PM - Re: MKIII Flight Report (touch down speeds) (possums) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:51 PM PST US From: Jack & Louise Hart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireFly New Flaperon Control Report --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart At 11:01 AM 10/18/04 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > >Reference flaperons: I do not know if the Fire Fly flaperons will >return to their neutral postion or not. However, the my MKIII flaps >fly at aproximately 10 degs down when not locked into position. > FireFlyers & John, The weather has been terrible since last Sunday. It cleared a little this afternoon and so I made a dash for the airport. The wind was blowing 20+ but it was right down the runway. The unstable air made it a good test day to see what would happen if I loosened the friction ring on the flaperon control slide. After loosening the friction lock, I flew for about five minutes and the flaperon position remained constant. If I drooped the flaperons they stayed where they were put. I made a landing approach, and again they stayed fixed. But as soon as I hit the ground and started to taxi, they started to droop. The action of the stick to handle the wind, no pressure under the wings, rough taxiway and aileron weight (no counter balances) caused them to droop. I am going to hook a bungee cord to the rear end of the slide in an attempt to balance out flaperon weight. Then I will take another test fight to see if the flaperons will float back up from being down. By balancing them less friction will be required to hold them into the desired position. Because the weather has been so bad, I have been working on the radio problem. I found that my microphones are working, but they have insufficient output to drive the radio. I have ordered some pre-amps kits that may solve the problem. So may be in another week or two I will have the problem solved. One must remain optimistic. I have been trying to solve this problem for five years. I have found another less expensive throat microphone that works better (greater noise rejection) on my digital voice recorder. With the pre-amp, I hope I can use it on my radio too. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:48 PM PST US From: "Beauford" Subject: Kolb-List: Lexan Glue --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" Kolbers... What are some suitable glues for fixing lexan to lexan...? Will acetone work? I'm trying to reinforce windshield attachment points... Thankee... Beauford FF #076 Brandon FL ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:04 PM PST US From: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Running a 912S without a prop? 0.00 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS From: contains numbers mixed in with letters --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Greetings, I'm still cleaning out all the crap in my garage so I can bring the SS home for rebuild. I would like to run the engine periodically, to make sure it stays healthy, but I need to have the prop off to get it in and out of the door (unless I can find a two blade prop). Will it hurt anything to crank the engine without a prop, and run it at 2500 rpm or so for a few minutes? Obviously, I'll have to watch the temps since there isn't going to be much airflow. Thanks, Rusty ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:25 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Running a 912S without a prop? --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Will it hurt anything to crank | the engine without a prop, and run it at 2500 rpm or so for a few minutes? | Rusty Hi Rusty/All: IIRC from the last 912 school I attended, not recommended to run 912, especially 912ULS, without the prop, which is an integral part of the flywheel "effect" system. If the engine is properly pickled for storage, there is no need to run it periodically. To back up this info, go to the Rotax web site, download and read the Shop Manual. All the info is in there. Take care, john h ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:18 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: MKIII Flight Report (touch down speeds) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Hi Gang: My turn to do a flight report. There are some "pig trail two track" roads through the cotton fields just west of Speigner Lake and Draper Prison. Been using them for off field landings since the days of the Ultrastar. On the way home from Wetumpka Airport, I short four landings, two to the east and two to the west. With 10 gal fuel and pilot on board, no cargo, I consistently touched down at 30 mph indicated. Normally, I do not look at the ASI at touch down, but yesterday was a good day to do it. I surprised myself when I did the first landing with my eye on the ASI until the mains touched the ground. Right on 30 mph. Had to go back up and do it three more times to insure I was seeing what I was seeing. Really made me proud of my big fat old bird. She is quite the gal. And did it with out the aid of vortex generators. With more than 20 gals on board this afternoon, I shot another landing in the same place, but it was turbulent and I couldn't get settled down enough just prior to touch down to keep an eye on the ASI. However, it was somewhere between 30 and 35 mph. The slowwww landings were with 40 deg (two notches) flaps, throttle closed, eng rpm 2,000. Take care, john h ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:41 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Lexan Glue --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Here's a page of somebody gluing Lexan to Lexan with Shoe-Goo http://www.misbehavin-rc.com/pit-lane/body-strengthen/g-body-strengthen.asp And here's another, same idea, more details. http://www.hobbyworks.com/default.cfm/Content/fullarticle/hs/Home/ID/14 Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 09:13 PM 10/23/2004 -0400, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" > >Kolbers... >What are some suitable glues for fixing lexan to lexan...? Will acetone work? >I'm trying to reinforce windshield attachment points... > >Thankee... > >Beauford >FF #076 >Brandon FL > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:39 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MKIII Flight Report (touch down speeds) --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums At 09:51 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > >Hi Gang: > >My turn to do a flight report. > >There are some "pig trail two track" roads through the cotton fields >just west of Speigner Lake and Draper Prison. Been using them for off >field landings since the days of the Ultrastar. > >On the way home from Wetumpka Airport, I short four landings, two to >the east and two to the west. Right on 30 mph. Had to >go back up and do it three more times to insure I was seeing what I >was seeing. Really made me proud of my big fat old bird. She is >quite the gal. And did it with out the aid of vortex generators. Yeah...... but I ain't got no flaps. I got the VG's though. Possum - fly with the buzzards take a "paintball gun" just for fun. ------------------------------------------------------ Kolbers... What are some suitable glues for fixing lexan to lexan...? Will acetone work? I'm trying to reinforce windshield attachment points... Beauford ------------------------------------------------------- Will acetone work? - No Try "Googling" this stuff. I've used something like it years ago to extend a lexan windshield. It works kind of like PVC cement. Melts the stuff together. -------------------------------------------------------- "Acrifix 192" Cadillac Plastics http://kimmershow.com/fileTamer/news%20report%20from%20Iraq.wmv