Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 01:23 AM - Re: Altitude goal (GeoR38@aol.com)
2. 04:02 AM - Re: 10,000 ft. club (Airgriff2@aol.com)
3. 06:50 AM - Re: 912 UL engine problem, the answer (John Hauck)
4. 07:12 AM - Operating The 912 Series Engines (John Hauck)
5. 07:24 AM - Re: 10,000 ft. club (John Hauck)
6. 07:30 AM - Re: 912 UL engine problem, the answer (Rusty)
7. 07:33 AM - Re: Operating The 912 Series Engines (Giovanni Day)
8. 07:36 AM - Re: Operating The 912 Series Engines (HShack@aol.com)
9. 07:46 AM - 912's and MMO (John Hauck)
10. 07:51 AM - Re: Operating The 912 Series Engines (John Hauck)
11. 07:52 AM - Re: Altitude goal (The Kuffels)
12. 08:41 AM - Re: Operating The 912 Series Engines (John Hauck)
13. 08:43 AM - Re: Microair 760 in a Kolb (William George)
14. 09:47 AM - 4-strokes in Kolbs in UK (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
15. 10:30 AM - Re: 912 UL engine problem, the answer (N27SB@aol.com)
16. 10:50 AM - Re: 4-strokes in Kolbs in UK (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
17. 11:03 AM - Re: 4-strokes in Kolbs in UK (PATRICK LADD)
18. 11:12 AM - Re: 10,000 ft. club (Jim Baker)
19. 11:29 AM - Re: WHOOPS aka Airbus story (PATRICK LADD)
20. 01:26 PM - Re: WHOOPS aka Airbus story (Bob N.)
21. 01:54 PM - Re: Altitude goal (Don Gherardini)
22. 03:30 PM - Re: 912 UL engine problem, the answer (John Hauck)
23. 03:51 PM - Re: 10,000ft (Masqqqqqqq@aol.com)
24. 04:34 PM - kolb 10,000 ft club (boyd young)
25. 05:05 PM - Registering Changes to Experimental Aircraft in the USA (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
26. 05:41 PM - Re: kolb 10,000 ft club (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
27. 05:56 PM - Re: kolb 10,000 ft club (John Hauck)
28. 06:06 PM - Re: kolb 10,000 ft club (Kolbdriver)
29. 06:43 PM - Re: kolb 10,000 ft club (Giovanni Day)
30. 07:39 PM - Re: Altitude goal (Richard Swiderwski)
31. 09:28 PM - Titan 10 gal gas tanks (Rick Pearce)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Altitude goal |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 11/8/2004 10:54:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rswiderski@earthlink.net writes:
Hey Bob,
I took my Cuyuna powered UltraStar up to 11600ft one hot summer Fl
day wearing a snowmobile suit. The plane was having fun but the old engine
was jetted at 1050 EGT so it just got too rich & wanted to stop running. It
was the ist time I saw the atlantic & gulf coasts at the same time. I too
glided down with engine shut off. It definitely was one of the most
memorial flights in my life, over 2 miles up & hanging out in the open.
When I get my turbo Geo Metro engine going I'll want to see how far her
limit or maybe my limit is, either one will be illeagle as 10k is our legal
limit. I wonder if one can get permission to do that on a one time basis?
Richard Swiderski
Engineless slingshot that's now moldy looking-
Do not archive
Boy, youn's guys are good, I have only been to 5k in "by George" the
Firestar...well, we will see what happens in the near future.....I have been to
14.5k in a dual glider though....got sick... and had to forego the additional
lift we had in New Mexico ...believe it or not.
george randolph
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 10,000 ft. club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Here is an update on members so far for the "10,000 ft. club":
Kiwi 11,200
Richard Pike 10,000
Dave Pelletier 10,200
G Haley 13,000
Terry Swartz 12,500
Tim 10,700
Tom Guidros 14,200
Richard Swiderski 11,600
Hav'nt heard from John Hauck or John Williamson.
Also John Jung went to 17,000 MSL-- need to here from him to verify altitude
(AGL)
Anyone else who achieves this goal can post on the list or contact me direct
at airgriff2@aol.com
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 912 UL engine problem, the answer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
not know that idling was all that bad.
|
| Living and learning,
|
| Duane the plane Tallahassee, FL, Mk3c/912, 18 Hrs
Morning Duane/Gang:
I know what you mean about living and learning.
I have always used 5,000 rpm as normal cruise rpm for the 912 and
912ULS. I have also flown the engines for extended periods at WOT,
when climbing to clear terrain. I was taught in 912 School the
engines are designed to operate at 5,500 rpm maximum continuous
without hurting the engines. I have tested this and believe it.
Over the last 10 years and 2,045.0 hours I have discovered a few
things about the 912/912ULS engines:
1. Like most other engines, they like to operate at warm temps, at
least 180F CHT, and 190F engine oil temp. Cylinder head temp is
important to help vaporize and burn the fuel efficiently. I
discovered this 10 years ago during the flight to Alaska. As soon as
I got up north in cooler temps the engine started telling me it was
running lean. I pulled the plugs and they were telling me I was
running rich, black sooty, just the opposite of what I thought they
would look like. Reducing power from 5,000 rpm cruise to set up for
landing, the engine would stumble and try to shake itself out of the
mounts. After I got back to Alabama and had time and a place to
experiment, I discovered it did not like to operate at low CHT. I
know the book says anything below whatever max CHT is for the 912 now,
and do not say anything about minimum other than 120F before going
full throttle. Because the 912 series engines do not have a
thermostat on coolant or engine oil I use "gaffer's tape" to tape up a
part of the coolant radiator to bring CHT and oil temps above 180F and
190F respectively. If I don't get the CHT up and keep it up, the
spark plugs can not do their job of burning off contaminants and
staying clean.
2. Yes, I use Marvel Mystery Oil in my 912ULS, as well as all the
other internal combustion engines I operate, gas, diesel, two stroke
and all. On the 2001 flight to Alaska I used Alcor TCP to help
scavenge lead out of the engine while operating on a steady diet of
100LL. It worked, but was expensive, hazardous, and inconvenient to
use. On the 2004 flight to Alaska I used Marvel Mystery Oil and no
Alcor TCP. Guess what? The MMO worked as well as the TCP, maybe
better. Plus, it was easy to obtain, as close as the nearest
Wal*Mart. I use it as prescribed, plus double up on it every once in
a while to give it a good dose. :-)
3. Other than frequent oil and fil changes, and I still use Fram
Tough Guard TG3614 oil filters, spark plug changes at prescribed
times, and air filter maintenance, I run Hell out of the 912ULS, as I
did the 912. Great engines! Worth every penny of what they cost for
the reliability, peace of mind, and performance.
Take care,
john h
MKIIIc - 2,055.9 hours
912ULS - 910.0 hours
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Operating The 912 Series Engines |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Duane/Gang:
Forgot to mention something about the 912.
1. I prop for 5,400 static. That gives me 5,300 climb and 5,500 WOT
straight and level. The rpm drops from 5,400 to 5,300 shortly after
the aircraft starts rolling on takeoff.
2. 5,000 seems to be the sweet spot for my MKIIIc and the 912 and the
912ULS. Easy to keep temps in normal operating range. However,
anything under 5,000 and eng oil and CHT drop off rapidly, especially
the 912. The 912ULS generates a lot more heat than the 912.
3. I use Valvoline Duralube Semi-Synthetic 5W40 when operating on
100LL, to suspend the lead in the engine.
4. I use Shell Rotella Full Synthetic 5W40 when operating on auto
fuel. Less than $13.00 a gal at Wal*Mart.
Take care,
john h
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 10,000 ft. club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Also John Jung went to 17,000 MSL-- need to here from him to verify
altitude
| (AGL)
| Bob Griffin
Hi Bob/Gang:
Two years ago I climbed to 14,500 to cross the Sierra Nevadas from
Mono Lake to Pine Mountain Lake, CA. Was less than 1,000 feet about
the terrain. Several years prior to that I had climbed to 13,500 feet
over Illinois, returning from OSH. That flight was aprx 13,000 feet
AGL.
Flights above 10,000 feet have become routine after flying the Rockies
for the last two years. These high altitude flights were done with
full fuel, 150 lbs, and full gear (GW aprx 1,100 to 1,200 lbs).
Landed at Leadville, CO, last summer at 9,927 ft ASL. That ain't far
from 10,000 ft.
Either 1988 or 89, climbed to 10,000 ft in the 447 point ign Rotax
powered original Firestar over Alabama. That flight was cold and
exciting.
John W has climbed to well over 15,000 ft, I believe. I am sure Miss
P'fer will do 15,000+ if necessary. She was still climbing when we
reached 14,500. Haven't found the need to climb higher than 14,500 so
far.
Take care,
john h
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | 912 UL engine problem, the answer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
2. Yes, I use Marvel Mystery Oil in my 912ULS, as well as all the
other internal combustion engines I operate, gas, diesel, two stroke
and all.
Hi John,
Interesting to hear you say this. What ratio do you mix the MMO? Ever use
it in a new fuel injected vehicle?
Here's the reason I ask. I just ordered a 91 gallon transfer tank for my
truck, and plan to use it to fill the Mazda rotary powered RV-3, as well as
the 912ULS powered SS. In the rotary, we have to mix 1 oz per gallon of
either MMO, or two stroke oil to lubricate the apex seals. The most
convenient way for me to mix this, will be to add it to the transfer tank
when I'm filling it up. That will also keep it well mixed as I drive. Until
I read your post, I was thinking I wouldn't be able to mix the MMO in the
transfer tank, because I didn't think it would be good to use in the 912ULS.
Now, it sounds like it won't hurt the engine, and may actually help it.
Now, if I could only run 87 octane in the 912ULS (since that's all I need in
the rotary). Can't have everything I guess.
Cheers,
Rusty
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Operating The 912 Series Engines |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Giovanni Day <gde01@bellsouth.net>
John,
Thanks for the info. You originaly said 5000 WOT and I was a bit confsed.
I have the same thing happen at take off.
Giovanni
============================================================
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Operating The 912 Series Engines
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Duane/Gang:
Forgot to mention something about the 912.
1. I prop for 5,400 static. That gives me 5,300 climb and 5,500 WOT
straight and level. The rpm drops from 5,400 to 5,300 shortly after
the aircraft starts rolling on takeoff.
2. 5,000 seems to be the sweet spot for my MKIIIc and the 912 and the
912ULS. Easy to keep temps in normal operating range. However,
anything under 5,000 and eng oil and CHT drop off rapidly, especially
the 912. The 912ULS generates a lot more heat than the 912.
3. I use Valvoline Duralube Semi-Synthetic 5W40 when operating on
100LL, to suspend the lead in the engine.
4. I use Shell Rotella Full Synthetic 5W40 when operating on auto
fuel. Less than $13.00 a gal at Wal*Mart.
Take care,
john h
============================================================
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Operating The 912 Series Engines |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 11/9/2004 10:13:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
4. I use Shell Rotella Full Synthetic 5W40 when operating on auto
fuel. Less than $13.00 a gal at Wal*Mart.
Take care,
john h
On reading the instructions on our 912 ULS install, they said use ONLY some
kind of whiz-bang Mobile 1 motorcycle oil; we just ordered enough for the next
several oil changes @ $9.00 a quart. Is that a bunch of baloney???
Also, they say use only one brand of coolant [can't remember which] that has
no water in it; also very expensive and not available locally. What do you
use, John H.?
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Interesting to hear you say this. What ratio do you mix the MMO?
Ever use
| it in a new fuel injected vehicle?
| Rusty
Rusty/Gang:
I mix MMO as prescribed by the manufacturer: 1 quart to 100 gal.
Sometimes I double up on it.
I use it in several fuel injected engines:
Cummins Diesel (282,000+ miles and smokin')
Nissan V6
Take care,
john h
PS: I have 25 gal gasoline and a 55 gal diesel tanks in the back of
my 1992 Dodge/Cummins. I pour MMO in both tanks. The gas tank is for
the 4 kw Onan generator (it has 2,400 hours on it).
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Operating The 912 Series Engines |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
confsed.
|
| I have the same thing happen at take off.
|
| Giovanni
Giovanni/Gang:
As an official senior citizen I am entiltled to to typos, memory
lapses, and screw ups. ;-)
I prop for 5,500 rpm WOT straight and level flight. That equates to
5,400 rpm static, as checked with "prop tach". Tachometers have been
know to be less than honest.
Take care,
john h
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Altitude goal |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
R & G, et al,
<<10k is our legal limit. I wonder if one can get permission to do that
on a one time basis?>>
<<18000 and up is class A controlled with IFR equip aircraft and IFR
cert pilot. So I thought 17999 was the limit. Can some one clarify?>>
Presume Richard is referring to the requirement for a Mode C transponder
above 10,000 feet MSL or 2,500 feet AGL, whichever is higher (not to
mention the area around Class B and Class C airports).
Yes, you can get one-time and even recurring exemptions. Contact the
ARTCC responsible for your area and see what they want in terms of prior
notice, radios, location, etc. Be nice, granting exemptions is their
option.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Operating The 912 Series Engines |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
ONLY some
| kind of whiz-bang Mobile 1 motorcycle oil; we just ordered enough
for the next
| several oil changes @ $9.00 a quart. Is that a bunch of baloney???
|
| Also, they say use only one brand of coolant [can't remember which]
that has
| no water in it; also very expensive and not available locally. What
do you
| use, John H.?
|
|
| Howard Shackleford
Morning Shack/Gang:
The way I understand it, Rotax recommends 4 stroke MC oil because
there is a gear lube additive in it. I used a couple qts in my Suzuki
DRZ400E and decided I would go back to my Mobil I or Shell Rotella
Full Sythetic oil that did not cost $8.00+ a quart. I figure if
organic Rotella can do a good job of lubricating all those gears in
those "big" diesel over the road engines, should be able to lube my
912 and my 400cc thumper bike engine.
I can not recommend or advise anyone to do anything, especially when
it is in contradiction to the "book". But I can share with you all
what I do and use.
This latest service bulletin with the new, expensive coolant, allows
you to run the CHT right up to the specified red line. Ethyl Glycol
is limited to 265F 50/50 mix. John W and I discussed this at Lucedale
last month. We are going to continue run antifreeze. I use Texaco
Long Life at 50/50. I think as long as I keep the CHT below 265F I
will be ok. I operated in 114F temps in Death Valley two years ago.
Had to reduce power to keep the eng oil temp below the red line, as
well as CHT. $25.00 a gal plus shipping is more than I will pay for a
"dedicated" coolant that is not compatible with water.
In more than 2,000 hours I have had no problems based on incorrect oil
or coolant on my two 912 series engines.
Take care,
john h
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | RE: Microair 760 in a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: William George <wgeorge@mountainmeadowranch.com>
HI Giovanni,
I use that radio in my Mk-3. Works great, although I am not fond of the
tiny knobs. My big paws make them a bit difficult to use, especially
in turbulence. Can't comment on the intercom though. I use it with an
external I/C box.
Bill George
Hawaii
Kolb Mk-3 Verner 1400 Powerfin
do not archive
Begin forwarded message:
> Anyone using a Microair 760 or the like in a MKIII or any Kolb? I was
> wondering how the built in intercom worked and what you liked about the
> radio? Thanks
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | 4-strokes in Kolbs in UK |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
(note - I changed the Subject line)
Patrick Ladd wrote: << the Jabiru is the only 4 stroke cleared for use with
the Kolb over here. To get clearance for a 912 would take some money and a
lot of time ... Strange the ways of beaurocracy. Pat >>
Pat -
I was surprised to hear this fact, especially since the 912 is a
JAR-certified aircraft engine in Europe. Does this restriction apply to
YOUR homebuilt Kolb, or all Kolbs built in the UK? In other words, if you
spend the time & money to approve a 912 in your Mark-III, does the next poor
guy have to go thru the same wickets, or would your efforts serve as "proof
of concept" to the UK airworthiness authorities, allowing future Mark-III
owners to install a 912 without going thru the same hassle? Just wondering
how the rules work.
Could you install a Verner? (Also a 4-stroke) Mike Moulai (at Silver Fern)
was looking into installing one in a Mark-III last year sometime ...
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III in New Mexico, USA
do not archive
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 912 UL engine problem, the answer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 11/9/04 8:50:56 AM Central Standard Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
> 2. Yes, I use Marvel Mystery Oil in my 912ULS, as well as all the
> other internal combustion engines I operate, gas, diesel, two stroke
> and all.
John, What was your experience with the 447 and MMO?
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 4-strokes in Kolbs in UK |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Gidday Dennis,
Good point.
The system over here is if we were to spend the time and money to get a
particular engine/ prop installation approved that would then mean that
anyone else who wants to fit that exact combination could do so with no
further testing needed.
One of the main problems is the weight of the 912.
Remember that we can only fly the Xtra at 890 lb at the moment, we are
trying to get it up to 950lb.
within that weight we must be able to carry two 90 Kg occupants and enough
fuel for 1 hr flight at full throttle.
We get a tough time over here.
Mike the Kiwi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Subject: Kolb-List: 4-strokes in Kolbs in UK
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> (note - I changed the Subject line)
>
> Patrick Ladd wrote: << the Jabiru is the only 4 stroke cleared for use
> with
> the Kolb over here. To get clearance for a 912 would take some money and a
> lot of time ... Strange the ways of beaurocracy. Pat >>
>
> Pat -
>
> I was surprised to hear this fact, especially since the 912 is a
> JAR-certified aircraft engine in Europe. Does this restriction apply to
> YOUR homebuilt Kolb, or all Kolbs built in the UK? In other words, if you
> spend the time & money to approve a 912 in your Mark-III, does the next
> poor
> guy have to go thru the same wickets, or would your efforts serve as
> "proof
> of concept" to the UK airworthiness authorities, allowing future Mark-III
> owners to install a 912 without going thru the same hassle? Just
> wondering
> how the rules work.
>
> Could you install a Verner? (Also a 4-stroke) Mike Moulai (at Silver
> Fern)
> was looking into installing one in a Mark-III last year sometime ...
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-III in New Mexico, USA
> do not archive
>
>
>
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 4-strokes in Kolbs in UK |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I was surprised to hear this fact, especially since the 912 is a
JAR-certified aircraft engine in Europe. >>
Hi,
I think I misrepresented the facts. Perhaps Mike will correct me if he is
listening in.
There are no 4 strokes approved with Kolb at the moment. Mike Moulai
recommended the Jabi over the 912 as the unofficial word is that it will be
easier to get approval. It is also lighter and cheaper.
Once a combination such as the 3X plus Jabi (plus prop) is cleared that will
constitute `type approval`.
Approval for a 3x plus 912 will have to be obtained separately.
Both the Jabi and the 912 are working well over here in other aircraft.
I don`t think there are many other engines in use yet. I think there is a
BMW in a gyro but VW conversions are ok for light aircraft, Rollason
Turbulent for instance but in general they are too heavy for ultralights
given that our main spec is MAUW
Mike, it seems, has the engine from a Smart Car in the back of the hangar
somewhere which he is intending to use at some point. Interesting!
I often wonder how we ever got away with using the Rotax 503 which arrived
from the manufacturer with a large label stating clearly `Not for use in
aircraft`
Cheers
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
do not archive
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 10,000 ft. club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
>members so far for the "10,000 ft. club":
13,400 in Oklahoma, almost all altitude gained at 1/4 throttle and
thermals.......
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
'71 Super Viking, 492TC
95 FS II, Hirth 2704
Elmore City, OK
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: WHOOPS aka Airbus story |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
The pax on that heroic flight were so grateful they SUED the airline!!>>
That is incredible. Seeing that it was out of Baghdad were the passenger
Arabs or Americans?
One guess.
Glad you liked the report.
Cheers
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
Do not archive
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: WHOOPS aka Airbus story |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Patrick,
See my Whoops ERROR ERROR:
...11/08/04 Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
I had the missile incident ge-mixed with the outa-fuel-and-gliding to
Azores feat.
Being sent to bed without ice cream....bwaaah
Bob N.
do not archive
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Altitude goal |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
George....
Im with you pard, I have had the FireFly up to 6500 for awhile, but I
couldnt see much on the ground and I got to thinking I might be missing
something , so I took her back down to 2k for a look!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 912 UL engine problem, the answer |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Steve/Gang:
I added it to the premix fuel in the same ratio as prescribed on the
bottle. Kept the same 50 to 1 premix ratio.
john h
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Masqqqqqqq@aol.com
Checked my log book...........on 7-6-97 I took my Kolb UltraStar to 13,000
feet MSL. Couldn't climb any higher, the engine was going pretty rough at that
altitude, since I don't have in-flight adjustable carbs. This was over the
Stevens Point airport in central Wisconsin.
do not archive.
Message 24
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
<Airgriff2@aol.com>
| Subject: | kolb 10,000 ft club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
exclusive 10,000 ft. membership club ? Who's been there? I know the 2 Johns
have! Anyone else ?
boyd young,mkIII c,,,,, been there and beyond, quite legaly over the rocky
mountains.
-------------------------------------
18000 and up is class A controlled with IFR equip aircraft and IFR cert
pilot. So I thought 17999 was the limit. Can some one clarify? Thanks
Giovanni
i think that part is true..... but anything over 10,000 requires a mode c transponder
as well........ unless you are within 1500 ft agl. ie going over the
mountains.
do not archive
Message 25
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Registering Changes to Experimental Aircraft in the USA |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
I called today to find out what I need to do to keep my experimental airplane legal
with the changes I'm making to my plane. I was told that I had the old "Special
Airworthiness Certificate" and I am required to notify the FAAs FSDO office
and get written response before I can fly my airplane. The changes necessitating
this notification is defined in FAR 21.93 . Now he said I can E-mail him
with a brief description of the changes and indicate that I have done a weight
and balance. He said he would E-mail right back a conformation so that I can
go fly and he would forward the changes to my records at FAA. I then need to
update the aircraft logs with the same information and fly off 5 test hours.
No muss no fuss I will be legal.
Now if I had the new Certificate I would just update my log book and fly off the
5 test hours. He said the sheet attached to the certificate details the requirements
and follow the sheet you have.
For the record I'm documenting the change to a reduction drive and the new engine
mount.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
Message 26
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: kolb 10,000 ft club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Hey Guys,
I don't quite understand what all the thrill is with the 10,000 foot club.
Now, the mile high club! That's something of interest :)
Do Not Archive
Bill-never been higher than a kite-Varnes
Original FireStar
Audubon NJ
Message 27
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: kolb 10,000 ft club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
foot club.
Bill V/Gang:
Well..............sometimes it is the only way to get where ya want to
go without tunneling........
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Message 28
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | kolb 10,000 ft club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mfire.com>
Now that's a club I'm a member of!!!
Of course it wasn't in a kolb....... Rats...
Do we get a certificate for that!!!
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kolb 10,000 ft club
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Hey Guys,
I don't quite understand what all the thrill is with the 10,000 foot club.
Now, the mile high club! That's something of interest :)
Do Not Archive
Bill-never been higher than a kite-Varnes
Original FireStar
Audubon NJ
Message 29
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | kolb 10,000 ft club |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Bill et. al.,
I was wondering the same thing and I hate being left out of the
fun. I only fly for fun (FFF) and usually when my wheels leave the
ground, I have reached my destination. That said, I thought I would set
my destination a little higher, 10k feet.
So I took my MKIII out today to see what was up there. When I
got there, seems everything was very small and it was colder than a well
diggers behind. I figured there must be more a little higher and could
not resist going on up as she was still climbing at 650 fpm. When I got
to 12650, I decided that 12k AGL was high enough with out O2 or a pulse
ox. I shut her down for a few minutes and glided to 10k, started her up
again and warm the engine back up a bit. I then shut her down and glided
down to landed at a friend grass field. IMHO coming down is way more fun
than going up. Power off I came down 700-800fpm @ 40-45 mph IAS most of
the time. I just played around doing stalls and wing overs. I also
enjoyed the silence.
Giovanni
MKIII 912
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kolb 10,000 ft club
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Hey Guys,
I don't quite understand what all the thrill is with the 10,000 foot
club.
Now, the mile high club! That's something of interest :)
Do Not Archive
Bill-never been higher than a kite-Varnes
Original FireStar
Audubon NJ
Message 30
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Thanks Tom,
...Richard Swiderski
do not archive
R & G, et al,
<<10k is our legal limit. I wonder if one can get permission to do that
on a one time basis?>>
<<18000 and up is class A controlled with IFR equip aircraft and IFR
cert pilot. So I thought 17999 was the limit. Can some one clarify?>>
Presume Richard is referring to the requirement for a Mode C transponder
above 10,000 feet MSL or 2,500 feet AGL, whichever is higher (not to
mention the area around Class B and Class C airports).
Yes, you can get one-time and even recurring exemptions. Contact the
ARTCC responsible for your area and see what they want in terms of prior
notice, radios, location, etc. Be nice, granting exemptions is their
option.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Building Original FireStar
Message 31
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Titan 10 gal gas tanks |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
I lost my e mail about the tanks and could not find any thing on them using
the search engine. I would like to order 2 tanks from Titan. Would the guy who
had the pictures and purchase info please copy me on them . Thank you Rick Pearce
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|