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1. 02:44 AM - [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? (Matt Dralle)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: Norm Labhart (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
3. 06:35 AM - Re: Horrible news (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
4. 06:36 AM - Re: Norm Labhart (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
5. 08:56 AM - Kolb Extra crash (ray anderson)
6. 10:21 AM - Re: Kolb Extra crash (Lee.Creech@ky.gov)
7. 10:57 AM - Re: Norm Labhart (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
8. 11:14 AM - Re: Kolb Extra crash (John Williamson)
9. 11:31 AM - Norm Labhart (Judy or Larry Gitt)
10. 11:57 AM - Re: Kolb Extra crash (David M. Lehman)
11. 12:07 PM - Boom tubes... (Jeremy Casey)
12. 01:11 PM - Re: Boom tubes... (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
13. 01:22 PM - Re: Norm Labhart (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
14. 03:05 PM - Re: Norm Labhart (John Cooley)
15. 03:39 PM - FSII mods for a 582 (Richard Pike)
16. 04:06 PM - Re: FSII mods for a 582 (HShack@aol.com)
17. 04:53 PM - Norm (Paul Petty)
18. 05:10 PM - Re: Boom tubes... (bryan green)
19. 10:22 PM - Re: FSII mods for a 582 (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and
also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here
provide a far better experience than the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
garbage that seems to build up in a typical email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is
outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of
messages on line for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where
also building RVs. It has grown into well over 50 different
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13,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the List email system forwards
well over 32,000,000 (yes, that's 32 MILLION) email messages to subscribers
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value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still
providing and improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free.
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows
in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email
Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be
here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free,
that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and
receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
The SSL Secure Contribution Web Site:
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Thank you,
Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Re: Norm Labhart |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Hi Tim,
You are correct. It is a very sad day.
It is a great loss to all of us kolbers.
We all grieve for Norm and his family and the passenger and are praying for
a complete recovery him.
Please keep them in your thoughts.
Take care Tim,
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Gherkins Tim-rp3420
<rp3420@freescale.com>
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I am really sad. This is a great loss to us kolbers. I will miss him.
>
> Tim Gherkins
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clay Stuart
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
>
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
>
> Here is the link to the newspaper article:
>
> http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/10192582.htm
>
> Sadly,
> Clay Stuart
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Horrible news |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Hi Rex,
Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
We really appreciate them as I know Norm's family does.
W are printing all messages an passing them to Dana, Norm's wife. They will
help comfort her in the days to come.
Again thank you Rex.
Take care.
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Horrible news
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
>
> This is very sad news. Norm was the factory test pilot and I believe
> was G.M. of TNK at one time. I met him about five years ago. He was
> always very courteous, kind and helpful. A gentleman in every sense of
> the word. I had the privilege of flying with him at the fly-in this
> summer. Our thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.
>
> Rex Rodebush
>
> Time: 08:21:42 PM PST US
> From: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Horrible news
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
>
> Just heard and saw on Lexington TV that Norm Labhart was killed today in
> the
> crash of the factory Mark IIIXtra.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Norm Labhart |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Hi Ken,
Thank you very much for your message.
All prayers are greatly appreciated by us and Norm's family.
Again thank you.
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> May the god of their understanding remain close to the Labhart family.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kolb Extra crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
We may never know what really happened, but there are a number of possible
scenarios when experienced pilots have this occur. There have been numerous
incidents similar to this one with the same results, and it can sneak up on any
of us. With two aboard, the EXTRA had a relatively high wing loading, and a
modestly high stall, 41mph. At mid day, approaching over wooded areas, strange
and unexpected air turbulence, wind shear, etc. is not uncommon, as we have all
experienced. If approaching at near stall, even airline pilots have been caught
in these conditions and were unable to recover. ( I try to keep a little
extra speed when approaching for landing over wooded areas around mid day, when
strange bumps start appearing. Scary!! )
In the EXTRA with a high thrust line and high wing loading, the most experienced
pilot couldn't recover from wind shear. It's almost like the proverbial
"act of God". A ballistic chute might have caught it if they were above 100-150
ft. I'm glad I now have one on the UltraStar. I believe the passenger had
recently inquired in the Kolb list asking if anyone knows of a used one for
sale, to be placed on the Kolb he is thinking of buying.
Just one thought of many I'm sure will be given.
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| Subject: | Kolb Extra crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lee.Creech@ky.gov
Just to add my 2 cents' worth, the preliminary FAA report said that there
was no wind at the nearest reporting point (London?) at the time of the
accident. It was a still, cloudy day here 80 miles north; I think those
conditions were general across the region. Wind shear seems fairly unlikely
under these circumstances -- especially bearing in mind an experienced pilot
who was very familiar with both the airplane and the strip. A power loss or
other mechanical problem on final approach might be more likely. But we can
only speculate.
Lee in Ky
Firestar II
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: ray anderson [mailto:rsanoa@yahoo.com]
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Extra crash
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
We may never know what really happened, but there are a number of
possible scenarios when experienced pilots have this occur. There have been
numerous incidents similar to this one with the same results, and it can
sneak up on any of us. With two aboard, the EXTRA had a relatively high wing
loading, and a modestly high stall, 41mph. At mid day, approaching over
wooded areas, strange and unexpected air turbulence, wind shear, etc. is not
uncommon, as we have all experienced. If approaching at near stall, even
airline pilots have been caught in these conditions and were unable to
recover. ( I try to keep a little extra speed when approaching for landing
over wooded areas around mid day, when strange bumps start appearing.
Scary!! )
In the EXTRA with a high thrust line and high wing loading, the most
experienced pilot couldn't recover from wind shear. It's almost like the
proverbial "act of God". A ballistic chute might have caught it if they were
above 100-150 ft. I'm glad I now have one on the UltraStar. I believe the
passenger had recently inquired in the Kolb list asking if anyone knows of a
used one for sale, to be placed on the Kolb he is thinking of buying.
Just one thought of many I'm sure will be given.
---------------------------------
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Norm Labhart |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
All,
We are sorry to hear the sad news of the accident at Chesnut Knolls.
Although I never knew Norm or Chris, the Kolb family is a close one and my
sympathy is with the family and friends of Norm, and I wish a speedy
recovery for Chris.
Kind Regards
Mike the kiwi
UK Distributor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
>
> Here is the link to the newspaper article:
>
> http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/10192582.htm
>
> Sadly,
> Clay Stuart
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kolb Extra crash |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Fellow Kolbers,
The worst thing to do after an accident is to speculate on what went wrong
in an open forum.
If you must speculate, please keep it private.
We may hear some facts when Chris recovers.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 699 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
Zenith CH701 Project
http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Judy or Larry Gitt" <gittj@earthlink.net>
Sorry, to hear the loss of one of us Kolb flyers , Maybe some one May have a picture
of Norm and some History of his life to pass on to us.
And Chris Davis, Get well with speed of light as im sure you wish the same.
are thoughts are with you.and the family's . Larry
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| Subject: | Kolb Extra crash |
From": "\364\277\364 David M. Leh..."@matronics.com
--> Kolb-List message posted by: " David M. Lehman" <kolbypilot@yahoo.com>
Good advice John...
Everyone wants to help, that's a good thing, and get
to the bottom of the cause ASAP to put closure to the
incident...
Unfortunately, sometimes it takes awhile to find a
root cause and we have to be patient...
DVD
--- John Williamson <kolbrapilot@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> Fellow Kolbers,
>
> The worst thing to do after an accident is to
> speculate on what went wrong
> in an open forum.
>
> If you must speculate, please keep it private.
>
> We may hear some facts when Chris recovers.
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 699 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
> Zenith CH701 Project
> http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
>
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
=====
DVD
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
I am looking for a source for 5" diameter 6061-T6 tubes .063 (or there
about) wall thickness.Basically the same tube used on Drifter's, Kolb's,
Rans S12/14, etc.
Any help appreciated.have had no luck finding a source at all, let alone
a cheap source, let alone convenient. ;-(
Dillsburg doesn't stock them anymore.
6063 would be acceptable.
Jeremy Casey
KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc.
jeremy@kilocharlie.us
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| Subject: | Re: Boom tubes... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Hi Jeremy,
Since you do not want the 6063T6 that we use, all I can suggest is that you
contact a metals manufacturer and ask for "Breather Quality" tubes in the
6061T6 and see if they an help you.
We were told that this was the "highest quality" tubing with the least dents
and scratches.
We order 2000' of each size from Kaiser, through TW Metals, and we purchase
the stock over a year time frame.
If you cannot do this, I do not have any other suggestions.
Take care Jeremy,
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Subject: Kolb-List: Boom tubes...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
>
> I am looking for a source for 5" diameter 6061-T6 tubes .063 (or there
> about) wall thickness.Basically the same tube used on Drifter's, Kolb's,
> Rans S12/14, etc.
>
> Any help appreciated.have had no luck finding a source at all, let alone
> a cheap source, let alone convenient. ;-(
>
> Dillsburg doesn't stock them anymore.
>
> 6063 would be acceptable.
>
>
> Jeremy Casey
> KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc.
> jeremy@kilocharlie.us
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Norm Labhart |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your sympathy and caring.
We are printing all messages and forwarding them to Dana, Norm's wife.
I know they will help comfort her in the days ahead.
Thanks so much for being with us.
Take care Mike,
Linda
PS
I talked with Donnie about your kits.
Patrick's kit is crated and ready to go.
Robert's kit will be picked up from powder coat tomorrow.
We will try to ship on Monday, 11/29, after our Thanksgiving holiday.
We will close at 12:00 noon tomorrow, Thursday and re-open on Monday for the
services for Norm.
Any questions before then, call Donnie.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd"
<kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
>
> All,
> We are sorry to hear the sad news of the accident at Chesnut Knolls.
> Although I never knew Norm or Chris, the Kolb family is a close one and my
> sympathy is with the family and friends of Norm, and I wish a speedy
> recovery for Chris.
>
> Kind Regards
> Mike the kiwi
> UK Distributor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
> >
> > Here is the link to the newspaper article:
> >
> > http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/10192582.htm
> >
> > Sadly,
> > Clay Stuart
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Cooley" <johnc@datasync.com>
Linda,
Please pass on my heart felt condolences also. I have never met Norm but
know from the things I have heard and read that he was a fine gentleman,
father and husband. I was anticipating meeting him one day at the Kolb
fly-in (maybe next year). Now that won't happen so I pray that I will meet
him in Heaven one fine day. I will keep the family in my prayers.
Sincerely,
John Cooley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of KOLB AIRCRAFT
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "KOLB AIRCRAFT"
<customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your sympathy and caring.
We are printing all messages and forwarding them to Dana, Norm's wife.
I know they will help comfort her in the days ahead.
Thanks so much for being with us.
Take care Mike,
Linda
PS
I talked with Donnie about your kits.
Patrick's kit is crated and ready to go.
Robert's kit will be picked up from powder coat tomorrow.
We will try to ship on Monday, 11/29, after our Thanksgiving holiday.
We will close at 12:00 noon tomorrow, Thursday and re-open on Monday for the
services for Norm.
Any questions before then, call Donnie.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd"
<kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
>
> All,
> We are sorry to hear the sad news of the accident at Chesnut Knolls.
> Although I never knew Norm or Chris, the Kolb family is a close one and my
> sympathy is with the family and friends of Norm, and I wish a speedy
> recovery for Chris.
>
> Kind Regards
> Mike the kiwi
> UK Distributor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Norm Labhart
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Clay Stuart" <tcstuart@adelphia.net>
> >
> > Here is the link to the newspaper article:
> >
> > http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/10192582.htm
> >
> > Sadly,
> > Clay Stuart
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | FSII mods for a 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
For those who asked, the pictures of the cage mods are up-
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm
Scroll to the bottom of the page, click on "FSII Mods."
Sorry for the terrible pictures, I had a lot to do today, and didn't take
the time to roll the fuselage outside. Better pictures in a week or so when
the wx improves.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
FSII N582EF (582Ed's Folly)
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| Subject: | Re: FSII mods for a 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 11/17/2004 6:39:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
richard@bcchapel.org writes:
For those who asked, the pictures of the cage mods are up-
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm
Scroll to the bottom of the page, click on "FSII Mods."
Got the web page; didn't see "FSII mods".
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
Kolbers,
I would like to express our heartfelt condolences to the family of our lost buddy
Norm Labhart. Norm was the first person to take me flying in a Kolb aircraft.
He was so kind to pick Charley and me up from the London airport late on a
Friday afternoon and get me in the air in the Mark III X-tra that I was wanting
to build at the time. I could tell that Norm loved flying Kolb aircraft and
on our maiden flight he said to me... " I can tell that you are a GA pilot because
we head out over to the north over the highway in this terrain" Although
I did not get to know him better, I feel that we was a very good pilot and very
careful in his time while airborne.
Charley and I both thought the world of Norm eventhough his driving scared the
pants of us in that racey sports car of his!!!!
Dana our hearts and prayers are with you and we are here for you.. God Bless...
With Love and Respect
Paul&Lynn Petty and Charley Harris
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Boom tubes... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
You might try www.metalsupermarket.com or just get one from TNK. You will
not find any cheap aluminum.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar I 19LBG 377 BRS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
Subject: Kolb-List: Boom tubes...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <n79rt@kilocharlie.us>
>
> I am looking for a source for 5" diameter 6061-T6 tubes .063 (or there
> about) wall thickness.Basically the same tube used on Drifter's, Kolb's,
> Rans S12/14, etc.
>
> Any help appreciated.have had no luck finding a source at all, let alone
> a cheap source, let alone convenient. ;-(
>
> Dillsburg doesn't stock them anymore.
>
> 6063 would be acceptable.
>
>
> Jeremy Casey
> KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc.
> jeremy@kilocharlie.us
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FSII mods for a 582 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
That's what happens when you get your internet service from
"Cheap Joe's" and your computer from Big Lots... :~)
Try it again. Hold down the "Ctrl" button and hit "refresh."
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive - hide the evidence
At 07:05 PM 11/17/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 11/17/2004 6:39:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>richard@bcchapel.org writes:
>For those who asked, the pictures of the cage mods are up-
>http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/kolb.htm
>
>Scroll to the bottom of the page, click on "FSII Mods."
>Got the web page; didn't see "FSII mods".
>
>Howard Shackleford
>FS II
>SC
>
>
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