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1. 06:15 AM - 5 Rib Firestar Wings (Ken korenek)
2. 07:29 AM - Re: 5 Rib Firestar Wings 0.12 HTML_TITLE_EMPTY BODY: HTML title contains no text (kfackler)
3. 09:20 AM - Re: 5 Rib Firestar Wings (Ken korenek)
4. 11:43 AM - Thanksgiving (bryan green)
5. 03:18 PM - Re: Vortex Generators (Land Shorter)
6. 04:36 PM - Re: vortex generators (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
7. 08:35 PM - Re: Siphon Tank (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
8. 09:25 PM - Re: vortex generators (possums)
9. 09:57 PM - Re: vortex generators (d7yl)
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| Subject: | 5 Rib Firestar Wings |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken korenek <kkorenek@comcast.net>
Kolbers,
A few days ago I posted that I need to get rid of a set of wings.
I have had several people contact me about them and ask what I want for
them.
When I said that I want $1000 and will take $750, I got a litany of
reasons why they are wanted, but it's a bit too much, got this expense,
or that one, Christmas coming, etc. I understand. We are into small
planes 'cause we're not rich. Otherwise, we'd all be in Bonanzas.
What I REALLY want are the wings out of the hangar but I'm not giving
them for free, so I have changed the amount that I'll take for 'em.
This is the deal: The first person that shows up at my doorstep or
gets a check in my hot little hand for anything more than fifteen cents
get's 'em.
Pay me what you feel you can afford and what they are worth to you and
what you feel I deserve for 'em, but I do want something.
The amount is up to you. Let your conscience be your guide.
This is a good deal for anyone.
The day I'm ready to move my Titan in the hangar, I will sweep it out
and empty the trash. And if there's still a set of wings in there...
Ken Korenek
Arlington, Texas
817-657-6500 cell
817-483-8054 home
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| Subject: | Re: 5 Rib Firestar Wings 0.12 HTML_TITLE_EMPTY |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
That's a GREAT deal. I'm surprised you didn't try to use an online auction,
tho. Good luck!
-Ken
do not archive
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From: "Ken korenek" <kkorenek@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: 5 Rib Firestar Wings 0.12 HTML_TITLE_EMPTY BODY: HTML
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken korenek <kkorenek@comcast.net>
>
> Kolbers,
>
> A few days ago I posted that I need to get rid of a set of wings.
>
> I have had several people contact me about them and ask what I want for
> them.
>
> When I said that I want $1000 and will take $750, I got a litany of
> reasons why they are wanted, but it's a bit too much, got this expense,
> or that one, Christmas coming, etc. I understand. We are into small
> planes 'cause we're not rich. Otherwise, we'd all be in Bonanzas.
>
>
> What I REALLY want are the wings out of the hangar but I'm not giving
> them for free, so I have changed the amount that I'll take for 'em.
>
>
> This is the deal: The first person that shows up at my doorstep or
> gets a check in my hot little hand for anything more than fifteen cents
> get's 'em.
>
> Pay me what you feel you can afford and what they are worth to you and
> what you feel I deserve for 'em, but I do want something.
>
> The amount is up to you. Let your conscience be your guide.
>
> This is a good deal for anyone.
>
> The day I'm ready to move my Titan in the hangar, I will sweep it out
> and empty the trash. And if there's still a set of wings in there...
>
> Ken Korenek
> Arlington, Texas
> 817-657-6500 cell
> 817-483-8054 home
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 5 Rib Firestar Wings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ken korenek <kkorenek@comcast.net>
They're Sold!
A "non -Kolb" Tennesseean gave me his word and will be here Friday evening.
Ken Korenek
Arlington, Texas
817-657-6500 cell
817-483-8054 home
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Happy Thanksgiving to all. Most of us can find a lot to be thankful for. Do not
archive
Bryan Green (Elgin SC)
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Land Shorter <landshorter2@yahoo.com>
Sorry, forgot to mention the aircraft type. This fellow had a Ridgerunner and
came to mind because he had just called me after coming back from doing the tests.
To say he was happy is an understatement :)
I am working on a "testimonials" page and will publish actual quotes from customers.
Just need a few more hours in the day to do it :)
Joa
www.landshorter.com
John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
They work fantastic on fabric covered wings.
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| In fact I just recently got a report from a fellow that did very
accurate takeoff-distance tests and after installing my VGs he
consistently got 25% - 30% shorter takeoffs.
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| Joa
Joa/Gang:
That is an amazing improvement. Any better and he would be hovering.
;-)
What kind of aircraft are we talking about?
If it is not a Kolb aircraft, how does it compare to our Kolbs'
performance?
Do you have any other information about this test other than
"fantastic" results?
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: vortex generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
possums wrote:
> I think the "home made ones" would work just as well, but I don't like the
> way they look..
> Here are some pictures of 88 of the "lexan" VGs on my plane.
> See if you notice them.
> They are installed about 6 1/2 inches back from the leading edge.
> Click "view the slide show" to see all the pictures
> .... and I know my plane needs washing.
> http://possums.photosite.com/vgs/
Hello Possums,
I noticed on your photo page of the VG's that there are different
spacings. How do you determine which one to use? And what is the reason
for different spacings? ~ Earl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
In a message dated 11/23/04 11:45:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, vicw@vcn.com
writes:
> The plumbing is quite simple. There are no valves
Vic,
That is absolutely brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
Do Not Archive
Bill Varnes
Original FireStar
Audubon NJ
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| Subject: | Re: vortex generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 07:35 PM 11/24/2004, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
>
>
>Hello Possums,
> I noticed on your photo page of the VG's that there are different
>spacings. How do you determine which one to use? And what is the reason
>for different spacings? ~ Earl
I wasn't really sure which one to use since I have scalloped wings
and can't just space them out evenly over the length of the wings
like you might do on a Cub.
The instructions say VG's should be placed about 1% of the wingspan apart.
I have a 27' 9" wing span.
So I put two in each valley and used the 2.75 inch spacing guide
to "kind of space them out" between each rib and false rib etc.
Just a guess, but it seemed to work out OK. It takes two of these
to equal on of the homemade ones.
I just put two on at a time and moved the guide to the next set of ribs.
I used the T-square method like Ben Ransom for the set back
and put them about 6 1/2 inches back from the LE.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Vortex%20Generators.html
My average cord (including the ailerons) is about 60 inches.
The instructions say to use double stick tape until you
find the optimum location or "sweet spot" and then glue them
later. I think I will just leave them stuck on with the tape I got
at the auto paint shop - it seems pretty strong.
It took more time to put the tape on each VG than it did
to put the VGs on the plane.
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| Subject: | Re: vortex generators |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "d7yl" <d7yl@telus.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "possums" <possums@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: vortex generators
>
> ... I think I will just leave them stuck on with the tape I got
> at the auto paint shop - it seems pretty strong.
You've got to ask yourself? 1) how long is the glue going to hold up? 2)
What happens when those bitty pieces of plastic/metal/whatever go flying
through your prop?
regards,
Dar7yl
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