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1. 04:25 AM - Re: 'Chutes .... (Airgriff2@aol.com)
2. 05:53 AM - Re: 'Chutes .... (Richard Pike)
3. 09:52 AM - Re: FS II construction (PATRICK LADD)
4. 09:57 AM - (Carl Trollope)
5. 10:37 AM - Re: kolb clank (ul15rhb@juno.com)
6. 10:56 AM - Re: (Richard Pike)
7. 11:10 AM - Re: FS II construction (John Hauck)
8. 11:14 AM - Re: FS II construction (Richard Pike)
9. 01:28 PM - Re: FS II construction (PATRICK LADD)
10. 01:34 PM - Re: FS II construction (Larry Bourne)
11. 02:30 PM - Re: mo CG (PATRICK LADD)
12. 02:51 PM - Re: FS II construction (robert bean)
13. 03:01 PM - Boom Tube / chicken or the egg (Mike Pierzina)
14. 03:18 PM - Re: mo CG (John Hauck)
15. 04:10 PM - Re: mo CG (Don Gherardini)
16. 04:32 PM - Re: mo CG (ray anderson)
17. 04:41 PM - Re: mo CG (Kirk Smith)
18. 04:49 PM - Re: Boom Tube / chicken or the egg (Larry Bourne)
19. 04:50 PM - Re: mo CG (John Hauck)
20. 05:10 PM - Re: mo CG (John Williamson)
21. 05:11 PM - Re: (HShack@aol.com)
22. 05:45 PM - Re: mo CG (bryan green)
23. 06:43 PM - Re: mo CG (ray anderson)
24. 07:09 PM - Re: (Larry Cottrell)
25. 07:16 PM - Cable Clanking or Clunking (John Hauck)
26. 07:30 PM - 2005 Flying Season (John Williamson)
27. 07:32 PM - Re: mo CG (John Hauck)
28. 07:51 PM - Re: 2005 Flying Season (John Hauck)
29. 08:13 PM - Re: mo CG (ray anderson)
30. 08:51 PM - Re: mo CG (David M. Lehman)
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| Subject: | Re: 'Chutes .... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Hi tim, about you chute. I have been flying my MK3 with Second Chantz's soft
pack 1000 lb chute in the gap seal over my headsince 1995. It was their
first set up as such and was on display at Sun & Fun. I have the chute inspected
every 5 yrs. and if I ever need to deploy it, I woud assume that the ballistic
part would fire. If it don't I'm gonna be real upset!!
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
MK# C Ser.#98
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| Subject: | Re: 'Chutes .... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
If it is a softpack, it can be inspected and repacked. If it has the
nitrogen cannister launcher, and the pressure needle is still in the green,
you ought to be fine.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 07:24 PM 12/15/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
>
>here's a question for "the list".... i have a Second
>Chantz chute that's about 15 or 20 years old that's
>never been deployed, is it still good? ..tim
>
>
>__________________________________
>http://my.yahoo.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: FS II construction |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Would it be easier to insert tube into cage and
temporarily secure it; mark for the 3/8"holes; remove
tube and install H-section; reinsert and then attach
and align tailfeathers? >>
Hi all,
I have not even seen my kit yet but this query had me wondering. Seeing that
this is a critical point why don`t Kolb drill the holes in the boom in the
factory where they have jigs and drills to guarantee accuracy?
My Challenger kit came pre drilled in such a way that it is impossible to
build a cranky machine. Likewise wing struts were made to measure ensuring
proper alignment and dihedral.
This is such a small operation where factory jigs are available but darned
tricky for the guy working in his garage.
Cheers
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
hi,
When taxying and also when flying I can hear a metallic rattling coming from
the tail boom...... This appears to be the rudder cables.....?
Does anyone else have this problem..... Andany suggestion as to a cure.....?
Carl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ul15rhb@juno.com" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
hi,
When taxying and also when flying I can hear a metallic rattling coming from
the tail boom...... This appears to be the rudder cables.....?
Does anyone else have this problem..... Andany suggestion as to a cure.....?
Carl
This is the rudder/elevator cables hitting the bottom of the fuse tube. It's called
the "Kolb Clank". Every one of them do it unless the builder has added some
foam inside to prevent it from striking the tube. This clanking does not degrade
the cables as I have had this for 18 years of flying and the cables are
still fine.
The cables, however, may need to be tightened with the turnbuckles if they are
too loose. Be careful not to tighten them too much or the fork in the turnbuckle
could fracture causing loss of elevator control. If the bolt holding the elevator
turnbuckle cannot be turned with your fingers, it's too tight.
Ralph
Original Firestar
18 years flying it
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
It is the rudder cables, and yes, everyone has this problem. The cure is to
commit aviation verrryyy smoothly. Unfortunately, none of us have yet
attained a cure...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 05:57 PM 12/16/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
>
>hi,
>
>
>When taxying and also when flying I can hear a metallic rattling coming from
>the tail boom...... This appears to be the rudder cables.....?
>
>
>Does anyone else have this problem..... Andany suggestion as to a cure.....?
>
>
>Carl
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FS II construction |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Pat/Gang:
|Seeing that
| this is a critical point why don`t Kolb drill the holes in the boom
in the
| factory where they have jigs and drills to guarantee accuracy?
Every time the factory completes another task to reduce build time, it
increases the overall kit price.
There are more operations completed at The New Kolb Aircraft factory
than by the Old Kolb factory.
| My Challenger kit came pre drilled in such a way that it is
impossible to
| build a cranky machine. Likewise wing struts were made to measure
ensuring
| proper alignment and dihedral.
The more tasks the company completes, the less challenging the
builders tasks. Anyone that builds a Kolb aircraft, completes all
phases of it himself, surely has an adventurous spirit and is not
afraid of a challenge.
I, personally, was apprehensive about buying my Ultrastar kit. I had
never built an airplane, not even a model. Homer Kolb, personally
insured me I was up to the task when I met him at Sun and Fun, March
1984. My brother also told me I could do it. It was a challenge with
a wonderful reward. The gift of flight. A little critter I created
in my own basement. Eight years after I made my last Huey flight in
the Army, I was flying over Elmore County, Alabama, in my own home
built airplane.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: FS II construction |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Accuracy is easy to attain, the problem is that sometimes the tube fits so
snugly into the steel fuselage ring (which is a good thing) that it becomes
problematic to install the tail first, and then attempt to rotate the tube
into alignment. We had this problem with the FSII, we had to disassemble
the tube from the fuselage and then reinstall it, and trying to get it
aligned back into place was tough. Once aligned, everything fit perfect
(all the original holes realigned), but it was not easy. (It only takes a
half a degree for the holes not to align) I would go for assembling the
tube into the fuselage first, then put the tail on. And then hope you don't
need to take it apart again...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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At 05:52 PM 12/16/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
>Would it be easier to insert tube into cage and
>temporarily secure it; mark for the 3/8"holes; remove
>tube and install H-section; reinsert and then attach
>and align tailfeathers? >>
>
>Hi all,
>I have not even seen my kit yet but this query had me wondering. Seeing that
>this is a critical point why don`t Kolb drill the holes in the boom in the
>factory where they have jigs and drills to guarantee accuracy?
>My Challenger kit came pre drilled in such a way that it is impossible to
>build a cranky machine. Likewise wing struts were made to measure ensuring
>proper alignment and dihedral.
>This is such a small operation where factory jigs are available but darned
>tricky for the guy working in his garage.
>
>Cheers
>
>Pat
>
>pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FS II construction |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Every time the factory completes another task to reduce build time, it
increases the overall kit price.>>
Hi John,
you are quite right of course. It just seems that those holes are so
critical, and getting them wrong could wreck the tube, that dollar versus
time/risk would make it a good bet.
The kit building fraternity seems to drop into two categories. Those whose
greatest pleasure is building and don`t really care how long it takes and
those who want to fly as soon as possible. Neither is right or wrong .
I want to fly as quickly as I can and with my level of engineering expertise
I would like the holes drilles for me. If I can drill `em wrong you can bet
your boots I shall.
Cheers
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
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| Subject: | Re: FS II construction |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Then you'll join a large club, of which I'm a charter member. :-)
Been There Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FS II construction
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> I would like the holes drilles for me. If I can drill `em wrong you can
> bet
> your boots I shall.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I like your writing style and your sense of humor, as
well as your level of knowledge.>>
Hi Lar,
nice to hear from you. I am not at all sure about the `level of knowledge`
bit. Seems that that there are a lot of conflicting opinions about and when
John Hauk, with all his experience, says that he has never done a weight and
balance and Kolbs never supplied any data to check it against anyhow, it
makes me wonder.
Your method of hanging the aircraft from a string to find the C of G is
straight forward to say the least. It does have its limitations. Will your
garage roof trusses support a Cessna?
Doing a W and B is simple.
In essence, stand the machines 3 wheels on three scales in flying position,
and multiply the weight obtained by the distance from the nose.This gives 3
answers. Those for each main wheel should be the same.This will give a total
figure (moment) in inch/lbs Then divide that figure by the empty weight and
it will give you the C of G in inches from the nose.
If you do the same for a loaded a/c you will obtain the range. Of course if
the manufacturer has not told you what that figure should be you are not
much farther forward and I can only suggest that you get someone else to fly
it before you.
We shall not get to your side of the USA this year. We are flying to
Atlanta, driving across Georgia and down the coast to Canaveral, which I
haven`t seen for about 20 years and then swing inland to hit Sun`n `Fun
about the Tuesday/Wednesday .
Plans after that are a bit fluid. Probably down the Gulf coast and back to
Miami to fly home around 29/30th. Wendy has decided that we do it in style
so its First Class across the Atlantic both ways. Thankfully using up a lot
of my accumulated air miles so it won`t be too painful. I am not keen on
going at all to tell the truth as the kit will be part built by then (I
hope) but I want to talk to anyone on the Kolb stand and maybe get a flight.
We are going up to the Isle of Skye for New Year,( weather permitting)
hoping to sample one or two Single Malts among the Highland Dancing etc.,
and we have a timeshare in the Island of Tenerife, off the coast of Africa,
which we shall visit in February. You can see that we are facing a really
hard start to 2005.
Its a tough life, but someone has to do it...
Keep the windmills turning
Cheers
Pat
pj.ladd@btinternet.com
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| Subject: | Re: FS II construction |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
It's late in the day to add to thisun, but I'll add to the John H.
offering.
Kolb building is more an art than a science. -Lined up along the
runway they all look alike but each has it's builder within.
I have to confess to having a mongrel, some parts built by me,
some by a professional "ghost builder" in FL, a wrecked cage
from Oregon. So all my holes were already drilled for the boom
tube. I was a touch chagrined when I whacked 'em together and
the tail had a (very) small tilt to it. Even after every little
compensation
I could add it wasn't perfect....acceptable though.
Then I attacked a slight dent in the boom tube right in front of where
the tailwheel spring tube slides, hammer, bash, etc. After
I got that coaxed into where it oughtta be, saints presarve us, it
was perfect!
-BB, master hammer mekanik do not archive
On 16, Dec 2004, at 12:52 PM, PATRICK LADD wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> Would it be easier to insert tube into cage and
> temporarily secure it; mark for the 3/8"holes; remove
> tube and install H-section; reinsert and then attach
> and align tailfeathers? >>
>
> Hi all,
> I have not even seen my kit yet but this query had me wondering.
> Seeing that
> this is a critical point why don`t Kolb drill the holes in the boom in
> the
> factory where they have jigs and drills to guarantee accuracy?
> My Challenger kit came pre drilled in such a way that it is impossible
> to
> build a cranky machine. Likewise wing struts were made to measure
> ensuring
> proper alignment and dihedral.
> This is such a small operation where factory jigs are available but
> darned
> tricky for the guy working in his garage.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> pj.ladd@btinternet.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Boom Tube / chicken or the egg |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
I built the tail on my FSII according to the builders manual....
but after the whole skeleton is built....
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/12building5.jpg
I had to take EVERYTHING apart...Hinges , cables, bolts,...(a good system for
marking the hinges came in handy)
So, just don't POUND that boom tube into the cage too hard...from what I've heard...everybody
has had to do alittle grinding on the cage "ring" before the
boom tube would fit ( still looking for a tight fit )
Because it's easier to fabric the pieces separately...
My 2cents worth...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
FSII/ 381PM
Do not archive
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|Seems that that there are a lot of conflicting opinions about and
when
| John Hauk, with all his experience, says that he has never done a
weight and
| balance and Kolbs never supplied any data to check it against
anyhow, it
| makes me wonder.
Pat/All:
Wonder about what?
It was the way it was in the 1980's.
Homer said if it was built to plans, it would fly safely. Who am I to
doubt Homer Kolb's word. I built them and I flew them. And......I
must say, they flew beautifully, just like my old MKIII.
Think I said the were hundreds, more like thousands of Homer Kolb's
designs out there flying safely, without the luxury of an official
weight and balance.
Reckon we did the ultralight thing a little different on this side of
the pond. ;-)
Take care,
john h
PS: And to think, Homer Kolb flew my Firestar at Sun and Fun 1988,
without a weight and balance. Whatever was he thinking?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
John,
I too remember those days in the 80's. I was a Weedhopper dealer and John
Chotia never sent any W& B info with those either. Everytime I sold one to a
GA pilot..I always got the call after they were built..."Where is the Weight
an balance info?"...I also remember there were none for quicksilvers...or
none for Chinooks in those days...I had no expierience with Kolbs back
then...and there were none around here, but I sure am not suprised there was
no W&B data given then by Homer. We were just supposed to build em according
to the plans. I dont ever remember haveing to ever add weight to either end
of a bird to get it to fly right either. just get up the nerve to fly em and
come back down and trim it out.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
All,
I keep reading that Homer didn't supply W&B information for the early
UltraStar. Not so. I posted it from the official builders handbook we received
with our kits. Here it is again.
Maybe most builders chose to ignore it but Homer felt it important enough to include.
" The Ultra Star should balance with the pilot in the seat at the
25% to 30% chord position. 16" to 19" from the leading edge of the wing.
The centerline of the 1" square tube that the wings attach to is 18"
from the leading edge. To check the balance hang the UltraStar from a
point within this 3" range, and with the pilot sitting in the seat, the
plane should balance. The fuselage tube will be at a 10 to 12 degree
angle ( tail lower than front) when the plane is considered balanced.
In any case you never want to have a tail heavy condition, this is
where the balance point would be further rearward than 19". A tail
heavy condition is dangerous and must be avoided".
Don Gherardini <donghe@one-eleven.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini"
John,
I too remember those days in the 80's. I was a Weedhopper dealer and John
Chotia never sent any W& B info with those either. Everytime I sold one to a
GA pilot..I always got the call after they were built..."Where is the Weight
an balance info?"...I also remember there were none for quicksilvers...or
none for Chinooks in those days...I had no expierience with Kolbs back
then...and there were none around here, but I sure am not suprised there was
no W&B data given then by Homer. We were just supposed to build em according
to the plans. I dont ever remember haveing to ever add weight to either end
of a bird to get it to fly right either. just get up the nerve to fly em and
come back down and trim it out.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
----- . The fuselage tube will be at a 10 to 12 degree
> angle ( tail lower than front) when the plane is considered balanced.
Now that's interesting!!!!! Tail lower?
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| Subject: | Re: Boom Tube / chicken or the egg |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Yah, 'tis truth. After carefully grinding off weld protrusions, etc., it
turned out that Vamoose' ring wasn't quite round. Hadta squeeze the boom
tube *carefully* with a padded clamp. To get it back out, I made many
wraps of duct tape to hold a loop of rope on the tail end of it and used a
heavy piece of pipe to thump against the loop - something like an improvised
slide hammer. Now that I think so far back, seems to me I used a couple of
hitches with each end of the rope on the tail boom to give some friction
before taping the ends down. On the hinges, I just marked each one with a
permanent felt tip. "Left outboard aileron, left center aileron, etc."
Also marked each one for "in" and "out," too, so's I'd know which end was
which. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Boom Tube / chicken or the egg
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
> I built the tail on my FSII according to the builders manual....
> but after the whole skeleton is built....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/12building5.jpg
>
> I had to take EVERYTHING apart...Hinges , cables, bolts,...(a good
> system for marking the hinges came in handy)
>
> So, just don't POUND that boom tube into the cage too hard...from what
> I've heard...everybody has had to do alittle grinding on the cage "ring"
> before the boom tube would fit ( still looking for a tight fit )
>
> Because it's easier to fabric the pieces separately...
>
> My 2cents worth...
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
> FSII/ 381PM
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> My Web Site:
> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
>
>
> Sometimes you just have to take the leap
> and build your wings on the way down...
> Gotta Fly...
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
the early UltraStar. Not so. I posted it from the official builders
handbook we received with our kits. Here it is again.
| Maybe most builders chose to ignore it but Homer felt it important
enough to include.
Ray A
Ray/Gang:
I have no doubt what you quote from your US Manual. After the third
time you posted, I have it memorized. hehehe
Your US Manual was not the only manual published by Old Kolb for the
US. I have mine around here somewhere. Just can't put my finger on
it right now. However, way back in the back of my US Manual was a
paragraph reference W&B, just like yours. If I remember correctly, it
was put there for those that felt they needed it, not necessarily
recommended by the factory to complete. I'll find my US Manual and
probably prove myself wrong, but don't think so. I was very conscious
of anything the factory guys had to say or put in print. I did not
want to do anything to jeapordize me or my first homebuilt airplane.
Also remember hearing Homer Kolb talk about this method of checking to
see if you and your US were within cg limits.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
If you want to know everything the FAA has to say about weight and balance,
then you need to read the book.
The book is written for airplanes and helicopters but since ultralights are
close to being an aircraft, you could use the same principles. :)
The following is from the FAA website:
FAA-H-8083-1, Aircraft Weight and Balance Handbook
Subject: This handbook has been prepared in recognition of the importance of
weight and balance technology in conducting safe and efficient flight.
Modified: 7/16/2003 12:42:24 PM [17055k]
http://av-info.faa.gov/data/traininghandbook/faa-s-8083-1.pdf
After reading the book, if you still have questions you need to talk to a
local flight instructor. Or for $25 per hour I will talk with you about it
or for $5 a question I will email answers... :)
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
CFI, CFII, AMEL, ASEL
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 703 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
Zenith CH701 Project
http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 12/16/2004 12:58:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
flash_too@yahoo.co.uk writes:
When taxying and also when flying I can hear a metallic rattling coming from
the tail boom...... This appears to be the rudder cables.....?
Does anyone else have this problem..... Andany suggestion as to a cure.....?
Carl
A better headset??
It's a Kolb; it's supposed to clank.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Thanks John I'll take a five dollar Question. If I eat a lot over the
Holidays will it make me more or less tail heavy? LOL Do not archive
John Williamson wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
>If you want to know everything the FAA has to say about weight and balance,
>then you need to read the book.
>
>The book is written for airplanes and helicopters but since ultralights are
>close to being an aircraft, you could use the same principles. :)
>
>The following is from the FAA website:
>
>FAA-H-8083-1, Aircraft Weight and Balance Handbook
>Subject: This handbook has been prepared in recognition of the importance of
>weight and balance technology in conducting safe and efficient flight.
>Modified: 7/16/2003 12:42:24 PM [17055k]
>http://av-info.faa.gov/data/traininghandbook/faa-s-8083-1.pdf
>
>After reading the book, if you still have questions you need to talk to a
>local flight instructor. Or for $25 per hour I will talk with you about it
>or for $5 a question I will email answers... :)
>
>
>John Williamson
>Arlington, TX
>
>CFI, CFII, AMEL, ASEL
>
>
>Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 703 hours
>http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>Zenith CH701 Project
>http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
>http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
John,
Sorry about posting three times. When one is 86, I guess slips like that
occur. My apologies. Ray
John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
| I keep reading that Homer didn't supply W&B information for
the early UltraStar. Not so. I posted it from the official builders
handbook we received with our kits. Here it is again.
| Maybe most builders chose to ignore it but Homer felt it important
enough to include.
Ray A
Ray/Gang:
I have no doubt what you quote from your US Manual. After the third
time you posted, I have it memorized. hehehe
Your US Manual was not the only manual published by Old Kolb for the
US. I have mine around here somewhere. Just can't put my finger on
it right now. However, way back in the back of my US Manual was a
paragraph reference W&B, just like yours. If I remember correctly, it
was put there for those that felt they needed it, not necessarily
recommended by the factory to complete. I'll find my US Manual and
probably prove myself wrong, but don't think so. I was very conscious
of anything the factory guys had to say or put in print. I did not
want to do anything to jeapordize me or my first homebuilt airplane.
Also remember hearing Homer Kolb talk about this method of checking to
see if you and your US were within cg limits.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrel@kfalls.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Kolb-List:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
>
> hi,
>
>
> When taxying and also when flying I can hear a metallic rattling coming
> from
> the tail boom...... This appears to be the rudder cables.....?
>
>
> Does anyone else have this problem..... Andany suggestion as to a
> cure.....?
>
You might try a louder engine, I can hear mine clanking when taxiing but not
when flying- there fore a bigger engine will help with that problem. :-)
do not archive
Larry
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| Subject: | Cable Clanking or Clunking |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
taxiing but not
| when flying- there fore a bigger engine will help with that problem.
:-)
| do not archive
| Larry
Larry C/Gang:
I wasn't going to comment, but what the heck.
I have never heard my cables clanking in the air, nor do I hear them
on the ground, unless I have the headset off.
Sometimes concerned observers will get my attention after I stop
rolling, very seriously telling me their is something coming apart in
my airplane, recommending I check it out.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | 2005 Flying Season |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Fellow Kolb Flyers and everybody else:
It is never to early to start planning for the coming flying season.
With that in mind, I propose that we hold our 3rd Annual Kolb Gathering at
Monument Valley, UT (UT25) on May 20-22, 2005.
Here is a link to a calendar with a lot of the possible EAA Fly-Ins blocked
out on it:
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot/Photos/2005_Flying_Season.htm
If anyone has some other possible dates and places that we might congregate
at, please let us know.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 703 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
Zenith CH701 Project
http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
slips like that occur. My apologies. Ray
Ray/All:
No apologies necessary. I was trying to be humorous. I hope you did
not take my remarks personally.
Yep, I realize you are 86 years old, and certainly respect you for
your age, experience, and the era you grew up in. You have lived to
see a lot of change in our old world. Seems there are a lot of
elderly folks, I guess I can say "elderly" since I was officially
"elderly" according to the US Government when I hit 65, who have Kolb
aircraft for their hobby and means of staying in the air.
I apologize to you Sir, if I have offended you. It was not
intentional in any way.
I believe you said you started flying in 1943. I was out of diapers
by that time, but not by much. ;-)
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: 2005 Flying Season |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Gathering at
| Monument Valley, UT (UT25) on May 20-22, 2005.
John W/Gang:
Sounds good to me.
Got it on my calendar. Can be ready in 5 minutes.
I remain flexible. Can go any weekend in May.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
John,
Actually I soloed in 1935 in a Curtis Wright Jr. You are too young to
have ever heard of that one, with the three cylinder radial Szekley. I feel it
was your kind of airplane !!
John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
| Sorry about posting three times. When one is 86, I guess
slips like that occur. My apologies. Ray
Ray/All:
No apologies necessary. I was trying to be humorous. I hope you did
not take my remarks personally.
Yep, I realize you are 86 years old, and certainly respect you for
your age, experience, and the era you grew up in. You have lived to
see a lot of change in our old world. Seems there are a lot of
elderly folks, I guess I can say "elderly" since I was officially
"elderly" according to the US Government when I hit 65, who have Kolb
aircraft for their hobby and means of staying in the air.
I apologize to you Sir, if I have offended you. It was not
intentional in any way.
I believe you said you started flying in 1943. I was out of diapers
by that time, but not by much. ;-)
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David M. Lehman" <kolbypilot@yahoo.com>
Ray...
There was a Szekley for sale within the last couple of
weeks, I think it was on eBay... Szekley's had a
cable around the 3 cylinder heads to keep them from
blowing off!...
My Dad used to have a 40 hp Salmson in the back of the
shop, never put it on anything, he just liked the
looks of it... Although heavier, the Salmson (9 tiny
cylinders) was far superior to the Szekley...
In order to keep this Kolb oriented, "these engines
were way too heavy to install on a Kolb"...
Regards...
David
--- ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson
> <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
>
> John,
> Actually I soloed in 1935 in a Curtis
> Wright Jr. You are too young to have ever heard of
> that one, with the three cylinder radial Szekley. I
> feel it was your kind of airplane !!
=====
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