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1. 02:42 AM - Re: Center of Lift and CG (Carl Trollope)
2. 05:39 AM - mo CG (Edward Steuber)
3. 06:43 AM - Re: mo CG (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
4. 08:07 AM - Sport pilot Test (gittj)
5. 08:17 AM - Kolbra (gittj)
6. 09:25 AM - Test Prep / Kip's (Mike Pierzina)
7. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: 2005 Flying Season (George E. Thompson)
8. 11:52 AM - Re: Kolbra (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
9. 12:39 PM - Re: Kolbra (Kirk Smith)
10. 05:37 PM - Re: No Fly in Alabama (Kolbdriver)
11. 05:52 PM - Re: owners in tn. (Kolbdriver)
12. 06:18 PM - Re: owners in tn. (ray anderson)
13. 07:25 PM - [ Ray Anderson ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
14. 07:41 PM - [ Steve Boetto ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
15. 08:02 PM - Re: owners in tn. (John Hauck)
16. 09:13 PM - Re: Re: 2005 Flying Season (JIM HEFNER)
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| Subject: | Center of Lift and CG |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
Sailplane wings are long and thin because the tip vortex is very draggy...
so as much wing and as little tip is the most efficient way of doing things
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK LADD
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Center of Lift and CG
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
the front fourth generates very little lift,>>
Hi,
I think I shall have to disagree with that.
Sailplane wings, which without doubt are the most efficient wings in the
air are long and narrow.. This gived the exact opposite of your suggestion,
a very extended leading edge to main spar area.
The area from the main spar to the trailing edge is kept to a minimum .
Cheers
Pat
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
---- that you have in your experimental category, I am not sure if that is good
or bad.
Pat ,
It is good and bad ! First we get to do pretty much what we want
. When it works everybody wins. When it doesn't , the freedom to get hurt comes
into play....I was once told by an FAA inspector that the governments view
was that they don't care if I get killed as long as I don't cause somebody else
any harm because of my experimenting.... I don't think he liked me ! ....maybe
that is why in a single seat aircraft the use of emergency locators is not
mandatory .
Just think of the experimental category as the American way to
clean the "Aviation Gene Pool " .........
Works for us !
Ed in Western NY
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Ed,
I've been told that one of the concerns of the FAA regarding ultralights
is that the non-participating (if that's the right word) public is
protected, and that concern has been satisfied. No "innocent bystander" has
been hurt or killed by ultralights. Now I don't know how true the second
sentence is but the first one seems to agree with what your inspector is
saying. I believe it was Jim Stephenson of ASC who made the comment in one
of his seminars.
AzDave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Steuber" <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: mo CG
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber"
> <esteuber@rochester.rr.com>
>
> ---- that you have in your experimental category, I am not sure if that
> is good or bad.
>
> Pat ,
> It is good and bad ! First we get to do pretty much what we
> want . When it works everybody wins. When it doesn't , the freedom to get
> hurt comes into play....I was once told by an FAA inspector that the
> governments view was that they don't care if I get killed as long as I
> don't cause somebody else any harm because of my experimenting.... I
> don't think he liked me ! ....maybe that is why in a single seat aircraft
> the use of emergency locators is not mandatory .
> Just think of the experimental category as the American
> way to clean the "Aviation Gene Pool " .........
> Works for us !
>
> Ed in Western NY
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Sport pilot Test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "gittj" <gittj@earthlink.net>
Im just pass this along http://av-info.faa.gov/data/airmanknowledge/spg.htm some of you guys might like to read this. larry
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "gittj" <gittj@earthlink.net>
Say guys, There a BD5 long wing on ebay you can make a jet out of it or what ever
, Now that i got my kolbra , I live a little longer , So BD on the block .check
it out . 4512047396 Larry
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| Subject: | Test Prep / Kip's |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
I probly put this site address up here before...?
It a GOOD one...It uses the Jeppesen manuals.
http://www.exams4pilots.org/
It's good for short tests or longer one...I keep it bookmarked and I take alot
of the QUICK 10 question tests (no figures)
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN FSII/ 381PM
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
--
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| Subject: | Re: 2005 Flying Season |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
I too vote for the May 20-22 date for MV 2005, only because I would be
unable to attend the May 13-15 date.
"The Most Experienced Pilot" at the MV 2004 get together and to listen
to some advice, experiences and just maybe a little Bull stuff.
Az.. Bald Eagle
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: 2005 Flying Season
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
> Hi Dennis and all:
>
>>>Dennis wrote:
>>Kolb Friends -
>>I purpose we do Monument Valley the weekend prior: 13-15 May.
>>I missed MV last year, but am definitely planning to attend this year.
>>
>>Dennis Kirby
>>New Mexico
>
> I have your vote for the 13-15 May Dennis K.
>
> I picked the 20-22 May to allow several Kolbs to make the SWRFI Fly-in on
> the weekend after Mother's day and allow still not be out over the
> Memorial
> Day weekend.
>
> The 20-22 May also lets the weather get a week better before some of will
> have to cross some mountains known to have WX issues earlier in the month.
>
> I still purpose that we hold our 3rd Annual Kolb Gathering at Monument
> Valley, UT (UT25) on May 20-22, 2005 and will keep a tally of what the
> possible attendees prefer.
>
>
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 703 hours
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
> Zenith CH701 Project
> http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
> http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Ah yes the BD5 a very beautiful airplane. Not many have ever been completed.
Those that have been completed have done a good job of killing most every
one that has flown it. This is a airplane for high time fighter pilots and
few others. There have been quit a few on E-Bay. I might consider buying one
for a ornament for my hanger or runway.
My $.02 worth
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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----- Original Message -----
From: "gittj" <gittj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbra
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "gittj" <gittj@earthlink.net>
>
> Say guys, There a BD5 long wing on ebay you can make a jet out of it or
> what ever , Now that i got my kolbra , I live a little longer , So BD on
> the block .check it out . 4512047396 Larry
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
. I might consider buying one
> for a ornament for my hanger or runway.
Would make a slick wind direction indicator like the Goonie Bird at
Whitehorse Yukon airport.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: No Fly in Alabama |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Hey Possum,
There are two "Kolbdrivers" , Mine is @bellsouth.net
I've just hooked my computer back up in the new house and have about 3 weeks
of backlog e-mail.
Steven
----- Original Message -----
From: "possums" <possums@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: No Fly in Alabama
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
>
> At 05:15 PM 12/5/2004, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mfire.com>
> >
> >Mat
> >
> >If you were to say something like, I dunno... Ferguson's rule!!!! That
> >might do it..
> >
> >Do not archive...
> >MS
>
> Is that you Steve or has someone stolen you name??
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: owners in tn. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Wade,
I'm in Etowah, TN with a Mark III / 582
Steven Green
----- Original Message -----
From: "WADE LAWICKI" <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: owners in tn.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
>
> just wondering how many kolb owners in tn. being a new kolb owner makes me
want to check out others planes.
>
>
> wade
> FS 2
> do not arcive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: owners in tn. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
I.m in Bell Buckle,TN (near Shelbyville) with an UltraStar.
Ray Anderson
rsanoa@yahoo.com
Kolbdriver <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver"
Wade,
I'm in Etowah, TN with a Mark III / 582
Steven Green
----- Original Message -----
From: "WADE LAWICKI"
Subject: Kolb-List: owners in tn.
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI
>
> just wondering how many kolb owners in tn. being a new kolb owner makes me
want to check out others planes.
>
>
> wade
> FS 2
> do not arcive
>
>
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| Subject: | [ Ray Anderson ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
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Subject: 1982 UltraStar and Rutan Quickie
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| Subject: | [ Steve Boetto ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
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| Subject: | Re: owners in tn. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Ray Anderson
Ray/Gang:
Bet I have flown right over your house on the way to OSH.
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: 2005 Flying Season |
Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:12:10 -0700
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JIM HEFNER" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
John, count me in for 20-22 May. The FF will definitely be there this year!
Looking forward to it!!
Jim Hefner
Tucson, AZ
FF#022
DO NOT ARCHIVE
I picked the 20-22 May to allow several Kolbs to make the SWRFI Fly-in on
the weekend after Mother's day and allow still not be out over the Memorial
Day weekend.
The 20-22 May also lets the weather get a week better before some of will
have to cross some mountains known to have WX issues earlier in the month.
I still purpose that we hold our 3rd Annual Kolb Gathering at Monument
Valley, UT (UT25) on May 20-22, 2005 and will keep a tally of what the
possible attendees prefer.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
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