---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/28/04: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:11 AM - Re: Re:Re:Christmas (PATRICK LADD) 2. 07:28 AM - Re: Re:Re:Christmas (Larry Bourne) 3. 03:50 PM - hi speed only (ron wehba) 4. 03:57 PM - Merry Xmas and Happy New Year (John Hauck) 5. 05:21 PM - Re: Trip to Florida (Steve Kroll) 6. 05:45 PM - Re: Trip to Florida (robert bean) 7. 05:53 PM - Re: Trip to Florida (Larry Cottrell) 8. 05:58 PM - Re: Trip to Florida (Edward Chmielewski) 9. 06:07 PM - HKS on MKII (Richard Pike) 10. 06:39 PM - Re: HKS on MKII (Kolbdriver) 11. 07:47 PM - Re: HKS on MKII (Richard Swiderwski) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:53 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Re:Christmas --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <> Re notes in log books. I have one.(from a year or two back) `Flew Suzie. Nice flight` Boy! Do I remember that one! Cheers Happy New Year Pat Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:49 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Re:Christmas --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Gotcha ! ! ! Now we gonna tell yer wife. :-) Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Re:Christmas > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" > > < down.>> > > Re notes in log books. > > I have one.(from a year or two back) > > `Flew Suzie. Nice flight` > > Boy! Do I remember that one! > > Cheers > > Happy New Year > > Pat > > Do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:02 PM PST US From: "ron wehba" Subject: Kolb-List: hi speed only --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" http://bemil.chosun.com/movie%20link/SU-35.wmv unreal footage,,have a look. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:59 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Merry Xmas and Happy New Year --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Hi All: Sorry about the belated holiday greetings. Was out of town and out of communication. The sat provider would not let me join in the internet and email fun, and RR roaming telephone hookup said I was using the wrong handle or pass word. Never did get it straightened out, so watched kid shows on TV with 2.5 and 5 year old girls, and three Doberman Pinchers. Spent Xmas in Roanoke, VA, where it never did get warm enough to get outside. Now I am back home with my trusty old computer. Weather is getting good enough to get a little flying in the afternoons. So........Merry Xmas everyone, and a very Happy New Year. Hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable year, get lots of building and flying done, and make it out to Monument Valley in May for the Third Annual Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin. Take care, john h hauck's holler, alabama DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:57 PM PST US From: Steve Kroll Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip to Florida --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll Hi Charlie, I'm driving the Mark 2 also and I understand the reluctance to drive it too far. The airplane itself is beautiful and I KNOW I can trust her to do what I expect of her. But my Rotax is tempermental (503 SCSI) at the moment and that's another story altogether. I only wish there was something in the 50hp range that was 4 cycle and weighed only 90 lbs and didn't cost an arm and a leg. I swear, if somebody out there developed something like a half VW that developed 50 hp and didn't require a second mortgage on the house to obtain, it would be one of the best things to hit the ultralight market in a long while. It's what the Mk2 screams for...probably lots of other ships too. Anyway, have fun on your trip and stay in touch. I don't hear a lot about Mk2's anymore and enjoy hearing from the guys driving "antiques" like mine. Maybe we ought to consider our own fly-in somewhere in the middle of the country sometime. I would really enjoy hanging with aging aviators like myself (60) who have been flying Kolbs for many years and have all the experience and stories to tell. Would make for one heck of a campfire one night...even if only a few of us showed up. Steve Kroll "Vintage" Mk2 (88 model) --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:52 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip to Florida --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Steve, I don't know what rotax gets for a new 503 but HKS lists their engine around $6500 without all the "and-ups". Flightstar has decided to offer it on their two place. I'm sure it would do as well on a MkII. -BB do not archive On 28, Dec 2004, at 8:21 PM, Steve Kroll wrote: > > > I'm driving the Mark 2 also and I understand the reluctance to drive > it too far. The airplane itself is beautiful and I KNOW I can trust > her to do what I expect of her. But my Rotax is tempermental (503 > SCSI) at the moment and that's another story altogether. I only wish > there was something in the 50hp range that was 4 cycle and weighed > only 90 lbs and didn't cost an arm and a leg. I swear, if somebody > out there developed something like a half VW that developed 50 hp and > didn't require a second mortgage on the house to obtain, it would be > one of the best things to hit the ultralight market in a long while. > It's what the Mk2 screams for...probably lots of other ships too. > > Steve Kroll "Vintage" Mk2 (88 model) > > > --------------------------------- > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:39 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip to Florida --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Cottrell" If I am not mistaken that is exactly the type of "people" that show up at Monument Valley. You ought to try it, there is generally one of each type at any gathering of Kolbers, not only that, but most of us are old "farts" as well. Larry, Oregon Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Kroll" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip to Florida > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll > > Anyway, have fun on your trip and stay in touch. I don't hear a lot about > Mk2's anymore and enjoy hearing from the guys driving "antiques" like > mine. Maybe we ought to consider our own fly-in somewhere in the middle > of the country sometime. I would really enjoy hanging with aging > aviators like myself (60) who have been flying Kolbs for many years and > have all the experience and stories to tell. Would make for one heck of a > campfire one night...even if only a few of us showed up. > > Steve Kroll "Vintage" Mk2 (88 model) > > > --------------------------------- > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:59 PM PST US From: "Edward Chmielewski" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip to Florida --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" Hi Bob, Steve and Kolbers, Happy New year to all! I believe Rotax had a sale on 503's until the end of the year. About $2500 IIRC. Just my luck to be a bit poor at the moment. Another 'antique' MkII owner. Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip to Florida > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > Steve, I don't know what rotax gets for a new 503 but HKS lists their > engine > around $6500 without all the "and-ups". Flightstar has decided to offer > it on their two place. I'm sure it would do as well on a MkII. > -BB do not archive > On 28, Dec 2004, at 8:21 PM, Steve Kroll wrote: > > > > > > > I'm driving the Mark 2 also and I understand the reluctance to drive > > it too far. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:47 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: HKS on MKII --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Last fall, Chuck Sluscarzyk (?sp?) was in Johnson City for the annual indoor free flight (model) Nats and I talked to him about the HKS, as they are optional on Hawks. He said it was a bulletproof engine and the more they used them, the better they liked them. He had a couple that were getting close to 1,000 hours with no problems. He said they had more oomph than a good 503, but less than a 582 in terms of useful power. He did not think I would be happy with my MKIII if it had an HKS on it, but he said a two seat Hawk worked good with one, and he thought a FSII was a natural for one. So a MKII ought to really be great with one. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 08:44 PM 12/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > >Steve, I don't know what rotax gets for a new 503 but HKS lists their >engine >around $6500 without all the "and-ups". Flightstar has decided to offer >it on their two place. I'm sure it would do as well on a MkII. >-BB do not archive >On 28, Dec 2004, at 8:21 PM, Steve Kroll wrote: > > > > > > > I'm driving the Mark 2 also and I understand the reluctance to drive > > it too far. The airplane itself is beautiful and I KNOW I can trust > > her to do what I expect of her. But my Rotax is tempermental (503 > > SCSI) at the moment and that's another story altogether. I only wish > > there was something in the 50hp range that was 4 cycle and weighed > > only 90 lbs and didn't cost an arm and a leg. I swear, if somebody > > out there developed something like a half VW that developed 50 hp and > > didn't require a second mortgage on the house to obtain, it would be > > one of the best things to hit the ultralight market in a long while. > > It's what the Mk2 screams for...probably lots of other ships too. > > > > Steve Kroll "Vintage" Mk2 (88 model) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:24 PM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS on MKII --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" Dennis at "Old Kolb" tested the HKS on a mark III just before the company sold. Seems that he had the same to say... Best to all Mike Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: HKS on MKII --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Last fall, Chuck Sluscarzyk (?sp?) was in Johnson City for the annual indoor free flight (model) Nats and I talked to him about the HKS, as they are optional on Hawks. He said it was a bulletproof engine and the more they used them, the better they liked them. He had a couple that were getting close to 1,000 hours with no problems. He said they had more oomph than a good 503, but less than a 582 in terms of useful power. He did not think I would be happy with my MKIII if it had an HKS on it, but he said a two seat Hawk worked good with one, and he thought a FSII was a natural for one. So a MKII ought to really be great with one. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 08:44 PM 12/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > >Steve, I don't know what rotax gets for a new 503 but HKS lists their >engine >around $6500 without all the "and-ups". Flightstar has decided to offer >it on their two place. I'm sure it would do as well on a MkII. >-BB do not archive >On 28, Dec 2004, at 8:21 PM, Steve Kroll wrote: > > > > > > > I'm driving the Mark 2 also and I understand the reluctance to drive > > it too far. The airplane itself is beautiful and I KNOW I can trust > > her to do what I expect of her. But my Rotax is tempermental (503 > > SCSI) at the moment and that's another story altogether. I only wish > > there was something in the 50hp range that was 4 cycle and weighed > > only 90 lbs and didn't cost an arm and a leg. I swear, if somebody > > out there developed something like a half VW that developed 50 hp and > > didn't require a second mortgage on the house to obtain, it would be > > one of the best things to hit the ultralight market in a long while. > > It's what the Mk2 screams for...probably lots of other ships too. > > > > Steve Kroll "Vintage" Mk2 (88 model) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:58 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderwski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS on MKII --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" Kolbers, My memory is definitely not the photographic type, but the Old Kolb assessment that I recall was that it was close to a 503. It would climb a little less but had higher cruise ...richard swiderski -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kolbdriver Subject: RE: Kolb-List: HKS on MKII --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" Dennis at "Old Kolb" tested the HKS on a mark III just before the company sold. Seems that he had the same to say... Best to all Mike Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike Subject: Kolb-List: HKS on MKII --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Last fall, Chuck Sluscarzyk (?sp?) was in Johnson City for the annual indoor free flight (model) Nats and I talked to him about the HKS, as they are optional on Hawks. He said it was a bulletproof engine and the more they used them, the better they liked them. He had a couple that were getting close to 1,000 hours with no problems. He said they had more oomph than a good 503, but less than a 582 in terms of useful power. He did not think I would be happy with my MKIII if it had an HKS on it, but he said a two seat Hawk worked good with one, and he thought a FSII was a natural for one. So a MKII ought to really be great with one. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 08:44 PM 12/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > >Steve, I don't know what rotax gets for a new 503 but HKS lists their >engine >around $6500 without all the "and-ups". Flightstar has decided to offer >it on their two place. I'm sure it would do as well on a MkII. >-BB do not archive >On 28, Dec 2004, at 8:21 PM, Steve Kroll wrote: > > > > > > > I'm driving the Mark 2 also and I understand the reluctance to drive > > it too far. The airplane itself is beautiful and I KNOW I can trust > > her to do what I expect of her. But my Rotax is tempermental (503 > > SCSI) at the moment and that's another story altogether. I only wish > > there was something in the 50hp range that was 4 cycle and weighed > > only 90 lbs and didn't cost an arm and a leg. I swear, if somebody > > out there developed something like a half VW that developed 50 hp and > > didn't require a second mortgage on the house to obtain, it would be > > one of the best things to hit the ultralight market in a long while. > > It's what the Mk2 screams for...probably lots of other ships too. > > > > Steve Kroll "Vintage" Mk2 (88 model) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > >