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1. 06:47 AM - 503 vs HKS (John Jung)
2. 08:52 AM - Re: 503 vs HKS (kfackler)
3. 05:05 PM - Re: Trip to Florida (Steve Kroll)
4. 05:11 PM - ICOM Radios For Sale (John Hauck)
5. 06:52 PM - Re: Trip to Florida (HShack@aol.com)
6. 06:52 PM - Re: ICOM Radios For Sale (Larry Bourne)
7. 07:10 PM - 503 at discount (Edward Chmielewski)
8. 07:11 PM - Re: ICOM Radios For Sale (John Hauck)
9. 08:33 PM - Mr Bean in print (Jon Croke)
10. 09:35 PM - Re: Mr Bean in print (Denny Rowe)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Steve, Charlie and Group,
I fly a Firestar II with a 503 DCDI. It has been as
reliable as a 4 stroke, for it's 150 hours. I have
always wanted to take longer flights. Two things have
kept me from longer flights: High fuel burn, and an
uncomfortable seat. I have a new ethafoam seat
installed but have not taken a long enough flight to
test it. The dual ignition on the newer 503s makes me
feel more confident. It is easily the best running two
stroke that I have ever used. I have used 4 single
ignition Rotaxes and a Cayuna.
My complaint with the 503, for traveling, is fuel
burn. My 2.5 gph at 50 mph doubles to 5 gph at 75 mph.
So, I have to plan fuel stops about ever 120 miles,
allowing for weather changes and reserve fuel. This is
not much better than I did with 5 gallons in
ultralights.
If a four stroke could make a significant reduction in
fuel burn, it might justify the higher price. Not for
economy but for extended range. It sure would be
interesting to read a report of a person flying a Mark
II or Firestar II with an HKS, giving fuel burn
numbers at cruise speeds.
Another possible solution might be larger gas tanks
for 503s. is anyone carring more than 10 gallons in a
Firestar or Mark II?
John Jung
Firestar II
Surprise, AZ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> My complaint with the 503, for traveling, is fuel
> burn. My 2.5 gph at 50 mph doubles to 5 gph at 75 mph.
My Mark II won't fly that fast. Having said that, I get 3gph at 55mph and
3.5 at 60mph and 4 at 65. It seems very consistent that each 5mph is another
half gallon down the carb throat. Of course these numbers all vary somewhat
with atmospheric conditions so they're just a perceptual average, nothing
that could be considered an accurate, scientific measurement.
> for 503s. is anyone carring more than 10 gallons in a
> Firestar or Mark II?
Probably not the way you mean, but I often carry another can of fuel in the
right seat, usually 2.5 gallon.
I also have gotten "clearance" from the local Rotax Guru to burn 100LL
"occasionally" now that I have the oil injector installed and don't have to
worry about mixing fuel. This has helped enormously in terms of making
longer trips, though it does little for extending individual legs. Of
course, my legs are limited much more by my bladder capacity than my fuel
capacity, alas.
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Florida |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
<<<<<I believe Rotax had a sale on 503's until the end of the year. About $2500>>>>
Ed, Richard et al....
Dang....a guy could get two for less than the price of the HKS!!!! Not apples
to apples of course but....Ed...was that price for a DCDI 503??
Even at 6500 bucks, a guy might fly 1000 hours without an overhaul when the 503
would have to be overhauled 3 + times at 1700 a pop (latest price from a good
wrench in Michigan) the Rotax even at only 2500 new would still end up costing
over 7k for the same amount of flying time....not to mention the down time.
Check my computations here guys. The HKS sounds like a good possibility.
Now....my next question....how does it sound? That would be just icing on the
cake of course but I've always considered the scream of a 2-cycle to be the reason
for my tinnitis (and I fly with a headset) The only noise I 'enjoy' from
back there is the prop (I got a 2 blade wood Tennessee and they are sweet.)
At 800fpm, I could probably get a little more climb out of one of the high tech
plastic ones with three blades but they don't sound the same nor have near the
aesthetic appeal....to me at least. I do love my Tennessee! It and the panel
are the only things wood on my airplane and I like wood. Yup...the HKS and
a Tennessee wood prop sounds like it might be worth further study for this old
guy. My interest has been waning a little with all the engine crud I've been
through lately. The idea of a nice little 4 cycle purring back there has got
my blood up again. Thanks guys:-)
Steve Kroll Mk2 (503 for the moment)
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| Subject: | ICOM Radios For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Good Evening Gang:
My buddies on the Kolb List get first shot at this.
I have two ICOM hand held radios. Don't need but one. So.........I
would like to sell one of them and recoup a little bit of the money I
have invested.
The ICOMs are:
A3 (no VOR)
A22 w/VOR
Both of these radios have sidetone (can hear your own voice when you
transmit, if you are not as deaf as I am).
The A3 is the radio I have flown with for the last two years. I made
both flights to MV and also this Summer's flight to Alaska. I paid
about $350.00 for it before shipping. I will take $250.00 plus
shipping. This radio is the only avionics I have/use with the
exception of my Garmin GPS 196.
The A22 is brand new. I bought it a couple months ago. Paid $350.00
before shipping. I will take $300.00 for it plus shipping.
I will gladly sell either of these radios, but only one of them since
I need one to talk to my flying buddies when I am flying.
Please reply back copy (direct) to my email or give me a call.
jhauck@elmore.rr.com
334-567-6280
Thanks,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Florida |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 12/29/2004 8:06:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
muso2080@yahoo.com writes:
Even at 6500 bucks, a guy might fly 1000 hours without an overhaul when the
503 would have to be overhauled 3 + times at 1700 a pop (latest price from a
good wrench in Michigan) the Rotax even at only 2500 new would still end up
costing over 7k for the same amount of flying time....not to mention the down
time. Check my computations here guys. The HKS sounds like a good possibility.
I heard that it's really about $7.5 k for the HKS by the time you get all the
necessities. And the weight is going to be about 25 lbs more than the 503.
Maybe doesn't matter unless you are a lightweight.........
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM Radios For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Whatcha gonna do for a back-up, John ??
Just finished watching a special on Outdoor Life Network about driving up
the Dalton Highway to Deadhorse. Pheee-eeeewwwww...............John, you
did it the easier way. Looks to be one hardcore drive, for
sure..............but I just may do it. :-) Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: ICOM Radios For Sale
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Good Evening Gang:
>
> My buddies on the Kolb List get first shot at this.
>
> I have two ICOM hand held radios. Don't need but one. So.........I
> would like to sell one of them and recoup a little bit of the money I
> have invested.
>
> The ICOMs are:
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Hi Steve/Kolbers,
(Subject changed to accurately reflect topic):
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Kroll" <muso2080@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trip to Florida
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
>
> <<<<<I believe Rotax had a sale on 503's until the end of the year. About $2500>>>>
>
> Ed, Richard et al....
>
> Dang....a guy could get two for less than the price of the HKS!!!! Not apples
to apples of course but....Ed...was
that price for a DCDI 503??
>
The offer was for 477, 532, 582, and 618 as well as the 503 Rotax, the 503 offered
was SCDI. The following was part of
what was posted on Av-web.com. I followed up on the Rotax site, and it was true.
Looks like we missed out though (Dec.
20 cutoff). Story of my life....
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
(SNIP)
Scope: To stimulate the market and assist the upcoming Sport
Aircraft transitions a special offer has been developed. A type 503
SCDI engine, complete, with the carburetion and fuel pump, the
exhaust, will be offered as replacement for exchange to all owners
of the aircraft engine version type 503. This will be regardless of
age of the original engine or registration, as long as the serial
number is found within the current database. No snowmobile serial
numbers will be accepted for this exchange. Check with an
Authorized Rotax Service Center to see if your serial number
applies.
To qualify
The owner must ship, at his expense, all the required parts to
the Service Center to remove this engine from service. The
retention of any of the parts is not allowed.
The parts to be returned are:
1) The engine assembly, crankcase, cylinders and heads with
ignition attached.
2) The exhaust system complete
3) The carburetors, fuel pump
4) The recoil starter.
(In the event the engine has only a magneto end electric start,
the new engine will have the recoil removed for installation of the
electric starter)
The new type 477 engine must be registered at the time of sale
by the Service Center for warranty to begin immediately, no
deferral of start times. The owner will pay $2500.00 USD to the
Service Center, plus any shipping and handling of the new
engine.
Suggested retail = $3273.00 Trade in sale price $2500.00
Effective date: July 1, 2004
Termination date: December 20, 2004
(SNIP)
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM Radios For Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Larry/All:
| Whatcha gonna do for a back-up, John ??
I don't use one. Three years ago my King KX99 handheld went belly up
going into Prince George Airport, BC. Did the rest of the flight to
Oroville, WA, then across to OSH, and south to Alabama without a
radio. Worked fine.
| Just finished watching a special on Outdoor Life Network about
driving up
| the Dalton Highway to Deadhorse.
Pheee-eeeewwwww...............John, you
| did it the easier way. Looks to be one hardcore drive, for
| sure..............but I just may do it. :-)
I have done the "haul road" both ways. Nell, Ernie the Bassett Hound,
and I drove it in the Dodge pulling a Casita travel trailer we rented
from the Army at Ft Wainwright. I'd drive it again in a minute.
I watched the show too. It was great to see my old buddy Jack Rekof
at Wiseman, AK. I had supper with him on the way south from Deadhorse
this summer. We had great big caribou burgers, char coal grilled, and
vegies out of his garden, probably the northernmost garden in the US.
I met Jack on my 1994 flight.
My feet got itchy watching that show. I am ready to drive or fly back
to Alaska, but I will wait until next summer. A little cold up there
now.
Take care,
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Mr Bean in print |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
Just received my Kitplanes magazine.. and who do I see in the 'completions' section:
BOB BEAN and his Mk-III !
When you get your picture in a national mag... you're famous!
Congrats: nice photo, nice plane!
Jon
www.HomebuiltHELP.com
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| Subject: | Re: Mr Bean in print |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Way to go BB!
Congratulations.
Denny Rowe
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Mr Bean in print
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>
> Just received my Kitplanes magazine.. and who do I see in the
> 'completions' section: BOB BEAN and his Mk-III !
>
> When you get your picture in a national mag... you're famous!
>
> Congrats: nice photo, nice plane!
>
> Jon
>
> www.HomebuiltHELP.com
>
>
>
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