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1. 05:05 AM - Re: Anyone know a good Rotax Mecahnic? (bryan green)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: Marvels Mystery Oil (dama)
3. 06:36 AM - Re: Alternative Engine Considerations (snuffy@usol.com)
4. 06:36 AM - Re: Alternative Engine Considerations (robert bean)
5. 06:36 AM - Re: Alternative Engine Considerations (snuffy@usol.com)
6. 07:20 AM - Re: Alternative Engine Considerations (Richard Pike)
7. 07:54 AM - Re: Anyone know a good Rotax Mecahnic? (flykolb)
8. 08:01 AM - Re: Alternative Engine Considerations (jerb)
9. 08:01 AM - Re: Marvels Mystery Oil (jerb)
10. 08:23 AM - Re: Marvel Mystery Oil (John Hauck)
11. 08:47 AM - Re: egt help (herbgh@juno.com)
12. 09:44 AM - Re: Alternative Engine Considerations (Bob N.)
13. 10:07 AM - Re: Marvel Mystery Oil (dama)
14. 11:35 AM - Xtra/Jabiru (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
15. 05:20 PM - Re: egt help (George T. Alexander, Jr.)
16. 06:50 PM - Re: egt help (Earl & Mim Zimmerman)
17. 06:57 PM - Re: egt help (ul15rhb@juno.com)
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Subject: | Re: Anyone know a good Rotax Mecahnic? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
D & F Aviation
Dwight Edmanson
Goldsboro,NC
1-919-778-8816
>. I will gladly remove it and ship as it would give an
>opportunity to do a really good inspection on the airframe. Who has a good
>reputation?
>Thanks,
>Kip
>
>http://www.springeraviation.net/
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Marvels Mystery Oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
I almost did not mention MM Oil as there is all kinds of advice and opinions
but my own experience will keep me running with it. When I had 150 hours I
flew to Greenville, SC for a decarbon. The owner of the old Flightworld had
his entire day blocked out for my motor and, after looking at it through the
top and exhast said "there is no reason to clean this engine". Now, 100
hours later, the rings are still free. Something seems to be working...
Pennzoil Air-cooled 50:1 by the way.
Regards,
Kip
http://www.springeraviation.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Marvels Mystery Oil
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 1/2/05 9:17:26 PM, ulflyer@verizon.net writes:
> > >I am approaching 250 hours on my Firestar II and the 503 has never been
> > >opened up. I don't want to mess with a good thing but don't want to
push it
> > >either. It's 4+ years old and has had only spark plugs, clean air
filters,
> > >and precisely mixed oil with Marvels Mystery Oil for maintenance. I am
> > >thinking that a decarbon with new case seals may take it to 400 or 500
> > >hours. I know that there are many opinions on this subject that point
to
> > >just flying on but I prefer to invest in reliability, especially over
the
> > >trees of Georgia. I will gladly remove it and ship as it would give an
> > >opportunity to do a really good inspection on the airframe. Who has a
good
> > >reputation?
> > >Thanks,
> > >Kip
> >
> You have been using marvels in the 503, are you using oil injection or
> premixed. I use it regularly (marvels) in my Piper Cub Continetal A65 but
never in
> my Rotax 503 on the Firestar 2, I have 220 hours with the oil injection
and
> they are trouble free hours.
>
> I have always been told to not use anything that mixes with the oil in the
2
> cycle motors except the oil.
>
> The MArvels is a godsend with the aircraft engines, what is everyones
> experience with with Rotaxes?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alternative Engine Considerations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
> Yah, the Walter engines have a good reputation, but you get right
back into
> the same problem that Don brought up. Direct drive engines will
work on a
> Mk III, but an engine with re-drive works better. Lar.
Yah but....the reason they need a redrive is because they spin too
fast for the prop we need. The Walter don't. It spins like a LYc or
Cont....in the mid 2000 rpm range. The direct drive does tear up
some compost props however. I think it costs as much as a 912
though....:>(
Do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Alternative Engine Considerations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
On 2, Jan 2005, at 11:40 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> Richard/Gang:
>
> Model of Kolbs and performance results with the GeoMetro would be
> very interesting.
Stay tuned for the coming summer. I intend to put some serious time on
my MkIII "Feenix" . As of right now and the very little time I have
aloft
my strongest impression is delight at the instant start and perfect full
range throttle response using an antique VW carb. The torque range
- very strong from 3600 rpm up through 5000, gives a lot of room for
choice.
Although it could be used on a FSII, it would take careful measures to
keep the installation weight pruned down.
The biggest drawback is the amount of labor and brainwork required
to get it up and running.
Now maybe if I mix a little MMoil and Seafoam together?????/
-BB do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alternative Engine Considerations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
> Richard/Gang:
>
> Model of Kolbs and performance results with the GeoMetro would
be
> very interesting.
Bob Bean has one on his Mark 3. Don't know how well it is performing
though.
Do not
archive
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Subject: | Re: Alternative Engine Considerations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Still in development is the engine from the Smart Car made by Mercedes
Benz. (I would like flying with a MB 4 stroke!)
http://www.fk-lightplanes.com/html/smart2projects.html
No price yet, but the car is not very expensive.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Anyone know a good Rotax Mecahnic? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
I have used Dwight and was very pleased.
Jim
Mark III
Charlotte,NC
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Anyone know a good Rotax Mecahnic?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> D & F Aviation
> Dwight Edmanson
> Goldsboro,NC
> 1-919-778-8816
>
>
> >. I will gladly remove it and ship as it would give an
> >opportunity to do a really good inspection on the airframe. Who has a
good
> >reputation?
> >Thanks,
> >Kip
> >
> >http://www.springeraviation.net/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alternative Engine Considerations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
There rather heavy engines - the Raven package based upon a Suzuki with
their redrive might be a better and more economical choice.
jerb
At 11:44 PM 1/2/05 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>
>Yah, the Walter engines have a good reputation, but you get right back into
>the same problem that Don brought up. Direct drive engines will work on a
>Mk III, but an engine with re-drive works better. Lar.
>Do not Archive.
>
>Larry Bourne
>Palm Springs, CA
>Building Kolb Mk III
>N78LB Vamoose
>www.gogittum.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Alternative Engine Considerations
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> >
> > Here's an engine I'd love to try on a Mark 3 if I had lots of money to
> > pizz
> > away. The 75hp 4 cylinder one. http://www.moraviation.com/
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Marvels Mystery Oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Kip,
How much MM oil are you adding per gallon of fuel.
Thanks,
jerb
At 08:04 AM 1/3/05 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
>
>I almost did not mention MM Oil as there is all kinds of advice and opinions
>but my own experience will keep me running with it. When I had 150 hours I
>flew to Greenville, SC for a decarbon. The owner of the old Flightworld had
>his entire day blocked out for my motor and, after looking at it through the
>top and exhast said "there is no reason to clean this engine". Now, 100
>hours later, the rings are still free. Something seems to be working...
>Pennzoil Air-cooled 50:1 by the way.
>Regards,
>Kip
>
>http://www.springeraviation.net/
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Timandjan@aol.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Marvels Mystery Oil
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Timandjan@aol.com
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/2/05 9:17:26 PM, ulflyer@verizon.net writes:
> > > >I am approaching 250 hours on my Firestar II and the 503 has never been
> > > >opened up. I don't want to mess with a good thing but don't want to
>push it
> > > >either. It's 4+ years old and has had only spark plugs, clean air
>filters,
> > > >and precisely mixed oil with Marvels Mystery Oil for maintenance. I am
> > > >thinking that a decarbon with new case seals may take it to 400 or 500
> > > >hours. I know that there are many opinions on this subject that point
>to
> > > >just flying on but I prefer to invest in reliability, especially over
>the
> > > >trees of Georgia. I will gladly remove it and ship as it would give an
> > > >opportunity to do a really good inspection on the airframe. Who has a
>good
> > > >reputation?
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Kip
> > >
> > You have been using marvels in the 503, are you using oil injection or
> > premixed. I use it regularly (marvels) in my Piper Cub Continetal A65 but
>never in
> > my Rotax 503 on the Firestar 2, I have 220 hours with the oil injection
>and
> > they are trouble free hours.
> >
> > I have always been told to not use anything that mixes with the oil in the
>2
> > cycle motors except the oil.
> >
> > The MArvels is a godsend with the aircraft engines, what is everyones
> > experience with with Rotaxes?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Marvel Mystery Oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Thanks,
| jerb
jerb/Gang:
I have used MM oil for years in everything I own:
diesel
gas
airplane
truck
boat
tractors
lawn mowers
Normally, use what the directions on the container indicate:
1 qt to 80 to 100 gal.
I end up using 8 oz per 25 gal in the 912ULS.
Sometimes I double up on the amount of MM oil to really blow them out.
Primarily use MM oil in fuel. However, to help clean up hydraulic
lifters in my Nissan truck, and to do a clean up job on an old two
cylinder JD tractor, I'll dump a qt in the crankcase, run a few hours
prior to dumping and adding new oil and filter.
I used MM oil exclusively in my fuel for the last flight to Alaska.
Probably burned 98% 100LL and 2% auto fuel. The MM oil did as good a
job or better than the Alcor TCP I used on the 2001 flight to scavenge
lead from the 912ULS. It is much cheaper and less of a toxic hazard
than the TCP. Also easy to buy at any Wal*Mart.
I used MM oil in my Cuyuna ULII02 and Rotax 447, 582. I believe it
helped keep the carbon soft and most of it blown out of the two
strokes.
Whether it works or not, it has a nice color and smells good.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
Test
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Alternative Engine Considerations |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Does anyone know specs (hp, torque, wt ) on the engines in small(er)
hybrid cars?
Bob N.
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Subject: | Re: Marvel Mystery Oil |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" <dama@mindspring.com>
Yeah, it's the sweet smell that keeps me a loyal (ab)user. I use what the
bottle says. I think I use about 2 oz. per 5 gallons of gas...
Kip
http://www.springeraviation.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Marvel Mystery Oil
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | How much MM oil are you adding per gallon of fuel.
>
> jerb/Gang:
>
> I have used MM oil for years in everything I own:
>
> diesel
> gas
> airplane
> truck
> boat
> tractors
> lawn mowers
>
> Normally, use what the directions on the container indicate:
>
> 1 qt to 80 to 100 gal.
>
> I end up using 8 oz per 25 gal in the 912ULS.
>
> Sometimes I double up on the amount of MM oil to really blow them out.
>
> Primarily use MM oil in fuel. However, to help clean up hydraulic
> lifters in my Nissan truck, and to do a clean up job on an old two
> cylinder JD tractor, I'll dump a qt in the crankcase, run a few hours
> prior to dumping and adding new oil and filter.
>
> I used MM oil exclusively in my fuel for the last flight to Alaska.
> Probably burned 98% 100LL and 2% auto fuel. The MM oil did as good a
> job or better than the Alcor TCP I used on the 2001 flight to scavenge
> lead from the 912ULS. It is much cheaper and less of a toxic hazard
> than the TCP. Also easy to buy at any Wal*Mart.
>
> I used MM oil in my Cuyuna ULII02 and Rotax 447, 582. I believe it
> helped keep the carbon soft and most of it blown out of the two
> strokes.
>
> Whether it works or not, it has a nice color and smells good.
>
> john h
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Gidday all,
Just a quick update on the progress of our Xtra with a jab 2200 on top.
we only have the wings to cover and paint now and she will be complete by the end
of January (I hope).
Today I ground run the engine for the first time and I am pleased to say that in
48 mins of running at 1200 rpm and the chocks under the wheels not once did
the CHT's get near the maximum, so far so good, and boy it sure looks and sounds
good.
Will try and post some pics soon.
Mike
G-CDFA Xtra/Jab 2200
Silver Fern Microlights
UK/European Kolb Distributor
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
Wade:
One possibility is vibration causing the instrument (gauge) to malfunction
while engine is running. If you haven't, I would remove the gauge from
where ever it is mounted; suspend it (in your hand/by a string/on a pillow)
so that it doesn't pick up ANY vibration when the engine is running and see
if you get a reading. It seems to me to be the most likely source of the
problem. The odds that this is the case goes higher if you have dual egt
circuits terminating in one instrument.
George Alexander
FS II
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Denny Rowe
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: egt help
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "WADE LAWICKI" <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: egt help
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
>
> group,
> need egt help,i have a fs 2 503 dcdi egts wont work with engine
> running. tested gauge-ok, tested each sender-ok,removed senders and tested
> whole system with propane torch,motor off-OK. re-roughted all leads as far
> away from ignition as i could but, as soon as i start motor nothing works?
> any ideas? also, need a good a good preflight checklist for fs 2.
> do not archive
>
> wade
> fs 2 #1030
>
>
Wade,
Thats a weird one, I'm thinking it over and will drop a note if I think of
anything.
Let us know if you figure it out.
Denny Rowe, (scratching my head)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com>
WADE LAWICKI wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
>
> group,
> need egt help,i have a fs 2 503 dcdi egts wont work with engine running.
tested gauge-ok, tested each sender-ok,removed senders and tested whole system
with propane torch,motor off-OK. re-roughted all leads as far away from ignition
as i could but, as soon as i start motor nothing works? any ideas? also, need
a good a good preflight checklist for fs 2.
> do not archive
Wade,
Is there any possibility that you have a ground problem and are getting
voltage at the shield/ground side of the probe from the charging
system?? Are there any other instruments that are not working right?
~ Earl
--
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ul15rhb@juno.com" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Wade, I agree with George, it's most likely a vibration problem although the instrument
may be bad. I once had an EGT that went dead on takeoff and read fine
when I throttled back to cruising speed. It was a bad sender. I changed it out
and it has worked since then. Make sure all connections are soldered or well
crimped. If you have solid wires, sometimes a wire can be broken inside the insulation
and it's hard to detect by looking at it. Disconnect the EGT sender
from the muffler and have someone put a propane torch on the sender probe while
you move the EGT wires around. Watch for an intermittent reading on the EGT.
Ralph
Original Firestar
18 years flying it
-- "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
Wade:
One possibility is vibration causing the instrument (gauge) to malfunction
while engine is running. If you haven't, I would remove the gauge from
where ever it is mounted; suspend it (in your hand/by a string/on a pillow)
so that it doesn't pick up ANY vibration when the engine is running and see
if you get a reading. It seems to me to be the most likely source of the
problem. The odds that this is the case goes higher if you have dual egt
circuits terminating in one instrument.
George Alexander
FS II
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Denny Rowe
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: egt help
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "WADE LAWICKI" <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: egt help
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WADE LAWICKI <wlawicki@yahoo.com>
>
> group,
> need egt help,i have a fs 2 503 dcdi egts wont work with engine
> running. tested gauge-ok, tested each sender-ok,removed senders and tested
> whole system with propane torch,motor off-OK. re-roughted all leads as far
> away from ignition as i could but, as soon as i start motor nothing works?
> any ideas? also, need a good a good preflight checklist for fs 2.
> do not archive
>
> wade
> fs 2 #1030
>
>
Wade,
Thats a weird one, I'm thinking it over and will drop a note if I think of
anything.
Let us know if you figure it out.
Denny Rowe, (scratching my head)
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