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1. 12:37 AM - Re: EAA Experimenter/Sport whatever (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
2. 04:33 AM - Re: Engine Choices (Bob and Jenn B)
3. 05:46 AM - Kolb Seats and Temperfoam (John Hauck)
4. 08:34 AM - Re: Re:UK Gales (PATRICK LADD)
5. 09:26 AM - Re: Motors (ray anderson)
6. 11:00 AM - Re: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
7. 12:42 PM - Re: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam (John Hauck)
8. 01:02 PM - Re: Re:UK Gales (PATRICK LADD)
9. 01:27 PM - Re: Pat's Xtra (PATRICK LADD)
10. 01:47 PM - Re: [ Steve Kroll ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Denny Rowe)
11. 01:47 PM - Re: Rotax 582 Engine Package for Sale (Jim Ballenger)
12. 03:48 PM - Re: Re:UK Gales (John Young)
13. 04:06 PM - Re: Motors (ULDAD@aol.com)
14. 05:04 PM - Re: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam (Richard Pike)
15. 06:41 PM - Re: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam (Don Gherardini)
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Experimenter/Sport whatever |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Hi All,
Us unfortunate victums of the CAA who have the pleaseue of owning a Kolb in
the UK have to modify the seats, this includes a 1.6 mm thisk aluminium
sheet which rivets to the cage just under the sling seat, this is to in the
event of a crash stop anything protruding into your butt, then on top of the
sling seat we have to fit a 2" thick square of Dyna Foam whis is a proven
energy absorber, used in the Space shuttle and in all UK helicopters, it
does however make for a very comfortable seat. I geuss this is similar to
the temper foam that john mentioned.
Mike
Xtra/Jab 2200
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EAA Experimenter/Sport whatever
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> owners
>
> Denny R/Gang:
>
> The secret is temper foam. Don't leave home without it.
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | RE: Engine Choices |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" <tabberdd@hotmail.com>
Glad to hear that Steve!
I lied a bit, my Mk II weighs 336 lbs. It was built to plan and very light
(I didn't build it but it was a determining factor in buying it.) No
electrics, no brakes, no chute, 5 gallon gas can ... I'm pulling the wings
off today to install 10 gallons and a Racor water seperator (does anybody
have any experience with these???) from CPS. With that, a new gap seal and
an ELT so I can license it, I figure I should be at 345 lbs. I'll decide
then if I should add brakes. Haven't needed them yet so I'm hesitant to add
the weight. Now if I could just get rid of that 25 lb shot bag strapped to
the floor for W&B...
Bob
MkII 503scsi
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Time: 07:14:09 AM PST US
From: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Engine Choices
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
Bob, List....
I appreciate your post. I just got my 503 scsi running really good
yesterday
after
a carb rebuild, readjustment of the float level, and various other light
maintenance items and the engine seems now to be running like it used to.
Yesterday,
with 50 degree temps and dense air I was looking at 1000 fpm climbout
at 50 mph..OBOY that felt good. I stuck close to the airport at 1500 AGL
for
the entire flight but it never hiccuped in about 30 minutes flying time and
lots
of different power settings.
In your post you mentioned a 350 lb weight (I asssumed you were talking
about
your
bird) and was wondering why your airplane is 30 lbs lighter than mine. I
do have a cannister type parachute mounted inside my fuselage. Can that be
the
difference?
I have a Skyflight digital engine monitor and I did notice some erroneous
readings
on my RPMs though. This instrument reads RPM electronicly using a nine volt
battery but mechanicly for the temps using a probe in the exhaust manifold
and a ring sensor under my aft plug. The temps seemed to be correct so I
suspect
that maybe the batteries might have come loose in their mount on the back
of the instrument. Sounds like a job for Duck Tape.
Today looks like a beautiful day in North Central Texas so I am headed for
the
field. :-)
Steve Kroll Mk2 503 scsi
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| Subject: | Kolb Seats and Temperfoam |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Kolb in
| the UK have to modify the seats, this includes a 1.6 mm thisk
aluminium
| sheet which rivets to the cage just under the sling seat, this is to
in the
| event of a crash stop anything protruding into your butt, then on
top of the
| sling seat we have to fit a 2" thick square of Dyna Foam whis is a
proven
| energy absorber, used in the Space shuttle and in all UK
helicopters, it
| does however make for a very comfortable seat. I geuss this is
similar to
| the temper foam that john mentioned.
|
| Mike
Good Morning Mike/Gang:
Yes, Temperfoam is what I use. Discovered it before I made the 1994
flight to Alaska. Prior to that, I was good for butt cramps and pain
after about 30 minutes in the old "Ultrastar Seats and Azusa Seat
Cover" with minimum padding.
Not a bad idea to use the 1.6mm aluminum sheet. That is about .063".
I have never used the sling seats, either in my Firestar or MKIII. I
always used hard seats. I also use a trick I learned from the JARS
pilots that fly the old Heliocouriers. That is a sheet of aluminum
riveted to the 4130 seat frames under the plastic molded seats. This
is to prevent me from going through the seat in case of a flat crash.
One of the JARS pilots was paralyzed from the waist down as the result
of a stall on short final going into a jungle airstrip. From that
time on, JARS aircraft had the sheet aluminum installed. In addition,
their 4130 seat frames were designed to slowly collapse to absorb
energy in a crash.
I don't mind adding weight when it may prevent me from getting hurt.
BTW, I never had a butt ache since installing Temperfoam. That is
until it wore out. Two years ago I started getting uncomfortable in
the seat on a flight to OSH 2003. Discovered my Temperfoam had used
up its useful life. Bought another piece while at OSH to make the
return flight to Alabama.
I am not an advocate of the sling seat, although I have flown the
factory aircraft with sling seats many times.
Take care,
john h
PS: I took the liberty to change the subject line.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I now need a new hangar to keep my Kolb Mk III in...!!>>
Hi Carl,
Hard luck. Hope you manage to get repared and rehangared quickly.
I collected my kit from Mike yesterday lunch time and it was blowing then.
It had been harder during the night as there was a Jabiru on the airfield
which had pulled its mooring and broken a wing in half during the storm.
I had a fairly hard trip of 850 miles (and 157, weep for us, America) and
it blew and rained almost all the way.
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
DO NOT ARCHIVE
I'm still giving thought to a Cont. 65-75 HP on a Kolb. I got my old Cont.engine
repair and installation manual out and it appears to me that it can be installed
at the same or even lower thrust line than the big Rotax. That's allowing
the drop from not having the prop up on a retro drive. So I believe the thrust
issue is not there. New Kolb has indicated they would custom build a cage
to ones specs, so if one sent a prefabricated motor mount, they could weld it
into proper position at that time. These mounts are readily available from a number
of sources. As to weight, there only seems to be a difference of about 45-48
pounds between the Cont. and the Rotax 912 series. The A 65 can be converted
to an A75 with just a change in carburetor jetting and re timing the mags.
This raises the max RPM as well as normal cruise RPM. Since it would not be
used on a certified airplane, one has many options for props, some shorter than
the standard 72". A certified aircraft engin
e with
tens of thousands of hours of proven reliability behind them. Can run on cheap
auto gas. I'm guessing, but one can probably be picked up for about half the
price of the big Rotax. Savings that might go a long way toward the cage modification.
Some adventurous Kolb builder should try one.
I have a picture of such an installation on a replica Curtis Jr. a friend
of mine purchased. It looks like a typical Kolb mounting. I'll send a copy to
anyone wanting it, by e-mail off line, if you give me your e-mail. He was retiring
from Eastern Airlines after being Captain on 747's and with two weeks to
go, flew out to Washington state to pick up his retirement toy and while flying
it back to Miami, he fell out of it over Missouri at 2000 feet. Now that's
the kind of thing that can ruin your day !! The plane landed it's self with very
little damage and my picture shows it back in flying form.
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Richard & Martha Neilsen <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
Lycoming and Contintal were also on my list engines that I considered before
I chose the VW. The primary reason I didn't pursue one of these options was
that it would take a change to the engine mount and cage of the MKIII. I now
have done the change to my cage and it wasn't that difficult. The biggest
problem was finding some one that would do the tig welding. A year ago at
Oshkosh I asked one of the New Kolb people about a optional engine mount
that would allow engines like Lic., Cont., VW, and GEO. He said that they
considered Lic & Cont. but determined that they were just way too heavy.
From the posts that we having about their weight you have to wonder were he
was coming from. Also a 65HP direct drive general aviation engine would
likely produce allot more thrust than a 65HP Rotax if for no other reason
than reduction drive power loss.
As for the higher thrust line my new engine mount is 5 inches lower than it
was before and I could still swing a 74 inch prop with one inch clearance.
With the higher mount I did have forward CG issues and likely slower speeds
but it now it is so close to a Rotax thrust line it shouldn't be noticeable.
I also asked if New Kolb would build me a cage with a custom engine mount.
He said they would if I gave them detailed drawings and they weren't too
busy. So there you go check out my modifications to cage, modify it to
accept a Lyc. or Cont. engine and have Kolb make you a custom kit.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Motors
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>
> 65 on one of the larger Kolbs. Just won't fit my Ultra Star. |
>
>
> Good Morning Ray A/Gang:
>
> I think you answered your own question of why we haven't seen a
> Continental 65 on a MKIII. They just don't fit. The Continental 65
> is a slow turning engine and needs a "big" prop that won't fit in a
> pusher configuration. Jack the engine higher on the airframe and it
> gets to the point of self defeating itself trying to overcome the high
> thrust line pushing the nose down.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Hi John/all,
Could you tell me what the seats you use are out of, how they are
mounted/approx weight each and price.
The PFA has been wanting me to do something like this for a while.
Mike
Xtra/Jabiru 2200
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Kolb in
> aluminium
> in the
> top of the
> proven
> helicopters, it
> similar to
>
> Good Morning Mike/Gang:
>
> Yes, Temperfoam is what I use. Discovered it before I made the 1994
> flight to Alaska. Prior to that, I was good for butt cramps and pain
> after about 30 minutes in the old "Ultrastar Seats and Azusa Seat
> Cover" with minimum padding.
>
> Not a bad idea to use the 1.6mm aluminum sheet. That is about .063".
> I have never used the sling seats, either in my Firestar or MKIII. I
> always used hard seats. I also use a trick I learned from the JARS
> pilots that fly the old Heliocouriers. That is a sheet of aluminum
> riveted to the 4130 seat frames under the plastic molded seats. This
> is to prevent me from going through the seat in case of a flat crash.
> One of the JARS pilots was paralyzed from the waist down as the result
> of a stall on short final going into a jungle airstrip. From that
> time on, JARS aircraft had the sheet aluminum installed. In addition,
> their 4130 seat frames were designed to slowly collapse to absorb
> energy in a crash.
>
> I don't mind adding weight when it may prevent me from getting hurt.
>
> BTW, I never had a butt ache since installing Temperfoam. That is
> until it wore out. Two years ago I started getting uncomfortable in
> the seat on a flight to OSH 2003. Discovered my Temperfoam had used
> up its useful life. Bought another piece while at OSH to make the
> return flight to Alabama.
>
> I am not an advocate of the sling seat, although I have flown the
> factory aircraft with sling seats many times.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
> PS: I took the liberty to change the subject line.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Hi John/all,
| Could you tell me what the seats you use are out of, how they are
| mounted/approx weight each and price.
| Mike
Hi Mike/Gang:
The "Ultrastar Seats" I use are simply soft plastic chair seats.
Homer Kolb used these for Ultrastar Kits. When I built the airframe
for my MKIII at Homer's in 1991, I was scrounging around up in the
attic of the "barn" (Kolb Factory) and found a couple of these plastic
chair seats. Homer let us use them for my airplane. Brother Jim
Hauck welded up a nice tilting seat frame to attach the seats to.
I do not know where one could find these chairs seats now. They weigh
practically nothing and would be very inexpensive if one could local a
source. I think they would have been used as seats for waiting rooms
at medical facilities, etc.
Sorry I can be of no further help. However, I'll dig around and see
if I can come up with some photos of my seats which I will post on my
index page.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
<< I had a fairly hard trip of 850 miles (and 157, weep for us, America)>>
Whoops, sorry. That should be 157 fuel cost.
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Hi Pollus,
Kiwimick says you are considering joining a flight from the UK to Bloise,
France in the summer for the fly in.
That would be a nice flight. If the building goes well, you never know.....
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: [ Steve Kroll ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
:
>
> Poster: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Subject: Mk2 at sunset
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/muso2080@yahoo.com.01.09.2005/index.html
>
> Steve,
That is a beutiful Mk-2, thanks for posting the photo. The Mk-2 was my
original love and the bird that got me interested in Kolbs many years ago,
they still have all the allure they ever had.
On the subject of engines, that 503 is as good a 2 stroke as you'll ever
find as far as reliability goes, but if you want the 4 stroke to increase
your range, I think the best route is the HKS, well proven like the 503 and
miserly on the fuel. Tom Olenik could help you with any info about the HKS.
Price is the only bummer, but maybe they have some winter discounts going.
Take Care,
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Engine Package for Sale |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" <ulpilot@cavtel.net>
Larry
Lunch sounds good one day this summer. I have my fuselage, wings and tail
feathers covered and painted and working on painting the nose fairing. As
soon as I get the nose painted, I will install it and the lexan. I am
starting to work on my instrument panel as well. I also will have the EIS
with the VSI/ALT option, an ASI, compass, GPS and a microaire radio but not
a transponder. I wired the wing tip strobes up this past weekend and plan
taking advantage of the warm weather this week and spray the nose fairing
again.
I hope to have the Richmond FSDO inspection complete by the end of March and
then fly off the 40 hours in time to fly to London, KY in the fall, weather
permitting of course.
Jim Ballenger
Flying a FS KXP 447
Building a MK III X
Virginia Beach, VA
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Cat36Fly@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 582 Engine Package for Sale
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Cat36Fly@aol.com
>
> Jim,
>
> Perhaps we can meet half way for lunch somewhere on the Chesapeake as I am
up
> in Dover, Delaware.
> I have not selected the prop but it will be a 3 blade and probably a warp
> also. I just finished covering my tail feathers and plan to start the
wings soon.
> I am also working the instrument stack (radio,xponder,EIS.intercom) in my
> spare time. The panel is assembled but I need something to hold it up.
> How far along are you?
>
> Larry Tasker
> N615RT
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Young" <j.y@blueyonder.co.uk>
Hi Carl,
Sorry to hear about your hanger & plane. Glad to say we've had no problems
at Otherton Yet!
BTW are you the same Carl I took flying in my Kolb a while ago? There can't
be that many Carls with Kolbs in the U.K.
John Young
MKIII G-MYPC
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Trollope
Subject: Kolb-List: RE:UK Gales
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Carl Trollope" <flash_too@yahoo.co.uk>
Hi,
The recent gales in the UK have wreaked their havoc
I now need a new hangar to keep my Kolb Mk III in...!!
It was last seen leaving Staffordshire heading towards Derbyshire....
Fortunately when the hangar departed the Kolb was left pointing into the
wind with folded wings.....
Remarkably it stayed put but on its way the hangar clipped the aileron on
the right wing causing some damage.... worth tying them down even in a
hanager....!!
I have emailed Mike for spares so hopefully will not be down too long after
all now my aircraft is US the sun will come out and the wind will stop...!!
Carl
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ULDAD@aol.com
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:18:46 A.M. Central Standard Time,
rsanoa@yahoo.com writes:
I still have a good many parts for the 0-145.
Definitely not Kolb related. Sorry.
Ray,
Would you happen to have a carb for an A-65 laying around? Or just the
bottom half? Sounds like you might have a collection of "stuff".
Bill Griffin
FireStar
BabyAce/ A-65
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Since the FSII that we just finished is owned by a man with back problems,
we also had to do some creative seat mods. The pilot seat is a standard Wal
Mart plastic boat seat shell, the $26 variety, trimmed along the sides to
make it narrower. It rests in a very light steel frame which snaps in and
out of the existing framework. It has 2" of Temperfoam in the base area and
up the back. It also has a detachable backrest/headrest which comes off to
allow flying with a passenger (38.5 hours from now). It is light weight and
extremely comfortable.
Details/pictures will be posted on the web site after the hangar is finished.
Richard Pike
FSII N582EF
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Seats and Temperfoam |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
John, and gang,
I too use Temperfoam...in many places. I have a fiberglass seat in my Kolb,
with temper foam glued to it and a seatcover over....I have a temperfoam pad
under me right now on my computer chair...one of those 14"square pieces of
scrap from wicks they sell at all the shows..I bought one for my mother in
law for her chair also and made alot of points.
and now we have 2 pillows on the bed....they are called memoryfoam
pillows...18 bucks from Walmart...they are the same basic stuff....this
stuff is really good, once you try it you wont believe how good it is
men....
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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