Kolb-List Digest Archive

Thu 01/13/05


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 05:32 AM - FireFly Fuel Pump Caution (N27SB@aol.com)
     2. 05:58 AM - Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution (Jack & Louise Hart)
     3. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: EAA Experimenter Article (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
     4. 07:16 AM - Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution (N27SB@aol.com)
     5. 07:39 AM - Thermocouple Wires (Terry Davis)
     6. 08:54 AM - Re: Thermocouple Wires (Richard Pike)
     7. 09:02 AM - Alternate engines (snuffy@usol.com)
     8. 09:08 AM - Re: UK upgrades (PATRICK LADD)
     9. 09:23 AM - e-bay BMW commentary (Jason Omelchuck)
    10. 09:44 AM - Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution (herbgh@juno.com)
    11. 10:24 AM - Re: e-bay BMW commentary (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
    12. 10:57 AM - Re: UK upgrades (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
    13. 11:11 AM - Re: UK upgrades (John Hauck)
    14. 12:45 PM - Re: e-bay BMW commentary (Kirk Smith)
    15. 12:54 PM - DEAR KOLB LIST!!!!! (Gary r. voigt)
    16. 01:00 PM - kolb for sale!!! (Gary r. voigt)
    17. 01:33 PM - kolb for sale!!! (Gary r. voigt)
    18. 01:47 PM - kolb for sale!!! (Gary r. voigt)
    19. 02:04 PM - Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution (ray anderson)
    20. 02:27 PM - Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution (herbgh@juno.com)
    21. 02:32 PM - kolb for sale !!! (Gary r. voigt)
    22. 02:57 PM - Re: e-bay BMW commentary (woody)
    23. 03:07 PM - kolb for sale!!! (Gary r. voigt)
    24. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: Ms diixie Kolbra number 012! (Paul Petty)
    25. 06:32 PM - Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution (N27SB@aol.com)
    26. 06:51 PM - Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution (ray anderson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:32:18 AM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com Hi to All, The reason that I switched my Dual Mikuni fuel pump on the FireFly to a single pump was because of poor clearance between the right aileron control horn and the pump fittings. I noticed this prior to a flight by seeing a mist of fuel while pumping up the carb. The control horn had pinched the new tygon fuel line at the output fitting and made a tiny hole. This could have been a real problem. My configuration makes this possible because of the floats that are installed. However if it is possible for your control horn to contact your pump and you fold your plane this could happen. I think TNK ships the dual pump on the new Firefly kits in order to stock just one pump. I will call Travis this morning and mention this to him. Also, Duane tells me that he switched to the dual pump because CPA told him that it had better guts. Can anyone verify this? Steve Boetto FireFly #007 on Floats Skimmin and Grinnin


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    Time: 05:58:27 AM PST US
    From: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
    Subject: Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net> At 08:28 AM 1/13/05 EST, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com > >Hi to All, >The reason that I switched my Dual Mikuni fuel pump on the FireFly to a >single pump was because of poor clearance between the right aileron control horn >and the pump fittings. ................................. >Also, Duane tells me that he switched to the dual pump because CPA told him >that it had better guts. Can anyone verify this? > Steve, Can't verify that the dual pump is better, but I can say that I have 169 hours on a small one. I expect to rebuild it at 200 hours. Jack B. Hart FF004 Jackson, MO Jack & Louise Hart jbhart@ldd.net


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    Time: 06:28:49 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: EAA Experimenter Article
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: EAA Experimenter Article > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> > > HEY, WAIT..........! ! ! You're just too durned eager...........I wuz > gonna > nominate ol' Arizona Dave............?? Railroaded Lar. > Do not Archive. > > Larry Bourne HA! "wuzgonna," "wuzgonna," "wuzgonna." Too late To wait You can cry from afar You got the job, gogittum biglar AzDave Do Not Archive > > >


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    Time: 07:16:03 AM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 1/13/05 7:58:55 AM Central Standard Time, jbhart@ldd.net writes: > Can't verify that the dual pump is better, but I can say that I have 169 > hours on a small one. I expect to rebuild it at 200 hours. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Jackson, MO > > Thanks Jack, I talked to Travis this morning and he says that Kodiak quit supplying the single pump with the engine kits. He will see about stocking it for those who want an option. That may be better than modifying each new cage. The single pump is still available from CPA, Leading edge and Aircraft Spruce for about $20.00. Steve Boetto WetFly #007 do not archive


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    Time: 07:39:50 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Davis" <davistcs@eoni.com>
    Subject: Thermocouple Wires
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry Davis" <davistcs@eoni.com> Kolbers, Since everyone here seems to have more experience than I do. Can I bundle the thermocouple wires for the EIS with the wires from the alternator on my 503? I'm wondering if the AC in the alt wires would interfere with the tiny current in the thermocouple wires Is this a problem?. Mag kill wires should be no problem since they are shielded. I would like to make everything nice and neat in one bundle. Terry Davis FS2 Home Stretch (yeah, right!)


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    Time: 08:54:42 AM PST US
    From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Thermocouple Wires
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Never had any problems with that. Ought to do just fine. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 07:39 AM 1/13/2005 -0800, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Terry Davis" <davistcs@eoni.com> > >Kolbers, > >Since everyone here seems to have more experience than I do. Can I bundle >the thermocouple wires for the EIS with the wires from the alternator on >my 503? I'm wondering if the AC in the alt wires would interfere with the >tiny current in the thermocouple wires Is this a problem?. Mag kill >wires should be no problem since they are shielded. I would like to make >everything nice and neat in one bundle. > >Terry Davis FS2 Home Stretch (yeah, right!) > >


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    Time: 09:02:57 AM PST US
    From: snuffy@usol.com
    Subject: Alternate engines
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com Look at this one guys...... http://www.sea-plane.com/product_details_turboprop.htm Do not archive


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    Time: 09:08:03 AM PST US
    From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: UK upgrades
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> | Uprate Control surface hinges Please explain the above requirement.>> Hi John, dunno! Haven`t looked that up yet. No doubt Kiwimick will tell us as he is about at that point with his wing construction. Looks as though the PFA engineering dept and you are on the same wavelength. That gives me comfidence. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 09:23:45 AM PST US
    From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
    Subject: e-bay BMW commentary
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com> A little additional on this kind of BMW engine (I do not know anything about this particular engine). It is a later model BMW with oil cooled heads. The engine is throttle body fuel injected and would need an oil cooler. It should put out between 80 and 85 HP (it does not say on ebay what the displacement is). Parts for this are readily available and there are people who can make it a dual plug engine. I believe the drive is out of Germany and it costs about $1700 when fully configured. The drive incorporates a centrifugal clutch. The entire package should weigh around 170# when installed. I don't believe the drive can be rotated to the down position (but my "C" box is in the up position on my MKIII BMW). All of us on the list (that I know of) are using an older model of BMW that is carbureted and totally air cooled. The engine on e-bay seems like it would be a good deal (if its actually in good shape) if it goes for around $2500, a person could have it flying for an additional $500 to $700. This information is based on me having no experience with this particular type of engine and redrive, but I have been researching BMW's for a long time. It is up to the potential purchaser to cover their own rear end. Information on the reduction drive http://www.takeoff-ul.de/Motoren/info_motor_eng.pdf Jason Omelchuck MKIII Classic BMW R100 W/Rotax "C" box Will run by this spring (like I haven't said that before) Time: 01:37:45 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Engine Choices --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> Hey I was looking thru E-bay and ran accross a BMW engine with reduction drive for sale. It is up to $1500.00 but will likely go for more. The reduction drive looks like it can be mount in the down position so that the thrust line will be lower. Check it out at http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&ite m=4518192138&rd=1> &category=26437&item=4518192138&rd=1 Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc


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    Time: 09:44:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution
    From: herbgh@juno.com
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Fellers I think the round pump has a mylar diaphram which is pretty much indestructable. the square one has a rubber diaphram which has all of the attributes of rubber. Cracking and drying! Herb On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:28:05 EST N27SB@aol.com writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com > > Hi to All, > The reason that I switched my Dual Mikuni fuel pump on the FireFly > to a > single pump was because of poor clearance between the right aileron > control horn >


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    Time: 10:24:09 AM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: e-bay BMW commentary
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> Jason Actually the web site that the add. directs you to shows that the reduction drive can be mounted up or down. This version of the BMW engine is offered new in 80, 90, and 100HP versions were the only differences are in the RPMs that the engine runs. It looks like quite a deal depending on the bidding. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com> Subject: Kolb-List: e-bay BMW commentary > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com> > > A little additional on this kind of BMW engine (I do not know anything > about > this particular engine). It is a later model BMW with oil cooled heads. > The engine is throttle body fuel injected and would need an oil cooler. It > should put out between 80 and 85 HP (it does not say on ebay what the > displacement is). Parts for this are readily available and there are > people > who can make it a dual plug engine. I believe the drive is out of Germany > and it costs about $1700 when fully configured. The drive incorporates a > centrifugal clutch. The entire package should weigh around 170# when > installed. I don't believe the drive can be rotated to the down position > (but my "C" box is in the up position on my MKIII BMW). All of us on the > list (that I know of) are using an older model of BMW that is carbureted > and > totally air cooled. The engine on e-bay seems like it would be a good > deal > (if its actually in good shape) if it goes for around $2500, a person > could > have it flying for an additional $500 to $700. This information is based > on > me having no experience with this particular type of engine and redrive, > but > I have been researching BMW's for a long time. It is up to the potential > purchaser to cover their own rear end. > > > Information on the reduction drive > http://www.takeoff-ul.de/Motoren/info_motor_eng.pdf > > > Jason Omelchuck > > MKIII Classic > > BMW R100 W/Rotax "C" box > > Will run by this spring (like I haven't said that before) > > > Time: 01:37:45 PM PST US > > From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Engine Choices > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > > > Hey I was looking thru E-bay and ran accross a BMW engine with reduction > > drive for sale. It is up to $1500.00 but will likely go for more. The > > reduction drive looks like it can be mount in the down position so that > the > > thrust line will be lower. Check it out at > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&ite > m=4518192138&rd=1> &category=26437&item=4518192138&rd=1 > > > Rick Neilsen > > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > > >


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    Time: 10:57:31 AM PST US
    From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: UK upgrades
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk> John/all. The hinges on the UK models has to be changed from the origional rolled type to extruded, this is to eliminate the possibility of the hinge un rolling in the event of flutter or wear. We have TNK supply all this in the kits now, including the roll control stops which are wilded to the aileron torque tube. These are all mods which I had to devise to gain compliance of the BCAR section S requirements. Mike Xtra/Jab 2200 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: UK upgrades > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > Patrick/Gang: > > You are correct. Some of us have upgraded certain items. > > > Please explain the above requirement. > > > I upgraded to 3mm (.120" or 1/8") up elevator cable. Left the down > elevator cable at 3.32". All the down elevator, on my airplane, does > is go along for the ride. The bottom cable is the worker. > > > Fully enclosed the fuselage. Not with lexan, but fabric. > > squab. > > Installed hard seats on 4130 frames with aluminum sheet riveted to > frame under the hard seat. > > I haven't forgotten about pics of my seats. Still looking. Failed to > find any pics last night. > > john h > > >


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    Time: 11:11:04 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: UK upgrades
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> rolled type | to extruded, this is to eliminate the possibility of the hinge un rolling in | the event of flutter or wear. | We have TNK supply all this in the kits now, including the roll control | stops which are wilded to the aileron torque tube. | These are all mods which I had to devise to gain compliance of the BCAR | section S requirements. | | Mike Hi Mike/Gang: That's what I figured. However, based on punishment, i.e., crashes, horsing controls, etc., one will not unroll the normal piano hinge we have been using since day one. All my airplanes were tested, inadvertently, in slight to full flutter of the ailerons. No problems with hinges. I have never been able to get a Kolb to flutter the elevators, however, some pretty severe occillations could be gotten into if half asleep at the controls and too little pressure was kept on the rudder pedals to prevent inadvertent rudder flutter. We put aileron stops on my MKIII. Elevator stops were built into the elevator control mechanism when it hits the tailpost ring, top and bottom. Take care, john h PS: Thanks for the info.


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    Time: 12:45:52 PM PST US
    From: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
    Subject: Re: e-bay BMW commentary
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com> "Can you demonstrate that this engine runs to the winning bidder? Thanks!! Kirk Smith, in Michigan" I sent the above question to the seller of this BMW engine on ebay and below is his response. "the engine came off 1995 r1100rs runing, but wrecked. it comes with the wire harness for the ultralight, throthle bodies, injectors, starter, generator. we have a customer that will sell his computer for 450.00. the engine is the best engine bmw every built" I wasn't sure whether the engine was running after the wreck from his response so I sent him another question asking if it was indeed running after the wreck and what he meant by ultralight harness. I have yet to recieve a reply. Maybe I'm asking to many questions? Do not archive


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    Time: 12:54:34 PM PST US
    From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
    kolb-list@matronics.com
    Subject: DEAR KOLB LIST!!!!!
    0.44 FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS Outlook can't send HTML in this format 0.00 DRUGS_MUSCLE Refers to a muscle relaxant 0.26 UPPERCASE_25_50 message body is 25-50% uppercase --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net> The pics you see are without the chute and no full inclosure as these were taken a coulpe of years ago. this plane has only been outside for flying time only (90 hours) and i was finished with the build process in 2001 and plane has been flown for only 4 years. i will post more pics with the chute on and full enclosure when the weather warms up. thanks, Gary r. voigt


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    Time: 01:00:15 PM PST US
    From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
    Subject: kolb for sale!!!
    0.44 FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS Outlook can't send HTML in this format --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>


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    Time: 01:33:30 PM PST US
    From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
    Subject: kolb for sale!!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net> Dear kolb list...the past 4 years has been a pleasure to know you fellows and many of you have given me a wealth of information and I can't even begin to mention all the names with the fact that I might miss some names. Ok john h. on planes and big lar on some antique gas engines and I can't forget my flying buddies ralph b. jon l. and turk. First of all I know i'am going to be asked why i'am leaving this sport for now and there are several reasons why. First of all I just plain have too many hobbies and i'am spreading myself too thin. I love my john deere tractors and miss restoring them as I have no time anymore. Also I will be getting a new hunting dog this spring and want to spend more time with it this fall for hunting. Land will be coming up for sale next to our cabin up north and I want to get enough cash together to purchase it for my later years in life to enjoy and work on tractors. (homer would be proud) I have always wanted to fly ultralights in the mid seventies but never had the money and now that I have flown them i'am satisfied. Here is what i'am selling..... 1993 ? Kolb kxp firestar w/447 rotax point ign. 5 gal. gas tank,7 rib wing Hours on airframe and engine.....87 90% full enclosure w/right side door Gauges on panel are: ball and slip compass card 3" asi alt. 1,000 - 10,000...20' inc. cht egt combo rpm & hour meter discs brakes tennessee prop is 66" x 32 kuntzleman dual flash streamlined wing tip strobes...(280.00) I bought this plane in the spring of 2000(yes he was still working on it after 7 years because he would only work in the summer months when it was warm because he had no heat in the shop for winter) 80% finished from an engineer who bought it brand new. He has done all the fabric work on it and he was as engineers are very meticulous. All I had to do is buy gauges and install the engine and gas lines and put a brand new BRS in 2001 of aug. on it. Repack is due aug. of 2007 and rocket is due 2012 of aug. so you see you can fly awhile without spending a lot of money right away. Gauges alone were over 700.00 and I did not buy the cheap ones. The plane has been painted in insignia white and is in very nice cond. It could use another coat on the boom tube in some spots as it was sprayed on light in some areas. The plane has never been wrecked and I have never even had a hard landing with it nor has the legs ever been bent. It flies just as a kolb should with no surprises. Cruises at 60 with the 66" x 32 prop. If you put a IVO prop on this I know you will get 70mph out of her because I have streamlined the full enclosure. As you can see by the hours on this low time kolb I did not fly as much as I would have liked to. It seemed liked when I worked it was always calm outside and when I was off it was lousy weather. Also trying to take care of 200 acres and a cabin was not easy. This will make someone a very nice aircraft and if they want to paint it I have 3 gal. of cub yellow paint #143,1 gal.paint cleaner, 2 gal. reducer, 1 qt. reducer, 1 qt. rejuvenator, 1 qt. polybrush, 1 qt. poly spray. I just bought all these items last year and it came to over 460.00 for it all and if the person who buys the plane wants it he has first choice at that time to buy it for 325.00 otherwise I will sell it to someone on the list if they are interested. I have receipts for any item you wish to look at. I will try and get as many pics of the plane and at any angle you want. I also have a 2000 24' enclosed haulmark tandem dual electric brakes. 3500 lb. Per Axel haulmark. 4' beavertail inside. Curb side door and rear folding ramp door. I'am asking 10,700 for the plane and 9800.00 with out the BRS. If you wish to buy the plane and trailer add 4300.00 or 14,100 with out the B.S. If you wish to purchase just the trailer that is 4500.00 I will deliver this plane with or without trailer purchase for 1.50 a loaded mile up to 500 miles from mpls. I will not sell the trailer before the plane as I have no room to store it as it is my hanger. If you want me to demo the plane for you and you are close to mpls. Please let me know and we can make arrangements. I may put a couple more hours on it as the snow is here and I have my skiis on it right now. If I don't sell it on the list I will then list it on barnstormers and at that point if it still does not sell I will list it on ebay and I plan on not to give it away but I 'am confident someone will buy it on the kolb list or they may know someone who would like a nice kolb kxp model. There may be some of you who are not familiar with the kolb product and if you call me I will tell you more about the features of this ultralight. Please, please, please, if you have any questions about this unit please contact me by phone or email @ johndeereantique@qwest.net Thanks, Gary r. voigt


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    Time: 01:47:15 PM PST US
    From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
    Subject: kolb for sale!!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net> Dear kolb list...the past 4 years has been a pleasure to know you fellows and many of you have given me a wealth of information and I can't even begin to mention all the names with the fact that I might miss some names. Ok john h. on planes and big lar on some antique gas engines and I can't forget my flying buddies ralph b. jon l. and turk. First of all I know i'am going to be asked why i'am leaving this sport for now and there are several reasons why. First of all I just plain have too many hobbies and i'am spreading myself too thin. I love my john deere tractors and miss restoring them as I have no time anymore. Also I will be getting a new hunting dog this spring and want to spend more time with it this fall for hunting. Land will be coming up for sale next to our cabin up north and I want to get enough cash together to purchase it for my later years in life to enjoy and work on tractors. (homer would be proud) I have always wanted to fly ultralights in the mid seventies but never had the money and now that I have flown them i'am satisfied. Here is what i'am selling..... 1993 ? Kolb kxp firestar w/447 rotax point ign. 5 gal. gas tank,7 rib wing Hours on airframe and engine.....87 90% full enclosure w/right side door Gauges on panel are: ball and slip compass card 3" asi alt. 1,000 - 10,000...20' inc. cht egt combo rpm & hour meter discs brakes tennessee prop is 66" x 32 kuntzleman dual flash streamlined wing tip strobes...(280.00) I bought this plane in the spring of 2000(yes he was still working on it after 7 years because he would only work in the summer months when it was warm because he had no heat in the shop for winter) 80% finished from an engineer who bought it brand new. He has done all the fabric work on it and he was as engineers are very meticulous. All I had to do is buy gauges and install the engine and gas lines and put a brand new BRS in 2001 of aug. on it. Repack is due aug. of 2007 and rocket is due 2012 of aug. so you see you can fly awhile without spending a lot of money right away. Gauges alone were over 700.00 and I did not buy the cheap ones. The plane has been painted in insignia white and is in very nice cond. It could use another coat on the boom tube in some spots as it was sprayed on light in some areas. The plane has never been wrecked and I have never even had a hard landing with it nor has the legs ever been bent. It flies just as a kolb should with no surprises. Cruises at 60 with the 66" x 32 prop. If you put a IVO prop on this I know you will get 70mph out of her because I have streamlined the full enclosure. As you can see by the hours on this low time kolb I did not fly as much as I would have liked to. It seemed liked when I worked it was always calm outside and when I was off it was lousy weather. Also trying to take care of 200 acres and a cabin was not easy. This will make someone a very nice aircraft and if they want to paint it I have 3 gal. of cub yellow paint #143,1 gal.paint cleaner, 2 gal. reducer, 1 qt. reducer, 1 qt. rejuvenator, 1 qt. polybrush, 1 qt. poly spray. I just bought all these items last year and it came to over 460.00 for it all and if the person who buys the plane wants it he has first choice at that time to buy it for 325.00 otherwise I will sell it to someone on the list if they are interested. I have receipts for any item you wish to look at. I will try and get as many pics of the plane and at any angle you want. I also have a 2000 24' enclosed haulmark tandem dual electric brakes. 3500 lb. Per Axel haulmark. 4' beavertail inside. Curb side door and rear folding ramp door. I'am asking 10,700 for the plane and 9800.00 with out the BRS. If you wish to buy the plane and trailer add 4300.00 or 14,100 with out the B.S. If you wish to purchase just the trailer that is 4500.00 I will deliver this plane with or without trailer purchase for 1.50 a loaded mile up to 500 miles from mpls. I will not sell the trailer before the plane as I have no room to store it as it is my hanger. If you want me to demo the plane for you and you are close to mpls. Please let me know and we can make arrangements. I may put a couple more hours on it as the snow is here and I have my skiis on it right now. If I don't sell it on the list I will then list it on barnstormers and at that point if it still does not sell I will list it on ebay and I plan on not to give it away but I 'am confident someone will buy it on the kolb list or they may know someone who would like a nice kolb kxp model. There may be some of you who are not familiar with the kolb product and if you call me I will tell you more about the features of this ultralight. Please, please, please, if you have any questions about this unit please contact me by phone or email @ johndeereantique@qwest.net Thanks, Gary r. voigt


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    Time: 02:04:11 PM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> My square Mikuni has a mylar diaphram. herbgh@juno.com wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Fellers I think the round pump has a mylar diaphram which is pretty much indestructable. the square one has a rubber diaphram which has all of the attributes of rubber. Cracking and drying! Herb On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:28:05 EST N27SB@aol.com writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com > > Hi to All, > The reason that I switched my Dual Mikuni fuel pump on the FireFly > to a > single pump was because of poor clearance between the right aileron > control horn > ---------------------------------


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    Time: 02:27:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution
    From: herbgh@juno.com
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Well Shoot!! Howd dey git dat round thang in thet square box?? Kidding aside; my square ones have rubber? Old models I guess? Herb do not archive On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:04:00 -0800 (PST) ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> writes: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> > > My square Mikuni has a mylar diaphram. > > herbgh@juno.com wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: > herbgh@juno.com > > Fellers > I think the round pump has a mylar diaphram which is pretty much > indestructable. the square one has a rubber diaphram which has all > of the > attributes of rubber. Cracking and drying! Herb >


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    Time: 02:32:16 PM PST US
    From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
    Subject: kolb for sale !!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net> Dear kolb list.....the past 4 years has been a pleasure to know you fellows and many of you have given me a wealth of information and i can't even begin to mention all the names with the fact that i might miss some names. ok john. h on planes and big lar on antique gas engines. and i can't forget my flying buddies ralph b. jon l. and turk. first of all i know i'am going to be asked why i'am leaving this sport for now and there are several reasons why. i have done more things and have had more hobbies than most people will ever dream of doing at twice my age....hunting, fishing,scuba diving,flying,metal detecting,collectors john deere tractors etc. i'am just spreading myself too thin. i love my john deere tractors and miss restoring them as i have no time anymore. also i wioll be getting a new hunting dog this spring and want to spend more time with it this for hunting. more land will be coming up for sale next to our cabin this fall and i need to get some cash together to purchase it for my later years in life to enjoy and work on tractors (homer would be proud) i have always wanted to fly ultralights in the mid seventies but never had the money and now that i have flown them i'am satisfied. here is what i'am selling... 1993 ? kolb kxp firestar w/ rotax 447 point ign. 5 gal. gas tank, 7 rib wing. hrs. on airfram and engine are 87 90% full enclosure w/ right side door gauges on panel are: ball and slip compass card 3" asi alt 1,000 - 10,000...20' inc. cht egt combo rpm & hour meter discs brakes tennesse prop is 66" x 32 kuntzleman dual flash wingtip strobes....paid $280.00 i bought this plane in the spring of 2000( yes he was still working on it after 7 years because he would only work on it in the summer months because he had no heat in the garage for the winter)80% finished from an engineer who bought it brand new. he has done all the fabri work on it and as you know engineers are very meticulous. all i had to do is buy the gauges and install the engine and gas lines and purchase a brand new brs 500 in 2001 of aug. on it. repack is due in 2007 of aug. and the rocket is due on 2012 of aug. so you see you can fly a while without spending alot of money right away. gauges alone were over 700.00 alone and i did not buy the cheap ones. the plane has been painted in insignia white and is in very nice cond. it could use another coat on some ares of the boom tube because it was sprayed on light. the plane has never been wrecked and i have never even had a hard landing with it nor have the legs ever been bent. it flies just as a kolb should with no surprises. cruises at 60 with the 66" x 32 prop. if you put an ivo prop on this i know you will get 70 mph out of here brcause i have streamlined the full enclosure. as you can see by the hours on this low time kolb i did fly as much as i would have liked to. it seemed like when i worked it was calm outside and when i was off the weather was lousy. also try to take care of 200 acres and a cabin was not easy. this will make someone a very nice aircraft. and if they want to paint it I have 3 gal. of cub yellow paint #143,1 gal.paint cleaner, 2 gal. reducer, 1 qt. reducer, 1 qt. rejuvenator, 1 qt. polybrush, 1 qt. poly spray. I just bought all these items last year and it came to over 460.00 for it all and if the person who buys the plane wants it he has first choice at that time to buy it for 325.00 otherwise I will sell it to someone on the list if they are interested. I have receipts for any item you wish to look at. I will try and get as many pics of the plane and at any angle you want. I also have a 2000 24' enclosed haulmark tandem dual electric brakes. 3500 lb. Per Axel haulmark. 4' beavertail inside. Curb side door and rear folding ramp door. I'am asking 10,700 for the plane and 9800.00 with out the BRS. If you wish to buy the plane and trailer add 4300.00 or 14,100 with out the B.S. If you wish to purchase just the trailer that is 4500.00 I will deliver this plane with or without trailer purchase for 1.50 a loaded mile up to 500 miles from mpls. I will not sell the trailer before the plane as I have no room to store it as it is my hanger. If you want me to demo the plane for you and you are close to mpls. Please let me know and we can make arrangements. I may put a couple more hours on it as the snow is here and I have my skiis on it right now. If I don't sell it on the list I will then list it on barnstormers and at that point if it still does not sell I will list it on ebay and I plan on not to give it away but I 'am confident someone will buy it on the kolb list or they may know someone who would like a nice kolb kxp model. There may be some of you who are not familiar with the kolb product and if you call me I will tell you more about the features of this ultralight. Please, please, please, if you have any questions about this unit please contact me by phone or email @ johndeereantique@qwest.net Thanks, Gary r. voigt


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    Time: 02:57:51 PM PST US
    From: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
    Subject: Re: e-bay BMW commentary
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net> If nobody else is interested in this engine I will bid on it. If somebody wants it let me know and I will back off. No point of us upping the purchase price needlessly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com> Subject: Kolb-List: e-bay BMW commentary > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com> > > A little additional on this kind of BMW engine (I do not know anything about > this particular engine). It is a later model BMW with oil cooled heads. > The engine is throttle body fuel injected and would need an oil cooler. It > should put out between 80 and 85 HP (it does not say on ebay what the > displacement is). Parts for this are readily available and there are people > who can make it a dual plug engine. I believe the drive is out of Germany > and it costs about $1700 when fully configured. The drive incorporates a > centrifugal clutch. The entire package should weigh around 170# when > installed. I don't believe the drive can be rotated to the down position > (but my "C" box is in the up position on my MKIII BMW). All of us on the > list (that I know of) are using an older model of BMW that is carbureted and > totally air cooled. The engine on e-bay seems like it would be a good deal > (if its actually in good shape) if it goes for around $2500, a person could > have it flying for an additional $500 to $700. This information is based on > me having no experience with this particular type of engine and redrive, but > I have been researching BMW's for a long time. It is up to the potential > purchaser to cover their own rear end. > > > Information on the reduction drive > http://www.takeoff-ul.de/Motoren/info_motor_eng.pdf > > > Jason Omelchuck > > MKIII Classic > > BMW R100 W/Rotax "C" box > > Will run by this spring (like I haven't said that before) > > > Time: 01:37:45 PM PST US > > From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Engine Choices > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > > > Hey I was looking thru E-bay and ran accross a BMW engine with reduction > > drive for sale. It is up to $1500.00 but will likely go for more. The > > reduction drive looks like it can be mount in the down position so that the > > thrust line will be lower. Check it out at > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&ite > m=4518192138&rd=1> &category=26437&item=4518192138&rd=1 > > > Rick Neilsen > > Redrive VW powered MKIIIc > >


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    Time: 03:07:15 PM PST US
    From: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net>
    Subject: kolb for sale!!!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" <johndeereantique@qwest.net> Here is one pic of the full enclosure and panel. please be paient as more pics to come. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/johndeereantique@qwest.net.01.22.2004/ thanks, Gary r. voigt


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    Time: 03:32:48 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Re: Ms diixie Kolbra number 012!
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> Dennis, Thank you for the compliment. The shop I have the luxury of working in belongs to my father-n-law. He built it mainly for the purpose of building and storing airplanes.As for making every jealous..well that was not my intent. But while were at it I might as well go ahead and rub in the fact it has central heating and air conditioning, carpeted office with internet, full bath and the whole shop cleans it's self! Just kidding. Hope to get the wings in their final position soon so I can assemble the lift struts and set her on the ground. Measured the distance from the prop to the ailerons and I have enough to make standard Mark III flaps! The torque tubes will have to me longer so they will reach the narrow fuselage where a Cessna flap motor will do it's thing. Thanks to all for the help could not have done this without this list. Should be covering soon! Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp ps. any time any of you want to wear your self out looking at pictures go to www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos new pictures uploaded weekly and to find the latest go by the date added. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Ms diixie Kolbra number 012! > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > << Kolbra 012 is taking shape! Just thought I would share a few photos. >> > > Paul - I'm sure you only post those kinds of pictures to make us all jealous > of your ENORMOUS, wonderful workshop! I had only a one-car garage to build > my Mark-III in - would've loved to have a big shop instead! Ms Dixie > finally looks like a real airplane. Nice progress. > > Dennis Kirby > New Mexico > do not archive > >


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    Time: 06:32:25 PM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 1/13/2005 5:28:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, herbgh@juno.com writes: > > Well Shoot!! > > Howd dey git dat round thang in thet square box?? > > Kidding aside; my square ones have rubber? Old models I guess? Herb > > Thanks for the info. I have rebuilt several chainsaw carbs, and in the last 2 years most have changed to mylar. But the funny thing is that the mylar does not last much longer than rubber. It appears that it is the little flappers that fatigue and fail. The real questions is what is supplied now. Steve do not archive


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    Time: 06:51:07 PM PST US
    From: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: FireFly Fuel Pump Caution
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com> Herb, I guess I slightly misspoke. Actually my Mikuni pump is more rectangular than square. N27SB@aol.com wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 1/13/2005 5:28:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, herbgh@juno.com writes: > > Well Shoot!! > > Howd dey git dat round thang in thet square box?? > > Kidding aside; my square ones have rubber? Old models I guess? Herb > > Thanks for the info. I have rebuilt several chainsaw carbs, and in the last 2 years most have changed to mylar. But the funny thing is that the mylar does not last much longer than rubber. It appears that it is the little flappers that fatigue and fail. The real questions is what is supplied now. Steve do not archive




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