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1. 04:12 AM - Re: Re: av-gas (kfackler)
2. 04:19 AM - Re: MV (John Jung)
3. 07:47 AM - MARK 3 FOR SALE (WILLIAM B UPSHUR)
4. 08:13 AM - Fw: Navajo facts (snuffy@usol.com)
5. 12:01 PM - Re: AvGas (Steve Kroll)
6. 03:17 PM - Re: AvGas & Rotax 503 (George E. Thompson)
7. 04:52 PM - Paint scheme (John Raeburn)
8. 05:44 PM - Re: Paint scheme (John Hauck)
9. 07:09 PM - Re: Paint scheme (Don Gherardini)
10. 07:26 PM - Re: Paint scheme (woody)
11. 08:03 PM - Rotax Oil Injection Tubing (Frank & Margie Clyma)
12. 08:41 PM - FF pix (Bob N.)
13. 08:42 PM - avgas (alananpat)
14. 09:51 PM - Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats (John Hauck)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> Why use the 93? Betcha he couldn't tell you, either.
Actually, he could, and did. Apparently it helps reduce the amount of lead
deposits which, though small, do happen. Of course, that's -my-
understanding, which may be flawed.
He also explained, at length, about how to select the correct grade based on
how long the fuel will remain unused.
-Ken
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Group,
I have started planning my flight to MV. Last year I
trailered my Firestar there, but this year I will fly.
But why wait for MV? Flying in the Phoenix area is
like summer right now. Yesterday, Arizona Dave and I
flew for a few hours in 77 degree temperatures with
low winds. We plan to get some more time in today,
while this warm spell lasts.
Oh, my 503 Firestar and Dave's 582 Mark III seem to
cruise about the same speed. One difference is he
burned more fuel. How many gph to you 582 Mark III
drivers burn?
John Jung
Surprise, AZ
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: WILLIAM B UPSHUR <bupshur@juno.com>
Vic,
Here is a great chance for a good deal on a Mark III. Dave
Stroberg was building a quick build kit of the Mark III. Unfortunately
he developed cancer of the brain and is now dead. This Mark III was the
second Kolb that Dave has built. His wife Jo Stroberg is trying to find
someone to buy the unfinished plane. You have to talk to her as to how
much of the kit is completed. I am sure that you can get the Mark III at
a savings and at a good fair price. If you or any other List members are
interested contact:
Jo Stroberg
445 Woodland Church Road
Hertford, NC 27944
1-252-264-2240
Bill Upshur
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| Subject: | Fwd: Navajo facts |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: snuffy@usol.com
For those going to MV and would like more info on the Navajo nation
here is the website for the Washington office of the Navajo. Some
interesting statistics such as; the reservation is larger than each of 10 US
states. 56% of Navajo live below poverty level, 43 % unemployment rate
among them. They spend nearly 70% of their money outside the
reservation. Average annual income of just over $6000. Informative site.
http://www.nnwo.org/nnprofile.htm
Do not arcjive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
Cliff,
You've gotten lot's of advice....but I'd like to add my own. In most cases it
will back up what some of the other guys are saying.
Ultralights are not hard to fly but, they are different. Get some competent instruction
in yours before you consider cross country. You don't know your airplane
yet, neither it's flight characteristics nor it's mechanical aptitude. The
mechanical part is a matter of confidence and it takes some time to build that.
Once you know what you've got you will be far better prepared to even consider
cross country. Personally, I wouldn't consider cross country until you've
spent quite a bit of time in or near the patch building your confidence in
the machine. How much time that will be will depend on your learning curve and
your abilities as a pilot. In the end, that decision will be entirely your
own as it will be each and every time you fly.
You've come to the right place for advice but remember, all of us are different
in our approach to life in general and flying in specific. For instance, what
one guy might consider completely flyable weather might be considered marginal
by another. Ultimately, you make those kinds of decisions completely on your
own based on your skill level, the confidence you have gained in your machine
over time, and your own common sense. You will have to be brutally honest
with yourself for those decisions to have merit.
Good luck, happy flying, and welcome to the group.
Steve Kroll
220 hours ultralight (203.5 of it in my own Mk2...self built) and..
400+hours in glider and various other GA aircraft.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: AvGas & Rotax 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George E. Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
For what it's worth, when I took my long cross country, I just put a few
containers of Pennzoil in the baggage compartment and used av gas if no
other was available. A couple of FBO"s offered a car to go into town to get
car gas. I only did that a couple of times. The amount of Av gas you are
going to burn on your trip are not enough to worry about. I have no
experience with auto injectors so I have no comment on those. My opinion
only.
AZ Bald Eagle
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From: "Clifford Dow" <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: AvGas & Rotax 503
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Clifford Dow <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
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> Hello
> I'm new to Ultralights - can you run a Rotax 503 with regular avgas (mixed
> with 2 cycle oil of course)?
> if not - how do you all take a cross country trip? do you stop at local
> airports and run into town and get autofuel and fill up that way?
> I"m told mixing the 2 cycle oil right in with the gas is best since if you
> instead have an auto injector - if the auto injector fails - you fry your
> motor? Is it seldom that these auto injectors fail???
> The Ultralight I purchased is in Virginia - i'm thinking of flying it to
> Sun'N Fun - is that a HUGE trip - I figure 15 hours? Am I bitting off a
> bit more than I should for a first trip in an Ultralight?
> thanks
> cliff
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Raeburn <raeburn@direcway.com>
I'm in the process of repainting my Kolb Mk 111. and trying to come up with
a new paint scheme.
Does anyone out there have any images they can send me over the internet of
paint schemes they have used on their aircraft so I can get some new ideas
of what colors to paint my aircraft.
Any images will be greatly appreciated.
John Raeburn
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
internet of
| paint schemes they have used on their aircraft so I can get some new
ideas
| of what colors to paint my aircraft.
John R/Gang:
I got my paint scheme out of an RC Catalog. These catalogs are
selling RC models and each has a different paint scheme.
The only catalog I have at the present time is Tower Hobbies. You can
get one of their catalogs by going to their web site. Probably get
some ideas of paint schemes right off their site:
www.towerhobbies.com
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Mr Raeburn,
The prettiest Kolb I ever saw was the factory demo FireFly...grand champ at
sun-n-fun year before last.....I was just getting ready to paint mine and I
had cub yellow bought.....but The kind folks at Wicks lety me return it for
red , white and Blue when I came home from Florida that year.....painted
mine very similiar...check it out at some pics here if ya want.
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Paint scheme |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
Check the archives and see if you can find a Photo of my Mk111
"Thunderbird." It is painted as a giagantic thunderbird using the indian
style of art from the Pacific north west "Haida" If not contact me off line
and I can send a copy. Most on the list that have seen it seem to like it.
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| Subject: | Rotax Oil Injection Tubing |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Frank & Margie Clyma" <frank-margie@worldnet.att.net>
Ref. the below discussion on oil injection, does anyone have any info on how long
the little 1/8 inch oil feed tubing (from the pump to the intakes) lasts?
If it's anything like conventional UL fuel line, maybe we'd better replace it
every so often? (I've also got an oil injected 503 DCDI that's now about 5 years
old, and I've never heard anything about replacing the aforementioned oil
lines-----)
Frank Clyma
Orange Park, FL
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| I"m told mixing the 2 cycle oil right in with the gas is best since
if you instead have an auto injector - if the auto injector fails -
you fry your motor? Is it seldom that these auto injectors fail???
Either way works great. I don't think the injectors fail any more
often than the operator fails to add oil in the fuel.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
I have a rear view of the factory FF at last year's Sun 'n Fun. Ctc me.
Bob N. ronoy@shentel.net
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "alananpat" <alananpat@ev1.net>
This is in response to several posts about Avgas.
About 12 years ago I built a Kitfox II with the then new Rotax 582. They recommended
auto gas only. As I found out, this fuel is not always available, even when
the Flight Guide says it is. Sometimes you gotta use 100LL (I think LL stand
for "Lots-o-Lead") if you wish to fly XC. Lots of that lead stays in the combustion
chamber and will cause problems. 100LL will also flow through your engine
somewhat quicker than autogas.
While on a XC from the Houston area to Sun-n-Fun 1993 I stopped at Picayune, MS
and was given some very good advise: Add Marvel Mystery Oil to your fuel. Go
by the label and add in addition to the normal oil/fuel ratio.
I'm not sure why this works, but work it does. It prevents lead and carbon from
sticking anywhere inside the combustion chamber. I flew that Kitfox for 200 hours
and you could still see the very fine grooves machined into the top of the
piston after that time. I will always use MMO in any 2-stroke I own.
No I have no interest in the company except as a customer.
Alan
Soon to do the King Kolbra thing.
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| Subject: | Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
One of my favorite photos taken at Sun and Fun 2004:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/kolb_firefly.jpg
This one has been a while ago. Waiting to do the Dealers Showcase.
Also Sun and Fun, probably 1997. Dennis Souder in the Kolb Laser and
John Hauck in the Kolb Sling Shot:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0001.jpg
Some of you all asked about my MKIII seats, actually Ultrastar Seats.
This shot was taken Feb 1961, in the basement of the barn of the Kolb
Factory. Brother Jim and I were building and modifying MKIII serial
number M3-011:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0002.jpg
First dual controls in a MKIII designed by Jim Hauck. They still had
not flown and been tested. We still had some changes to make to make
them what they are today. TNK currently uses our dual controls in the
MKIIIc and MKIIIx:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0003.jpg
More MKIII seats:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0004.jpg
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0005.jpg
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0006.jpg
Burt Howland spun the end caps for my oil tank for the 582. Jim Hauck
used a piece of 5 inch tail boom to weld the end caps to:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0007.jpg
More seats:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0008.jpg
Sorry, forgot to roll this photo before I uploaded it to the index
page:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0009.jpg
I did good on this one and got it turned correctly:
http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/0010.jpg
Sorry it took so long to get these up. You would not believe how far
I had to dig to find them. Then, of course, one must look at all the
old photos as one searchs for what one is trying to find.
Take care,
john h
28F hauck's holler, alabama
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