---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/20/05: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:13 AM - Interesting Kolb color scheme (kfackler) 2. 05:34 AM - Re: Paint scheme (N27SB@aol.com) 3. 07:32 AM - Re: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats (John Hauck) 4. 07:45 AM - Re: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats (bryan green) 5. 08:14 AM - Re: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats (N27SB@aol.com) 6. 08:41 AM - kolb bryce canyon (b young) 7. 08:53 AM - Re: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats (John Hauck) 8. 08:57 AM - Re: kolb bryce canyon (John Hauck) 9. 09:42 AM - Re: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats (N27SB@aol.com) 10. 11:01 AM - Re: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats (robert bean) 11. 02:20 PM - Re: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats (Kirk Smith) 12. 02:36 PM - Kolb Laser (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd) 13. 03:08 PM - Re: Kolb Laser (kfackler) 14. 03:27 PM - Re: Kolb Laser (Rusty) 15. 04:12 PM - Re: MV (Dave & Eve Pelletier) 16. 04:44 PM - Re: MV (John Hauck) 17. 06:56 PM - Welding 4130 (Beauford) 18. 06:57 PM - Don's paint job (Bill Vincent) 19. 07:55 PM - Re: Welding 4130 (Richard Swiderwski) 20. 07:58 PM - Re: Kolb Laser (Richard Swiderwski) 21. 08:12 PM - MIG 4130 (Jim Baker) 22. 09:42 PM - Re: avgas (jerb) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:50 AM PST US From: "kfackler" Subject: Kolb-List: Interesting Kolb color scheme --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" http://www.staliteaviation.com/ken/butterfly.jpg Is it a Firefly or a Butterfly? -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:00 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Paint scheme --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 1/19/2005 10:10:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, donghe@one-eleven.net writes: > The prettiest Kolb I ever saw was the factory demo FireFly...grand champ at > sun-n-fun year before last.....I was just getting ready to paint mine and I > had cub yellow bought I agree. Credit should be given to Bryan Melborn for building and painting the FireFly. It took Grand Champion that year at Sun n Fun. steve do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:58 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | | http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/Hauck's%20Stuff/Kolb%20Stuff/kolb_firefly.jpg Morning All: Now that I have had time to think about it, the photo, above, was probably taken S&F 2003. I don't think I flew for Kolb last year. Memory sure goes fast when one hits what the Federal Government recognizes as "officially elderly". Clear and cold at hauck's holler, alabama. Was 21F last night and presently 39 and climbing. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:47 AM PST US From: bryan green Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green Morning John and all Looks like not too many folks talking today. That's a fine picture of the Firefly for sure. On the topic of seats, I have some photos of my seat modifications if anyone wants them contact me off list and I will send. Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar 377 BRS 19LBG John Hauck wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > >| > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:03 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 1/20/05 9:33:31 AM Central Standard Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: > Now that I have had time to think about it, the photo, above, was > probably taken S&F 2003. I don't think I flew for Kolb last year. > Memory sure goes fast when one hits what the Federal Government > recognizes as "officially elderly". > > Clear and cold at hauck's holler, alabama. Was 21F last night and > presently 39 and climbing. > > john h > You are right John, I remember the photo from 2003. However you did fly the FlagFly in 2004 because I remember you cuttin me and Norm off in the pattern. :-) steve do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:36 AM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Kolb-List: kolb bryce canyon --> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" " elsewhere such as Bryce Canyon." > Another beautiful place for sure. Is it legal to fly over at say 100 feet AGL? ----------------------------- the sectional says " all aircraft are requested to maintain a minimum altitude of 2000 ft above the surface of the following: national parks, monuments, seashores, lakeshores, recreation areas and sceinic riverways administered y the national park service, national wildlife refuges..............." boyd do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:50 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" fly the | FlagFly in 2004 because I remember you cuttin me and Norm off in the pattern. | :-) | | steve Steve/All: I didn't see it that way. From my point of view I out ran you all in the MKIIIx. ;-) Norm wasn't going to let me forget that. Now that he is gone, looks like you are going to pick up the slack. hehehe Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:57:41 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kolb bryce canyon --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" minimum altitude of 2000 ft above the surface of the following: national parks, monuments, seashores, lakeshores, recreation areas and sceinic riverways administered y the national park service, national wildlife refuges..............." | | boyd Morning boyd/All: John Williamson pointed out to me the 2000 ft min was "requested" not "mandatory". However, don't think we would be making many bownie points with the Park Ser is we flew as we normally do. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:45 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 1/20/05 10:54:27 AM Central Standard Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: > > Steve/All: > > I didn't see it that way. From my point of view I out ran you all in > the MKIIIx. ;-) > > Norm wasn't going to let me forget that. Now that he is gone, looks > like you are going to pick up the slack. hehehe > > Take care, > > john h > I'm just trying to fill in for him. (Tough Job) :-) Actually, it was a lot of fun to watch you buzz around in the little FlagFly. Now that I have finally flown one I see how much fun you were having. By the way, it is 78 degrees and sunny, had to run the a/c on the way to work this morning :-) Steve do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:01:47 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Sounds like a fun time. I know I have pissed off more than one "hundred dollar skyhawk" doing the five mile final into a flyin breakfast. Then I would slow down in front of 'em and watch the smoke come out the windows as they had to make a go-around. Just thinking about moseyin' down short final at 45mph in my Kolb has me smirking in anticipation. -BB do not archive On 20, Jan 2005, at 11:53 AM, John Hauck wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > | You are right John, I remember the photo from 2003. However you did > fly the > pattern. > > Steve/All: > > I didn't see it that way. From my point of view I out ran you all in > the MKIIIx. ;-) > > Norm wasn't going to let me forget that. Now that he is gone, looks > like you are going to pick up the slack. hehehe > > Take care, > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:20:28 PM PST US From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Photos and N101AB Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" > Sounds like a fun time. I know I have pissed off more than one > "hundred dollar skyhawk" doing the five mile final into a flyin > breakfast. Then I would slow down in front of 'em and watch > the smoke come out the windows as they had to make a go-around. > Just thinking about moseyin' down short final at 45mph in my > Kolb has me smirking in anticipation. Hehehehehehehe......... Do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:39 PM PST US From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Laser --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" All, Does anyone know what happened to the Laser, it sure looked like a nice aircraft. Mike Xtra/Jab2200 G-CDFA ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:59 PM PST US From: "kfackler" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Laser --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" Seeing the photo made me curious too. I sent an email to TNK this morning asking about it. Not available now but they plan to offer it again in the future. Didn't say when. -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Laser > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" > > All, > Does anyone know what happened to the Laser, it sure looked like a nice aircraft. > > Mike > Xtra/Jab2200 > G-CDFA > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:27:48 PM PST US From: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb Laser --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Seeing the photo made me curious too. I sent an email to TNK this morning asking about it. Not available now but they plan to offer it again in the future. Didn't say when. ------------- (RD) That's good news. I really liked the Laser, and recall bugging Dennis about it quite a bit when I was up at (the old) Kolb years ago. There was one complete plane, and at least two fuselage cages hanging around the barn, and I just couldn't quite get him to let me take one of the cages home. Hey Travis, are you listening? Send one down :-) Cheers, Rusty (hope my wife doesn't read this) ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:19 PM PST US From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Kolb-List: MV > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com > > Larry et al > > Im still out here, mostly just lurking around.. > I plan on making MV again this year, trailering out from So. Cal. with the > van. > > There was talk last year of Homer possibly joining us this year. John H, > any news on this? > > Erich Weaver > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:00 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" John H, | > any news on this? | > | > Erich Weaver Erich/All: Talked to Homer Kolb last night. He will make every effort to make MV 2005. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:45 PM PST US From: "Beauford" Subject: Kolb-List: Welding 4130 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" Kolbers... Will "standard" flux core wire produce safe welds on 4130, or does it require a "special" wire...? Thankee... Beauford FF #076 Brandon FL ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:47 PM PST US From: "Bill Vincent" Subject: Kolb-List: Don's paint job --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" Don Gherardini The paint job you did on your plane is beautiful ! Hopefully someday I will be able to see it in person...like at Oshkosh...hint hint! Bill Vincent Firestar II Upper Peninsula of Michigan Do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:18 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderwski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Welding 4130 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" Beauford, I never did MIG on cromoly, but all that I ever use on gas welding 4130 is standard mild steel rod, as per kolb manual. Richard Swiderski -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford Subject: Kolb-List: Welding 4130 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" Kolbers... Will "standard" flux core wire produce safe welds on 4130, or does it require a "special" wire...? Thankee... Beauford FF #076 Brandon FL ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:21 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderwski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb Laser --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" Rusty & All, I heard all three were sold off to someone, & that the reason for not going into production was the cost return ratio was too high. ...Richard Swiderski -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb Laser --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> Seeing the photo made me curious too. I sent an email to TNK this morning asking about it. Not available now but they plan to offer it again in the future. Didn't say when. ------------- (RD) That's good news. I really liked the Laser, and recall bugging Dennis about it quite a bit when I was up at (the old) Kolb years ago. There was one complete plane, and at least two fuselage cages hanging around the barn, and I just couldn't quite get him to let me take one of the cages home. Hey Travis, are you listening? Send one down :-) Cheers, Rusty (hope my wife doesn't read this) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:16 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Kolb-List: MIG 4130 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" > Will "standard" flux core wire produce safe welds on 4130, or does it > require a "special" wire...? ER80S-D2, ER70S-2 or ER80S-D2 will be the wires to use. Flux core? Nope. Requires shielded welding (co2 or co2/argon). Might want to run a search on MIG WELDING 4130...lots of articles online. Jim Baker 580.788.2779 '71 SV, 492TC Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:18 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: avgas --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb What 2-stroke oil do you use mixed at what ratio and how much Marvel Mystery Oil do you use per gallon of gas? jerb At 10:41 PM 1/19/05 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "alananpat" > >This is in response to several posts about Avgas. > >About 12 years ago I built a Kitfox II with the then new Rotax 582. They >recommended auto gas only. As I found out, this fuel is not always >available, even when the Flight Guide says it is. Sometimes you gotta use >100LL (I think LL stand for "Lots-o-Lead") if you wish to fly XC. Lots of >that lead stays in the combustion chamber and will cause problems. 100LL >will also flow through your engine somewhat quicker than autogas. > >While on a XC from the Houston area to Sun-n-Fun 1993 I stopped at >Picayune, MS and was given some very good advise: Add Marvel Mystery Oil >to your fuel. Go by the label and add in addition to the normal oil/fuel ratio. > >I'm not sure why this works, but work it does. It prevents lead and carbon >from sticking anywhere inside the combustion chamber. I flew that Kitfox >for 200 hours and you could still see the very fine grooves machined into >the top of the piston after that time. I will always use MMO in any >2-stroke I own. > >No I have no interest in the company except as a customer. > >Alan > >Soon to do the King Kolbra thing. > >