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1. 05:52 AM - Re: Kolb Laser (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
2. 07:37 AM - Re: Kolb Laser (FlyColt45@aol.com)
3. 10:57 AM - Re: avgas (JIM HEFNER)
4. 11:04 AM - kolb bryce canyon (b young)
5. 12:35 PM - wow (jam'n)
6. 12:38 PM - Leading edge tape (N27SB@aol.com)
7. 03:59 PM - Re: Leading edge tape (Richard Pike)
8. 04:39 PM - Re: Leading edge tape (possums)
9. 04:40 PM - MV (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
10. 04:54 PM - Re: MV (Larry Bourne)
11. 05:42 PM - Re: Leading edge tape (Charlie England)
12. 05:53 PM - Re: Leading edge tape (N27SB@aol.com)
13. 06:02 PM - Re: Leading edge tape (N27SB@aol.com)
14. 09:00 PM - Re: Leading edge tape (Richard Pike)
15. 10:14 PM - heaters ()
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Yes. I saw the Lasers in a sale on E-Bay about a year ago. Seems like there
were two almost complete planes and one partial. They went real cheap. I
followed the sale till it ended and printed it so that I would have the
E-mail address if I wanted some day to make a offer on one of them. I think
I still have it in a file back in Michigan.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Kolb Laser
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski"
> <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
>
> Rusty & All,
> I heard all three were sold off to someone, & that the reason for
> not going into production was the cost return ratio was too high.
> ...Richard Swiderski
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: FlyColt45@aol.com
Talk about "Skunkworks"
I remember when Dennis was test flying the Lazer at Homer's one beautiful,
late afternoon. There were many late afternoon there - then. His (at that
time - little), daughter was playing as his wife snapping pictures as he did
low passes and all kinds of other maneuvers to show the plane. I also remember
the white Prince (?) prop, and recall how quiet and seemingly solid the
plane flew. Dennis can speak for himself, but I always thought that he was
influenced by a KR2 that he once had.
Oh, the good old days - at Homer's!!!
Jim Cote, Lantana, FL (PA)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "JIM HEFNER" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
Time: 09:42:18 PM PST US
From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: avgas
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
What 2-stroke oil do you use mixed at what ratio and how much Marvel
Mystery Oil do you use per gallon of gas?
jerb
Jerb, all,
FYI, I have been burning 91 octane (no additives), Redline 2-cycle racing
oil at 100:1 (6.8 oz / 5 gal) + 2 oz / 5gal MMO and using NGK BR8EV plugs
for over 2 years in my 447 on my FF and my temps are great and I have no
evidence of carboning, looking at the pistons through the plug holes and no
carboning or slap marks on the pistons viewed through the exhaust ports....
still looks new in there. I change the plugs every 75 hrs whether they need
it or not. Living in AZ where I fly year round and low humidity, this works
well. I would not recommend using synthetic 100:1 oils if living up North
or other high humidity areas, especially if the plane will not be flown
regularly, since there could be corrosion due to lower residual lube coating
vs castor based oils. This could work in these conditions if proper prep
were done before storing for long periods over winter.
Jim Hefner
Tucson, AZ
FF#022 447 - 185 hrs
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| Subject: | kolb bryce canyon |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
John Williamson pointed out to me the 2000 ft min was "requested" not
"mandatory". However, don't think we would be making many bownie
points with the Park Ser is we flew as we normally do.
john h
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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John H..
John W. is correct.... and my post was directly out of the sectional... and
it says "REQUESTED" . he and i had a couple of email exchanges over that
issue last summer / fall after my wife and i had visited the park... we stoped
by the airport and talked to a 'fling wing' pilot who told us he could take
us under the rim.... when i asked about the 2000 ft he ( and i kind of felt
that he answered a bit toung in cheek, as if he had been cought..) said that
he had a waiver. i suppose that we could visit with the park service and
see what they had to say over the matter..... i think they would try and
bluf and tell you no way hosea... but when showed the faa map and the term REQUESTED
maybe we could come up with a compromise with their blessings.
sometimes better to ask permission than forgiveness.
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "jam'n" <jghunter@nol.net>
http://www.micom.net/oops/
for all pilots
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| Subject: | Leading edge tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
To All:
I just decided to replace the s/s leading edge tape on the Ivo prop used on
the WetFly. The original tape was real thick and tough. The new stuff that Ivo
sent was very thin. Since the WetFly is on floats and takes a pretty good
beating I would like to stick with (sorry about the pun) the original thickness.
Ivo tells me that they can no longer get the thick tape and that if you can
find it elsewhere it will come loose. Does anyone know where to get the thick
stuff that works?
WetFly #007
Steve Boetto
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
It is made of Unobtanium, sorry
I have been using Powerfin's tape with good results. It is a thick black
plastic tape that seems to resist dings, and sticks down excellent.
It is only $2 a blade, so you might get enough for replacing it from time
to time. Phone # on their webpage, and they are not prejudiced to sell it
to Ivoprop owners.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 03:37 PM 1/21/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
>To All:
>I just decided to replace the s/s leading edge tape on the Ivo prop used on
>the WetFly. The original tape was real thick and tough. The new stuff that
>Ivo
>sent was very thin. Since the WetFly is on floats and takes a pretty good
>beating I would like to stick with (sorry about the pun) the original
>thickness.
>Ivo tells me that they can no longer get the thick tape and that if you can
>find it elsewhere it will come loose. Does anyone know where to get the
>thick
>stuff that works?
>
>WetFly #007
>Steve Boetto
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 03:37 PM 1/21/2005, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>
>To All:
>I just decided to replace the s/s leading edge tape on the Ivo prop used on
>the WetFly. The original tape was real thick and tough. The new stuff that
>Ivo
>sent was very thin. Since the WetFly is on floats and takes a pretty good
>beating I would like to stick with (sorry about the pun) the original
>thickness.
>Ivo tells me that they can no longer get the thick tape and that if you can
>find it elsewhere it will come loose. Does anyone know where to get the
>thick
>stuff that works?
>
>WetFly #007
>Steve Boetto
I would be a bit hesitant to use the thick SS tape at all.
Had it installed on a warp drive prop on my old Firestar in 1995.
After a few hours it had slipped down the tip of the blade a couple of inches.
Did not notice it until I heard this unusual "whirring sound" while running up
the engine one day. I was on the ground at the time.
Apparently it had slipped down while flying and actually cut into the top
of the boom tube. Strong Stuff - (stainless steel vs. alum).
No permanent damage, but felt like the guy who sawed off the tree limb
while sitting on the wrong end.
Use the plastic prop "tape". Seems to work Ok on small stuff and
stays on if applied right. I use wheel pants to keep the rocks and sand off
the prop.
Don't be the guy on the wrong end of the limb.
Would hate to cut my tail off while flying the plane.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Guys,
Just to keep everyone up to date, I've called the two people I was given as
Managers in the Tribal Council about eight (really) times today and was not able
to talk to anyone. Y'know, the "he'll be back in half an hour" and finally
"gone for the day" stuff. (The secretaries have really learned to cover well.)
It looks like I won't be able to talk to anyone until next week, and Jim
Heffner and I have contracted to bore a significant number of holes in the sky
next week. So, not sure when I'll be able to catch these guys, but will keep
trying.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Thanks for trying, Dave. Too bad you're getting the runaround......wonder
WHY you're getting the runaround ?? You and Jim have fun now,
y'hear ?? Lar. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: MV
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> Guys,
>
> Just to keep everyone up to date, I've called the two people I was
> given as Managers in the Tribal Council about eight (really) times today
> and was not able to talk to anyone. Y'know, the "he'll be back in half an
> hour" and finally "gone for the day" stuff. (The secretaries have really
> learned to cover well.) It looks like I won't be able to talk to anyone
> until next week, and Jim Heffner and I have contracted to bore a
> significant number of holes in the sky next week. So, not sure when I'll
> be able to catch these guys, but will keep trying.
>
> AzDave
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
You might try 3M leading edge tape. Google links:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=3m+leading+edge+tape&btnG=Google+Search
Richard Pike wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
>It is made of Unobtanium, sorry
>
>I have been using Powerfin's tape with good results. It is a thick black
>plastic tape that seems to resist dings, and sticks down excellent.
>It is only $2 a blade, so you might get enough for replacing it from time
>to time. Phone # on their webpage, and they are not prejudiced to sell it
>to Ivoprop owners.
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>At 03:37 PM 1/21/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
>>
>>To All:
>>I just decided to replace the s/s leading edge tape on the Ivo prop used on
>>the WetFly. The original tape was real thick and tough. The new stuff that
>>Ivo
>>sent was very thin. Since the WetFly is on floats and takes a pretty good
>>beating I would like to stick with (sorry about the pun) the original
>>thickness.
>>Ivo tells me that they can no longer get the thick tape and that if you can
>>find it elsewhere it will come loose. Does anyone know where to get the
>>thick
>>stuff that works?
>>
>>WetFly #007
>>Steve Boetto
>>
>>do not archive
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Thanks Richard,
I Wonder how it holdl up to water.
steve
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 1/21/2005 7:40:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
possums@mindspring.com writes:
> I would be a bit hesitant to use the thick SS tape at all.
> Had it installed on a warp drive prop on my old Firestar in 1995.
> After a few hours it had slipped down the tip of the blade a couple of
> inches.
> Did not notice it until I heard this unusual "whirring sound" while running
> up
> the engine one day. I
Thanks, actually I saw your answer in the archives from years ago. The thick
stuff that was on my Ivo was probably 5 years old and was fine until I decided
to run a bungee cord through it. I would like to find the same stuff that was
originally used. It measures at .003 thick.
Steve
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
I have about 85 feet of this tape still on a roll in my garage. It works
fine but does not stick down well. It does not like to make the acute angle
turn at the tip of the blade and will start to lift after about 20 hours or
three months, whichever comes first. It works great on the portion of the
blade where it does not have to turn a tight corner.
Wanna buy some? Make ya a good deal...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 07:41 PM 1/21/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
>You might try 3M leading edge tape. Google links:
>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=3m+leading+edge+tape&btnG=Google+Search
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <williamdgleason@bellsouth.net>
I would like to know if anyone has any information on a cockpit heater using
a Rotax 503. It would
be nice to have some supplimental heat in my Mark II.
Dale Gleason in SC
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