---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/26/05: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:34 AM - Re: Seats (PATRICK LADD) 2. 04:19 AM - Re: 2-stroke winter flying (ul15rhb@juno.com) 3. 05:21 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2-stroke winter flying (John Jung) 4. 05:55 AM - Re: Seats (Robert Mason) 5. 11:35 AM - Re: Seats (PATRICK LADD) 6. 12:29 PM - Rotax exhaust (flykolb) 7. 12:50 PM - Hanger space is hard to find (Tom O'Hara) 8. 01:53 PM - Re: Hanger space is hard to find (Richard Swiderwski) 9. 01:54 PM - Relief tube (ghaley@wt.net) 10. 02:06 PM - Re: Relief tube (Charlie England) 11. 02:19 PM - Re: Relief tube (Bob N.) 12. 02:42 PM - Re: Relief tube (kfackler) 13. 03:24 PM - Re: 2-stroke winter flying (Richard Swiderwski) 14. 03:37 PM - Re: Hanger space is hard to find (ron wehba) 15. 03:51 PM - Firefly clarifications (Bob Pongracz) 16. 04:37 PM - Humor (bryan green) 17. 05:04 PM - Re: Humor (ron wehba) 18. 05:30 PM - Re: heaters (Larry Bourne) 19. 05:38 PM - Re: Seats (Robert Mason) 20. 07:03 PM - Re: Hanger space is hard to find (Kolbdriver) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:37 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" I was hoping memory foam was something you could squirt in your ear and counteract old-timer's disease.>> Hi, I would buy shares in that. Pat do not archive -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:47 AM PST US From: "ul15rhb@juno.com" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2-stroke winter flying 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 3819049d9d --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ul15rhb@juno.com" Dale, I don't know about the Mikuni carb, but on the Bing the only thing I do is raise the jet needle one notch to richen it. This would be the 3rd notch down from the top (raises the needle). Do this only if the temps get below 40F. I used to change the main jet, but that richens it too much and is not necessary. Ralph Original Firestar 18 years flying it in Minnesota -- "Dale Sellers" wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" This is my first winter to fly a two stroke and I have some questions about mixture changes. 1. At what temp. do you richen your mixture? 2. Do you just raise the needle or do you have to change main jets too. 3. Is there a range of ambient temps. that require different misture changes? Such as the colder the temp., the richer the mixture? Somebody with experience straighten me out on this. I don't want to fry anything. My carb is a mikuni. Dale Sellers Georgia UltraStar Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:28 AM PST US From: John Jung Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2-stroke winter flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung Dale and Group, I used to fly winters in Wisconsin, and here is what I learned from that: I never changed jets, just raised the needle one notch. The reason for raising the needle was to prevent too high exhaust temps at cruise. Stock jetting was O.K. in other areas. Don't forget to add the difference between OAT and 70 to your readings, if you use gauges. If you are flying at 20 degrees and your EGT says 1160, your actual EGT is 1210. Most of my experience is from Bings but Mikuni's are very similar. John Jung > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" > > > This is my first winter to fly a two stroke and I > have some questions about mixture > changes. > 1. At what temp. do you richen your mixture? > 2. Do you just raise the needle or do you have to > change main jets too. __________________________________ http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seats From: Robert Mason --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Mason > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" > > I was hoping memory foam was something you could squirt > in your ear and counteract old-timer's disease.>> > > Hi, > I would buy shares in that. > > Pat > > do not archive > Pat, If your still working on your seats, I used medium foam with outdoor umbrella material. Can send you Pic's if interested. Robert Mark3 Xtra ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:44 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seats --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" I used medium foam with outdoor umbrella material. Can send you Pic's if interested.>> Hi, thanks very much. I shall not be at that stage for a while yet and I think we have sources here. Thank you again. Great list ain`t it? Cheers Pat -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:18 PM PST US From: "flykolb" Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax exhaust --> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" If anyone has an exhaust for a 532 for sale please email me off list. Jim Mark III Charlotte, NC ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:40 PM PST US From: "Tom O'Hara" Subject: Kolb-List: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" Thinking about purchasing a Mark III and have been trying to get hanger space-- no luck. Would like to see drawings/plans or photos if anyone is folding wings and pulling it home. Thanks Tom O'Hara ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:41 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderwski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" Tom, Are you on dial-up or DSL? I have a detailed walk around compilation Of pictures of my trailer. Its about 25 Meg. I could zip them & send them if you'd like. ...Richard Swiderski -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom O'Hara Subject: Kolb-List: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" Thinking about purchasing a Mark III and have been trying to get hanger space-- no luck. Would like to see drawings/plans or photos if anyone is folding wings and pulling it home. Thanks Tom O'Hara ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:56 PM PST US From: ghaley@wt.net Subject: Kolb-List: Relief tube --> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net Paul/others, You might try talking to your local glider club. I once owned a glider which had a relief tube. Basically it was a tube that ran out the bottom of the A/C. It had a fitting on one end(the business end) and about midway it had a T fitting with a hose that ran back into the cockpit which you would blow into. I never used it but my partner did and said worked great. Gary ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:06:02 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Relief tube --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England minimal/extremely low cost/labor solutions: large mouth bottle the liquid came from sick-sack ziplock bag ziplock bag 1/3 full of kitty litter doubled ziplock bags 1/3 full of kitty litter (for the big spender) (How many Kolbs have longer legs than your bladder?) ;-) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:19:49 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Relief tube --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." You Blow into the Tee on the relief tube? Sounds like a line from Bob Newhart and the tobacco pipe! Just run the tube to outside belly air, bent, pointing BACK. Neg air does the rest. Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:42:57 PM PST US From: "kfackler" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Relief tube --> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" > (How many Kolbs have longer legs than your bladder?) ;-) Mine does! I've got a three-hour "endurance" in the plane, but only a max of about 2 in me! -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:24:48 PM PST US From: "Richard Swiderwski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 2-stroke winter flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" Hey Dale, I used Mikunis a lot, raising the needle always worked for me. If you are already on the lean limit then you would need to rejet the mains and/or the needle. I personally jetted my 2-strokes for 1050 EGT full power & ll50 cruise. Ambient tempts must be compensated for (add & subtract the the difference from 72 degrees) but I usually left my calculator at home! Here in FL +/- 30 degrees is all we see & I never ran mine near 1275 at the top limit & the only limit on the bottom was if the engine would start to sputter. Actually, you can set it too rich (below 1000 EGT) where it will run ok cold but when you get up & flying & the engine warms up & you swoop down low to check out a cow skull head on the wrong side of the canal at River Ranch & you give it throttle to get back up to cruise speed & the engine just bogs down & so does your Kolb. There is no getting it back to life, unless you have the fortune to being able to land without crashing & drop the needle, stomp down the weeds & cactus & take off again before you get shot for trespassing. ...Richard Swiderski -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Sellers Subject: Kolb-List: 2-stroke winter flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" This is my first winter to fly a two stroke and I have some questions about mixture changes. 1. At what temp. do you richen your mixture? 2. Do you just raise the needle or do you have to change main jets too. 3. Is there a range of ambient temps. that require different misture changes? Such as the colder the temp., the richer the mixture? Somebody with experience straighten me out on this. I don't want to fry anything. My carb is a mikuni. Dale Sellers Georgia UltraStar ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:37:26 PM PST US From: "ron wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" hey richard can I have a copy too, hi speed here! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Swiderwski" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Hanger space is hard to find > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" > > > Tom, > Are you on dial-up or DSL? I have a detailed walk around > compilation > > Of pictures of my trailer. Its about 25 Meg. I could zip them & send them > if you'd like. ...Richard Swiderski > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom O'Hara > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Hanger space is hard to find > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" > > Thinking about purchasing a Mark III and have been trying to get hanger > space-- no luck. Would like to see drawings/plans or photos if anyone is > folding wings and pulling it home. > > Thanks > > Tom O'Hara > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:51:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly clarifications From: "Bob Pongracz" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob Pongracz" OK, so I should have been more specific. Here goes...How far along are you with building your Fly? Did you get the word about reducing the chord of the ailerons down from the original 15 inches...? What prop are you using? I'm not building from a kit, or plans - I've been able to acquire a fuselage from a factory demo plane new tail boom from the "old Kolb" (thanks Dennis) ,and the wings tailfeathers are from a wrecked FF. As soon as I can get all of the parts in one place, things can start going together. As far as the prop goes, I'm still deciding. I see a lot of three blade IVO's on factory planes, but a lot of people have been telling me that a two blade (ala powerfin) is a better way to go (less drag, inertial mass, etc). I'm not trying to start another prop thread here, but any input would be appreciated. Maybe I should be careful what I ask for! made to Homers place in Phonenixville, Pa summer of 2004. If you get it finished and flight tested before the next get together, perhaps you could makethe flight so we could all meet you.Fogelsville looks to be about 30 some miles from Phoenixville. Just the right distance for a Kolb UL flight. I got to visit Homer's place back when Dennis was still there. He gave me a ride in a MkIII - great fun. I'm hoping to get the FF flying in time to make the local fly-ins, including that one, this year. It would be great to meet some of the list members. Pongo (Bob P) Firefly 447 DO NOT ARCHIVE No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:32 PM PST US From: bryan green Subject: Kolb-List: Humor --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green Thought you guy might need a break from the diaper discussion. AIRCRAFT: CESSNA 172 PILOT: 30 YRS OLD, CFI, IR FATALITIES: None DAMAGE: Substantial DATE OF ACCIDENT: July 10 1982 WITNESS: Line attendant at *** airport Pilot came to airport at 9 AM 10 Jul 1982. Line boy reports padlock on his hangar door was so rusted he had to break it off with a 10# ball-peen hammer. Also had to inflate all 3 tires and scrap pigeon droppings off wind- screen. After several attempts to drain fuel strainers--pilot finally got what looked like fuel out of the wings sumps. Couldn't get the oil dipstick out of the engine but said it was okay last time he looked. Engine started okay -- ran rough for about 1/2 minute. Then died. Then battery would not turn prop. Used battery cart and although starter was smoking real good, it finally started and the prop wash blew the smoke away. Line boy offered to fuel airplane up but pilot said he was late for an appointment at a nearby airport. Said it wasn't far. Taxied about 1/2 way out to active runway and the engine stopped. Pushed it back to the fuel pumps and bought 3 gallons for the left wing tank. Started it again. This time, he was almost out to the runway when it quit again. Put a little rock under nose wheel; hand propped it; and was seen still trying to climb in the airplane as it went across the runway. Finally got in it; blew out the right tire trying to stop before the cement plant. When he taxied back in to have the tire changed, he also had the line boy hit the right wing with 3 gallons of gas. Witness, who saw the take-off, said the aircraft lined up and took off to the north. Takeoff looked fairly normal -- nose came up about 300 ft down the runway. At midfield nose came down. Engine coughed twice -- then cut power and applied the brakes which made both doors fly open and a big fat brown book fell out on the runway and released probably a million little white pages with diagrams on them. Looked like sort of a snow storm. After several real loud runups at the end, he turned her around and took off in the other direction going south into the wind. Only this time he horsed her off at the end and pulled her up real steep like one of them jet fighter planes -- to about 300 ft -- then the engine quit! Did a sort of a slow turn back toward the airport -- kinda like that Art School guy -- and about 30 ft off the McDonald's cafe she started roaring again. He did sort of a high speed pass down the runway; put the flaps down to full and that sucker went up like he was going to do an Immelman! The engine quit again and he turned right and I thought he was coming right through the front window of the F.B.O.; but he pulled her up -- went through the TV antenna and the little rooster with the NSE&W things -- over the building then bounced the main wheels off the roof of 3 different cars in the lot -- a Porsche, a Mercedes and Dr. Brown's new El Dorado. When he bounced off the El Dorado the engine roared to life and he got her flying. Came around toward the runway and set her down -- once on the overrun, once on the runway and once in the grass beside the runway. He taxied into the ramp -- shut her down -- and ordered 3 more gallons of gas. Said it was for safety's sake. Then he asked where the phone booth was as he had to call his student and tell him he was going to be a little bit late. DO NOT ARCHIVE Bryan Green Elgin SC ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:10 PM PST US From: "ron wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Humor --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" GREAT reading,thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "bryan green" Subject: Kolb-List: Humor > --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green > > Thought you guy might need a break from the diaper discussion. > > AIRCRAFT: CESSNA 172 > PILOT: 30 YRS OLD, CFI, IR > FATALITIES: None > DAMAGE: Substantial > DATE OF ACCIDENT: July 10 1982 > > WITNESS: Line attendant at *** airport > > Pilot came to airport at 9 AM 10 Jul 1982. Line boy reports padlock > on his hangar door was so rusted he had to break it off with a 10# > ball-peen hammer. > Also had to inflate all 3 tires and scrap pigeon droppings off wind- > screen. After several attempts to drain fuel strainers--pilot > finally got what looked like fuel out of the wings sumps. Couldn't > get the oil dipstick out of the engine but said it was okay last > time he looked. > > Engine started okay -- ran rough for about 1/2 minute. Then died. > Then battery would not turn prop. Used battery cart and although > starter was smoking real good, it finally started and the prop wash > blew the smoke away. > > Line boy offered to fuel airplane up but pilot said he was late for > an appointment at a nearby airport. Said it wasn't far. Taxied about > 1/2 way out to active runway and the engine stopped. Pushed it back > to the fuel pumps and bought 3 gallons for the left wing tank. > Started it again. This time, he was almost out to the runway when it > quit again. Put a little rock under nose wheel; hand propped it; and > was seen still trying to climb in the airplane as it went across the > runway. Finally got in it; blew out the right tire trying to stop > before the cement plant. > > When he taxied back in to have the tire changed, he also had the > line boy hit the right wing with 3 gallons of gas. Witness, who saw > the take-off, said the aircraft lined up and took off to the north. > Takeoff looked fairly normal -- nose came up about 300 ft down the > runway. At midfield nose came down. Engine coughed twice -- then cut > power and applied the brakes which made both doors fly open and a > big fat brown book fell out on the runway and released probably a > million little white pages with diagrams on them. Looked like sort > of a snow storm. > > After several real loud runups at the end, he turned her around and > took off in the other direction going south into the wind. Only this > time he horsed her off at the end and pulled her up real steep like > one of them jet fighter planes -- to about 300 ft -- then the engine > quit! > > Did a sort of a slow turn back toward the airport -- kinda like that > Art School guy -- and about 30 ft off the McDonald's cafe she > started roaring again. He did sort of a high speed pass down the > runway; put the flaps down to full and that sucker went up like he > was going to do an Immelman! > > The engine quit again and he turned right and I thought he was > coming right through the front window of the F.B.O.; but he pulled > her up -- went through the TV antenna and the little rooster with > the NSE&W things -- over the building then bounced the main wheels > off the roof of 3 different cars in the lot -- a Porsche, a Mercedes > and Dr. Brown's new El Dorado. > > When he bounced off the El Dorado the engine roared to life and he > got her flying. Came around toward the runway and set her down -- > once on the overrun, once on the runway and once in the grass beside > the runway. He taxied into the ramp -- shut her down -- and ordered > 3 more gallons of gas. Said it was for safety's sake. > > Then he asked where the phone booth was as he had to call his > student and tell him he was going to be a little bit late. > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Bryan Green Elgin SC > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:30:50 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: heaters --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Those same sub-aqua blokes know all about the bladder heat exchanger. It's the short hose inside the wet suit. :-) (real short in that cold water) Ex scuba instructor Lar. Do not Archive. Please. :-) Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: heaters > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" > > . Keeps my core temp roasty toasty >> and my extremities stay warm without getting sacrificed. > > Now if we could figure out a heat exchanger for our bladders. And a place > to > mount it.......;o) > > Do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seats From: Robert Mason --> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Mason > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" > > I used medium foam with outdoor > umbrella material. Can send you Pic's if interested.>> > > Hi, thanks very much. I shall not be at that stage for a while yet and I > think we have sources here. > Thank you again. > Great list ain`t it? > > Cheers > > Pat > I'm pretty far along in the process, any questions let me know. I have already gotten through most of the problems. I will be starting on the gap seal soon, which looks like the last hurdle "famous last words"...Plans don't seem to show a lot! Robert Do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:29 PM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" Tom, I fold and trailer my Mark III each time I fly. Takes about 20 minutes to unload and have the plane ready to preflight. About the same to fold, load, and secure for the trip home. Steven Green > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" > > Thinking about purchasing a Mark III and have been trying to get hanger space-- no luck. Would like to see drawings/plans or photos if anyone is folding wings and pulling it home. > > Thanks > > Tom O'Hara > >