---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/28/05: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:27 AM - Fw: John Hauck A thought on your book (Airgriff2@aol.com) 2. 05:16 AM - Re: Hanger space is hard to find (Pollus) 3. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: Hanger space is hard to find (Gary r. voigt) 4. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Hanger space is hard to find (HShack@aol.com) 5. 07:21 AM - Re: Re: Hanger space is hard to find (Dave & Eve Pelletier) 6. 07:27 AM - A good blade is hard to find (herbgh@juno.com) 7. 08:23 AM - goatglider (robert bean) 8. 10:08 AM - Re: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! (Steve Garvelink) 9. 10:10 AM - OT - Neat pic... (Jeremy Casey) 10. 10:56 AM - Accident photo... (Jeremy Casey) 11. 11:15 AM - Re: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! (Cory Emberson) 12. 11:29 AM - Re: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! (Bob N.) 13. 12:48 PM - Re: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! (John Hauck) 14. 01:28 PM - Re: Re: Hanger space is hard to find (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd) 15. 02:29 PM - cold (russ kinne) 16. 04:24 PM - Re: John Hauck (jerb) 17. 04:44 PM - Re: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! (Cory Emberson) 18. 07:17 PM - Folding Wings (John Williamson) 19. 07:36 PM - Re: Folding Wings (Bob N.) 20. 08:14 PM - Re: Folding Wings (David M. Lehman) 21. 08:21 PM - Re: Folding Wings (Edward Chmielewski) 22. 08:42 PM - Re: Folding Wings (John Hauck) 23. 09:43 PM - Re: Folding Wings (woody) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:36 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: John Hauck A thought on your book --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck A thought on your book Good morning John. I agree with many that if somehow your flying experiences were to be availiable in a book , it would be GREAT reading. I also can't imagine how much time and work it would involve. After reading the post to the list, I asked myself, I wonder if there is someway you could record your flying life by talking on tape and maybe there is a service that would put it down in writing and then it could be edited with photos. That would be alot easier for you than typing a million letters? I not sure if there is anything like that but it would be nice if there was. Possibly Kolb, Warp, Garmin, Icom, Jim & Dondi , etc. could chip in on the cost. I bet even a fund raiser on the list could work to help you out. Come on John, I know you're not flying on those 20* days down there. Anyway, you can give it some thought. Fly Safe Bob Griffin Good morning John. I agree with many that if somehow your flying experiences were to be availiable in a=20book , it would be GREAT reading. I also can't imagine how much time and work it would involve. After reading the post to the list, I asked=20myself, I wonder if there is someway you could record your flying life by talking on tape and maybe there is a service that would put it down in writing and then it could be edited with photos. That would be alot easier for you than typing a million letters? I not sure if there is anything like that but it would be nice if there was. Possibly Kolb, Warp, Garmin, Icom, Jim Dondi , etc. could chip in on the cost. I bet even a fund raiser on the list could work to help you out. Come on John, I know you're not flying on those 20* days down there. Anyway, you can give it some thought. Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:26 AM PST US From: Pollus Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: Pollus True, but can you fold it all by yourself of do you need the help of an innocent bystander? Pollus Op 27-jan-05 om 22:15 heeft Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL het volgende geschreven: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > > [ > > So, for being willing to fold/unfold my wings each time I fly, I get to > store my plane in a hangar at the airport and pay one-third the cost > of a > normal hangar rate. A reasonable tradeoff, in my opinion. > > Dennis Kirby > s/n 300 (old Kolb) > New Mexico > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:34 AM PST US From: "Gary r. voigt" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gary r. voigt" I do not see why one could not fold it by him/her self...i thought this is why holmer came up with this design is not only to save space but one could buy and fly by him/her self. i have the kolb kxp model and i fold and unfold it everytime i fly. just have to have the right technique and tools. maybe the mark111 are harder. Gary..........still selling my kolb if anyone is interested...i have dropped the price... Excelsior, mn. 952-474-3540 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pollus" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Pollus > > True, but can you fold it all by yourself of do you need the help of an > innocent bystander? > > Pollus > > > Op 27-jan-05 om 22:15 heeft Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL het volgende > geschreven: > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL > > > > [ > > > > So, for being willing to fold/unfold my wings each time I fly, I get to > > store my plane in a hangar at the airport and pay one-third the cost > > of a > > normal hangar rate. A reasonable tradeoff, in my opinion. > > > > Dennis Kirby > > s/n 300 (old Kolb) > > New Mexico > > do not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:54 AM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 1/28/2005 8:17:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, pollus@fornerod.nl writes: True, but can you fold it all by yourself of do you need the help of an innocent bystander? Pollus Pollus, there is a fellow at our airport that folds his Firestar II all by himself all the time. It takes him only 6 minutes. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:00 AM PST US From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" My MkIII lives in a trailer and I fold/unfold it by myself all the time. The wings are no problem if you have a stand adjusted for the right height. My biggest problem is hooking up the horiz. stab. tail wires. I usually have to put a couple of tool boxes on the stabilizers to pull them down to the right tension. I plan to solve that problem with struts like the ailerons have. That's how my Firestar was set up and it worked jess fine thank ewe. By the way, John Jung, couldja e-mail me with your correct address off list. Apparently the one I have is wrong 'cuz the stuff I sent you came back. AzDave Back from great flying with Jim Hefner. Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pollus" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Pollus > > True, but can you fold it all by yourself of do you need the help of an > innocent bystander? > > Pollus ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:51 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: A good blade is hard to find From: herbgh@juno.com --> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com Group Friday and I need one IVO blade for my Firefly. I am about to put an eye out walking around the two blade prop on my folded Firefly in the garage.( I know I should put some foam or socks on them!) I am also looking for three GSc blades for a pusher /rotax combo. 60 inches or better. I have the hub. Herb ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:16 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: goatglider --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Group, someone mentioned the goat on the list. -I went and investigated it and fell in love. Does anyone have one in the works or flying? -BB do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:29 AM PST US From: "Steve Garvelink" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" I am waiting for the movie!!!!!! You would really do the sport a tremendous service by writing about your experience... SRGLINK -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: John Hauck A thought on your book --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck A thought on your book Good morning John. I agree with many that if somehow your flying experiences were to be availiable in a book , it would be GREAT reading. I also can't imagine how much time and work it would involve. After reading the post to the list, I asked myself, I wonder if there is someway you could record your flying life by talking on tape and maybe there is a service that would put it down in writing and then it could be edited with photos. That would be alot easier for you than typing a million letters? I not sure if there is anything like that but it would be nice if there was. Possibly Kolb, Warp, Garmin, Icom, Jim & Dondi , etc. could chip in on the cost. I bet even a fund raiser on the list could work to help you out. Come on John, I know you're not flying on those 20* days down there. Anyway, you can give it some thought. Fly Safe Bob Griffin Good morning John. I agree with many that if somehow your flying experiences were to be availiable in a=20book , it would be GREAT reading. I also can't imagine how much time and work it would involve. After reading the post to the list, I asked=20myself, I wonder if there is someway you could record your flying life by talking on tape and maybe there is a service that would put it down in writing and then it could be edited with photos. That would be alot easier for you than typing a million letters? I not sure if there is anything like that but it would be nice if there was. Possibly Kolb, Warp, Garmin, Icom, Jim Dondi , etc. could chip in on the cost. I bet even a fund raiser on the list could work to help you out. Come on John, I know you're not flying on those 20* days down there. Anyway, you can give it some thought. Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:42 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Casey" Subject: Kolb-List: OT - Neat pic... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" Thought ultralight pilots would get the irony of this.LET'S GO FLY! http://w1.rob.com/pix/oops/wyoming_windsock_acer Jeremy Casey KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc. jeremy@kilocharlie.us ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:56:37 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Casey" Subject: Kolb-List: Accident photo... --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" Was killing time looking at an aviation photo site and run across this pic. Anyone know who/what/when/where? http://w1.rob.com/pix/oops/ultralight Jeremy Casey KiloCharlie Drafting, Inc. jeremy@kilocharlie.us ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:15:25 AM PST US From: "Cory Emberson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" I've been watching this thread with great interest! For someone who doesn't like to type 50,000 words, dictating your stories is a great way to go. And for a personal story like this, John's "voice" would come through very clearly. After the dictation is done, it can be easily transcribed into a working draft, and edited and polished from there. A word of caution from experience - don't try to transcribe that much tape with just a tape recorder. Using a transcriptionist who has the right equipment - headphone, start/stop/rewind pedal, etc. - is the only way to go. It's like changing your own oil if you don't have the right tools - you can, but why? best... -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Garvelink Subject: RE: Kolb-List: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" I am waiting for the movie!!!!!! You would really do the sport a tremendous service by writing about your experience... SRGLINK -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: John Hauck A thought on your book --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck A thought on your book Good morning John. I agree with many that if somehow your flying experiences were to be availiable in a book , it would be GREAT reading. I also can't imagine how much time and work it would involve. After reading the post to the list, I asked myself, I wonder if there is someway you could record your flying life by talking on tape and maybe there is a service that would put it down in writing and then it could be edited with photos. That would be alot easier for you than typing a million letters? I not sure if there is anything like that but it would be nice if there was. Possibly Kolb, Warp, Garmin, Icom, Jim & Dondi , etc. could chip in on the cost. I bet even a fund raiser on the list could work to help you out. Come on John, I know you're not flying on those 20* days down there. Anyway, you can give it some thought. Fly Safe Bob Griffin Good morning John. I agree with many that if somehow your flying experiences were to be availiable in a=20book , it would be GREAT reading. I also can't imagine how much time and work it would involve. After reading the post to the list, I asked=20myself, I wonder if there is someway you could record your flying life by talking on tape and maybe there is a service that would put it down in writing and then it could be edited with photos. That would be alot easier for you than typing a million letters? I not sure if there is anything like that but it would be nice if there was. Possibly Kolb, Warp, Garmin, Icom, Jim Dondi , etc. could chip in on the cost. I bet even a fund raiser on the list could work to help you out. Come on John, I know you're not flying on those 20* days down there. Anyway, you can give it some thought. Fly Safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:05 AM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." I'll edit fer free. Bob N. http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:48:54 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | | Bob N. Hi Bob/Gang: Thanks, buddy! I am sure Mz Emberson is only trying to help............. I believe I have already shared with the List, I have no intentions of writing a book any time soon. There are too many other things I need to do before I take on another project. Weather turned from beautiful Spring to Arctic weather over night. Yesterday worked outside in a t-shirt. Today, I am cabin bound. Looks like inside weather until late next week. Shoot! I have airplane maintenance and flying "practice" to do. Guess it'll have to wait. Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:28:27 PM PST US From: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" Pollus, I keep My Xtra folded and I do it alone with no tools or stands and it only takes me 10 mins. Mike Xtra/Jab2200 G-CDFA ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find > --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com > > In a message dated 1/28/2005 8:17:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, > pollus@fornerod.nl writes: > True, but can you fold it all by yourself of do you need the help of an > innocent bystander? > > Pollus > > Pollus, there is a fellow at our airport that folds his Firestar II all by > himself all the time. It takes him only 6 minutes. > > Howard Shackleford > FS II > SC > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:20 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Kolb-List: cold --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne Hello List Pardon a post by a not-yet-Kolber but I may be able to contribute something useful on the =93cold=94 subject. I survived -63 on one assignment, -55 on another, and have spent a bunch of time in 0 to -20. Curiously, my bod can=92t tell the difference between about -15 and -50. My nerve-sensors are probably SO shocked/insulted/amazed that I=92d even do this, that they shut down altogether. Under extreme cold the human body will sacrifice fingers, toes, then even arms & legs, to keep the core warm & alive -- this is mostly theoretical, since we=92re more concerned with moderate temperatures. BUT that=92s why your feet & hands get cold first. You lose a lot of heat through your head -- and an old saying is =93If your feet are cold, put on a hat=94 -- that=92s good advice, even for young pilots who still have their hair! Otherwise, the well-known technique of layering is best, with clothes that can open at the neck -- if you get the least bit overheated, you need to let out some of your enclosed warm-air-bubble by opening the neck zipper. You must NOT get even a little sweaty, or you=92ll be even colder. When your bod is well insulated, even a little heat makes a big difference. Try a small handwarmer tucked into your belt or in a pocket. On the feet, use warm but not tight boots, and on the hands, mittens give the most warmth but of course gloves the most flexibility. Wear both in real cold. One thing most people overlook is that a hard seat can hamper blood flow to the legs and make them feel cold. Check to see if the edge of your seat is pressing hard on the back of your thighs. Another overlooked thing is silk long-johns (don=92t laugh!) Sporting-goods stores sell these for hunters & fishermen. They don=92t weigh anything & are surprisingly warm. Check places that sell camping, climbing and hiking gear. There=92s some really great stuff out there -- but most of it is pretty expensive. They may say =93stay cool=94, but staying warm feels better. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:24:46 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb Gee John, You need to team up with Bob N. (our gray whatever pen name he goes by). He could interview you, take notes and record it and write it. Many books today are done this way. jerb At 07:30 PM 1/27/05 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > Hi Bill: > >Yes, I have considered writing, but haven't found the time or the >gumption to get started. > >Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate that. > >Bill, hard to believe it has been nearly 11 years since I made that >1994 flight. Time sure is flying. > >As far as I know, that flight has never been duplicated, nor has it >ever been out done. I have a feeling, no one will ever out do that >one. > >Thanks for the note, > >john h > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:44 PM PST US From: "Cory Emberson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: John Hauck waiting for the movie !!!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" Hi John and all... Well, if I can keep just one Kolber from wasting a frustrating afternoon at the word processor while rewinding their Walkman by hand, well, it would be worth it. :-) Of course, flying comes first! best, Cory Hi Bob/Gang: Thanks, buddy! I am sure Mz Emberson is only trying to help............. I believe I have already shared with the List, I have no intentions of writing a book any time soon. There are too many other things I need to do before I take on another project. Weather turned from beautiful Spring to Arctic weather over night. Yesterday worked outside in a t-shirt. Today, I am cabin bound. Looks like inside weather until late next week. Shoot! I have airplane maintenance and flying "practice" to do. Guess it'll have to wait. Take care, john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:49 PM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: Folding Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Fellow Listers, A question has been submitted to me and I have no idea what the answer is, please help. What is the first model of Kolb that had folding wings and what year did it happen in? Please, no quessing, just facts! John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912UL, 708 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:57 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Folding Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." Firestar I &II....1990 ? Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:47 PM PST US From: "David M. Lehman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Folding Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David M. Lehman" I posed that question to the factory and they said all Kolbs, except the Sport 600, had folding wings... --- John Williamson wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > > Fellow Listers, > > A question has been submitted to me and I have no > idea what the answer is, > please help. > > What is the first model of Kolb that had folding > wings and what year did it > happen in? > > Please, no quessing, just facts! > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912UL, 708 hours > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot > > do not archive > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > ===== do not archive __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:17 PM PST US From: "Edward Chmielewski" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Folding Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" Hi John, My MkII is a 1988, it folds. Must be something earlier? Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: Folding Wings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > Fellow Listers, > > A question has been submitted to me and I have no idea what the answer is, > please help. > > What is the first model of Kolb that had folding wings and what year did it > happen in? > > Please, no quessing, just facts! > > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912UL, 708 hours > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot > > do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:13 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Folding Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > My MkII is a 1988, it folds. Must be something earlier? > > Ed in JXN Hi All: My 1984 Ultrastar had folding wings, as all US's had. That leaves the Flyer, and I do not know if the wings folded on it or not. john h ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:08 PM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Folding Wings --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" Ultrastar was the first to have the folding wings. The originals folded at the main spar but were to high for most garages and the design was changed to put the fold point at the rear spar. I would assume it to be about 1982. My Flyer (1980) had detachable wings. The folding wings were a marvel at the time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Folding Wings > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > > > My MkII is a 1988, it folds. Must be something earlier? > > > > Ed in JXN > > Hi All: > > My 1984 Ultrastar had folding wings, as all US's had. That leaves the > Flyer, and I do not know if the wings folded on it or not. > > john h > >