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1. 03:14 AM - Re: John Hauck (PATRICK LADD)
2. 06:38 AM - Re: 1985 Kolb Firestar (Steve Garvelink)
3. 11:10 AM - Re: Hanger space is hard to find (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
4. 12:23 PM - FS Powerfin Prop (Giovanni Day)
5. 12:29 PM - Re: Re: Hanger space is hard to find (bryan green)
6. 01:18 PM - Re: Hanger space is hard to find (pollus)
7. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: Hanger space is hard to find (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
8. 02:02 PM - Wing fold "pins" (archived) (Mike Pierzina)
9. 02:45 PM - Re: AvGas & Rotax 503 (WillUribe@aol.com)
10. 02:50 PM - Re: 1985 Kolb Firestar (Mike Marsh)
11. 03:11 PM - Re: AvGas & Rotax 503 (ron wehba)
12. 03:23 PM - Re: Wing fold "pins" (archived) (woody)
13. 05:11 PM - Re: AvGas & Rotax 503/Landing Off Site (John Hauck)
14. 05:38 PM - Re: 1985 Kolb Firestar (kfackler)
15. 08:45 PM - Re: 1985 Kolb Firestar (Jerry Curtin)
16. 08:46 PM - Re: 1985 Kolb Firestar (Jerry Curtin)
17. 10:15 PM - Re: AvGas & Rotax 503 (WillUribe@aol.com)
18. 10:52 PM - Amphibious Floats (kevin-jones)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
article about the same flight in the EAA Experiementer Magazine. Dana
Labhart had the files. Possibly we could get it together and get it
uploaded on another site.>>
That sounds good.
Pat
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| Subject: | 1985 Kolb Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
I thought that this was only the plight of the ultrastar. I thought
they supported the firestar!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Marsh
Subject: Kolb-List: 1985 Kolb Firestar
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
I have purchased a Kolb firestar and it is in a lot of
pieces. I have part of the original manual and some
bills of material I got from Kolb Aircraft. They say
they can not supply me with a set of drawings for
reassembly since this model was not part of the
purchase they made from the original owner of Kolb
Aircraft. Does anyone have a set they can copy for me?
I would be glad to pay for them.
Thanks Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Hanger space is hard to find |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< True, but can you fold it all by yourself of do you need the help of an
innocent bystander? Pollus >>
Pollus, and Kolb Gang -
As you've seen by a few responses, several folks fold up their Kolbs after
every flight all by themselves. This was on of the key design aspects that
convinced me on choosing a Kolb.
Takes me about 15 minutes to set up.
One thing I did differently from the plans was the wing stow method.
Instead of the rod-thru-the-tailboom method to secure folded wings, I copied
what the glider guys do at my airfield and made a wheeled tail dolly with
padded wing saddles. Makes it very easy to fold wings - no need to crawl
underneath or contort the body in unnatural ways to get a wing pin
installed.
Tailwheel is off the ground when folded up - so the dolly doubles as a
proper tailboom support for transporting. Easy to manuver the plane around
on the ground.
I'll post a picture of my tail dolly to Photoshare sometime soon ...
Dennis Kirby
MArk-III, Verner, Powerfin
New Mexico
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| Subject: | FS Powerfin Prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Giovanni Day" <gde01@bellsouth.net>
Fellow Kolbers,
I have FS a slightly use 3 blade 70" powerfin 912 pusher that caught
something on one of the blades. New blades are $150. It has two perfect
blades and a perfect hub. $350 OBO. E-mail off list please
Thanks,
Giovanni Day
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| Subject: | Re: Hanger space is hard to find |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
As Dennis said Pollus lots of us bought Kolbs because of the easy fold
wings. I keep my Firestar in an enclosed trailer and fold and unfold
each time I fly. If you don't want to crawl around on the ground to
remove pins from wing support tube drill the holes vertically instead of
horizontally and use a stick of soft brazing wire inserted from the top
behind the wing for a pin (no crawling needed ). This set up works well
for me.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 377 BRS 19LBG
Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
>
><< True, but can you fold it all by yourself of do you need the help of an
>innocent bystander? Pollus >>
>
>Pollus, and Kolb Gang -
>
>One thing I did differently from the plans was the wing stow method.
>Instead of the rod-thru-the-tailboom method to secure folded wings, I copied
>what the glider guys do at my airfield and made a wheeled tail dolly with
>padded wing saddles. Makes it very easy to fold wings - no need to crawl
>underneath or contort the body in unnatural ways to get a wing pin
>installed.
>
>Dennis Kirby
>MArk-III, Verner, Powerfin
>New Mexico
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hanger space is hard to find |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
Hi guys!
What an overwhelming support. Thanks!
Blame myself, for being the ONLY Kolber around not knowing how to
singlehandedly get them wings folded. Mike from Silfer Fern gave me a
step-by-step so all I have to do is practice. Believe me, I'll get
there!
Pollus
MK3
Op 31-jan-05 om 21:22 heeft bryan green het volgende geschreven:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> As Dennis said Pollus lots of us bought Kolbs because of the easy fold
> wings. I keep my Firestar in an enclosed trailer and fold and unfold
> each time I fly. If you don't want to crawl around on the ground to
> remove pins from wing support tube drill the holes vertically instead
> of
> horizontally and use a stick of soft brazing wire inserted from the top
> behind the wing for a pin (no crawling needed ). This set up works well
> for me.
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
> Firestar 377 BRS 19LBG
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| Subject: | Re: Hanger space is hard to find |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Mine are drilled horizontally, but I've mounted the pins on a 3' (?) dowell
and insert them from the back. No problem.
AzDave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan green" <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hanger space is hard to find
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> As Dennis said Pollus lots of us bought Kolbs because of the easy fold
> wings. I keep my Firestar in an enclosed trailer and fold and unfold
> each time I fly. If you don't want to crawl around on the ground to
> remove pins from wing support tube drill the holes vertically instead of
> horizontally and use a stick of soft brazing wire inserted from the top
> behind the wing for a pin (no crawling needed ). This set up works well
> for me.
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
> Firestar 377 BRS 19LBG
>
> Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL wrote:
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL
>><Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>>
>>
>><< True, but can you fold it all by yourself of do you need the help of an
>>innocent bystander? Pollus >>
>>
>>Pollus, and Kolb Gang -
>>
>>One thing I did differently from the plans was the wing stow method.
>>Instead of the rod-thru-the-tailboom method to secure folded wings, I
>>copied
>>what the glider guys do at my airfield and made a wheeled tail dolly with
>>padded wing saddles. Makes it very easy to fold wings - no need to crawl
>>underneath or contort the body in unnatural ways to get a wing pin
>>installed.
>>
>>Dennis Kirby
>>MArk-III, Verner, Powerfin
>>New Mexico
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing fold "pins" (archived) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Hey Guys,
If you look in Matt's photo share archives....the date April 24,2004 ,
subject "wing fold pins"
I had one together and all the pieces for the other one separate so you
could see how it was made...They work great!
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap
and build your wings on the way down...
Gotta Fly...
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| Subject: | Re: AvGas & Rotax 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/fuel01.jpg
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Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Dow" <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: AvGas & Rotax 503
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Clifford Dow <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello
> I'm new to Ultralights - can you run a Rotax 503 with regular avgas (mixed
with 2 cycle oil of course)?
> if not - how do you all take a cross country trip?=A0 do you stop at local
airports and run into town and get autofuel and fill up that way?
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| Subject: | 1985 Kolb Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
They can support some parts and some info but not
everything. They bought the business from previous
Kolb owner after my airplane was built and do not have
access to plans or drawings.
Mike
--- Steve Garvelink <link@cdc.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink"
> <link@cdc.net>
>
> I thought that this was only the plight of the
> ultrastar. I thought
> they supported the firestar!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike Marsh
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: 1985 Kolb Firestar
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh
> <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
>
> I have purchased a Kolb firestar and it is in a lot
> of
> pieces. I have part of the original manual and some
> bills of material I got from Kolb Aircraft. They say
> they can not supply me with a set of drawings for
> reassembly since this model was not part of the
> purchase they made from the original owner of Kolb
> Aircraft. Does anyone have a set they can copy for
> me?
> I would be glad to pay for them.
>
> Thanks Mike
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
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>
>
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: AvGas & Rotax 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
ok will where did you 2 land in da bar ditch??
----- Original Message -----
From: <WillUribe@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: AvGas & Rotax 503
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/fuel01.jpg
>
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/fuel02.jpg
>
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/fuel03.jpg
>
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/fuel04.jpg
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> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/fuel05.jpg
>
> Will Uribe
> El Paso, TX
> FireStar II N4GU
> C-172 N2506U
> http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
> Do not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Dow" <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: AvGas & Rotax 503
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Clifford Dow <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Hello
>> I'm new to Ultralights - can you run a Rotax 503 with regular avgas
>> (mixed
> with 2 cycle oil of course)?
>> if not - how do you all take a cross country trip?=A0 do you stop at
>> local
> airports and run into town and get autofuel and fill up that way?
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing fold "pins" (archived) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" <duesouth@govital.net>
>> I had one together and all the pieces for the other one separate
so you could see how it was made...They work great!
>
"THEY"? All you need is one long one. Put the first pin in before you
fold the second wing.
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| Subject: | Re: AvGas & Rotax 503/Landing Off Site |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|
| Will Uribe
Hi Wil/Gang:
Good explanation.
I used to land at a Chevron Station on I-10 near Marianna, FL, back in
the Ultrastar and Firestar days. Remember pushing the airplane up to
the pump nearest a small field I landed in. A gentleman drove up on
the other side of the pump while I was filling up. He never would
look over at me and the airplane. Absolutely did everything in his
power not to look at us, just on the other side of the pump. Probably
thought he was hallucinating.
After a very close call taking off from this service station in the
Firestar, I decided then and there that to save a few cents on fuel
was not worth the risk of hurting myself, my airplane, and any
innocent by stander. I still land on a road occassionally, this
summer in Yukon Territory and up in the Arctic, but do not readily do
it down here in the lower 48. Just ain't worth the risk involved.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: 1985 Kolb Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> I thought that this was only the plight of the ultrastar. I thought
> they supported the firestar!
They don't support the Mark II, dang 'em!
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: 1985 Kolb Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net>
Hi Mike, I have an older model Firestar also. Have to pick it up yet. When I
do, I'll be glad to help you out any way possible. Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Marsh" <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 1985 Kolb Firestar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
>
> They can support some parts and some info but not
> everything. They bought the business from previous
> Kolb owner after my airplane was built and do not have
> access to plans or drawings.
> Mike
>
> --- Steve Garvelink <link@cdc.net> wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink"
> > <link@cdc.net>
> >
> > I thought that this was only the plight of the
> > ultrastar. I thought
> > they supported the firestar!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Marsh
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kolb-List: 1985 Kolb Firestar
> >
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh
> > <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
> >
> > I have purchased a Kolb firestar and it is in a lot
> > of
> > pieces. I have part of the original manual and some
> > bills of material I got from Kolb Aircraft. They say
> > they can not supply me with a set of drawings for
> > reassembly since this model was not part of the
> > purchase they made from the original owner of Kolb
> > Aircraft. Does anyone have a set they can copy for
> > me?
> > I would be glad to pay for them.
> >
> > Thanks Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
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> > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>
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| Subject: | Re: 1985 Kolb Firestar |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net>
Hey Mike, where did you pick up your firestar?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Marsh" <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 1985 Kolb Firestar
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
>
> They can support some parts and some info but not
> everything. They bought the business from previous
> Kolb owner after my airplane was built and do not have
> access to plans or drawings.
> Mike
>
> --- Steve Garvelink <link@cdc.net> wrote:
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink"
> > <link@cdc.net>
> >
> > I thought that this was only the plight of the
> > ultrastar. I thought
> > they supported the firestar!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Marsh
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kolb-List: 1985 Kolb Firestar
> >
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh
> > <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
> >
> > I have purchased a Kolb firestar and it is in a lot
> > of
> > pieces. I have part of the original manual and some
> > bills of material I got from Kolb Aircraft. They say
> > they can not supply me with a set of drawings for
> > reassembly since this model was not part of the
> > purchase they made from the original owner of Kolb
> > Aircraft. Does anyone have a set they can copy for
> > me?
> > I would be glad to pay for them.
> >
> > Thanks Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
> > http://www.matronics.com/archives
> > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
> __________________________________
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>
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| Subject: | AvGas & Rotax 503 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
We landed in a truck stop along I-10 somewhere in Arizona. The truck stop
has a dirt runway on back used by ultralights. We thought the people at the
truck stop were going to be surprise to see us there. The waitress told us once
in a while ultralighters fly in Sunday mornings for breakfast. While flying
over the Southwest we noticed a few truck stops with dirt runways. So I guess
it's not so unusual as we thought.
Regards,
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron wehba
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: AvGas & Rotax 503
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
ok will where did you 2 land in da bar ditch??
----- Original Message -----
From: <WillUribe@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: AvGas & Rotax 503
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
>
> http://www.members.aol.com/willuribe/fuel01.jpg
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> Will Uribe
> El Paso, TX
> FireStar II N4GU
> C-172 N2506U
> http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
> Do not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Dow" <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: AvGas & Rotax 503
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Clifford Dow <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Hello
>> I'm new to Ultralights - can you run a Rotax 503 with regular avgas
>> (mixed
> with 2 cycle oil of course)?
>> if not - how do you all take a cross country trip?=A0 do you stop at
>> local
> airports and run into town and get autofuel and fill up that way?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kevin-jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
I have recently purchased Rob Aiksnoras' Mark III and would like to add amphibious
floats to it. Do you have any words of advice for me?
Kevin Jones
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