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1. 04:03 AM - Re: Fathers Day Fly-in (Denny Rowe)
2. 04:22 AM - Re: Re: sport pilot (pollus)
3. 05:14 AM - Re: Re: sport pilot (kfackler)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: Insurance (Ted C)
5. 06:26 AM - Re: Engine out (John Jung)
6. 07:42 AM - Re: Engine out (Mhqqqqq@aol.com)
7. 07:51 AM - Re: Engine out (flykolb)
8. 08:17 AM - Re: Engine out (herbgh@juno.com)
9. 08:55 AM - Re: Engine Overspeed/No Load Starts (ul15rhb@juno.com)
10. 10:44 AM - Re: Fathers Day Fly-in (Eugene Zimmerman)
11. 11:22 AM - Re: Engine out (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
12. 12:57 PM - The Grey Scot's return: (duncan mcbride)
13. 01:57 PM - Re: The Grey Scot's return: (Larry Bourne)
14. 02:34 PM - Re: [ B.W. Tuton ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Denny Rowe)
15. 04:04 PM - Re: The Grey Scot's return: (John Hauck)
16. 05:01 PM - Kolb Seats and Stuff (John Hauck)
17. 05:06 PM - Kolb Seats and Stuff Number 2 (John Hauck)
18. 05:45 PM - Wing folding (Dale Sellers)
19. 06:02 PM - Re: Wing folding (John Hauck)
20. 06:18 PM - Re: Wing folding (Richard Swiderwski)
21. 06:30 PM - Crash (Plancraz2020@aol.com)
22. 06:31 PM - Re: Engine out (Richard Swiderwski)
23. 06:32 PM - Last Summer Knik River Alaska (John Hauck)
24. 07:14 PM - Re: The Grey Scot's return: (robert bean)
25. 07:25 PM - Re: Wing folding (Dale Sellers)
26. 07:33 PM - Re: Wing folding (Dale Sellers)
27. 07:33 PM - Re: Crash (Bob N.)
28. 07:47 PM - Re: Wing folding (John Hauck)
29. 07:48 PM - Re: Crash (John Hauck)
30. 07:54 PM - Re: [ B.W. Tuton ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Beauford)
31. 08:21 PM - Explanation (John Hauck)
32. 08:40 PM - Re: Crash (Plancraz2020@aol.com)
33. 08:43 PM - Re: Engine Overspeed/No Load Starts (jerb)
34. 09:15 PM - Homer's Fly-in ... (artdog1512)
35. 09:39 PM - Re: Engine out (jerb)
36. 09:49 PM - Re: Engine out (John Hauck)
37. 09:49 PM - Re: Engine out (Rusty)
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Subject: | Re: Fathers Day Fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Terry,
Saturday looks good for me.
Denny Rowe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
OK, on the CAWSP test (Common Abbreviations for Wannabe Sport Pilots) I
score:
SP = Sport Pilot (I guess)
USUA BFI CFI FSDO FAA = Federal Aviation Authority (supposedly)
DPE
Which gives me a poor 29%.
Can anyone help me out?
Greetings from Holland
Pollus
Op 3-feb-05 om 13:34 heeft Ted C het volgende geschreven:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted C <trc1917@direcway.com>
>
> Just a little info for our Kolb pilot wannabees out there. A friend
> took the SP exam the other day and passed. He was asked for his
> training certificate. He stated he was USUA and had the certificate
> but they did not even know what it was. He explained he was a BFI and
> registered ultralite pilot and one of the CFIs was nice and signed him
> off to take the test. $90. He then called FSDO in Atlanta and was
> told he had to drive a hundred miles to their office to get a Student
> Sport Pilot license before he can get a Sport Pilot License. Wow,
> what was that. Has the FAA changed the rules and ignoring our past
> experience and certificates or is it just they dont have any rules
> laid down yet to follow and ignorance is the rule. I am still realing
> from the idea that a single place pilot cert must be bi-annualed in a
> factory two place. It still seems they are trying their best to screw
> us up rather than make it a reality. ted cowan, alabama. Oh, yeah,
> by the way, the test co!
> ntained numerous questions of a tricky nature NOT on the study guides.
> This man has been flying BFI for ten years and ultralites a great
> deal more and had no idea what the answers were, just guessed. He
> scored 85% and he is a teacher at Columbus State College. Sooooo, it
> seems that our two place, single control planes are gonna give us
> heartburn with the FAA. They actually state a DPE can watch you fly
> from the ground and rate you as a single pilot classification but you
> technically cannot fly your two place Kolb. Gonna be a mess if they
> dont change some of this stuff.
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "kfackler" <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> SP = Sport Pilot (I guess)
> USUA BFI CFI FSDO FAA = Federal Aviation Authority (supposedly)
> DPE
> Which gives me a poor 29%.
>
> Can anyone help me out?
USUA: United States Ultralight Association
BFI: Basic Flight Instuctor
CFI: Certified Flight Instructor
FSDO: Flight Standards District Office (I think)
FAA: Federal Aviation Administration
DPE: Designated Pilot Examiner
How'd I do?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted C <trc1917@direcway.com>
I have a policy with Alpha that pays on my death in/on or flying planes. It just
doesnt cover double indemnity. good policy. only three years old. ted cowan,
alabama
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Jim and Group,
If that happened to me, I would not fly again until I
checked the rings and pistons, like Richard Pike
suggested. This is from my experience of flying with 6
different 2 cycle engines over 17 years as well as
being a many year member of a large ultralight club.
I do not even like to fly with any two cycle, unless
it is new, or I have seen the pistons and rings with
my own eyes. It is one thing to run a motorcycle after
a seizure and quite another to fly after one.
While a number of problems could have caused your
engine out, it may have been a cold seizure.
John Jung
__________________________________
http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
I have stated this in the past, and will do so in the future as well.
this is intended for new 2 cycle users,
a 2 cycle engine uses gas as part of the cooling process. if you run a 2
cycle engine lean
you can get a lot of power from it. BUT YOU WILL OVER HEAT AND SEIZE YOUR
ENGINE.
if you notice your egt's getting warm go to full throttle and watch the heat
go away. (if you have the right jet in the carb)
I have noticed the people who trash the engines are the ones who change the
jets the most.
just watch the egt's and make sure you are not close to the max temp. egt's
are not
real accurate as far as temps go. the accuracy will change with the temp out
side.
mark
twinstar
s.e.minnesota
Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
My egt was 1000.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: <Mhqqqqq@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Engine out
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
>
> I have stated this in the past, and will do so in the future as well.
> this is intended for new 2 cycle users,
>
> a 2 cycle engine uses gas as part of the cooling process. if you run a 2
> cycle engine lean
> you can get a lot of power from it. BUT YOU WILL OVER HEAT AND SEIZE YOUR
> ENGINE.
>
> if you notice your egt's getting warm go to full throttle and watch the
heat
> go away. (if you have the right jet in the carb)
>
> I have noticed the people who trash the engines are the ones who change
the
> jets the most.
> just watch the egt's and make sure you are not close to the max temp.
egt's
> are not
> real accurate as far as temps go. the accuracy will change with the temp
out
> side.
>
>
> mark
> twinstar
> s.e.minnesota
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: herbgh@juno.com
Jim
My Egts were near 1000 also when I had the piston siezeure on the G50
Zenoah. I think I went lean when I lowered the nose and set the rpms to
cruise power. The engine just gradually lost power and stopped. A real
hard climb out followed by a reduction in power. Likely I should have
reduced the power more slowly??
Bottom line: I did an in air restart and flew the plane 10 miles to
the next airport and did a cursory exam but did not look at the pistons.
Flew another 20 miles home and did the piston exam the next morning.
I found light scoring and one of the rings was stuck in a small area.
My take is that if the engine looses power gradually--you may have a
piston to change! Herb
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Subject: | Re: Engine Overspeed/No Load Starts |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ul15rhb@juno.com" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
John and others,
I used to start a 377 without a prop and it would idle at 4500. Didn't dare move
the throttle.
Ralph
-- "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
The engine will rev really fast and very high if not careful. This
standard operating procedure for testing newly overhauled 912's
Hi Paul/Gang:
Sounds good, but be extremely careful starting a 912 or 912S without a
prop. Like you said, it will overspeed in a wink. We had that
problem with the TH-55 helicopter trainers. Started them with the
main rotor disengaged. A little too much throttle and it was
overspeeded and in the red. This was a Red X condition and the
engines had to be torn down for inspection and repair. Got to be very
expensive at Fort Wolters, TX, in the late 60's.
I think I'll stick to the old way of doing it with a prop.
Take care,
john h
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Subject: | Re: Fathers Day Fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <eugenezimmerman@dejazzd.com>
Hi Terry,
Saturday will work best for me.
Gene
terry wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I've been in contact with Homer and Clara Kolb regarding a repeat of last year's
Fathers Day
> Fly-in at their farm. They responded that they would indeed like to see this
happen again
> this year. One of the details that needs to be settled up front is which day
to schedule
> for. Last year we scheduled it for the Saturday of that weekend so as to have
Sunday as a
> back up for bad weather. They were wondering which day might suit most of you
that are
> interested in participating because of possible work conflicts. I will keep
a tally of those
> that respond to this question.
>
> As you might recall, that is also the weekend for the fly-in at Shreveport North
(Footlight
> Ranch) at Wellsville, Pa., which is an ultralight event. Can be used as a staging
point for
> those coming from a distance and a chance to meet other UL'ers.
>
> Terry - FireFly #95
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
H.L. Cooper, AZ Ultralights, is the guy who does all the work on my engine.
That is his full time job and he really knows his stuff. He advised me to
take the primer bulb off my airplane because he knows of at least two engine
outs directly related to them. This was on my 447 Firestar and we took it
off and put in a primer pump. Sold it about 100 hours later with no
problems. I did the same when I bought my MK III and have about 100 hours
on its primer pump with no problems.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
>> Turns out it was the fuel line primer bulb. The check valves in it
> would seal off the gas at times, but usually let it through. Was able to
> figure
>> this out when I finally had an engine out during a runup on the
> ground
The cure for this if you feel you need the primer bulb is
> to put a bypass around the bulb. You can pinch the bypass with your
> fingers
> while doing the priming. My Firestar with pull start is setup this way and
> it works great.
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Subject: | The Grey Scot's return: |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "duncan mcbride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
[Comcast finally got their act together in my new neighborhood. Getting a
high-speed internet connection again was inspiring. Turns out they never
disabled my e-mail account, so there were 1200 messages in my inbox when I
signed back on. Nice to be back. The new wings are coming along, in
between bathroom renovation and painting. See ya, D]
Thunder boomed in the distant darkness, and many of the pilots gathered in
the decrepit cafe they used to relax in the evenings following a day's
mission thought hopefully that the weather just might give them a brief
respite from the war. The recent push had placed many demands on the
battered squadron, and all the pilots could use a rest.
The silence following the lightning's report went on for too long, and
Flight Leader Hawk broke the quiet in away his men had come to treasure.
"You know, I remember once in the Mexican war when we were flying against
Pancho Villa, we had to fly around a thunderstorm that was so big it sucked
the Padre's De Havilland up to thirty thousand feet before he could escape
out the side. He passed out, but regained consciousness around ten
thousand. The motor had died and he was in a spin, but he was able to
recover and land in the desert. It was a good thing, too, because he stuck
out like a beacon out there on the sand, and we spotted him from twenty
miles away the next day. Turns out he was out of gas so we siphoned some
from the rest of us, and .."
Hawk's reverie was interrupted by the raucous buzz of a powerful motor whose
approach grew so loud as to make everyone duck behind their tables! Which
was prudent as it turned out, when a clattering, smoking German motorcycle
and sidecar crashed through the door of caf and came to shattering smash
against the bar! Out of the steam and smoke a lanky figure in cap 'n'
goggles slowly extricated itself from the wreckage, and stretched to full
height. He shook his head, and took a step towards the bar. His form was
hauntingly familiar to the pilots as they peeked around the tables they'd
sheltered behind. A figure they'd long known but had put behind them, as
pilots had learned to do since the beginning of flight.
"Could it be?" wondered the astounded pilots. "That looks like..."
"Hello lads. Can you point me in the direction of the 96th Squadron?" The
tall man pulled off his cap, revealing a shock of white hair. "I crashed
behind enemy lines a while back, and I've just gotten back across no man's
land. I could use a bite to eat if you've anything handy, I'm not
particular." The figure's speech faltered as he focused through the smoke.
"Padre, is that you? Hawk? Can it be?"
A cheer erupted as the squadron together recognized Scotty, their fallen
comrade, thought lost to the enemy these past months, and now returned to
their midst as if by a miracle. That, and modern German motorcycle
engineering. Pity that, the machine was a total writeoff, and a few of the
pilots were heard to remark on Scotty's remarkable lack of ability with
regard to two-wheeled vehicles, especially for one so gifted with winged
ones.
"I suppose we're lucky he made it this far", ventured the chief mechanic,
"but it is too bad he couldn't keep from ruining both the front suspension
and the bar, too."
"No matter," cried the jubilant Scot, "look what I've recaptured!"
Returning to the mangled sidecar, the joyful Scotty pawed through the
wreckage and clambered out, holding before him the prize.
"I crashed right near the Circus aerodrome and while I was hiding out and
planning a way back across the lines I spied them prancing about. So I
crept in one night to see what all the fuss was about. Seems they were all
excited about some trophy they were going to use to bait a trap for the
Allied squadron across the lines. I waited until they were asleep and snuck
in to get it, and guess what I found? Lar's boots!" Scotty triumphantly
held the battered flying boots above his head to the resounding cheers of
the squadron. "Here you go lad!" cried the happy Scot.
Lar crawled out from under the table he'd leapt under when the motorcycle
crashed through the bar, and gratefully accepted the return of his precious
boots. All the squadron rejoiced, glad that they would no longer have to
bear the not-so-silent suffering of their barefoot comrade.
"Fantastic!" cried the irrepressible Lar. "I'll be flying soon, now. Just
wait and see!"
Overwhelmed to be back among his fellow airmen, the joyful Scotty settled
back to enjoy the camaraderie and fellowship he'd sorely missed on his
adventure. "So," he asked, clapping the Padre on the back, "Just what have
we to eat around here?"
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Subject: | Re: The Grey Scot's return: |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Chuckle chuckle...........good to see ya back on the podium. Wondered what
happened to the stories. That durned ol' Lar just cain't seem to get past
that doggoned paperwork. Soon now, maybe............ :-)
Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "duncan mcbride" <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: The Grey Scot's return:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "duncan mcbride"
> <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
>
> [Comcast finally got their act together in my new neighborhood. Getting a
> high-speed internet connection again was inspiring. Turns out they never
> disabled my e-mail account, so there were 1200 messages in my inbox when I
> signed back on. Nice to be back. The new wings are coming along, in
> between bathroom renovation and painting. See ya, D]
>
>
> Thunder boomed in the distant darkness, and many of the pilots gathered in
> the decrepit cafe they used to relax in the evenings following a day's
> mission thought hopefully that the weather just might give them a brief
> respite from the war. The recent push had placed many demands on the
> battered squadron, and all the pilots could use a rest.
>
>
> The silence following the lightning's report went on for too long, and
> Flight Leader Hawk broke the quiet in away his men had come to treasure.
> "You know, I remember once in the Mexican war when we were flying against
> Pancho Villa, we had to fly around a thunderstorm that was so big it
> sucked
> the Padre's De Havilland up to thirty thousand feet before he could escape
> out the side. He passed out, but regained consciousness around ten
> thousand. The motor had died and he was in a spin, but he was able to
> recover and land in the desert. It was a good thing, too, because he
> stuck
> out like a beacon out there on the sand, and we spotted him from twenty
> miles away the next day. Turns out he was out of gas so we siphoned some
> from the rest of us, and .."
>
>
> Hawk's reverie was interrupted by the raucous buzz of a powerful motor
> whose
> approach grew so loud as to make everyone duck behind their tables! Which
> was prudent as it turned out, when a clattering, smoking German motorcycle
> and sidecar crashed through the door of caf and came to shattering smash
> against the bar! Out of the steam and smoke a lanky figure in cap 'n'
> goggles slowly extricated itself from the wreckage, and stretched to full
> height. He shook his head, and took a step towards the bar. His form
> was
> hauntingly familiar to the pilots as they peeked around the tables they'd
> sheltered behind. A figure they'd long known but had put behind them, as
> pilots had learned to do since the beginning of flight.
>
>
> "Could it be?" wondered the astounded pilots. "That looks like..."
>
>
> "Hello lads. Can you point me in the direction of the 96th Squadron?"
> The
> tall man pulled off his cap, revealing a shock of white hair. "I crashed
> behind enemy lines a while back, and I've just gotten back across no man's
> land. I could use a bite to eat if you've anything handy, I'm not
> particular." The figure's speech faltered as he focused through the
> smoke.
> "Padre, is that you? Hawk? Can it be?"
>
>
> A cheer erupted as the squadron together recognized Scotty, their fallen
> comrade, thought lost to the enemy these past months, and now returned to
> their midst as if by a miracle. That, and modern German motorcycle
> engineering. Pity that, the machine was a total writeoff, and a few of
> the
> pilots were heard to remark on Scotty's remarkable lack of ability with
> regard to two-wheeled vehicles, especially for one so gifted with winged
> ones.
>
>
> "I suppose we're lucky he made it this far", ventured the chief mechanic,
> "but it is too bad he couldn't keep from ruining both the front suspension
> and the bar, too."
>
>
> "No matter," cried the jubilant Scot, "look what I've recaptured!"
> Returning to the mangled sidecar, the joyful Scotty pawed through the
> wreckage and clambered out, holding before him the prize.
>
>
> "I crashed right near the Circus aerodrome and while I was hiding out and
> planning a way back across the lines I spied them prancing about. So I
> crept in one night to see what all the fuss was about. Seems they were
> all
> excited about some trophy they were going to use to bait a trap for the
> Allied squadron across the lines. I waited until they were asleep and
> snuck
> in to get it, and guess what I found? Lar's boots!" Scotty triumphantly
> held the battered flying boots above his head to the resounding cheers of
> the squadron. "Here you go lad!" cried the happy Scot.
>
>
> Lar crawled out from under the table he'd leapt under when the motorcycle
> crashed through the bar, and gratefully accepted the return of his
> precious
> boots. All the squadron rejoiced, glad that they would no longer have to
> bear the not-so-silent suffering of their barefoot comrade.
>
>
> "Fantastic!" cried the irrepressible Lar. "I'll be flying soon, now.
> Just
> wait and see!"
>
>
> Overwhelmed to be back among his fellow airmen, the joyful Scotty settled
> back to enjoy the camaraderie and fellowship he'd sorely missed on his
> adventure. "So," he asked, clapping the Padre on the back, "Just what
> have
> we to eat around here?"
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: [ B.W. Tuton ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
> Poster: B.W. Tuton <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
>
>
> Subject: Florida Kolbing
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/beauford@tampabay.rr.com.02.05.2005/index.html
>
Hey Beauford,
How about a story or details about how this noble band of brothers got
together?
Had to be a blast.
Denny Rowe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Getting a
| high-speed internet connection again was inspiring. |
Duncan McBride
Hi Duncan/Gang:
Glad to have you back. Get the old bird flying soon so you can make
it to S&F. If not S&F, then the Kolb Flyin the end of Sep.
Enjoy your tails of daring do.....
john h
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Subject: | Kolb Seats and Stuff |
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Hi All:
Spent the last two days, beautiful clear blue and sun shine, working
on and flying my MKIII. Had not been flying since 30 Dec 04. Always
a super good feeling to get in the old bird and take off for the first
time after a long dry spell on the ground.
Had to take the right seat out today to get to the radio and intercom
wiring. Just happened to have the digital camera with me. So....I
took several shots of the seat sitting on the ground in different
positions.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Seat,%20Kolb/Picture%20014.jpg
Back is to the right and front is to the left.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Seat,%20Kolb/Picture%20013.jpg
Front to rear.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Seat,%20Kolb/Picture%20015.jpg
Looking at the rear. BTW that is the original Ultrastar seat cover
that came with Kolb Kits back in 1984, made by Azusa of California.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Seat,%20Kolb/Picture%20017.jpg
Laying on its face. Notice the aluminum sheet riveted to the seat
frame to keep my boney ass from being sucked through the 4130 seat
frame in case of a hard flat landing (crash).
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Subject: | Kolb Seats and Stuff Number 2 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Gang:
Dad burn it. Hit the wrong key, again............
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Seat,%20Kolb/Picture%20017.jpg
More seat, top left.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Seat,%20Kolb/Picture%20016.jpg
Bottom.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Seat,%20Kolb/Picture%20009.jpg
Where I was working for the past two days. ;-)
Should give you all a better idea of my seat configuration.
john h
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Does anyone have any drawings or pictures of the change to folding on the rear
spar rather than the front on the UltraStar? Sure looks like a worthwhile thing
to do to me.
Dale Sellers
Georgia UltraStar
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
on the rear spar rather than the front on the UltraStar? Sure looks
like a worthwhile thing to do to me.
|
| Dale Sellers
Hi Dale/Gang:
I don't know how much flying you have done with your Ultrastar. Have
you noticed anything unusual about the flight characteristics and
controls while flying? Any adverse control characteristics?
I built a 1984 Ultrastar which had the universal on the main spar. I
did not have to fold my wings because I kept it in the pasture with
the cows with a couple strands of barbed wire around it.
Trying to help you out a bit on deciding to do a very major change to
the structure of your older Ultrastar.
Take care,
john h
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Dale,
I wrote a detailed response on how I dealt with this problem (folded
height too high for my garage & trailer. It served me very well for years
as I had to fold & unfold every flight. If you don't find it in the
archives, let me know.
Richard Swiderski
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Sellers
Subject: Kolb-List: Wing folding
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Does anyone have any drawings or pictures of the change to folding on the
rear spar rather than the front on the UltraStar? Sure looks like a
worthwhile thing to do to me.
Dale Sellers
Georgia UltraStar
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List,
Yesterday afternoon a two place Kolb crashed just northeast of Memphis, Tn..
It struck the ground nose first and caught fire killing the pilot. One TV
crew member reported it as a Kolb and by the photos of the boom tube and tail
section there is no doubt.
The site below gives more details.
_http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=2907282_
(http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=2907282)
Do not archive
David Jones
Hernando, MS.
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Jim,
If your EGT was 1000 then a seizure seems about impossible, although
your description sure sounds like one. Its easy enough to drop the exhaust &
check for shuffing on piston or cylinder wall. ...Richard Swiderski
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flykolb
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Engine out
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
My egt was 1000.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: <Mhqqqqq@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Engine out
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mhqqqqq@aol.com
>
> I have stated this in the past, and will do so in the future as well.
> this is intended for new 2 cycle users,
>
> a 2 cycle engine uses gas as part of the cooling process. if you run a 2
> cycle engine lean
> you can get a lot of power from it. BUT YOU WILL OVER HEAT AND SEIZE YOUR
> ENGINE.
>
> if you notice your egt's getting warm go to full throttle and watch the
heat
> go away. (if you have the right jet in the carb)
>
> I have noticed the people who trash the engines are the ones who change
the
> jets the most.
> just watch the egt's and make sure you are not close to the max temp.
egt's
> are not
> real accurate as far as temps go. the accuracy will change with the temp
out
> side.
>
>
> mark
> twinstar
> s.e.minnesota
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Last Summer Knik River Alaska |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Kolbers:
Hard to believe it has been nearly 7 months since I was standing on
the down side of this morraine of the a glacier I can not remember.
But.........it was just south of the Knik Glacier out of Palmer,
Alaska.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0002.jpg
This was taken on the other side of the glacier morraine which was
about 400 feet high. Was a good hike and warmed us up for the cold
wind that was blowing off the glacial lake in July 2004. That little
piece of ice I am holding is crystal clear. Could be several thousand
years old when it calved off the glacier in the background. Those are
huge ice bergs out there floating in the lake. The water temp is very
near freezing.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0003.jpg
I was strapping in to depart from Jim Stocker's home on the Knik River
near Palmer, Alaska. Jim was a super host. Put me up for a week.
Showed me some of the most beautifully awesome terrain I have ever
seen, right up the Knik River from his place.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0004.jpg
Heading down Jim's lane to the air strip on the Knik River.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0010.jpg
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0017.jpg
Shoe horned through the gate.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0014.jpg
Down on the gravel strip on the Knik River. Experiencing a flat tire
a long way from Alabama. Got to expect stuff like this to happen when
one decides to do some serious cross country travel in a little bitty
airplane.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0005.jpg
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0007.jpg
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0009.jpg
Taxing down the lane from Jim's house past his neighbor's log cabin,
on the way to the gravel air strip on the Knik River:
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0006.jpg
This is Jim Stocker at the same place below the glacier morraine.
That is his restored PA-11 with Alaska tires. The tires sell for
$3,500.00 a pair and worth every penny of it based on their design,
innovation, reliability, and performance.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0008.jpg
This is what my Kolb Mark III is all about. Up and off the gravel
strip on the Knik River, fully loaded, max gross weight near 1,200
lbs, off in a couple hundred feet and climbing out. I was on my way
to Talkeetna for fuel, then on to North Pole to get ready to head
north to the Arctic.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0015.jpg
Heading that way.
http://home.elmore.rr.com/jhauck/Knik%20River%20Alaska/scan0016.jpg
Getting antsy to go back for the 4th time. ;-)
john h
Mark III 2,266.4 hours
912ULS 920.5 hours
Can't buy it! Got to experience it! Alaska flying is the greatest!
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Scotty's been into the hallucinogens again I see....... do not archive
On 6, Feb 2005, at 3:56 PM, duncan mcbride wrote:
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> <duncanmcbride@comcast.net>
>
> [Comcast finally got their act together in my new neighborhood.
> Getting a
> high-speed internet connection again was inspiring. Turns out they
> never
> disabled my e-mail account, so there were 1200 messages in my inbox
> when I
> signed back on. Nice to be back. The new wings are coming along, in
> between bathroom renovation and painting. See ya, D]
>
>
> Thunder boomed in the distant darkness, and many of the pilots
> gathered in
> the decrepit cafe they used to relax in the evenings following a day's
> mission thought hopefully that the weather just might give them a brief
> respite from the war. The recent push had placed many demands on the
> battered squadron, and all the pilots could use a rest.
>
>
> The silence following the lightning's report went on for too long, and
> Flight Leader Hawk broke the quiet in away his men had come to
> treasure.
> "You know, I remember once in the Mexican war when we were flying
> against
> Pancho Villa, we had to fly around a thunderstorm that was so big it
> sucked
> the Padre's De Havilland up to thirty thousand feet before he could
> escape
> out the side. He passed out, but regained consciousness around ten
> thousand. The motor had died and he was in a spin, but he was able to
> recover and land in the desert. It was a good thing, too, because he
> stuck
> out like a beacon out there on the sand, and we spotted him from twenty
> miles away the next day. Turns out he was out of gas so we siphoned
> some
> from the rest of us, and .."
>
>
> Hawk's reverie was interrupted by the raucous buzz of a powerful motor
> whose
> approach grew so loud as to make everyone duck behind their tables!
> Which
> was prudent as it turned out, when a clattering, smoking German
> motorcycle
> and sidecar crashed through the door of caf and came to shattering
> smash
> against the bar! Out of the steam and smoke a lanky figure in cap 'n'
> goggles slowly extricated itself from the wreckage, and stretched to
> full
> height. He shook his head, and took a step towards the bar. His
> form was
> hauntingly familiar to the pilots as they peeked around the tables
> they'd
> sheltered behind. A figure they'd long known but had put behind them,
> as
> pilots had learned to do since the beginning of flight.
>
>
> "Could it be?" wondered the astounded pilots. "That looks like..."
>
>
> "Hello lads. Can you point me in the direction of the 96th Squadron?"
> The
> tall man pulled off his cap, revealing a shock of white hair. "I
> crashed
> behind enemy lines a while back, and I've just gotten back across no
> man's
> land. I could use a bite to eat if you've anything handy, I'm not
> particular." The figure's speech faltered as he focused through the
> smoke.
> "Padre, is that you? Hawk? Can it be?"
>
>
> A cheer erupted as the squadron together recognized Scotty, their
> fallen
> comrade, thought lost to the enemy these past months, and now returned
> to
> their midst as if by a miracle. That, and modern German motorcycle
> engineering. Pity that, the machine was a total writeoff, and a few
> of the
> pilots were heard to remark on Scotty's remarkable lack of ability with
> regard to two-wheeled vehicles, especially for one so gifted with
> winged
> ones.
>
>
> "I suppose we're lucky he made it this far", ventured the chief
> mechanic,
> "but it is too bad he couldn't keep from ruining both the front
> suspension
> and the bar, too."
>
>
> "No matter," cried the jubilant Scot, "look what I've recaptured!"
> Returning to the mangled sidecar, the joyful Scotty pawed through the
> wreckage and clambered out, holding before him the prize.
>
>
> "I crashed right near the Circus aerodrome and while I was hiding out
> and
> planning a way back across the lines I spied them prancing about. So I
> crept in one night to see what all the fuss was about. Seems they
> were all
> excited about some trophy they were going to use to bait a trap for the
> Allied squadron across the lines. I waited until they were asleep and
> snuck
> in to get it, and guess what I found? Lar's boots!" Scotty
> triumphantly
> held the battered flying boots above his head to the resounding
> cheers of
> the squadron. "Here you go lad!" cried the happy Scot.
>
>
> Lar crawled out from under the table he'd leapt under when the
> motorcycle
> crashed through the bar, and gratefully accepted the return of his
> precious
> boots. All the squadron rejoiced, glad that they would no longer have
> to
> bear the not-so-silent suffering of their barefoot comrade.
>
>
> "Fantastic!" cried the irrepressible Lar. "I'll be flying soon, now.
> Just
> wait and see!"
>
>
> Overwhelmed to be back among his fellow airmen, the joyful Scotty
> settled
> back to enjoy the camaraderie and fellowship he'd sorely missed on his
> adventure. "So," he asked, clapping the Padre on the back, "Just what
> have
> we to eat around here?"
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Wing folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
No, I hanen't notices any unusual things. As a mater of fact, it flys
great. I've flown it for ten hours. Is there something I need to know?
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing folding
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> on the rear spar rather than the front on the UltraStar? Sure looks
> like a worthwhile thing to do to me.
>
> Hi Dale/Gang:
>
> I don't know how much flying you have done with your Ultrastar. Have
> you noticed anything unusual about the flight characteristics and
> controls while flying? Any adverse control characteristics?
>
> I built a 1984 Ultrastar which had the universal on the main spar. I
> did not have to fold my wings because I kept it in the pasture with
> the cows with a couple strands of barbed wire around it.
>
> Trying to help you out a bit on deciding to do a very major change to
> the structure of your older Ultrastar.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Wing folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Richard,
I got no hits in the archives. Do you remember the name of the string?
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Wing folding
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski"
> <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
>
> Dale,
> I wrote a detailed response on how I dealt with this problem
> (folded
> height too high for my garage & trailer. It served me very well for years
> as I had to fold & unfold every flight. If you don't find it in the
> archives, let me know.
>
> Richard Swiderski
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Sellers
> To: Kolb List
> Subject: Kolb-List: Wing folding
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>
> Does anyone have any drawings or pictures of the change to folding on the
> rear spar rather than the front on the UltraStar? Sure looks like a
> worthwhile thing to do to me.
>
> Dale Sellers
> Georgia UltraStar
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Couldn't bring it up on two browsers.
Bob N.
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Wing folding |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
flys
| great. I've flown it for ten hours. Is there something I need to
know?
|
| Dale
Dale/Gang:
I am assuming your Ultrastar is a first generation series with wing
folding universal joint on the main spar, just the opposite of the
second generation Ultrastar, Firestar, and the rest of the later Kolb
models.
Does it have a main spar ring on the inboard rib? Or, two 4130 tubes
welded to the inboard rib for main spar attachment, inserted into the
main spar, inside top and bottom?
There was an adverse characteristic of this wing that was very
noticeable. Later design improvements eliminated this problem.
Maybe, in 10 short hours, your flying style did not get you into that
area that would demonstrat that particular wing problem.
Another problem was aileron flutter, but not everyone gets into it.
Like the Firestar and MKIII, some do and some don't. The old Factory
MKIII never showed any sign of wanting to get into aileron flutter,
but mine, with a lot of dope and paint, would flutter at anything over
80 mph, until I got and installed the aileron counter balance weights.
I personally would not change the pivot point on the wing folding
mechanism if it flew great with no adverse flight characteristics.
Unless you had rather work on it than fly.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Couldn't bring it up on two browsers.
|
| Bob N.
Bob N/Gang:
I pulled up the crash info on this url with IE:
http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=2907282
john h
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Subject: | Re: [ B.W. Tuton ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Beauford" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
Denny :
Not much to it... Dennis was in the area on business and was kind enough to
offer to meet me to talk to me about pros and cons of increasing the gross
weight of the Firefly when I license it experimental later this year.
Brothers Neilsen and Armstrong also live in the area... George keeps his
Kolb trailer on the tiedown adjacent to mine and they came out to the strip
to say hello to Dennis. We had an enjoyable afternoon.
Incidently, the dancing girls, jugglers and Budweiser truck had all departed
the fix just moments prior to the picture being snapped... honest....
Beauford
FF #076
Brandon FL
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
>>>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/beauford@tampabay.rr.com.02.05.2005/index.html
>>>
> Hey Beauford,
> How about a story or details about how this noble band of brothers got
> together?
> Had to be a blast.
>
> Denny Rowe
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Folks:
It has been pointed out to me that everyone is not as familar with the
geography of Alaska as I have been blessed with by having a chance to
fly my MKIII up there. For a point of clarification, North Pole,
Alaska, is a village just south of Fairbanks. Not the geographic
North Pole. When I took off from my buddy's gravel strip on the Knik
River I was headed for the village of North Pole. The geographic
north pole is 1,200 miles north of Point Barrow, AK. A little too far
for me to attempt on 4 hours fuel. Not even one way. ;-)
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Plancraz2020@aol.com
Bob,
Copy and paste the bottom browser without the ( )
David
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Subject: | Re: Engine Overspeed/No Load Starts |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Same thought crossed my mind when I read Paul's comment. You need some
load to reduce the potential of over reving the engine - could end up being
a very expensive lesson not having it loaded.
jerb
At 10:49 AM 2/5/05 -0600, you wrote:
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>
> The engine will rev really fast and very high if not careful. This
>standard operating procedure for testing newly overhauled 912's
> | Paul Petty
>
>Hi Paul/Gang:
>
>Sounds good, but be extremely careful starting a 912 or 912S without a
>prop. Like you said, it will overspeed in a wink. We had that
>problem with the TH-55 helicopter trainers. Started them with the
>main rotor disengaged. A little too much throttle and it was
>overspeeded and in the red. This was a Red X condition and the
>engines had to be torn down for inspection and repair. Got to be very
>expensive at Fort Wolters, TX, in the late 60's.
>
>I think I'll stick to the old way of doing it with a prop.
>
>Take care,
>
>john h
>
>
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Subject: | Homer's Fly-in ... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: artdog1512 <nazz57@yahoo.com>
Time: 08:07:54 AM PST US
From: terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Fathers Day Fly-in
--> Kolb-List message posted by: terry
<tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
Kolbers,
I've been in contact with Homer and Clara Kolb
regarding a repeat of
last year's
Fathers Day
Fly-in at their farm. They responded that they would
indeed like to
see this happen
again
this year....>>>>
good idea Terry but i vote for a different
weekend since the Father's Day fly-in at Wellsville
happpens at the same time. obviously this would create
some conflict since we couldn't enjoy both events at
the same time. your right about Wellsville being a
good place to assemble but i still cast my vote for
Homer's being on a different weekend then the fly-in
at Wellsville. .... tim (FireFly at Shoestring)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Richard (Pike)
What is a Moon Pie?
jerb
snip....
>PS: it was a beautiful day here in NE Tennessee too, a bunch of us flew to
>a little grass strip along the Nolichucky river for a Moon Pie fly in.
>Beats a $100 hamburger any day!
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| What is a Moon Pie?
| jerb
jerb/All:
It is what goes with an RC!
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
What is a Moon Pie?
jerb
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Something you only eat when you're drunk during Mardi Gras. OK, maybe that
was just my college years :-)
Rusty
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