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1. 05:51 AM - Tachometers (N27SB@aol.com)
2. 05:53 AM - Re: Tachometers (N27SB@aol.com)
3. 05:56 AM - Tachometers (N27SB@aol.com)
4. 05:58 AM - Re: Tachometers (John Hauck)
5. 07:16 AM - Re: Tachometers (Larry Bourne)
6. 07:46 AM - Re: Tachometers (N27SB@aol.com)
7. 07:47 AM - Re: Tachometers (N27SB@aol.com)
8. 08:22 AM - Perception of an "Ultralight" (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
9. 08:33 AM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (robert bean)
10. 08:40 AM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (John Hauck)
11. 09:36 AM - Kolb prices? (Clifford Dow)
12. 09:53 AM - Tom & Betty Kuffel are on the mend and on the move.... (b young)
13. 09:55 AM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (John Williamson)
14. 10:32 AM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Lee.Creech@ky.gov)
15. 10:52 AM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (WillUribe@aol.com)
16. 11:39 AM - Re: Kolb prices? (John Hauck)
17. 11:40 AM - Re: Tom & Betty Kuffel are on the mend and on the move.... (John Hauck)
18. 11:44 AM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (John Hauck)
19. 12:28 PM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
20. 02:30 PM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Richard Pike)
21. 03:26 PM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Kirk Smith)
22. 03:51 PM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (bryan green)
23. 05:04 PM - Fw: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Bill Vincent)
24. 06:02 PM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Daniel Walter)
25. 06:22 PM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Larry Bourne)
26. 06:37 PM - Re: Tom & Betty Kuffel are on the mend and on the move.... (Larry Bourne)
27. 06:54 PM - Re: Fw: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Bob N.)
28. 07:58 PM - Re: Fw: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Jack & Louise Hart)
29. 08:09 PM - Re: Fw: Perception of an "Ultralight" (Robert Laird)
30. 08:09 PM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (John Hauck)
31. 08:25 PM - Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" (ray anderson)
32. 08:54 PM - Re: Fw: Perception of an "Ultra light" (Jack & Louise Hart)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Is anyone using an Aviasport tachometer. I just can't get used to the tiny
meter style tachs that are commonly seen in UL.
Steve Boetto
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Sorry, forgot to mention that the tach is to used on a 447 single cdi
Steve
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
the tiny
| meter style tachs that are commonly seen in UL.
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|
| Steve Boetto
Steve/Gang:
Good Morning.
I've been using one with the 912/912S for more than 10 years and over
2,000 hours. Takes a licking and keeps on ticking. My only complaint
is size. I would like a 3" gauge, but the only come in 2". Oh well,
can't have everything my way.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I got the 3 1/8" UMA tach from Aircraft Spruce, but it's kind of spendy. It
uses 4 wires that wrap around the spark plug leads for pickups. Seems to
work fine............on the ground. :-) Lar.
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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: <N27SB@aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Tachometers
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
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> Is anyone using an Aviasport tachometer. I just can't get used to the tiny
> meter style tachs that are commonly seen in UL.
>
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> Steve Boetto
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Thanks John, I already have one on order
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Steve B
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Thanks,
Steve
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| Subject: | Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Kolb Friends -
It has become apparent to me that many (most?) general aviation pilots do
not perceive much difference between ultalights and light sport aircraft.
Here's why I think this:
In December, I moved my Mark-III to a different airport closer to my home.
It's a small airfield, but is much busier than where I was previously based
- lots of general aviation traffic, including Experimentals (RVs, Europas,
etc). On all the times I've flown since moving there, I've noticed that all
the pilots who fly "regular" planes consistently refer to my Kolb as an
"ultralight" in their radio chatter.
I always identify myself as "Experimental niner three delta kilo" in the
traffic pattern. But everybody else, in making reference to my Kolb, insist
on referring to me as "Ultralight." Things like, "I'm number two behind the
Ultralight on downwind." And once, when I had an inop radio, a fellow in an
RV-9 was kind enough to broadcast on the frequency that "There is Ultralight
traffic in the pattern" to someone else who called in, asking for an airport
advisory.
The other pilots are not using the term disparagingly, nor is their intent
to be haughty or demeaning in any way. They just think that our little
kit-built planes like Kolbs are all "Ultralights."
It may be a while before the new Light Sport Aircraft trend becomes
mainstream enough that the GA crowd will finally view us as "real" airplanes
also. Just my observations. Anybody else see this happening?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, Verner-powered, Powerfin-72
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Yup, that's the way it is. When someone asks what I have, I say
kitplane. Call me anything but don't call me late for dinner.
-BB do not archive
On 11, Feb 2005, at 11:21 AM, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Kolb Friends -
>
> It has become apparent to me that many (most?) general aviation pilots
> do
> not perceive much difference between ultalights and light sport
> aircraft.
> Here's why I think this:
>
> In December, I moved my Mark-III to a different airport closer to my
> home.
> It's a small airfield, but is much busier than where I was previously
> based
> - lots of general aviation traffic, including Experimentals (RVs,
> Europas,
> etc). On all the times I've flown since moving there, I've noticed
> that all
> the pilots who fly "regular" planes consistently refer to my Kolb as an
> "ultralight" in their radio chatter.
>
> I always identify myself as "Experimental niner three delta kilo" in
> the
> traffic pattern. But everybody else, in making reference to my Kolb,
> insist
> on referring to me as "Ultralight." Things like, "I'm number two
> behind the
> Ultralight on downwind." And once, when I had an inop radio, a fellow
> in an
> RV-9 was kind enough to broadcast on the frequency that "There is
> Ultralight
> traffic in the pattern" to someone else who called in, asking for an
> airport
> advisory.
>
> The other pilots are not using the term disparagingly, nor is their
> intent
> to be haughty or demeaning in any way. They just think that our little
> kit-built planes like Kolbs are all "Ultralights."
>
> It may be a while before the new Light Sport Aircraft trend becomes
> mainstream enough that the GA crowd will finally view us as "real"
> airplanes
> also. Just my observations. Anybody else see this happening?
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-III, Verner-powered, Powerfin-72
> Cedar Crest, NM
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
pilots do
| not perceive much difference between ultalights and light sport
aircraft.
Dennis/Gang:
Kolbs look like ultralights, whether registered experimental or not.
In the air it is difficult to differentiate between a FS and a MKIII.
As you stated, they are not being demeaning by referring to us as UL's
in the traffic pattern, or elsewhere. Used to irritate me, way back
when I first started flying my MKIII with N number, when I was
referred to as UL. But I have gotten over it. I think the big boys
overlook my sloppy flying because they think I am an UL and not a real
live experimental airplane.
Many times in Canada controllers referred to me as UL. No big deal.
Experimental covers a lot of territory, from Warbirds to powered
parachutes.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Clifford Dow <cdowjr@yahoo.com>
Barnstormers.com has an ad under ultralights - Kolb - for a Super Kolb III
price is $28K
If this is in good shape - do you think one would go wrong buying this? I bought
my 1999 Chevy Suburban at $35K and it cost me $10K/year in depreciation for
the next 2 years. What would likely happen to this high priced Kolb over the
next three years if kept in a hanger??
would it depreciate radically? If you figure the kit price, a BRS chute & Rotax
912 and all the time to assemble a new one this doesnt sound too bad to me?
What do you all think?
is there any reason why this ultralight wouldn't last me for a decade if I kept
it in a hanger?
thanks
cliff
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| Subject: | Tom & Betty Kuffel are on the mend and on the move.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Last fall my wife and i spent a night with tom and betty while on a trip thropugh
the area.... and this week we were able to return the favor as they stayed
with us. as compaired to last fall... they have both improved their mobility
after their acident ,10 months ago.... we had a wonderfull visit and
spent the day at a musium in salt lake city...
they will be visiting family and friends down south.... and may even stop by
big lars aircraft factory on the way home...... now i mentioned that using
"big lar " and " aircraft factory" in the same sentence was quite a streach.....
as the term factory would imply that something was going on.... "aircraft
hanger" may have been a more corect term. larry if something "IS" going
on and it "IS" indeed a "factory", you need to let us in on the progress.....
sometimes i think that he is secretly working on vamoose without letting
us know just so he can suprize us at monument valley..... but then i think
he is waiting for it to become an antique first...... sorry lar.
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boyd
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| Subject: | Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Dennis has hit on one of my pet areas,
Being an old dumb spam can and sewer tube pilot, I hate it when another of
my kind wrongly state the category of aircraft they are talking about. It
just shows how little they really know.
But almost as bad as them is the pilot of the other aircraft not correcting
him. It will clarify the issue and educate the other pilot.
A lot of the confusion can be taken care of by us very small airplane
operators using the correct phraseology on the radio. As an example: I am
"Kolb 49KK" when I make all my radio calls at an uncontrolled airfield. When
I call an ATC facility I am "Kolb 49KK Experimental" for the initial contact
call and "Kolb 49KK" on all of the rest of the calls.
This procedure meets the requirements of CFR 91.319 and is in line with the
examples right out of the Aeronautical Information Manual.
As for the pure Ultralight vehicles, the FAA provides no guidance. I assume
you have to agree on what you will use as a call-sign when you get your
"prior authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that
airspace" IAW CFR 103.17.
*************************************
91.319 Aircraft having experimental certificates: Operating limitations.
Excerpt:......
(3) Notify the control tower of the experimental nature of the aircraft when
operating the aircraft into or out of airports with operating control
towers.
Radio phraseology used with ATC:
http://www.faa.gov/ATPubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0402.html#4-2-4
Excerpt from reference above:
3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or
manufacturer's name, followed by the digits/letters of the registration
number. When the aircraft manufacturer's name or model is stated, the prefix
"N" is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four Alpha.
EXAMPLE-
1. Bonanza Six Five Five Golf.
2. Breezy Six One Three Romeo Experimental (omit "Experimental" after
initial contact).
103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class
C, or Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface area
of Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has prior
authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
**************************************
I will sure be glad when I get the Kolbra back in the air and I don't have
time to write these kind of emails.
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912UL, 708 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lee.Creech@ky.gov
For the purpose of radio communication in the traffic pattern, the speed of
the aircraft is probably its most important characteristic. In that sense,
"ultralight" is short for "ultralight-type", meaning SLOW, and that
information can be to everybody's benefit including the pilot of the slow
plane. For that reason we probably shouldn't object to the use of the term,
even if it's not technically correct.
Lee
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From: John Hauck [mailto:jhauck@elmore.rr.com]
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Perception of an "Ultralight"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
pilots do
| not perceive much difference between ultalights and light sport
aircraft.
Dennis/Gang:
Kolbs look like ultralights, whether registered experimental or not.
In the air it is difficult to differentiate between a FS and a MKIII.
As you stated, they are not being demeaning by referring to us as UL's
in the traffic pattern, or elsewhere. Used to irritate me, way back
when I first started flying my MKIII with N number, when I was
referred to as UL. But I have gotten over it. I think the big boys
overlook my sloppy flying because they think I am an UL and not a real
live experimental airplane.
Many times in Canada controllers referred to me as UL. No big deal.
Experimental covers a lot of territory, from Warbirds to powered
parachutes.
john h
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| Subject: | Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
The airport owner from where we fly out off wants us to use Ultralight for
our call sign before the N number for the same reasons you stated below.
Regards,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
C-172 N2506U
http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lee.Creech@ky.gov
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Perception of an "Ultralight"
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lee.Creech@ky.gov
For the purpose of radio communication in the traffic pattern, the speed of
the aircraft is probably its most important characteristic. In that sense,
"ultralight" is short for "ultralight-type", meaning SLOW, and that
information can be to everybody's benefit including the pilot of the slow
plane. For that reason we probably shouldn't object to the use of the term,
even if it's not technically correct.
Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb prices? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
doesnt sound too bad to me? What do you all think?
| is there any reason why this ultralight wouldn't last me for a
decade if I kept it in a hanger?
| thanks
| cliff
Hi Cliff/Gang:
I don't see why not.
I have been flying my MKIII since Mar 1992 and have accumulated well
over 2,000 hours on the airframe. Original 912 was changed out for a
912S Spring 2000. Not because the 912 with 1,135.9 hours was worn
out, but because I got a deal I couldn't confuse on the 912S.
I hope my MKIII is still flying another 10 years or more from now.
Don't really want to spend the time and money for another airplane to
buy and build. Plus, I am happy with mine, until I had to fly with
John Williamson and his 912S powered Kolbra. Now that he has
downgraded to the 912, maybe I can keep up with him now. Oh well, if
I can't keep up, he'll slow down and wait on me. He's a good guy.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Tom & Betty Kuffel are on the mend and on the move.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
a trip thropugh the area.... and this week we were able to return
the favor as they stayed with us. as compaired to last fall... |
boyd
Hi Boyde/Gang:
That is great news. Now, if they can make it to SLC and Palm Springs
now, then MV will be a piece of cake for them.
Glad to hear they are doing much better. We missed them and the
Prospector last year.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| I will sure be glad when I get the Kolbra back in the air and I
don't have
| time to write these kind of emails.
|
|
| John Williamson
Hi John W/Gang:
Thanks for the clarification. I was confused and using the prefix
"experimental" incorrectly.
I reckon if the GA types, and others, hear us us our ID correctly long
enough, they will eventually know who we are and what we are flying.
Yes, for the most part, the term "ultralight" when used by a lot of
"real" airplane guys, is used in a demeaning manner. Not to worry, I
have corrected many of them if I had the chance to speak to them once
on the ground. Some are still carrying the scars, I am sure. hehehe
Take care,
john h
PS: Hurry up and get the Kolbra flying. Nothing worse than an
irritable CW4, except another CW4. And I guess now a CW5.
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| Subject: | Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
> The airport owner from where we fly out off wants us to use Ultralight for
> our call sign before the N number for the same reasons you stated below.
>
> For the purpose of radio communication in the traffic pattern, the speed
> of
> the aircraft is probably its most important characteristic. In that
> sense,
> "ultralight" is short for "ultralight-type", meaning SLOW, and that
> information can be to everybody's benefit including the pilot of the slow
> plane. For that reason we probably shouldn't object to the use of the
> term,
> even if it's not technically correct.
Guys,
I'm not experienced in flying into towered airports. Seems like I
remember reading an article (USUA?) about a year ago advocating describing
the ultralight instead of the ASC/USUA registration number. Reasoning was
that other aircraft would know what to look for and know that a slow
aircraft is in the pattern. Seemed like a good idea to me so I began using
it in my call sign:"A10DAP Red & Yellow UL.........." From there on I would
just use "Red & Yellow UL........" . Along with this, it seemed to me that
since I'm slower, I ought to be lower so I'd fly a 400' AGL Pattern and
advertise that fact. I've wondered whether this is acceptable or not and
never have had anyone complain about it...Comments???? (But be nice, I cry
easily.)
AzDave
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| Subject: | Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
John is dead on the money here, let me add a little rant of my own.
Notice this blurb in the Far:
103.13 Operation near aircraft; right-of-way rules.
(a) Each person operating an ultralight vehicle shall maintain vigilance so
as to see and avoid aircraft and shall yield the right-of-way to all aircraft.
When you identify yourself as an ultralight, then you automatically remove
yourself from the right-of-way rules of part 91 and everybody else in the
traffic pattern will expect you to get out of their way. Any airport
operator who told me I had to identify myself as an ultralight while
operating in the traffic pattern is asking me to operate contrary to the
FAR that John cites. Which means - among other things- that if an incident
occurs, then I was probably a contributing factor, because I identified my
aircraft contrary to the FAR's.
And if you identify yourself to ATC as an ultralight instead of
Experimental, then you open another whole can of worms. ATC provides
separation services to aircraft, not to vehicles.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 11:54 AM 2/11/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
>
>Dennis has hit on one of my pet areas,
>
>Being an old dumb spam can and sewer tube pilot, I hate it when another of
>my kind wrongly state the category of aircraft they are talking about. It
>just shows how little they really know.
>
>But almost as bad as them is the pilot of the other aircraft not correcting
>him. It will clarify the issue and educate the other pilot.
>
>A lot of the confusion can be taken care of by us very small airplane
>operators using the correct phraseology on the radio. As an example: I am
>"Kolb 49KK" when I make all my radio calls at an uncontrolled airfield. When
>I call an ATC facility I am "Kolb 49KK Experimental" for the initial contact
>call and "Kolb 49KK" on all of the rest of the calls.
>
>This procedure meets the requirements of CFR 91.319 and is in line with the
>examples right out of the Aeronautical Information Manual.
>
>As for the pure Ultralight vehicles, the FAA provides no guidance. I assume
>you have to agree on what you will use as a call-sign when you get your
>"prior authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that
>airspace" IAW CFR 103.17.
>
>*************************************
> 91.319 Aircraft having experimental certificates: Operating limitations.
>Excerpt:......
>(3) Notify the control tower of the experimental nature of the aircraft when
>operating the aircraft into or out of airports with operating control
>towers.
>
>
>Radio phraseology used with ATC:
>http://www.faa.gov/ATPubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0402.html#4-2-4
>
>Excerpt from reference above:
>3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or
>manufacturer's name, followed by the digits/letters of the registration
>number. When the aircraft manufacturer's name or model is stated, the prefix
>"N" is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four Alpha.
>
>EXAMPLE-
>1. Bonanza Six Five Five Golf.
>
>2. Breezy Six One Three Romeo Experimental (omit "Experimental" after
>initial contact).
>
> 103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
>No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class
>C, or Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface area
>of Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has prior
>authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
>**************************************
>
>I will sure be glad when I get the Kolbra back in the air and I don't have
>time to write these kind of emails.
>
>
>John Williamson
>Arlington, TX
>
>Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912UL, 708 hours
>http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
>
>do not archive
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
Well then, I'll just identify myself as' Aircraft Small Slow' instead of
Kolb 4653 Yankee.........I'll say ASS 4653 Yankee inbound on 10 mile
final.....hehehehe
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Don't forget the ETA 10 mins. LOL
Bryan Green Do not archive
Kirk Smith wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
>Well then, I'll just identify myself as' Aircraft Small Slow' instead of
>Kolb 4653 Yankee.........I'll say ASS 4653 Yankee inbound on 10 mile
>final.....hehehehe
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi John and Gang
John is correct. It wasn't that many years ago that everyone called a light
plane a Piper Cub; no matter what model it was and every adjustable wrench a
"Crescent" wrench.
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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> Many times in Canada controllers referred to me as UL. No big deal.
>
> Experimental covers a lot of territory, from Warbirds to powered
> parachutes.
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@verizon.net>
Dave and Group,
At the three GA airports I fly into regularly the operators all requested
I fly the GA Pattern altitudes. I generally fly a little high and shorter
legs. Because the GA pilot has almost no visabitity in front of and below
his aircraft and is going much faster I prefer the higher altitudes.
Dan Walter
Palmyra, Pa.
Ultrastar, 10DEW
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Perception of an "Ultralight"
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
<pelletier@cableone.net>
Along with this, it seemed to me that
> since I'm slower, I ought to be lower so I'd fly a 400' AGL Pattern and
> advertise that fact. I've wondered whether this is acceptable or not and
> never have had anyone complain about it...Comments???? (But be nice, I cry
> easily.)
>
> AzDave
>
> Do Not Archive
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Perception of an "Ultralight" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I like your reasoning. Makes a lot of sense & I'll keep it carefully in
mind.............yah, when Vamoose is flying. :-) Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Perception of an "Ultralight"
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Daniel Walter" <worrybear@verizon.net>
>
> Dave and Group,
> At the three GA airports I fly into regularly the operators all
> requested
> I fly the GA Pattern altitudes. I generally fly a little high and shorter
> legs. Because the GA pilot has almost no visabitity in front of and below
> his aircraft and is going much faster I prefer the higher altitudes.
>
> Dan Walter
> Palmyra, Pa.
> Ultrastar, 10DEW
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Perception of an "Ultralight"
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> <pelletier@cableone.net>
> Along with this, it seemed to me that
>> since I'm slower, I ought to be lower so I'd fly a 400' AGL Pattern and
>> advertise that fact. I've wondered whether this is acceptable or not and
>> never have had anyone complain about it...Comments???? (But be nice, I
>> cry
>> easily.)
>>
>> AzDave
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tom & Betty Kuffel are on the mend and on the move.... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Aw, man, where to start ?? Boyd, ol' buddy, yer pickin' on me
again........... :-) It's not even a hangar, since Vamoose lives outside,
but lately, nope, it's not a factory either. Been busy working on boats,
fishing in Baja and nursing a very bad back. Keep saying, "this weekend,
for sure," but it doesn't seem to happen. Always too many other things and
not enuf time. I HAVE got some of the paperwork together for the inspector,
but still quite a bit to go. It'll be good to see Tom & Betty if
they make it this far, but gonna hafta rent a bulldozer to clear enuf junk
outa the way for them to see Vamoose. It's around the corner behind the
boat, which is behind the truck/camper, which is beside............?? I
spoke with them a few weeks ago about their visiting, but never did hear
back, and didn't know for sure what to expect. I'm among those who DO hope
they'll make it to MV this year. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
I'll be leaving on Monday morning for Guerrero Negro, Baja California for my
6th annual whale watching trip, and will return the following Saturday
afternoon. For those not familiar with this 'pilgrimage,' take a look on my
website. It's a terrific journey. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Tom & Betty Kuffel are on the mend and on the move....
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
>
> Last fall my wife and i spent a night with tom and betty while on a trip
> thropugh the area.... and this week we were able to return the favor as
> they stayed with us. as compaired to last fall... they have both
> improved their mobility after their acident ,10 months ago.... we had a
> wonderfull visit and spent the day at a musium in salt lake city...
>
> they will be visiting family and friends down south.... and may even stop
> by big lars aircraft factory on the way home...... now i mentioned
> that using "big lar " and " aircraft factory" in the same sentence was
> quite a streach..... as the term factory would imply that something was
> going on.... "aircraft hanger" may have been a more corect term.
> larry if something "IS" going on and it "IS" indeed a "factory", you
> need to let us in on the progress..... sometimes i think that he is
> secretly working on vamoose without letting us know just so he can suprize
> us at monument valley..... but then i think he is waiting for it to
> become an antique first...... sorry lar.
>
>
> do not archive
>
> boyd
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
Proper name fer Crescent wrench is Mexican speed wrench. Has anyone
seen the logo on TLC(?) where I think a Crescent (or open end?) wrench
is turning a big nut? It's not even all the way on the nut, and may be
flipped wrong way.
Bob N.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
FireFlyers & Ultralighters,
Flying an ultralight vehicle, I have had no problems flying into tower
controlled airports for air shows, airport days, etc. I use a cell
telephone to call the tower before leaving my home airport and give them my
estimated time of arrival and the direction I am coming from. Also I tell
them that I can hear tower radio transmissions but from an open cockpit they
may not be able to understand me. Usually we agree on some point in close
that I am to fly about until they pick me up. Then the tower phases me into
the queue. To keep from holding things up, I fast taxi (fly in ground
effect) until I reach the runway turnoff. I use the cell telephone to call
the tower for departure too. This has worked well for the last three years.
I am more comfortable flying into busy tower controlled airports because
once the tower picks you up all the formal rules of who goes first fall
away. All you have to do is keep your eyes open, listen to the tower and
follow directions.
This year will be the first time I will be able to transmit a good voice
signal. This should make it even easier.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
At 09:58 PM 2/11/2005, you wrote:
>This year will be the first time I will be able to transmit a good voice
>signal. This should make it even easier.
What are you doing different, now, to "transmit a good voice signal" ?
-- Robert
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Bryan Green Do not archive
Bryan/Gang:
In Canada there is a requirement to call 10 miles inbound. Frequently
the controllers will check to see where I am "now", especially if I am
bucking a good headwind.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
I agree with Dan. Most of my flying time has been in conventional aircraft and
a good deal of that at controlled airports in the Los Angeles area. Small aircraft,
and slow, are much easier to see if in the regular pattern, maybe just a
tad higher. You are more visible against a sky background than the ground. I
agree on the shorter bases and fast flying taxis off the runway. Our Kolbs can
operate in a pattern just about like a Cub or some of the other antiques and
no one objects to flying in patterns with them. Another point worth remembering
is to make a departure turn as soon as possible instead of a long slow straight
ahead before departure. Any one waiting to take off behind you will appreciate
that.
Daniel Walter <worrybear@verizon.net> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Daniel
Walter"
Dave and Group,
At the three GA airports I fly into regularly the operators all requested
I fly the GA Pattern altitudes. I generally fly a little high and shorter
legs. Because the GA pilot has almost no visabitity in front of and below
his aircraft and is going much faster I prefer the higher altitudes.
Dan Walter
Palmyra, Pa.
Ultrastar, 10DEW
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Perception of an "Ultralight"
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
Along with this, it seemed to me that
> since I'm slower, I ought to be lower so I'd fly a 400' AGL Pattern and
> advertise that fact. I've wondered whether this is acceptable or not and
> never have had anyone complain about it...Comments???? (But be nice, I cry
> easily.)
>
> AzDave
>
> Do Not Archive
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 10:08 PM 2/11/05 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
>At 09:58 PM 2/11/2005, you wrote:
>>This year will be the first time I will be able to transmit a good voice
>>signal. This should make it even easier.
>
>What are you doing different, now, to "transmit a good voice signal" ?
>
> -- Robert
>
Robert,
I adapted an electret (condenser) throat microphone to use with my hand held
radio that I strap to my left leg. A description can be seen at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly110.html
The latest version of my avionics system can be seen at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly117.html
I am using a version of Boyd Young's "cheep antenna". I have run some coax
along the left upper longeron and where it hits the nose cone the outer braid
and insulator have been stripped for the final 23.5 inches. This bare wire is
placed between the leading edge of the windshield and under the rubber
gasket material that seals the windshield to the nose cone. At the top of
the nose cone, the wire is brought straight back on the outer surface of the
windshield. At this point all I know is it is better than the rubber duck
antenna I had been using. I can crank up the engine and talk to the FBO and
they can understand me and they hear no engine or prop noise. I have only
flown a couple of times since I mounted this antenna, and I have not been
able to verify that the FBO or other aircraft can hear me at altitude.
Waiting for warmer weather and when testing will not interfere with other
aircraft in the area.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
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Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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