---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/17/05: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:09 AM - ELTs (robert bean) 2. 09:11 AM - Re: ELTs (David M. Lehman) 3. 09:47 AM - Re: ELTs (James, Ken) 4. 09:56 AM - Re: ELTs (David M. Lehman) 5. 10:35 AM - Re: Back in the Air (ghaley@wt.net) 6. 10:37 AM - (ghaley@wt.net) 7. 01:17 PM - Re: (John Williamson) 8. 02:33 PM - Re: ELTs (Denny Rowe) 9. 02:48 PM - Re: ELTs (Bob N.) 10. 05:06 PM - 912 Radiator Locations (Kolbdriver) 11. 05:22 PM - Re: 912 Radiator Locations (John Williamson) 12. 05:26 PM - Re: 912 Radiator Locations (John Hauck) 13. 07:52 PM - corvair (woody) 14. 08:01 PM - Re: ELTs (alananpat) 15. 08:11 PM - Re: corvair (John Hauck) 16. 09:21 PM - Re: corvair (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:34 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: ELTs --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Kolbers: observing a slow mail day, a little opinion/input on ELTs is being solicited. I'm too lazy at the moment to consult the FARs. I know that while in my test period I don't need one (probably trigger that baby quick with some good sudden drops) but wonder how many in the group actually have one installed in their registered plane. My brother gave me a new ameri-king AK450, seems pretty light without the batteries. I do like the frugality of the D flashlight batteries it takes but hate to stick yet more junk on board. -BB do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:24 AM PST US From: "David M. Lehman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELTs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David M. Lehman" BB... Are you two place?... Single place aren't required to have an ELT... DVD --- robert bean wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > > Kolbers: observing a slow mail day, a little > opinion/input on ELTs > is being solicited. I'm too lazy at the moment to > consult the FARs. > I know that while in my test period I don't need one > (probably > trigger that baby quick with some good sudden drops) > but wonder > how many in the group actually have one installed in > their registered > plane. My brother gave me a new ameri-king AK450, > seems pretty > light without the batteries. I do like the frugality > of the D flashlight > batteries it takes but hate to stick yet more junk > on board. > -BB do not archive > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > ===== do not archive __________________________________ http://my.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:24 AM PST US From: "James, Ken" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ELTs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" I plan on a ELT , and it's everyone's choice but I bet the family of the KitFox that went down last month wish he had it aboard. Took them a month to find the plane even after a week long search. Ken Just food for thought and not preaching to anyone :-) -----Original Message----- From: David M. Lehman [mailto:kolbypilot@yahoo.com] Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELTs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David M. Lehman" BB... Are you two place?... Single place aren't required to have an ELT... DVD --- robert bean wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > > Kolbers: observing a slow mail day, a little > opinion/input on ELTs > is being solicited. I'm too lazy at the moment to > consult the FARs. > I know that while in my test period I don't need one > (probably > trigger that baby quick with some good sudden drops) > but wonder > how many in the group actually have one installed in > their registered > plane. My brother gave me a new ameri-king AK450, > seems pretty > light without the batteries. I do like the frugality > of the D flashlight > batteries it takes but hate to stick yet more junk > on board. > -BB do not archive > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > ===== do not archive __________________________________ http://my.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:10 AM PST US From: "David M. Lehman" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: ELTs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David M. Lehman" Ken... Kind of like parachutes, some people wouldn't think of flying without one... DVD --- "James, Ken" wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" > > > I plan on a ELT , and it's everyone's choice but I > bet the family of the > KitFox that went down last month wish he had it > aboard. Took them a month to > find the plane even after a week long search. > > Ken > > Just food for thought and not preaching to anyone > :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: David M. Lehman [mailto:kolbypilot@yahoo.com] > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELTs > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David M. Lehman" > > > BB... > > Are you two place?... Single place aren't required > to > have an ELT... > > DVD > > > --- robert bean wrote: > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean > > > > > > Kolbers: observing a slow mail day, a little > > opinion/input on ELTs > > is being solicited. I'm too lazy at the moment to > > consult the FARs. > > I know that while in my test period I don't need > one > > (probably > > trigger that baby quick with some good sudden > drops) > > but wonder > > how many in the group actually have one installed > in > > their registered > > plane. My brother gave me a new ameri-king AK450, > > seems pretty > > light without the batteries. I do like the > frugality > > of the D flashlight > > batteries it takes but hate to stick yet more junk > > on board. > > -BB do not archive > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > do not archive > > > > __________________________________ > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > ===== do not archive __________________________________ http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:01 AM PST US From: ghaley@wt.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Back in the Air --> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net JH Sure am hoping you will fly so I can tag along. Gary > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > > > Four more hours in my flight test area and I will be > ready to start visiting > > again. > > > > > > John Williamson > > Hi John W/Gang: > > That is good news. > > If you think you can stuff that Kolbra in Gantt > International Airport, I'll send you the coordinates. > > Still trying to decide on flying the MKIII to Sun and Fun > or pulling the 5th wheel. Both have their advantages and > disadvantages. > > Less than two months to make a decision. > > Take care, > > john h > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > the Matronics Forums. > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list _-> Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list > ============= > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:21 AM PST US From: ghaley@wt.net 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header --> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net John, Since I have a personal attachment to your Kolb now...glad to see it flying again. Can I expect another visit? Gary ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:57 PM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: RE: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Hi Gary, I have to attend a CFI refresher course this weekend, but hope to have a nice day next week to make it down to visit. Do you a better day than any other next week? John W. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:16 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELTs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > > do not archive > > Bob, That AK-450 is a good unit, put it in there and don't forget to change the batteries now and than. I made a simple bracket to mount mine to the boom tube behind the passenger seat. Denny Rowe, Mk-3 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:53 PM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELTs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." If you are N numbered and have an ELT, you gotta put in new batts every 24 mos...I think. I had to fer years. Even if you only test it now and then...and only during the five mins after the hour...not fer the whole 5 mins. The AK is a good box..I installed many in GA. Its good that it uses reg alky D cells, and not the Expensive paks that many ELTs gotta have. By the way, I use so-called expired ELT batts of many kinds to pwr cameras, radios, GPS. Too good to throw away. Bob N. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:38 PM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: Kolb-List: 912 Radiator Locations --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" Where have you 912 owners located the radiator when installed on a Mark III or any Kolb. I just want some opinions to sort through before I mount mine. Steven G. BTW John H., John W., John B, and Gary, I will be able to keep up if I ever have the opportunity to join ya'll on another trip. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:22:25 PM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 912 Radiator Locations --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Hi Steven G, Mark and I have installed the coolant radiator in frond of the engine and the oil cooler of the rear engine mounts on our Kolbras. It makes for a very neat package. Hope we can get together sometime before the next Kolb Homecoming! John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912UL, 711 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:34 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 Radiator Locations --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Mark III or any Kolb. I just want some opinions to sort through before I mount mine. | | Steven G. Steven G/Gang: My radiator was the first on a MKIII. Mounted it with the oil cooler piggy backed on it under the engine and hung on the rear of the engine mounts. Never had a problem since day one, a long time ago. Look forward to having you and all the rest of the gang joining up for another flight equal to or better than the one we had to Kitty Hawk. That was a blast!!! john h ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:41 PM PST US From: "woody" Subject: Kolb-List: corvair --> Kolb-List message posted by: "woody" I recently had the oportunity to listen to William Wynn talk about Corvair conversions. I have been interested in this conversion for quite awhile and jumped at the chance to meet him and find out more. If anyone has this oportunity take it. He is very knowledgeable about all things aviation and technical. I was surprised. I thought he would just be a southern hick selling a plans book. He is a wealth of information on engines and props and not just book learning. he has gone out and found the answers through experimentation and real life situations. Best thing about this is that I think a corvair would fit on the Kolb. He claims that the Corvair will weigh about 30 lbs more than a realisticly weighed 912. That extra 30 lb is almost over the cg so should not be a major problem. Don't put down the corvair because of Ralph Naders book. It is an excellent engine and can be bought ready to install for $6500. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:25 PM PST US From: "alananpat" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELTs --> Kolb-List message posted by: "alananpat" If you are using an ELT that uses "D" cell batteries, you only need to change them by the date printed on the battery. This is a good savings in comparison to those with a special battery pack that requires changing every 24 months. See ya! AlananPat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: ELTs > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." > > If you are N numbered and have an ELT, you gotta put in new batts every > 24 mos...I think. I had to fer years. Even if you only test it now and > then...and only during the five mins after the hour...not fer the whole > 5 mins. > > The AK is a good box..I installed many in GA. Its good that it uses reg > alky D cells, and not the Expensive paks that many ELTs gotta have. By > the way, I use so-called expired ELT batts of many kinds to pwr cameras, > radios, GPS. Too good to throw away. > > Bob N. > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:14 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: corvair --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | He claims that the Corvair will | weigh about 30 lbs more than a realisticly weighed 912. Woody Hi Woody/Gang: How much does this guy think a 912 weighs? This url indicates his Corvair will weigh: "It will have an electric starter and a small alternator and when so equipped it will weigh 225 pounds." http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/corvair.html Here is a spec sheet from The Corvair Authority, William Wynn: http://www.flycorvair.com/corvair.html#Engine%20Specs Seems the VW, Corvair, Verner, Jabiru folks all compare their stuff to the 912. Sooner or later they will get it right. Everyone knows the 912 all up weight is 75 lbs. ;-) john h PS: Last time I made a comment about a Corvair engine the preacher fired off a firey blast at me. In order to protect myself from his wrath and the wrath of others, I shall reserve comment on the Corvair and all other engines I know nothing about. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:55 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: corvair --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike No problem, I apologized publicly for that occasion, and am willing to do it again. Having owned and enjoyed more than half a dozen Corvairs over the years, (and having a box of old trophies up in the attic from racing them) was no excuse to be rude to a friend. Shalom. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive At 10:11 PM 2/17/2005 -0600, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > >| He claims that the Corvair will >| weigh about 30 lbs more than a realisticly weighed 912. Woody > >Hi Woody/Gang: > >How much does this guy think a 912 weighs? > >This url indicates his Corvair will weigh: "It will have an electric >starter and a small alternator and when so equipped it will weigh 225 >pounds." > >http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/corvair.html > >Here is a spec sheet from The Corvair Authority, William Wynn: > >http://www.flycorvair.com/corvair.html#Engine%20Specs > >Seems the VW, Corvair, Verner, Jabiru folks all compare their stuff to >the 912. Sooner or later they will get it right. Everyone knows the >912 all up weight is 75 lbs. ;-) > >john h > >PS: Last time I made a comment about a Corvair engine the preacher >fired off a firey blast at me. In order to protect myself from his >wrath and the wrath of others, I shall reserve comment on the Corvair >and all other engines I know nothing about. > >