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1. 05:12 AM - Re: Safety Pins (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com)
2. 05:46 AM - Firestar Gear Leg Sockets (John Hauck)
3. 08:08 AM - new Kolb web page (flykolb)
4. 08:31 AM - Re: new Kolb web page (John Hauck)
5. 08:57 AM - Re: new Kolb web page (flykolb)
6. 12:47 PM - Re: Q (Kirk Smith)
7. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: Q Radio Shack Trucker Antenna (John Hauck)
8. 01:22 PM - Re: Re: Q (bryan green)
9. 02:00 PM - Re: Re: Q (Kirk Smith)
10. 02:11 PM - Re: Firestar Gear Leg (Mike Matuszczak)
11. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Q (ray anderson)
12. 02:32 PM - Re: Firestar Gear Leg ,Rt main spar,prop :( (Mike Matuszczak)
13. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: Q (pollus)
14. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: Q Radio Shack Trucker Antenna (bryan green)
15. 02:49 PM - Re: Re: Q (bryan green)
16. 02:55 PM - Re: Firestar Gear Leg ,Rt main spar,prop :( (Kirk Smith)
17. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: Q (Kirk Smith)
18. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Q (Steve Garvelink)
19. 03:12 PM - Antennae (russ kinne)
20. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: Re: Q ()
21. 04:27 PM - Re: antenna (Richard Pike)
22. 04:28 PM - Re: antenna (Richard Pike)
23. 04:31 PM - Re: Re: Re: Q (Kirk Smith)
24. 04:47 PM - Re: antenna (Kirk Smith)
25. 04:48 PM - Re: Re: Q (russ kinne)
26. 08:12 PM - Re: Firestar Gear Leg ,Rt main spar,prop :( (HShack@aol.com)
27. 08:39 PM - Re: Firestar Gear Leg ,Rt main spar,prop :( (HShack@aol.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com
Ralph,
Where do you get them from???? I called the company and they don't
sell
small quantities. They told me hardware stores and Fastenall carry them.
Right!!! Hit all the big names, including Home Depot and they don't have
them. Local Fastenall doesn't carry them, but can order from Phoenix =
$50.00 minimum. Went to a boat place and they don't have them, but do
have
something similar, but only on special order. Ordered two @ $2.00 each to
see if they'll work. Any suggestions?
AzDave
Comrades in defying gravity, McMaster-Carr sells Cotter Rings and Split
Rings in various sizes in SST or plated for $5.00 to $9.00 per 50 or 100
depending on size and material. Check them out!
The Flying Farmer
Hey wait a minute, where have you been Mr Flying Farmer, we haven't heard
from you in a while? Well, this past fall I "hard landed" my Firestar and
bent the landing leg sockets. So I've been busy repairing that mess and
getting ready to hit the skies this spring.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Firestar Gear Leg Sockets |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Well, this past fall I "hard landed" my Firestar and
| bent the landing leg sockets.
Hi Dwight/All:
I am guessing the gear legs on the Origianal Firestar were inserted to
about the halfway point in the gear leg socket. I sheared a gear leg
socket on my Firestar while landing from a high stall. Took out the
entire tube cluster at the bottom of the socket. Was a real mess. To
solve this problem, the next set of gear legs I made were inserted all
the way into the socket until they bottomed out at the intersection.
This distributed the load all along the socket and never had that
problem again.
john h
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| Subject: | new Kolb web page |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
Morning Kolbers
I just uploaded my new web page. It's just a beginning and doesn't compare to some
of the others by Kolb owners but it's a start!
I will be adding to it as fast as I can and hope it gets better and better. One
interesting feature is the use of videos which can also be added to emails as
well as to web pages.
Best viewed with Internet Explorer. http://jimskolb.com
Jim
Mark III
Charlotte, NC
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| Subject: | Re: new Kolb web page |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
|
| Jim
Hi Jim/Gang:
Looks like a great beginning. The video isa novel idea.
Please publish the coordinates for your airstrip. I haven't flown in
the Charlotte area in many years, but one never knows.
One of these days I want to get over that way, visit you, and also
visit my friends at the JAARS compound and airstrip in Waxhaw, NC.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: new Kolb web page |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "flykolb" <flykolb@carolina.rr.com>
John,
Thanks for the encouragement.
The field I use is:
FAA Identifier: 4NC8
Lat/Long: 35-25-20.5040N / 080-37-14.2430W
35-25.341733N / 080-37.237383W
35.4223622 / -80.6206231
(estimated)
Elevation: 600 ft. / 183 m (estimated)
Variation: 05W (1985)
From city: 1 mile SE of CONCORD, NC
Zip code: 28027
It's a grass strip about 2000' long. Usual approach is from the south and
land on runway 33 but runway 15 is as good if the wind favors it. Everyone
welcome. Gas station and K-Mart nearby. Also for NASCAR fans, it is near
Lowe's Speedway. Just be aware of the Charlotte Class B and the Concord
Airport's airspace.
Lots of other grass strips near by too.
JAARS is a great place!
I welcome all kolbers to stop by.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: new Kolb web page
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | Best viewed with Internet Explorer. http://jimskolb.com
>
> Hi Jim/Gang:
>
> Looks like a great beginning. The video isa novel idea.
>
> Please publish the coordinates for your airstrip. I haven't flown in
> the Charlotte area in many years, but one never knows.
>
> One of these days I want to get over that way, visit you, and also
> visit my friends at the JAARS compound and airstrip in Waxhaw, NC.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
"I have a friend that has used one on his Challenger for years with his
Icom and it works great."
Wow! That's interesting. I'll fire a letter off to Icom informing them that it's
ok to use CB radio antennas with their aircraft radios. They ought to be surprised.....
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Q Radio Shack Trucker Antenna |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
his
| Icom and it works great."
What is the length of the antenna and the length of the coax?
That has a lot to do with how well a radio transmits. They'll receive
on a coat hanger wire.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Once you trade them money it becomes your radio and they probably don't
care if your not trying to warranty it. Now we have both made a smart
ass remark. :-)
Apparently there is a problem with this practice, so if you would be so
kind as to share it I will shut up listen and perhaps learn something.
Do not archive
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 377 BRS 19LBG
Kirk Smith wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
>"I have a friend that has used one on his Challenger for years with his
>Icom and it works great."
>
>Wow! That's interesting. I'll fire a letter off to Icom informing them that it's
ok to use CB radio antennas with their aircraft radios. They ought to be
surprised.....
>
>Do not archive
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> Apparently there is a problem with this practice, so if you would be so
> kind as to share it I will shut up listen and perhaps learn something.
A CB radio oscillates at 27,000,000 cycles per second. An aircraft radio
oscillates at over 120,000,000 cycles per second. These cylces or pulses
are in the form of current being fed to the antenna. The source of the
current is the radio's final amplifier ( Transistors) . These current pulses
go out the coax into the antenna , reach the end of the antenna and bounce
back. This takes a certain amount of time. The trick is to cut the antenna
to the proper length so that the pulse coming back hits a new pulse from the
amplifier at the right place in the antenna so that a phenomenon called
electromagnetic radiation occurs. You want this to occur in the antenna and
not elsewhere in the system. The length of the antenna is critical. If it's
wrong the energy that should be converted to radiation will be converted
into excess heat which will damage the amplifier in the radio. A similar
analogy would be the tuned pipe on a 2 stroke engine. The antenna for a CB
radio frequencies has to be much longer than one for aircraft radio
frequencies as there is more time between the pulses with a CB.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Gear Leg |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Matuszczak" <mmatuszczak@cfl.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Gear Leg Sockets
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>
> Hi Dwight/All:
>
> I am guessing the gear legs on the Origianal Firestar were inserted to
> about the halfway point in the gear leg socket. I sheared a gear leg
> socket on my Firestar while landing from a high stall. Took out the
> entire tube cluster at the bottom of the socket. Was a real mess. To
> solve this problem, the next set of gear legs I made were inserted all
> the way into the socket until they bottomed out at the intersection.
> This distributed the load all along the socket and never had that
> problem again.
>
> john h
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: ray anderson <rsanoa@yahoo.com>
Cut the antenna to 22 inches and you will be in the ball park for the frequencies
we use most. Stick a bead or something on the cut off end for safety.
Kirk Smith <snuffy@usol.com> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith"
> Apparently there is a problem with this practice, so if you would be so
> kind as to share it I will shut up listen and perhaps learn something.
A CB radio oscillates at 27,000,000 cycles per second. An aircraft radio
oscillates at over 120,000,000 cycles per second. These cylces or pulses
are in the form of current being fed to the antenna. The source of the
current is the radio's final amplifier ( Transistors) . These current pulses
go out the coax into the antenna , reach the end of the antenna and bounce
back. This takes a certain amount of time. The trick is to cut the antenna
to the proper length so that the pulse coming back hits a new pulse from the
amplifier at the right place in the antenna so that a phenomenon called
electromagnetic radiation occurs. You want this to occur in the antenna and
not elsewhere in the system. The length of the antenna is critical. If it's
wrong the energy that should be converted to radiation will be converted
into excess heat which will damage the amplifier in the radio. A similar
analogy would be the tuned pipe on a 2 stroke engine. The antenna for a CB
radio frequencies has to be much longer than one for aircraft radio
frequencies as there is more time between the pulses with a CB.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Gear Leg ,Rt main spar,prop :( |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Matuszczak" <mmatuszczak@cfl.rr.com>
I did a little more than the gear yesterday. Did a base leg that was in a
brisk downwind. Lost lift and the right gear, rt. wing, prop, and bent the
main cage. The airport crew on the scene shook their heads and asked, are
you sure your are not hurt. I stated quickly, sure I am. I killed my bird
and dinged my pride. Physically though, I was unscratched. One TOUGH little
bird. Flying time will now be fixing time.
Lessons learned: Downwind IS downwind, not base with a downwind!!!
MMatuszczak ,Was an FSII 400hrs
Palm Coast, FL.
PS anyone have a few extra parts to spare.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Gear Leg Sockets
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>
> Hi Dwight/All:
>
> I am guessing the gear legs on the Origianal Firestar were inserted to
> about the halfway point in the gear leg socket. I sheared a gear leg
> socket on my Firestar while landing from a high stall. Took out the
> entire tube cluster at the bottom of the socket. Was a real mess. To
> solve this problem, the next set of gear legs I made were inserted all
> the way into the socket until they bottomed out at the intersection.
> This distributed the load all along the socket and never had that
> problem again.
>
> john h
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
It probably has to do with something Radio Engineers call Standing Wave
Ratio, which is a number that says something about the amount of energy
that is not transmitted by the antenna, but is reflected back towards
the transmitter.
If energy is reflected, it diminishes your transmitted power. If to
much energy is reflected, it can fry your transmitter. So a good SWR is
essential.
For the optimal Standing Wave Ratio, the size of the antenna has to
match the wavelength of the transmitted signal. A good dipole antenna
(which is our case, only the second pole of the dipole is virtual,
hence we need a groundplane) is exactly 1/2 or 1/4 of the wavelength.
CB radio's work on a different frequency than airband radio's, and so
they require different sizes of antennas.
So you could say: buy that cheep CB antenna and cut it to the right
size. The point with CB antenna's is that they have to be so long that
they make coils in it (sometimes you see a thick section in the middle,
but sometimes it's in the base). Those coils spoil our fun. So I would
say stay clear of CB-antenna's.
Every radio amateur has a SWR-meter with which he can measure the
proper matching of his antenna. If you are not shure about your
antenna, or is your power output lower than expected, ask one of them
for help. They usually are nice guys...
Pollus
Op 24-feb-05 om 22:21 heeft bryan green het volgende geschreven:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> Once you trade them money it becomes your radio and they probably don't
> care if your not trying to warranty it. Now we have both made a smart
> ass remark. :-)
> Apparently there is a problem with this practice, so if you would be so
> kind as to share it I will shut up listen and perhaps learn something.
> Do not archive
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
> Firestar 377 BRS 19LBG
>
> Kirk Smith wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>>
>> "I have a friend that has used one on his Challenger for years with
>> his
>> Icom and it works great."
>>
>> Wow! That's interesting. I'll fire a letter off to Icom informing
>> them that it's ok to use CB radio antennas with their aircraft
>> radios. They ought to be surprised.....
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Q Radio Shack Trucker Antenna |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
I don't have that info right now John but will get it this weekend and post.
Do not archive
Bryan Green Elgin SC
John Hauck wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>his
>| Icom and it works great."
>
>
>What is the length of the antenna and the length of the coax?
>
>That has a lot to do with how well a radio transmits. They'll receive
>on a coat hanger wire.
>
>john h
>
>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
A CB radio oscillates at 27,000,000 cycles per second. An aircraft radio
oscillates at over 120,000,000 cycles per second.
Thanks for the info Kirk I have learned something. Do not archive
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Kirk Smith wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Gear Leg ,Rt main spar,prop :( |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> PS anyone have a few extra parts to spare.
I know a guy in Canada that is selling an entire Firestar 2 that needs some
rebuilding but the cage and gear are fine on it.
Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
> Thanks for the info Kirk I have learned something. Do not archive
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
Your quite welcome. Glad I could contribute something. :o)
Do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
From SRGLINK(Steve Garvelink) simply put it is critical that your
antenna matches your transmitter. You will eventually blow your final
if it is not. The solution is very simple you could make a 1/4 wave
antenna and mount it on your plane. They are very simple to construct I
could send you a diagram and the proper length. We build them for our
440 146 mhz (70 cm and 2 meter} ham radios all the time. Also several
antenna manufactures make antennas for this band and they are very
reasonable.
Srglink
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pollus
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Q
--> Kolb-List message posted by: pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
It probably has to do with something Radio Engineers call Standing Wave
Ratio, which is a number that says something about the amount of energy
that is not transmitted by the antenna, but is reflected back towards
the transmitter.
If energy is reflected, it diminishes your transmitted power. If to
much energy is reflected, it can fry your transmitter. So a good SWR is
essential.
For the optimal Standing Wave Ratio, the size of the antenna has to
match the wavelength of the transmitted signal. A good dipole antenna
(which is our case, only the second pole of the dipole is virtual,
hence we need a groundplane) is exactly 1/2 or 1/4 of the wavelength.
CB radio's work on a different frequency than airband radio's, and so
they require different sizes of antennas.
So you could say: buy that cheep CB antenna and cut it to the right
size. The point with CB antenna's is that they have to be so long that
they make coils in it (sometimes you see a thick section in the middle,
but sometimes it's in the base). Those coils spoil our fun. So I would
say stay clear of CB-antenna's.
Every radio amateur has a SWR-meter with which he can measure the
proper matching of his antenna. If you are not shure about your
antenna, or is your power output lower than expected, ask one of them
for help. They usually are nice guys...
Pollus
Op 24-feb-05 om 22:21 heeft bryan green het volgende geschreven:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> Once you trade them money it becomes your radio and they probably
don't
> care if your not trying to warranty it. Now we have both made a smart
> ass remark. :-)
> Apparently there is a problem with this practice, so if you would be
so
> kind as to share it I will shut up listen and perhaps learn something.
> Do not archive
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
> Firestar 377 BRS 19LBG
>
> Kirk Smith wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>>
>> "I have a friend that has used one on his Challenger for years with
>> his
>> Icom and it works great."
>>
>> Wow! That's interesting. I'll fire a letter off to Icom informing
>> them that it's ok to use CB radio antennas with their aircraft
>> radios. They ought to be surprised.....
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Doesn't anyone use an SWR meter anymore to adjust antenna length &
'feedback'?
Radio Shack even used to carry them.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: <williamdgleason@bellsouth.net>
>
> From: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
> Date: 2005/02/24 Thu PM 05:48:35 EST
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Q
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
>
> A CB radio oscillates at 27,000,000 cycles per second. An aircraft radio
> oscillates at over 120,000,000 cycles per second.
>
>
> Thanks for the info Kirk I have learned something. Do not archive
> Bryan Green Elgin SC
>
> Kirk Smith wrote:
>
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> >
> >
> >I think the speed of light devided by the transmitter's frequency equals the
length of the antenna
needed for best performance. This length can be cut in half or devided by 4 if
needed, but the
performance will suffer.
Dale Gleason in SC.
> >>
> >>
> >
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> >
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Here is a home made antenna made with RS parts that cost less than $10 and
works great.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Probably would have been better with the link in it... duh
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg9.htm
Here is a home made antenna made with RS parts that cost less than $10 and
works great.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> >
> > >I think the speed of light devided by the transmitter's frequency
equals the length of the antenna
> needed for best performance. This length can be cut in half or devided by
4 if needed, but the
> performance will suffer.
It figures.......
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
> Here is a home made antenna made with RS parts that cost less than $10 and
> works great
That's a great little antenna Richard and most people couldn't tell the
difference between it and the best mobile antenna on the market in
performance. Another good one is the one Boyd sugested called a coaxial
dipole which is also super cheap to make. It has been used for years and
years in the amateur radio mileau with much success..........
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
I think you forgot to divide by the coefficient of kadeeder --
On Feb 24, 2005, at 7:38 PM, Kirk Smith wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirk Smith" <snuffy@usol.com>
>
>
>>>
>>>> I think the speed of light devided by the transmitter's frequency
> equals the length of the antenna
>> needed for best performance. This length can be cut in half or
>> devided by
> 4 if needed, but the
>> performance will suffer.
>
>
> It figures.......
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Gear Leg ,Rt main spar,prop :( |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 2/24/2005 5:33:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mmatuszczak@cfl.rr.com writes:
I did a little more than the gear yesterday. Did a base leg that was in a
brisk downwind. Lost lift and the right gear,
Was your FS II kit produced prior to '97? If so, your gear legs may be the
short ones which can break the gear leg socket [like mine did] pretty easily.
The leg should go into the socket about 5 or 6" past the bolt hole [more than
an inch or two].
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Gear Leg ,Rt main spar,prop :( |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com
In a message dated 2/24/2005 5:33:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mmatuszczak@cfl.rr.com writes:
MMatuszczak ,Was an FSII 400hrs
Palm Coast, FL.
PS anyone have a few extra parts to spare.
I will soon have a professionally rebuilt cage available.
I am at Trenton, SC.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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