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1. 02:49 AM - Re: Spats... (jerb)
2. 03:12 AM - Re: safety rings (jerb)
3. 03:44 AM - Re: Floats (jerb)
4. 03:53 AM - Re: Pictures of my new Nose Skid Hoop (jerb)
5. 06:16 AM - Re: Pictures of my new Nose Skid Hoop (John Hauck)
6. 07:47 AM - cracked windscreens (b young)
7. 10:20 AM - Re: Spats... (PATRICK LADD)
8. 11:11 AM - Spades (Domenic Perez)
9. 11:31 AM - Re: Spats... (jerb)
10. 12:12 PM - Re: Spades (John Hauck)
11. 12:21 PM - Re: Floats (N27SB@aol.com)
12. 12:23 PM - Xtra/Jabiru 2200 (Silver Fern Microlights Ltd)
13. 12:54 PM - Re: Spats... (robert bean)
14. 01:06 PM - Re: Spats... (John Hauck)
15. 02:14 PM - Regular View (Mike Pierzina)
16. 06:01 PM - Re: Spats... (Larry Bourne)
17. 07:18 PM - Radio shack antenna (bryan green)
18. 07:35 PM - New engine (bryan green)
19. 07:51 PM - Re: New engine (John Hauck)
20. 08:13 PM - big hop (robert bean)
21. 08:26 PM - Re: Gaffer's Tape (Jerry Curtin)
22. 08:41 PM - Re: Gaffer's Tape (John Hauck)
23. 10:22 PM - Re: Spades (possums)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Wheel pants fully cover the wheel.
Spats cover the front part of the wheel but not the entire wheel to add
streamlining.
Spades are the flat blade like device hanging down on the pictures of the
Titan or often seen on aerobatic aircraft, they primary purpose is to
reduce control input forces.
Counter balances are used to balance a control surface to with specified
design limits - can be full to some percentage of full like 60% - I believe
there used on the Kolb Mark-III and maybe the FireStar II.
jerb
At 11:09 AM 3/1/05 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>
>Oh, OK. I stand corrected. Thanks Lee.
>Dale Sellers
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Creech, Lee (Local Govt)" <Lee.Creech@ky.gov>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Spats...
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Creech, Lee (Local Govt)"
> > <Lee.Creech@ky.gov>
> >
> > Methinks those are "spades" . . . They aerodynamically balance the
> > ailerons.
> >
> >
> > Lee
> > Firestar II
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dale Sellers [mailto:dsel1@bellsouth.net]
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spats...
> >
> >
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > I was under the impression that spats on an airplane are those things used
> > on aerobatic planes that are attached to the outer ends on the ailerons
> > and
> > hang down. I'm not sure of their function but I'm pretty sure that's what
> > they're called.
> >
> > Maybe I'm wrong, happens all the time.
> >
> > Dale Sellers
> > Georgia UltraStar
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pollus" <pollus@fornerod.nl>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Spats...
> >
> >
> >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
> >>
> >> I was just wondering: those "Spats" absolutely look racey, but do they
> >> really benefit the flight characteristics at our moderate airspeeds? I
> >> mean in terms of detectable schange of crusespeed or fuel consumption?
> >>
> >> Op 28-feb-05 om 21:16 heeft PATRICK LADD het volgende geschreven:
> >>
> >>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> >>> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Bryan,
> >>> <<, what are spats?>>
> >>>
> >>> I had no idea that anyone called them anything else, but then I am
> >>> incredibly oldfashioned and tend to continue to use out of date words
> >>> and phrases long after everyone else has moved on. They are the
> >>> streamlined mud
> >>> collectors that you fit over your planes wheels.
> >>>
> >>> One of the 30`s Miles aircraft (the Hawk?) had a non retractable
> >>> but fully enclosed streamlined undercarriage which was described as
> >>> `trousered`.
> >>>
> >>> I wondered after I replied to your query if it was the phrase `swings
> >>> and roundabouts` which required explanation, considering that you
> >>> don`t have
> >>> `roundabouts` only `carousels`, but I must have guessed wrongly
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Pat
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> do not archive
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: safety rings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Circular (Ring Ding) Pins - try the link below.
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/ak/Fasteners/Tacks_Brads_and_Pins/Circular_Pins_Ring_Ding_fam/index.html
We have used the smaller key chain type spring rings but having seen what
these are they look like they would be easier to put on and take off.
jerb
At 07:38 AM 2/28/05 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Steve Kroll <muso2080@yahoo.com>
>
>List,
>
>Somebody recently talked about having bought 100 circular cotters to
>replace the original safety pins that came with the kits. Who was that
>and, do you have any left? I'm having a heck of a time trying to locate
>anything like these locally.
>
>Steve Mk-2 503
>do not archive
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Why not go to Sun & Fun and pick up your float rating the week before or
after. Used to be a well known school, Brown I believe it was) that
operated out of Winter Haven just next door to Lakeland. You can do it in
a couple days if weather if find. Used to take about 5 hours of flight
time & check ride.
Floats are fun but gassing up a plane can be a challenge, pumping out leaky
floats makes it less enjoyable (I didn't fly at Browns) and no brakes can
make for excitement when approaching a dock. Lesson I - sailing.
jerb
At 11:09 PM 2/28/05 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
>
> I just received the prototype amphibious floats today that Kolb
> had on their factory plane at Osk this last summer. I also received my
> new 912S. It was snowing pretty hard and was cold so I didn't uncrate
> they. I'm about ready to put on the long handles and the polar suit and
> go out to the hanger and uncrate the floats. Worst than a kid at
> Christmas. Had a nice talk with Steve Boetto Sat.(Float designer) Since
> the floats and plane together have never been on water I will have a
> little testing to do. Really looking foward to this summer looks like it
> will be a busy one.
> Looks like I'm going to have to get my sea plane rating this
> summer. Does any one know of some one around the Kansas,Oklahoma or
> Missouri area that they would recommend.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Pictures of my new Nose Skid Hoop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
No, no, John H, that not a hoop, it a tie down ring. Can't you tell. A
big mother at that.
How high can you raise the tail before it drags and will it impact loading
or unloading off a trailer? That's just about what the FireFly needs.
jerb.
At 06:13 PM 2/27/05 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> |
>| How's it look???
>| Gotta Fly...
>|
>Mike in MN
>
>
>Hi Mike/Gang:
>
>Well....................sorta like a giant basket ball hoop sliced in
>half and turned sideways.
>
>john h
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Pictures of my new Nose Skid Hoop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Morning jerb/Gang:
OK. Tie down ring. Bigggg tie down rope.
john h
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Subject: | cracked windscreens |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
weld on a tab and use a bolt...... do not tighten it too tight as the constant
pressure will cause it to crack.... or wrap the tube with an adel clamp
and then bolt the windscreen to that. another option keep the vibration spread
over the entire surface instead of localizing on the rivit points is to put
a very small bead of silicone between the windscreen and tubing.
boyd
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
<< I believe they were the white things gentlemen wore around their shoes
and ankles back in the olden days>>
Hi,
absolutely right. Also galoshes. You can see where the use of the word to
describe a wheel cover came from. `Pants` they aint.
You can see spats in action in many old Fred Astaire films. You know, down
at the talking picture show.
Cheers
Pat
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Domenic Perez" <perezmdomenic@plateautel.net>
Has anyone tried spades on the ailerons of a Firestar II or other Kolb to lighten
control pressures? I've heard of chord narrowing to achieve the same thing,
but spades seem simpler and easier to adjust for fine-tuning. Of course, there
is always more to everything than meets the eye. Mine are kind of heavy.
M. Domenic Perez
Vaughn, NM
FS II
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
At 04:54 AM 3/2/05 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
>Wheel pants fully cover the wheel.
>
>Spats cover the front part of the wheel but not the entire wheel to add
>streamlining.
OOP's ' - Spats that should have been cover the rear part of the wheel to
streamline it. Weren't they things worn by the past military over the
ankles that partly cover the top of the boot and the lower part of the pant
leg - WWI or WWII. Bob N should know about those things......8
)
jerb
>Spades are the flat blade like device hanging down on the pictures of the
>Titan or often seen on aerobatic aircraft, they primary purpose is to
>reduce control input forces.
>
>Counter balances are used to balance a control surface to with specified
>design limits - can be full to some percentage of full like 60% - I believe
>there used on the Kolb Mark-III and maybe the FireStar II.
>jerb
>
>
>At 11:09 AM 3/1/05 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
> >
> >Oh, OK. I stand corrected. Thanks Lee.
> >Dale Sellers
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Creech, Lee (Local Govt)" <Lee.Creech@ky.gov>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Spats...
> >
> >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Creech, Lee (Local Govt)"
> > > <Lee.Creech@ky.gov>
> > >
> > > Methinks those are "spades" . . . They aerodynamically balance the
> > > ailerons.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lee
> > > Firestar II
> > >
> > > Do not archive
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dale Sellers [mailto:dsel1@bellsouth.net]
> > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spats...
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > I was under the impression that spats on an airplane are those things
> used
> > > on aerobatic planes that are attached to the outer ends on the ailerons
> > > and
> > > hang down. I'm not sure of their function but I'm pretty sure that's
> what
> > > they're called.
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm wrong, happens all the time.
> > >
> > > Dale Sellers
> > > Georgia UltraStar
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pollus" <pollus@fornerod.nl>
> > > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Kolb-List: Spats...
> > >
> > >
> > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
> > >>
> > >> I was just wondering: those "Spats" absolutely look racey, but do they
> > >> really benefit the flight characteristics at our moderate airspeeds? I
> > >> mean in terms of detectable schange of crusespeed or fuel consumption?
> > >>
> > >> Op 28-feb-05 om 21:16 heeft PATRICK LADD het volgende geschreven:
> > >>
> > >>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
> > >>> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Bryan,
> > >>> <<, what are spats?>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I had no idea that anyone called them anything else, but then I am
> > >>> incredibly oldfashioned and tend to continue to use out of date words
> > >>> and phrases long after everyone else has moved on. They are the
> > >>> streamlined mud
> > >>> collectors that you fit over your planes wheels.
> > >>>
> > >>> One of the 30`s Miles aircraft (the Hawk?) had a non retractable
> > >>> but fully enclosed streamlined undercarriage which was described as
> > >>> `trousered`.
> > >>>
> > >>> I wondered after I replied to your query if it was the phrase `swings
> > >>> and roundabouts` which required explanation, considering that you
> > >>> don`t have
> > >>> `roundabouts` only `carousels`, but I must have guessed wrongly
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>>
> > >>> Pat
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>> do not archive
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Kolb to lighten control pressures? | M. Domenic Perez
Hi M. Domenic Perez/Gang:
Yes, a gentleman by the name of Aubrey Radford, old Air America pilot
from VN days installed spades on his original Firestar. Aubrey flew
hard, very similar to John Hauck, back in those days. Two months
after I pulled the wings off my original Firestar, Aubrey did the same
thing with his Firestar. He got a full canopy, but the kevlar bridal
seperated when it came into contact with the sharp edge of the engine
mount. Unfortunately, it was his last flight. Those two events
happened 15 years ago. Mine in March and Aubrey's in May. BTW My
parachute worked.
On the subject of heavy ailerons. Kolbs only have heavy ailerons as
speeds increase. For instance, my Kolb MKIII starts loading up the
ailerons about 70 mph. Below that they can be racked over stop to
stop. Above that and they are stiff. Homer Kolb told me to be
gentle, apply a little pressure, and the Kolb would roll. Those wide
cord ailerons were designed for slow speed control right through the
stall. Homer, personally, loves to fly slowly. Thus the wide cord.
I clipped some cord off my MKIII ailerons when I built it based on
many hours experience flying the factory MKIII. I got a good
compromise. Still have sufficient aileron to have control through the
stall.
Kolbs were not designed to be snappy, quick rolling aircraft. Their
beauty is in their ability to get off the ground quick, climb out
steeply, land short, and haul anything you can cram in it and
sometimes, strap on it. In my Firestar days I could not get all my
cross country gear inside the aircraft. When I was building it, I had
Brother Jim weld me some tabs on the bottom of the fuselage from the
main gear aft. Here is where my sleeping bag rode inside its bungee
cargo net. Thought I was something when I reconfigured the Firestar
and was able to fly extended cross country flights with "all" my gear
inside the airplane.
Take care,
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
In a message dated 3/2/05 12:08:44 PM Central Standard Time,
ulflyer@verizon.net writes:
> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> Why not go to Sun &Fun and pick up your float rating the week before or
> after. Used to be a well known school, Brown I believe it was) that
> operated out of Winter Haven
Jerb/All
Brown's is where I got my rating a year ago. They operate a very good school
and the rating also updates you BFR. Better book in advance if you are
interested, they tend to stay booked up. Listed below should get you to their site.
www.gate.net/~seaplane
Steve B
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Subject: | Xtra/Jabiru 2200 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Silver Fern Microlights Ltd" <kiwimick@sfmicro.fsnet.co.uk>
Hi all, just a quick note to say, (YIPPEE) G-CDFA has been cleared for flight testing.
Am sure looking forward to getting back in the air in a Kolb again and with a great
engine behind aswell.
do not archive
Regards
Mike
G-CDFA
Xtra/Jab 2200
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
The strip of khaki cloth that was wrapped from the boot over
the lower pant was called a puttee.
-BB do not archive
On 2, Mar 2005, at 2:36 PM, jerb wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>
> At 04:54 AM 3/2/05 -0600, you wrote:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>>
>> Wheel pants fully cover the wheel.
>>
>> Spats cover the front part of the wheel but not the entire wheel to
>> add
>> streamlining.
> OOP's ' - Spats that should have been cover the rear part of the
> wheel to
> streamline it. Weren't they things worn by the past military over the
> ankles that partly cover the top of the boot and the lower part of the
> pant
> leg - WWI or WWII. Bob N should know about those things......8
> )
> jerb
>
>
>> Spades are the flat blade like device hanging down on the pictures of
>> the
>> Titan or often seen on aerobatic aircraft, they primary purpose is to
>> reduce control input forces.
>>
>> Counter balances are used to balance a control surface to with
>> specified
>> design limits - can be full to some percentage of full like 60% - I
>> believe
>> there used on the Kolb Mark-III and maybe the FireStar II.
>> jerb
>>
>>
>> At 11:09 AM 3/1/05 -0500, you wrote:
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>> Oh, OK. I stand corrected. Thanks Lee.
>>> Dale Sellers
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Creech, Lee (Local Govt)" <Lee.Creech@ky.gov>
>>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Spats...
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Creech, Lee (Local Govt)"
>>>> <Lee.Creech@ky.gov>
>>>>
>>>> Methinks those are "spades" . . . They aerodynamically balance the
>>>> ailerons.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>> Firestar II
>>>>
>>>> Do not archive
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dale Sellers [mailto:dsel1@bellsouth.net]
>>>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spats...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers"
>>>> <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>>>>
>>>> I was under the impression that spats on an airplane are those
>>>> things
>> used
>>>> on aerobatic planes that are attached to the outer ends on the
>>>> ailerons
>>>> and
>>>> hang down. I'm not sure of their function but I'm pretty sure
>>>> that's
>> what
>>>> they're called.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm wrong, happens all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Dale Sellers
>>>> Georgia UltraStar
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Pollus" <pollus@fornerod.nl>
>>>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: Kolb-List: Spats...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Pollus <pollus@fornerod.nl>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just wondering: those "Spats" absolutely look racey, but do
>>>>> they
>>>>> really benefit the flight characteristics at our moderate
>>>>> airspeeds? I
>>>>> mean in terms of detectable schange of crusespeed or fuel
>>>>> consumption?
>>>>>
>>>>> Op 28-feb-05 om 21:16 heeft PATRICK LADD het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>
>>>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD"
>>>>>> <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bryan,
>>>>>> <<, what are spats?>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had no idea that anyone called them anything else, but then I am
>>>>>> incredibly oldfashioned and tend to continue to use out of date
>>>>>> words
>>>>>> and phrases long after everyone else has moved on. They are the
>>>>>> streamlined mud
>>>>>> collectors that you fit over your planes wheels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the 30`s Miles aircraft (the Hawk?) had a non retractable
>>>>>> but fully enclosed streamlined undercarriage which was described
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> `trousered`.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wondered after I replied to your query if it was the phrase
>>>>>> `swings
>>>>>> and roundabouts` which required explanation, considering that you
>>>>>> don`t have
>>>>>> `roundabouts` only `carousels`, but I must have guessed wrongly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pat
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> do not archive
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| the lower pant was called a puttee.
| -BB
BB and Gang:
And in the US Army, puttees were British, we had leggons. These were
heavy canvas that laced up and were worn around the trousers bottom
and boots.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey guys,
I took a couple of pictures of the "hoop" from the regular, standing
by the plane view,
It doesn't look as big as the "building - Close up views"
http://www.wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=452#452
After it was completly finished I measured it and the nose would be off the ground
5" before the hoop would do it's job.... If the ground is soft.....less
I don't know how high the tail would be.....I haven't pushed the plane out of
the garage, here in Minnie - sota land , ya know......It's still Winter, I still
need 4 wheel drive to back into my driveway....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
do not archive
My Web Site:
http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Harrrr............and in the Canadian Army they (WW II version, anyway) had
the same kinda thing with 2 straps and buckles to hold 'em on, but called
them "gaiters." (No, no, no - not 'gators) For ceremonial parades they'd
put weights inside the pant leg to give a nice smooth roll to the material
where it belled out at the top of the gaiter. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spats...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
>
>
> BB and Gang:
>
> And in the US Army, puttees were British, we had leggons. These were
> heavy canvas that laced up and were worn around the trousers bottom
> and boots.
>
> john h
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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Subject: | Radio shack antenna |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
John / all
Here is the info I got from my friend on the radio shack antenna. He
has been using it with a Icom A23 and a Lynx headset for about five
years. He flys about 150 hours a year.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Bryan,
What I have is the MAXRAD state of the art Antennas
http://www.maxrad.com/
I got it from Radio Shack But I am told they no longer carrie this.
My Coax is from the same company and is about 18 foot, I have it
mounted on the wing.
I hope this will help ,,,,this is all the info I have at this time.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
John H
I am thinking about replacing the reliable old 377 on my plane with
a new 447. What prop did you use on your Firestar and can I use a Warp?
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 377 BRS 19LBG
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
What prop did you use on your Firestar and can I use a Warp?
| Bryan Green Elgin SC
Hi Bryan/Gang:
I used a Jim Culver two blade wood prop 66X32 with polyurethane
leading edge. Was a perfect combo for my original FS. Put a lot of
cross country miles under those wings being pushed by that Culver
prop.
I don't know. Can you use a Warp? hehehe Seriously, I really have
no experience with the Warp Drive Prop until I put one on a 582 on my
MKIII. Best guy to talk to about Warp Drive Props and your particular
aircraft is Daryl. He has a 1-800 number.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Time to hit the sack. Anyone else been watching Steve F. and
the non stop hop? 46,000 ft, pretty good ground speed so far,
sundown line below, dark water ahead.
good luck.
http://www.globalflyer.com/MissionControl/Tracking/
-BB do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Gaffer's Tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jerry Curtin" <jcurtin@cableone.net>
Hello John and All, I hate to sound dumb, but what is the gaffer's tape used
for. Help make me a little smarter, thanks. Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Gaffer's Tape
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Hi Ya'll:
>
> Steve Garvelink, Dallas Bay, Tennessee, sent me this url for Gaffer's
> Tape:
>
> http://www34.pair.com/harrison/thetapeworks.com/progaff.htm
>
> It is some good stuff. Well, worth what you have to pay for it,
> although this will be the first time I have had to actually buy some.
> Whoa is me. ;-(
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Gaffer's Tape |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| for. Jerry
Jerry/Gang:
I take it along on cross country flights for emergency situations.
Can use it like you would use duct tape. Gaffers tape is much better
quality. Sticks good, but also easy to remove. The primary
application I like is using it to tape up the radiator during cold
weather operation to keep eng oil temp and cyl head temp up to their
recommended operating ranges. Last flight to Alaska I used it to
repair lexan door and quarter window that got damaged when I
accidently splashed auto fuel on them.
john h
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: possums <possums@mindspring.com>
At 03:12 PM 3/2/2005, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>
> | Has anyone tried spades on the ailerons of a Firestar II or other
>Kolb to lighten control pressures? | M. Domenic Perez
>
>Hi M. Domenic Perez/Gang:
>
>Yes, a gentleman by the name of Aubrey Radford, old Air America pilot
>from VN days installed spades on his original Firestar. Aubrey flew
>hard, very similar to John Hauck, back in those days. Two months
>after I pulled the wings off my original Firestar, Aubrey did the same
>thing with his Firestar. He got a full canopy, but the kevlar bridal
>seperated when it came into contact with the sharp edge of the engine
>mount. Unfortunately, it was his last flight. Those two events
>happened 15 years ago. Mine in March and Aubrey's in May. BTW My
>parachute worked.
He did have the spades on his plane, but later we cut down the ailerons and
archived the same or better results.
That's right about the crash - except Aubrey had a "Second Chance" chute
with a "nylon"
bridal that separated at about 100+ mph on an over loaded KXP going
straight down after doing several aerobic maneuvers - loops and
hammerheads - at an air show.
The front leading edge folded back as far as we could tell - the out of
column sort of thing.
I'm almost sure it was a 500lb max chute system. Aubrey was about 1/2 max
himself.
He hit so hard that the engine block was flattened. Not to be too graphic
but just in case you guys haven't seen one of these - they're really
teeth, hair & ....you know the rest. We've had two of these so far - so
be careful out there you guys. Aubrey flew very hard. I could tell you stories
about Aubrey, but you wouldn't believe them.
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