Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/08/05


Total Messages Posted: 34



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     1. 12:01 AM - Re: kolb friends (Larry Bourne)
     2. 03:38 AM - Re: warp drive prop (Ted Cowan)
     3. 05:08 AM - Re: Fathers Day Fly-in (Tom O'Hara)
     4. 05:14 AM - Re: firestar 2 speeds (John Jung)
     5. 05:23 AM - Re: kolb friends (Dana Labhart)
     6. 05:48 AM - Re: kolb friends (bryan green)
     7. 06:57 AM - Re: full swivel tailwheels  (Rusty)
     8. 07:39 AM - 377 for sale (bryan green)
     9. 07:43 AM - Re: Fathers Day Fly-in (terry)
    10. 07:44 AM - prop (bryan green)
    11. 07:54 AM - Re: prop (N27SB@aol.com)
    12. 07:55 AM - Re: Fathers Day Fly-in (terry)
    13. 11:03 AM - Re: Landing Gear Legs (PATRICK LADD)
    14. 11:27 AM - Tailwheel endorsement (Mike Pierzina)
    15. 11:51 AM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement (robert bean)
    16. 12:19 PM - Re: Landing Gear Legs aka Weld (Bob N.)
    17. 12:46 PM - John Hauck (Dale Sellers)
    18. 01:28 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little) (David Carr)
    19. 01:34 PM - Re: John Hauck (russ kinne)
    20. 02:29 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little) (Michael Sharp)
    21. 02:58 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little) (David Carr)
    22. 03:58 PM - Ms. Dixie  (Paul Petty)
    23. 05:11 PM - Re: John Hauck (Dale Sellers)
    24. 05:23 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little) (Bob N.)
    25. 05:59 PM - Re: Ms. Dixie  (Larry Bourne)
    26. 06:02 PM - Re:Tailwheel endorsement (Mike Pierzina)
    27. 06:03 PM - Re: Tailwheel endorsement (Larry Bourne)
    28. 06:47 PM - flapperons and other (Mike Marsh)
    29. 06:48 PM - TEST (Mike Pierzina)
    30. 07:26 PM - pic new gear leg (rap@isp.com)
    31. 07:28 PM - pic new gear leg (Rick Pearce)
    32. 07:57 PM - pic new gear leg (rap@isp.com)
    33. 08:06 PM - New Gear Leg Photo (John Hauck)
    34. 08:19 PM - Re: flapperons and other (Bob N.)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:01:36 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: kolb friends
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> Well said, Boyd. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net> Subject: Kolb-List: kolb friends > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net> > > > John, > It must be nice to know everything about everything. It seems that > your main goal on the Kolb list is to put down as many as you can. > Just from what I've read from you on the list, I hope I never have the > misopportunity to meet you in person. > > Dale Sellers > GA UltraStar > ------------------------------------- > > > dale > > i have met john a couple of times.... and i feel fortuinate to be > able to call him a friend..... he is out spoken and direct,,,, a > quality that some do not like as they would have everything sugar > coated.... but with john you do know where you stand.... he has been > helpfull to all that have asked, and has shared of his knowledge and > insights.... i have had the oppertunity of visiting with him > around the camp fire, flying wing tip to wingtip, traided air to air > photos , and even invited him to my home.... and at sometime i hope > he is able to do so..... > > my $0.02 worth > > boyd > > in my opinion this information should be archived..... > but as it does not relate directly to the knowledge of building and flying > kolbs,, > > do not archive. > > >


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    Time: 03:38:01 AM PST US
    From: Ted Cowan <trc1917@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: warp drive prop
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Ted Cowan <trc1917@direcway.com> was wondering if anyone has any actual working knowledge of a swap from an IVO three blade to a warp drive three blade prop on a SlingShot. Would like imput. By the looks of the new KOLB legs, they are a cut down version of the SlingShot legs. Gotta tell ya, if they are, they are strong and work well. Ted Cowan. By the way, would anyone want to trade for the IVO with a warp? What length of blade on the 582?


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    Time: 05:08:42 AM PST US
    From: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
    Subject: Re: Fathers Day Fly-in
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com> For maybe one or two of us who might not have a Kolb to fly in with, could someone post driving directions? I don't think we will see the airport marked on a PA DOT map!!! :) Thanks Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "terry" <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Fathers Day Fly-in > --> Kolb-List message posted by: terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> > > On another note, while I sit here wishing I was up there! I couldn't help but think > about the good flying weather that will come with spring & summer. > > As of now, this is the list of people that have expressed interest in joining us at > Homer and Clara's farm on the Saturday 18th. of the Fathers Day weekend in June: > > Steve Green > Denny Rowe > Chuck Davis > Charlie Blackwell > Gene Zimmerman > Earl Zimmerman > Tim > Bob Griffin > Bob Pongrazz > John Hauck > Bill Varnes Tom Ohara > Ken james > George Alexander > > If there are others let me know. I know Clara will be hitting me up eventually to get > an idea of how many might come. Looking forward to another grand time at the Kolb > farm. Last year is going to be hard to beat!!! > > Terry - FireFly #95 > >


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    Time: 05:14:55 AM PST US
    From: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: firestar 2 speeds
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com> Wade, The factory now shows 35 mph for stall in a Firestar. If they have numbers for best glide or climb, I am not aware of them. But to get you in the "ball-park", here is my own opinion: The 35 mph is not unrealistic for a light Firestar with a small windscreen. I am aware of a number of Firestars that stall at around 38 to 40, like mine does. The Firestars that I have flown had the best climb rate and lowest sink rate about 5 mph above stall. Probably "best" not to fly at that speed, though. John Jung do not archive __________________________________ http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/


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    Time: 05:23:07 AM PST US
    From: "Dana Labhart" <njlabhart@kih.net>
    Subject: Re: kolb friends
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dana Labhart" <njlabhart@kih.net> Dear Friends, It would be a "missed opportunity" in life if you do not get a chance to know Mr. Hauck. While he may seem a little gritty at times, he is always willing to share, help and "infect" people with aviation. It is the same endearing qualtiy my late husband had. I'm lucky to be able to "class" him with Mr. Hauck. It is this love of aviation why he posts to the list so much. I do think many of you appreciate what John has to offer along with myself and the entire sport. Keep up the good work John. Love ya, Dana Labhart do not archive


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    Time: 05:48:23 AM PST US
    From: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: kolb friends
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Well said I removed the dna. Bryan Dana Labhart wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dana Labhart" <njlabhart@kih.net> > >Dear Friends, > >It would be a "missed opportunity" in life if you do >not get a chance to know Mr. Hauck. While he may >seem a little gritty at times, he is always willing to >share, help and "infect" people with aviation. It is the >same endearing qualtiy my late husband had. I'm lucky >to be able to "class" him with Mr. Hauck. It is this love >of aviation why he posts to the list so much. I do think >many of you appreciate what John has to offer along >with myself and the entire sport. Keep up the good >work John. > >Love ya, >Dana Labhart > > > >


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    Time: 06:57:33 AM PST US
    From: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: full swivel tailwheels
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> I finally got around to measuring the break-out angle of the SS wheel, and my Van's RV wheel. The RV measured 41 degrees, and the SS measured 43 degrees. Since these are rough eyeball type measurements, I think I can conclude that there's no significant difference in the angle they break-out at. As another note of trivia, the RV spring looks to be about 5/8" (steel) where the SS spring is 3/4" (aluminum). The RV tailwheels are less than half the price of the "homebuilder special" wheels that Spruce sells, but I'm not sure if there's enough meat on it to bore it out safely for the 3/4" spring. The RV wheel assembly is all steel, where the Spruce assembly is aluminum. The tailwheel on the current SS is sick, so it's going to need some work, or more likely replacement with a Van's wheel. Cheers, Rusty (SS completely bare now)


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    Time: 07:39:38 AM PST US
    From: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: 377 for sale
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Morning all, I just ordered my new 447 engine (that hurt a lot) but my 377 is available for sale. It has had all new seals and gaskets and checked by D&F aviation would like to get enough for it and gas spent on carrying it there and back. I ran it 2 weeks ago for about 10 mins. just to get the lubrication going not even enough to dial carb back in thinking $800.00 dollars it would put you in the air cheep. 803-233-1373 Bryan Green Elgin SC Original Firestar 447 BRS One wing covered one to go then get N number P.S. e-mail best way to reach me this week will be in OH. until Fri. Do not archive


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    Time: 07:43:10 AM PST US
    From: terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Fathers Day Fly-in
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> Earl & Mim Zimmerman wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman <emzi@supernet.com> > > terry wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> > > > > On another note, while I sit here wishing I was up there! I couldn't help but think > > about the good flying weather that will come with spring & summer. > > > > As of now, this is the list of people that have expressed interest in joining us at > > Homer and Clara's farm on the Saturday 18th. of the Fathers Day weekend in June: > > > > Steve Green > > Denny Rowe > > Chuck Davis > > Charlie Blackwell > > Gene Zimmerman > > Earl Zimmerman > > Tim > > Bob Griffin > > Bob Pongrazz > > John Hauck > > Bill Varnes Tom Ohara > > Ken james > > George Alexander > > > > If there are others let me know. I know Clara will be hitting me up eventually to get > > an idea of how many might come. Looking forward to another grand time at the Kolb > > farm. Last year is going to be hard to beat!!! > > > > Terry - FireFly #95 > > Terry I think that Joel is interested in coming. And I would guess that > Wilmer and Jeff would come too. But then you probably talked to them > since I have. How was the breakfast the other week? ~ Earl > Earl, Your right, I did forget to include Wilmer and Jeff. I guess because I talk to them on a regular basis and just assume they are going to be there. Can you get in touch with Joel and see if he is interested? Thanks for pointing out my omission. The Lancaster/Lebanon UL Breakfast was a success with 12 there and would have been 13 if Dave could have found us. Too bad you and your father couldn't join us. Terry - FireFly #95 DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:44:14 AM PST US
    From: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: prop
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com> Hi again, Anyone with a two blade adjustable pitch prop for sale let me know what you got and price off list please. Do not archive Bryan


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    Time: 07:54:19 AM PST US
    From: N27SB@aol.com
    Subject: Re: prop
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com Hi Bryan, I have a 66 inch IVO that I took off of the float plane. I have a two blade warp and a three blade kiev on order. I can't part with the ivo until I get the other props in. I have to make sure that I have something on it for Sun n Fun. If you still need it later let me know. Steve Boetto


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    Time: 07:55:51 AM PST US
    From: terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Fathers Day Fly-in
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> Tom O'Hara wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com> > > For maybe one or two of us who might not have a Kolb to fly in with, could > someone post driving directions? I don't think we will see the airport > marked on a PA DOT map!!! :) > > Tom, Good point! I will post driving directions as well as the coordinates to Homer and Clara's farm when we get closer to that date. Homers field is on the sectionals of both Washington and New York. Look just northwest of Phila. Lot's of time left for that. If I post them now they will be forgotten and will need to be done again. More info as we get near that time! Terry - FireFly #95


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    Time: 11:03:51 AM PST US
    From: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear Legs
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> ElleryWeld@aol>> Ellery Weld? No relation to Tuesday I suppose? :-)) Cheers Pat do not archive -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 11:27:44 AM PST US
    From: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Tailwheel endorsement
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Hey Guys, Finally gonna start my training for my tailwheel endorsement today....the company that I'll be using is in the Feb edition of "GA NEWS" (page 35) Adventure Seaplanes..... They have an Aeronca Champ , which is alot like the Kolb ....Stick , throttle in left hand, slow flying , tailwheel .....And it should qualify as a "LIKE AIRCRAFT" for the insurance co. (they required 5 hrs) It'll also take care of my "biannual review" and after flying from their grass strip we'll move on to a paved runway , which is the airport that I'll be flying my Firestar II 40 hrs of flight testing from. (Anoka - Class D) So it'll get me familiar with the area also.... They say about 6 hrs should do it....at $110 per hr that's not bad.... It's not easy to find this type of aircraft to train in.....they would even let me Rent the plane, which is also hard to find..... The fun begins at 2:30 , not long now.... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN Do Not Archive PS John , your EVERYBODYS Hero ! My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... ---------------------------------


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    Time: 11:51:03 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Minnesota? Champ? Hope you wear your long johns. -BB do not archive On 8, Mar 2005, at 2:26 PM, Mike Pierzina wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> > > Hey Guys, > Finally gonna start my training for my tailwheel > endorsement today....the company that I'll be using is in the Feb > edition of "GA NEWS" (page 35) Adventure Seaplanes..... > They have an Aeronca Champ , which is alot like the Kolb ....Stick > , throttle in left hand, slow flying , tailwheel .....And it should > qualify as a "LIKE AIRCRAFT" for the insurance co. (they required 5 > hrs) It'll also take care of my "biannual review" and after flying > from their grass strip we'll move on to a paved runway , which is the > airport that I'll be flying my Firestar II 40 hrs of flight testing > from. (Anoka - Class D) So it'll get me familiar with the area > also.... > They say about 6 hrs should do it....at $110 per hr > that's not bad.... > It's not easy to find this type of aircraft to train in.....they > would even let me Rent the plane, which is also hard to find..... > The fun begins at 2:30 , not > long now.... > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > > Do Not Archive > > > PS John , your EVERYBODYS Hero ! > > > My Web Site: > http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html > > > Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the > way down... > > > --------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 12:19:49 PM PST US
    From: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear Legs aka Weld
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net> Arc no. do not arc hive


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    Time: 12:46:55 PM PST US
    From: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: John Hauck
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net> Fellow Kolbers, I find that I can't be quiet any longer. Every time I open the list I see someone chastizing me for the way I feel in private. Many have said that the list is not the place for such things....I agree as do the rules of the list regarding non-kolb related posts. The way I feel and what I do or say off-list is my business only. John Hauck took it upon himself to farword my off-list message to him to the list which also violates the rules for the list. He did it , I think, to receive his much needed praise from his subjects. I'm asking that you observe the rules of the list and restrict your comments to me directly off-list or restrick them al together. Dale Sellers Georgia UltraStar do not archive


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    Time: 01:28:18 PM PST US
    From: David Carr <DECarr@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Carr <DECarr@direcway.com> Hi Mike and all When I learned to fly at Iowa City Iowa in the 50s, I paid $10.00 an hour dual and $8.00 an hour solo for a 1946 Champ. Times have changed a bit I guess. The Champ is a great plane and easy to fly. DEC Do Not Archive -------Original Message------- From: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Kolb-List: Tailwheel endorsement --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Hey Guys, Finally gonna start my training for my tailwheel endorsement today....the company that I'll be using is in the Feb edition of "GA NEWS" (page 35) Adventure Seaplanes..... They have an Aeronca Champ , which is alot like the Kolb ....Stick , throttle in left hand, slow flying , tailwheel .....And it should qualify as a "LIKE AIRCRAFT" for the insurance co. (they required 5 hrs) It'll also take care of my "biannual review" and after flying from their grass strip we ll move on to a paved runway , which is the airport that I'll be flying my Firestar II 40 hrs of flight testing from. (Anoka - Class D) So it'll get me familiar with the area also.... They say about 6 hrs should do it....at $110 per hr that's not bad.... It's not easy to find this type of aircraft to train in.....they would even let me Rent the plane, which is also hard to find..... The fun begins at 2:30 , not long now.... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN Do Not Archive PS John , your EVERYBODYS Hero ! My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... --------------------------------- .


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    Time: 01:34:34 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: John Hauck
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> To Whom It May Concern IMHO, many past comments should never have been made at ALL, public or private. Good advice to "restrick them al together"(sic) Let's have no more of this. On Mar 8, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Dale Sellers wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net> > > Fellow Kolbers, > > I find that I can't be quiet any longer. Every time I open the list I > see someone chastizing me for the way I feel in private. Many have > said that the list is not the place for such things....I agree as do > the rules of the list regarding non-kolb related posts. The way I > feel and what I do or say off-list is my business only. John Hauck > took it upon himself to farword my off-list message to him to the list > which also violates the rules for the list. He did it , I think, to > receive his much needed praise from his subjects. > I'm asking that you observe the rules of the list and restrict your > comments to me directly off-list or restrick them al together. > > Dale Sellers > Georgia UltraStar > do not archive > >


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    Time: 02:29:45 PM PST US
    From: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com> Hi all, What was the average monthly and or hourly salary in the 1950's I wonder just how much it has changed... do not archive Mike --- David Carr <DECarr@direcway.com> wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Carr > <DECarr@direcway.com> > > Hi Mike and all > > When I learned to fly at Iowa City Iowa in the 50s, > I paid $10.00 an hour > dual and $8.00 an hour solo for a 1946 Champ. Times > have changed a bit I > guess. The Champ is a great plane and easy to fly. > > DEC > > Do Not Archive > > -------Original Message------- > > From: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: 03/08/05 13:38:31 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Tailwheel endorsement > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina > <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> > > Hey Guys, > Finally gonna start my training for > my tailwheel endorsement > today....the company that I'll be using is in the > Feb edition of "GA NEWS" > (page 35) Adventure Seaplanes..... > They have an Aeronca Champ , which is alot like > the Kolb ....Stick , > throttle in left hand, slow flying , tailwheel > .....And it should qualify as > a "LIKE AIRCRAFT" for the insurance co. (they > required 5 hrs) It'll also > take care of my "biannual review" and after flying > from their grass strip we > ll move on to a paved runway , which is the airport > that I'll be flying my > Firestar II 40 hrs of flight testing from. (Anoka - > Class D) So it'll get > me familiar with the area also.... > They say about 6 hrs should do > it....at $110 per hr that's > not bad.... > It's not easy to find this type of aircraft to > train in.....they would > even let me Rent the plane, which is also hard to > find..... > The fun > begins at 2:30 , not long > now.... > > Gotta > Fly... > > Mike in MN > > Do Not Archive > > > PS John , your EVERYBODYS Hero ! > > > My Web Site: > http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html > > > Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build > your wings on the way > down... > > > --------------------------------- > > > . > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:58:22 PM PST US
    From: David Carr <DECarr@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Carr <DECarr@direcway.com> Mike and all I was making $4.00 an hour as an A/E Mechanic before taxes. Good wage back then. $2 bucks an hour was closer to norm. DEC Do Not Archive -------Original Message------- From: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little) --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com> Hi all, What was the average monthly and or hourly salary in the 1950's I wonder just how much it has changed... do not archive Mike --- David Carr <DECarr@direcway.com> wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: David Carr > <DECarr@direcway.com> > > Hi Mike and all > > When I learned to fly at Iowa City Iowa in the 50s, > I paid $10.00 an hour > dual and $8.00 an hour solo for a 1946 Champ. Times > have changed a bit I > guess. The Champ is a great plane and easy to fly. > > DEC > > Do Not Archive > > -------Original Message------- > > From: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: 03/08/05 13:38:31 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Tailwheel endorsement > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina > <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> > > Hey Guys, > Finally gonna start my training for > my tailwheel endorsement > today....the company that I'll be using is in the > Feb edition of "GA NEWS" > (page 35) Adventure Seaplanes..... > They have an Aeronca Champ , which is alot like > the Kolb ....Stick , > throttle in left hand, slow flying , tailwheel > .....And it should qualify as > a "LIKE AIRCRAFT" for the insurance co. (they > required 5 hrs) It'll also > take care of my "biannual review" and after flying > from their grass strip we > ll move on to a paved runway , which is the airport > that I'll be flying my > Firestar II 40 hrs of flight testing from. (Anoka - > Class D) So it'll get > me familiar with the area also.... > They say about 6 hrs should do > it....at $110 per hr that's > not bad.... > It's not easy to find this type of aircraft to > train in.....they would > even let me Rent the plane, which is also hard to > find..... > The fun > begins at 2:30 , not long > now.... > > Gotta > Fly... > > Mike in MN > > Do Not Archive > > > PS John , your EVERYBODYS Hero ! > > > My Web Site: > http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html > > > Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build > your wings on the way > down... > > > --------------------------------- > > > . > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > >


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    Time: 03:58:10 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net>
    Subject: Ms. Dixie
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> Hi fellow Kolbers, Just a quick note to let you all know I'm still breathing and building. I got the 912 mounted along with the warp and plumbed it for a test run.Engine started right up and runs wonderful. To bad the super trapp muffler is non usable because it's very quite. Moving onto making the flaps and rigging the controls. If you like photos go to www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos and scroll down to December-February some of the photos are of family and such for my other family so just skip those. I really like this one>>>> http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P1230021.JPG Take care buddy's Paul Petty Building Ms. Dixie Kolbra/912UL/Warp ps. John H.......behave! :-) do not archive


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    Time: 05:11:24 PM PST US
    From: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: John Hauck
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net> Yes Father! ----- Original Message ----- From: "russ kinne" <kinnepix@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck > --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net> > > To Whom It May Concern > IMHO, many past comments should never have been made at ALL, public or > private. > Good advice to "restrick them al together"(sic) > Let's have no more of this. > > On Mar 8, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Dale Sellers wrote: > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net> >> >> Fellow Kolbers, >> >> I find that I can't be quiet any longer. Every time I open the list I >> see someone chastizing me for the way I feel in private. Many have >> said that the list is not the place for such things....I agree as do >> the rules of the list regarding non-kolb related posts. The way I >> feel and what I do or say off-list is my business only. John Hauck >> took it upon himself to farword my off-list message to him to the list >> which also violates the rules for the list. He did it , I think, to >> receive his much needed praise from his subjects. >> I'm asking that you observe the rules of the list and restrict your >> comments to me directly off-list or restrick them al together. >> >> Dale Sellers >> Georgia UltraStar >> do not archive >> >> > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:23:19 PM PST US
    From: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement (OT a little)
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net> I paid $3-4/hr solo, and sometimes as much as $5 for dual end of '40 and '41. I had a 6hr/night job inspecting HOT Ball canning jars at 65/hr. In late '41 up to when I went flyin in the Navy '42 got $1/hr as arc welder. In '49 with an EE I got $66/wk. Bob N. do not archive


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    Time: 05:59:33 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Ms. Dixie
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> You're gonna be flying in no time, Paul. Nice going, and looks like a nice job. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> Subject: Kolb-List: Ms. Dixie > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Paul Petty" <Lynnp@c-gate.net> > > Hi fellow Kolbers, > Just a quick note to let you all know I'm still breathing and building. I > got the 912 mounted along with the warp and plumbed it for a test > run.Engine started right up and runs wonderful. To bad the super trapp > muffler is non usable because it's very quite. Moving onto making the > flaps and rigging the controls. If you like photos go to > www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos and scroll down to December-February some of > the photos are of family and such for my other family so just skip those. > I really like this one>>>> > http://www.c-gate.net/~ppetty/photos/P1230021.JPG > > Take care buddy's > > Paul Petty > Building Ms. Dixie > Kolbra/912UL/Warp > > > ps. John H.......behave! :-) > > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 06:02:05 PM PST US
    From: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RE:Tailwheel endorsement
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Hey Guys, Almost didn't get the Aeronca started (hand proped) Put a heater up to it and finally it started.... I did some practice taxi turn arounds....feeling the tailwheel break loose and relocking it.....My instructor had to get out once and give the tail a boost....( Oooops! ) What a first lesson...it was about an hour and a half , with 15 landings ....after doing alittle turning to get familiar with the plane , we went right to landings on a grass field ( Forest Lake airstrip ) doing 3 point landings....Then we headed over to a lake and did wheel landings on the Ice....Then we went back to the grass strip and did wheel landings there.... I've never landed on neither before....another thing that is "Like" my Firestar was the Aeronca had "Heel brakes".... I didn't know that......So this looks like a pretty good plane to train in to get ready for mine.... Just thought I'd share.... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN do not archive > > >They have an Aeronca Champ , which is alot like the Kolb ....Stick , throttlein left hand, slow flying , tailwheel .....And it should qualify as a "LIKEAIRCRAFT" for the insurance co. (they required 5 hrs) It'll also take care ofmy "biannual review" and after flying from their grass strip we'll move on toa paved runway , which is the airport that I'll be flying my Firestar II 40 hrsof flight testing from. (Anoka - Class D) So it'll get me familiar with thearea also....not long now.... My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:03:33 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel endorsement
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com> You're gonna love it, Mike. I got my endorsement in a '47 Aeronca 7AC (??) Champ about 5 yrs ago and loved it. Then I went and flew a friend's Piper J5 and REally fell in love. 1st solo in the Champ was nearly as much fun as 1st ever solo when getting my license. The story is on my website under Learning to Fly. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Tailwheel endorsement > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> > > Hey Guys, > Finally gonna start my training for my tailwheel > endorsement today....the company that I'll be using is in the Feb edition > of "GA NEWS" (page 35) Adventure Seaplanes..... > They have an Aeronca Champ , which is alot like the Kolb ....Stick , > throttle in left hand, slow flying , tailwheel .....And it should qualify > as a "LIKE AIRCRAFT" for the insurance co. (they required 5 hrs) It'll > also take care of my "biannual review" and after flying from their grass > strip we'll move on to a paved runway , which is the airport that I'll be > flying my Firestar II 40 hrs of flight testing from. (Anoka - Class D) So > it'll get me familiar with the area also.... > They say about 6 hrs should do it....at $110 per hr that's > not bad.... > It's not easy to find this type of aircraft to train in.....they would > even let me Rent the plane, which is also hard to find..... > The fun begins at 2:30 , not long > now.... > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > > Do Not Archive > > > PS John , your EVERYBODYS Hero ! > > > My Web Site: > http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html > > > Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way > down... > > > --------------------------------- > > >


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    Time: 06:47:50 PM PST US
    From: Mike Marsh <nellypup_29@yahoo.com>
    Subject: flapperons and other
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Marsh <nellypup_29@yahoo.com> I have a firestar 1985/86 vintage tha I am re-building. I am a glider pilot and have flown power. I am used to either flaps or spoilers for landing. I was told by the guy I bought my firestar from that it had flapperons on it but from the plans and parts I have to work with I don't see anything that looks like flapperons. I have seen disussion in this group about flapperons. I sure don't know much about them. Any info is appreciated. Mike __________________________________ http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/


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    Time: 06:48:22 PM PST US
    From: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: TEST
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Something's wrong.......I keep getting a WHINE from my Kolb list....... I wish it would go away......at least for a week or two...... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN do not archive or reply.... My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:26:05 PM PST US
    From: rap@isp.com
    Subject: pic new gear leg
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    Time: 07:28:51 PM PST US
    From: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com>
    Subject: pic new gear leg
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" <rap@isp.com> I don't know what I'm doing so I hope it went through. I sent it to photoshare@matronics.


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    Time: 07:57:02 PM PST US
    From: rap@isp.com
    Subject: pic new gear leg
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    Time: 08:06:18 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: New Gear Leg Photo
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Send the picture to me, bc, and I will put it up on my index page and put the url in a post back to the Kolb List for you. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:19:29 PM PST US
    From: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
    Subject: Re: flapperons and other
    --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net> Flaperons are extending BOTH ailerons at same time. Bob N. FF070 do not archive




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