---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/12/05: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:04 AM - Re: John H and The Next Alaska Trip (Airgriff2@aol.com) 2. 04:18 AM - Re: kolb friends (PATRICK LADD) 3. 06:57 AM - INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES (Jim Ballenger) 4. 07:15 AM - Re: New Kolb Pilot (roger lee) 5. 07:37 AM - Re: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES (John Hauck) 6. 07:46 AM - Re: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES (Jim Ballenger) 7. 07:46 AM - Re: New Kolb Pilot (John Hauck) 8. 07:49 AM - Mk3/912 Flight Report (H MITCHELL) 9. 07:51 AM - Re: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES (Richard Pike) 10. 08:04 AM - Re: Mk3/912 Flight Report/New Airstrip/Sun and Fun 2005 (John Hauck) 11. 08:06 AM - Re: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES (Larry Bourne) 12. 08:22 AM - Re: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES (bryan green) 13. 08:44 AM - Alaska Trip and the Paraglider (David Paule) 14. 10:30 AM - Marginal days of ultralight flying (Edward Steuber) 15. 11:01 AM - Re: Could have been tragical but finally hllarious ;-) (PATRICK LADD) 16. 01:13 PM - GPS Advise (Earl & Mim Zimmerman) 17. 01:45 PM - Re: GPS Advise (Charlie England) 18. 04:12 PM - Re: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES (Jim Ballenger) 19. 04:53 PM - Re: GPS Advise (John Hauck) 20. 05:02 PM - Re: Marginal days of ultralight flying (John Hauck) 21. 07:52 PM - Re: Mk3/912 Flight Report/New Airstrip/Sun and Fun 2005 (H MITCHELL) 22. 08:43 PM - Re: Mk3/912 Flight Report/New Airstrip/Sun and Fun 2005 (John Hauck) 23. 11:46 PM - Re: GPS Advise (Rick Pearce) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:14 AM PST US From: Airgriff2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John H and The Next Alaska Trip --> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com Morning gang, Put me down for the "Alaska flight with Ms Pefer" book also, along with 100,000 other orders. March going out like a lion here in the northeast Can't wait for Sun & Fun. Hope to see a bunch of you down there. do not archive fly safe Bob Griffin ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:37 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kolb friends --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" Hi Pollus, lists always seem to have at least one member who sees slights and put downs which are not obvious to the rest. I thought the comments about John were well wide of the mark. I am a new boy but I have never known John to be other than courteous and helpful to anyone on the list. He is obviously a man of vast experience which as far as I am aware he has always been willing to share freely. He has never made a snide remark in any post which I have seen. I have never met John although I hope to at Sun`nFun on the 14th (particularly as he owes me a radio) but I shall be proud to shake his hand. Perhaps we should put down our listmates untimely outburst to a touch of indigestion, or the blues, or withdrawal syptoms because he hasn`t been flying lately. Cheers Pat -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:06 AM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Good Morning All I have been busy trying to get the MK III X ready for my DAR visit in the next month or so. I don't post my emails but I do read the posts everyday and have learned a great deal about flying and building the Kolb airplanes. I'm in the middle of installing my hydraulic brakes and have a question. Do you use some kind of anti siege or teflon tape or thread dope when making up the fitting to the wheel brake and the pedal cylinder ? Thanks Jim Ballenger Flying a FS KXP 447 Building a MK III X Virginia Beach, VA DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:20 AM PST US From: roger lee Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolb Pilot --> Kolb-List message posted by: roger lee Hi John, Thanks for the greeting. I am thinking of flying up to the MV fly'in. Where does everyone stay for the night? Are trailer's welcome. Would like to talk more about the fly'in and I would be happy to call you or you can call me at 520-574-1080. Thanks for the help, Roger Lee Tucson, Az. John Hauck wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | New Kolb pilot in Tucson, Az. I just purchased a Kolb Mark III classic with a 912S. | Roger Lee Hi Roger/Gang: Welcome aboard. You have chosen a nice airplane, I am sure. Your Kolb MK III Classic can afford you vistas that few others will ever enjoy. Here's Denali (Mt McKinley, highest point of the North American Continent, 20,320 feet ASL) as viewed out the windscreen of my MKIII Classic. After three flights and one trip by land, I finally got a good look at THE Mountain. Our Third Annual Monument Valley Unorganized/Unplanned Kolbe Flyin is scheduled for the weekend of 20, 21, 22 May 2005, at Gouldings, MV, UT. Some of us may get there earlier than 20 May. All depends on wind, weather, and whims. We have had exceptional flyins in the past. Some of the best folks ever gathered in one spot in the middle of the desert. Would never trade my experiences from those first two flyins. Looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones. We fly, talk, eat, talk, sit around and talk until our jaws get tired. Hope to see you there. john h Titus, Alabama N101AB, MKIII SN: M3-011 --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:23 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" when making up the fitting to the wheel brake and the pedal cylinder ? Morning Jim/Gang: Can't speak for O'Brien Brakes because I have never installed them, but on Hegar and Matco hydraulic brakes I used no dope or teflon tape to secure fittings. Don't remember ever using anykind of thread sealing compound for any kind of brakes, auto, motorcyle, etc. Good luck with your DAR. A great feeling to be this close to completion of your project. john h ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:47 AM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" John Thanks for the rapid response. Jim Ballenger Flying a FS KXP 447 Building a MK III X Virginia Beach, VA DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" > > | Do you use some kind of anti siege or teflon tape or thread dope > when making up the fitting to the wheel brake and the pedal cylinder ? > | Jim Ballenger > > Morning Jim/Gang: > > Can't speak for O'Brien Brakes because I have never installed them, > but on Hegar and Matco hydraulic brakes I used no dope or teflon tape > to secure fittings. Don't remember ever using anykind of thread > sealing compound for any kind of brakes, auto, motorcyle, etc. > > Good luck with your DAR. A great feeling to be this close to > completion of your project. > > john h > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:48 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Kolb Pilot --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" stay for the night? Are trailer's welcome. Would like to talk more about the fly'in and I would be happy to call you or you can call me at 520-574-1080. Morning Roger/Gang: I usually get to Gouldings on Thursday and will be there until Sunday afternoon or Monday morning, depending on when we decide to depart for Moab and parts north and west. We camp at Gouldings RV park and campground. Everything one needs to survive very comfortably is available to include an indoor swimming pool. Of course, we stay so busy flying, talking, and eating, I don't know of anyone that has christened the pool in the two years we have stayed there. Some of us camp in tents, RVs, airplane trailers. Trailers are welcome. Premium fuel is available across the road from the 4,000 ft combination dirt and paved airstrip, which is one way in and one way out, unless you fly a Kolb. Be careful. There is an 800 ft high vertical rock face at the south end of the field. Gouldings has a great resturant and lodge, plus grocery store, museum, and tours by the Navajos of Monument Valley. http://www.gouldings.com/english/index.htm My home phone is 334-567-6280. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:58 AM PST US From: "H MITCHELL" Subject: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Flight Report Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:49:31 -0500 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" The North Florida weather finally slowed down so I arrived at the airport about 10 AM. The morning fog had cleared and the thermals were just getting started. 'Did a thorough preflight to make sure she was ready. It is still chilly here (~50 Deg.) but she started at the first touch of the starter. This was a Wednesday morning and I had the whole airport to my self. A friend of mine and fellow Kolber (Mk3X/VW) is building a new strip on land somewhere West of Bainbridge, GA and I wanted to see if he had finished. I flew the home base pattern for three touch-n-goes, climbed to about 3,000 feet, circled one time to make sure all was well, and headed North to Bainbridge. I monitored the Bainbridge frequency for a few minutes and watched for any activity in the pattern. There was nothing going on so I turned to the southwest and flew along the Flint river at ~1,000 feet looking for the new strip. I found a really nice looking strip about 2,000 by 100' but remembered hearing that there was a Corps of Engineers field in this area that was closed a few years ago. Sure enough there were trees 6' high scattered all over the touchdown area. What a waste. I crisscrossed the area several times and concluded that my friends field would need some more development, wherever it was. By the time I returned to home base the traffic had picked up. There were two other planes doing touch and goes and two more approaching the area looking for airport advisories. I joined the crowd (?) and made a passable landing. Back at the hangar I called my friend and he advised me that his crew were still pulling stumps at the new site. No wonder I could not find it. My plane performed flawlessly and the flying was still great, Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL, Mk3/912, 27+ Hrs ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:23 AM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike If you are using the brass fittings and the nyla-flo lines, you probably will not need to. My experience is that normally they will not leak, but normal varies from case to case. May not apply in your case, but here is a classic "How-to" from the Old Master on installing aircraft brakes. http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/Your%20Brake%20Ins tallation.html Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 09:58 AM 3/12/2005 -0500, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" > >Good Morning All > >I have been busy trying to get the MK III X ready for my DAR visit in the >next month or so. I don't post my emails but I do read the posts everyday >and have learned a great deal about flying and building the Kolb airplanes. > >I'm in the middle of installing my hydraulic brakes and have a question. >Do you use some kind of anti siege or teflon tape or thread dope when >making up the fitting to the wheel brake and the pedal cylinder ? > >Thanks > >Jim Ballenger >Flying a FS KXP 447 >Building a MK III X >Virginia Beach, VA > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:25 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Flight Report/New Airstrip/Sun and Fun 2005 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" strip on land somewhere West of Bainbridge, GA | Duane the plane Mitchell Duane Zee Plane/Gang: First I have heard of a new MKIIIX/VW. Anybody we know? Be sure and post some GPS coordinates when you get them for his new airstrip. That is right on my route of flight to TLH and Quincy. Great to hear you MKIII is flying well. I have not flown in a while. Doesn't look like I will today either. We are having Jack Hart winds, 25 mph, yesterday and today. Had to put tie downs on the John Deere and the Case this morning to keep them from blowing away. This time next month we will be at Sun and Fun. How many on the List going to try and make it to Lakeland this year? We need to get coordinated for a get together at the Kolb trailer and a BBQ dinner in Lakeland. I will be flying down, so will be at the mercy of those with wheels on something besides an airplane. Hope to be flying in with John Williamson and Gary Haley. We will be camping with out airplanes in the UL/Lt Plane tie down area. Ya'll come. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:36 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" All the plastic brake lines I've seen use compression fittings that need no sealers. The metal brake lines use a "doubled" flare on the tubing, and again, no sealers are necessary. If you use standard tapered pipe fittings anywhere in the system, you WILL need a sealer. Use a dope that is rated for brake fluid. Above all - Do NOT use teflon tape. Used properly, teflon tape is fine for the 1st installation, but when you dis-assemble the part threads of it are left behind that can plug orifices later on, after re-assembly. FWIW, manufacturers of commercial gas appliances will void warranties if they find evidence of teflon tape in their equipment. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" > > Good Morning All > > I have been busy trying to get the MK III X ready for my DAR visit in the > next month or so. I don't post my emails but I do read the posts everyday > and have learned a great deal about flying and building the Kolb > airplanes. > > I'm in the middle of installing my hydraulic brakes and have a question. > Do you use some kind of anti siege or teflon tape or thread dope when > making up the fitting to the wheel brake and the pedal cylinder ? > > Thanks > > Jim Ballenger > Flying a FS KXP 447 > Building a MK III X > Virginia Beach, VA > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:35 AM PST US From: bryan green Subject: Re: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green Morning all adding to Larry's fine advice if you do use Teflon tape or dope on anything only a small amount is needed to seal the threads, keep it away from the end of the fitting as not to get it in your system and it's only for pipe threads. Bryan Green Elgin SC Firestar 447 BRS Larry Bourne wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > >All the plastic brake lines I've seen use compression fittings that need no >sealers. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim Ballenger" >To: >Subject: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES > > > > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" >> >>Good Morning All >> >>I have been busy trying to get the MK III X ready for my DAR visit in the >>next month or so. I don't post my emails but I do read the posts everyday >>and have learned a great deal about flying and building the Kolb >>airplanes. >> >>I'm in the middle of installing my hydraulic brakes and have a question. >>Do you use some kind of anti siege or teflon tape or thread dope when >>making up the fitting to the wheel brake and the pedal cylinder ? >> >>Thanks >> >>Jim Ballenger >>Flying a FS KXP 447 >>Building a MK III X >>Virginia Beach, VA >> >>DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:08 AM PST US From: "David Paule" Subject: Kolb-List: Alaska Trip and the Paraglider --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Paule" I'd buy the CD and probably the book, too. Add me to the list. =========== I used to fly a paraglider. I no longer do; it's currently in its bag under my desk, ready to go if I should ever change my mind. I quit due to the hazard - I knew too many people who'd crashed and survived and barely escaped being crippled. Finally one of the instructors went in and it took months of therapy for him to walk again. It remains one of the most fun aircraft I've ever flown. Perhaps the single most fun. It is a full-fledged aircraft that weighs about 40 pounds and packs up into a backpack. I got started doing it after meeting a man who would fly during his lunch hour. He worked near some cliffs over a beach, and would walk down to the cliffs, set up, launch, fly for about 45 minutes, land, pack up and return to work. It's the only type of aircraft I know of that you can do that with. Dave Paule Boulder, CO ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:30:56 AM PST US From: "Edward Steuber" Subject: Kolb-List: Marginal days of ultralight flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" In response to Richard Pikes comments about the early days of ultralights . The reason it took me so long to get into ultralights was my experience in watching the "shenanigans" going on at a strip I was cropdusting out of when I had just started my business at Palmers Field near Burt , New York ijn the mid 70's. There was a dealer that sold Wizard (weight shift) ultralights and trained the new owners at the field . The collection of "clients " was less than confidence inspiring....some normal people but a lot of what I would call "lunatic fringe" and coming from me......" really puts em out there" ! But the lack of basic aviation knowledge both of the new owners and the "instructors" was what was really scary..There was one dude that flew a Quicksiver that had installed wheelbarrow wheels for a landing gear cause he couldn't run (too fat) and for courage he would go behind the hangar and smoke dope till he had the correct amount for whatever personal aviation milestone he was going to accomplish that day. Took all summer before he actually got airborne and crashed in the woods off the end of the runway...When I got to him I found him sitting under a tree smoking and marveling about what a beautiful sight it was as he fell through the branches on his way down. Can you say "Flower Child "and yes he was wearing a Ty dye t shirt... I don't believe there was any longevity to any of the machines that were flown at that airport for the entire season ....I got to see quite a few spectacular wrecks with only a few broken bones . Most of the injuries were scrapes and raspberries....went through a few first aid kits....got to know the local ambulance driver by his first name...but the wrong impression I got was how poor the machines were....Marginal , but not poor. So until the sport evolved a little, my past experiences prejudiced me until I finally came to my senses after seeing the Kolbs.... Ed do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:01:20 AM PST US From: "PATRICK LADD" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Could have been tragical but finally hllarious ;-) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "PATRICK LADD" That parachute film was something. It seemed that he hit a thermal and his wing folded, at least you could hear his variometer screaming as he gained height just before the problem developed. If it had been me you could have hard me screaming as well. Cheers Pat do not archive -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:13:29 PM PST US From: Earl & Mim Zimmerman Subject: Kolb-List: GPS Advise --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman Does anyone have experience with a PDA GPS system similar to this? http://www.avshop.com/catalog/product.html?productid=5850 Which gps offers the best bang for the buck? Thanks in advance! ~ Earl -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:58 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS Advise --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England Earl & Mim Zimmerman wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman > >Does anyone have experience with a PDA GPS system similar to this? >http://www.avshop.com/catalog/product.html?productid=5850 >Which gps offers the best bang for the buck? Thanks in advance! >~ Earl > > > > I have several friends that have used it for years & love it. It's probably overkill for a Kolb unless you are looking at the obstructions database, which is impressive. The map looks just like a window over a sectional, so there's no learning curve in interpreting what you see. If you decide to go with the PDA option, then Anywhere Map gets my vote for software. Bang for the buck: I got a Garmin Pilot III & 2 Lightspeed noise cancelling headsets for less than the price of the Anywhere map system about 4 years ago. I gave up color, big screen & obstructions to get the headsets & cleaner installation (bluetooth wireless wasn't available then). Charlie ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:54 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" Richard/Larry/Bryan Thanks for your inputs. I'll keep them in mind. I need all the help I can find. This list has been invaluable. It seems as though about the time I am ready to start another phase of building someone asks the thought provoking question that keep me out of trouble. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > All the plastic brake lines I've seen use compression fittings that need no > sealers. The metal brake lines use a "doubled" flare on the tubing, and > again, no sealers are necessary. If you use standard tapered pipe fittings > anywhere in the system, you WILL need a sealer. Use a dope that is rated > for brake fluid. Above all - Do NOT use teflon tape. Used properly, teflon > tape is fine for the 1st installation, but when you dis-assemble the part > threads of it are left behind that can plug orifices later on, after > re-assembly. FWIW, manufacturers of commercial gas appliances will void > warranties if they find evidence of teflon tape in their equipment. > Lar. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Ballenger" > To: > Subject: Kolb-List: INSTALLATION OF OBRIEN HYDRAULIC BRAKES > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Ballenger" > > > > Good Morning All > > > > I have been busy trying to get the MK III X ready for my DAR visit in the > > next month or so. I don't post my emails but I do read the posts everyday > > and have learned a great deal about flying and building the Kolb > > airplanes. > > > > I'm in the middle of installing my hydraulic brakes and have a question. > > Do you use some kind of anti siege or teflon tape or thread dope when > > making up the fitting to the wheel brake and the pedal cylinder ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jim Ballenger > > Flying a FS KXP 447 > > Building a MK III X > > Virginia Beach, VA > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:43 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS Advise --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | http://www.avshop.com/catalog/product.html?productid=5850 | Which gps offers the best bang for the buck? Thanks in advance! | ~ Earl Earl/All: I have no experience with the PDA GPS. I do have several years experience with the Garmin 196. I used it to fly to Alaska last summer, plus other long flights in the lower 48. You can now buy one for less than you can buy the PDA GPS. It is compatible for air/land/sea. When I am not flying with it, I am using it to navigate when I travel on the ground. Has a lot more capability than I am able to use, but it is there if I need it. Bought mine from Aircraft Spruce after a lot of shopping and comparing on the internet. Take care, john h ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:02:23 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Marginal days of ultralight flying --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | So until the sport evolved a little, my past experiences prejudiced me until I finally came to my senses after seeing the Kolbs.... | Ed Hi Ed/Gang: I retired from the Army in 1980. Three and a half years later I was missing flying, but could not afford to get a civilian ticket, much less rent an airplane. Saw a weight Shift Quicksilver on display at Montgomery Mall, Montgomery, AL, summer 1983. Kinda looked it over and decided that that might be a way to get back into the air. Joined USUA, started getting Glider Rider Mag, joined EAA, bought all the airplane mags I saw in the news stands. Kept seeing this little back and white advertisement of a Kolb Ultrastar. Discovered an individual was in the process of building one at Noonan, GA. Bro Jim and I took a ride over there and inspected it. Decided then and there, that was going to be the airplane I built when I could come up with the money. Prior to finding the Ultrastar, I looked at Cobras, Eippers, Eagles, and a Wizzard. Even drove down to South Florida to take a look at the Wizzard Factory. Was not impressed. Left shaking my head. The selling factors for the Ultrastar were primarily A&E hardware, 4130 steel, certified covering and finish, aircraft cables instead of sash cord, real 3 axis controls. Sure am glad I made that decision. March 1984, 21 years ago I started building my Ultrastar as soon as I got back from my first Sun and Fun Flyin. Back then the flyin was held in March. Three months later I had finished my US and was getting ready to make the first flight. Been a lot of flights ago. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:53 PM PST US From: "H MITCHELL" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Flight Report/New Airstrip/Sun and Fun 2005 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:52:16 -0500 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" Hello John H et al, The Mark3X/VW was built by Don Mullis at Wakulla County Arpt. (AKA Panacea, Tarpine). It is a unique machine with aluminum skinned Fuselage and a converted VW Engine. He had some problems getting used to a high thrust-lined, draggy pusher but was happy with the final results. He has since sold his place and moved to new ground on the shore of Lake Seminole. Don is an industrious guy and will get his new strip done pronto. I will post the Lat Long when it is a little further along. I will be at Lakeland on the 13th, 14th and 15th. Count on me for hauling guys to the Bar-B-Que place. The wind here was up to 30 MPH today. When I had my sail boat it never seemed to get over 5 MPH. Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL Mk3c/912 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Flight Report/New Airstrip/Sun and Fun 2005 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" | A friend of mine and fellow Kolber (Mk3X/VW) is building a new strip on land somewhere West of Bainbridge, GA | Duane the plane Mitchell Duane Zee Plane/Gang: First I have heard of a new MKIIIX/VW. Anybody we know? Be sure and post some GPS coordinates when you get them for his new airstrip. That is right on my route of flight to TLH and Quincy. Great to hear you MKIII is flying well. I have not flown in a while. Doesn't look like I will today either. We are having Jack Hart winds, 25 mph, yesterday and today. Had to put tie downs on the John Deere and the Case this morning to keep them from blowing away. This time next month we will be at Sun and Fun. How many on the List going to try and make it to Lakeland this year? We need to get coordinated for a get together at the Kolb trailer and a BBQ dinner in Lakeland. I will be flying down, so will be at the mercy of those with wheels on something besides an airplane. Hope to be flying in with John Williamson and Gary Haley. We will be camping with out airplanes in the UL/Lt Plane tie down area. Ya'll come. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:18 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk3/912 Flight Report/New Airstrip/Sun and Fun 2005 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Panacea, Tarpine). It is a unique machine with aluminum skinned Fuselage and a converted VW Engine. | Duane the plane Mitchell, Tallahassee, FL Mk3c/912 Duane/Gang: I remember looking at this airplane when he was in the infant construction stages, during a flight down to Panacea to eat mullet. Was wondering how many hours were on the airplane at this time and how the sheet metal skin is holding up. Also how the VW conversion is performing. Take care, john h PS: Need to get him on the Kolb List so he can share his experiences with us. DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:53 PM PST US From: "Rick Pearce" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS Advise --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rick Pearce" It looks like about what I have been looking for after my bad experience with the Lowerance airmap 300. With the blue tooth can you also tie in a cell phone and get current weather radar? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earl & Mim Zimmerman" Subject: Kolb-List: GPS Advise > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Earl & Mim Zimmerman > > Does anyone have experience with a PDA GPS system similar to this? > http://www.avshop.com/catalog/product.html?productid=5850 > Which gps offers the best bang for the buck? Thanks in advance! > ~ Earl > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >