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1. 06:23 AM - Re: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category (ul15rhb@juno.com)
2. 07:31 AM - Re: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category (John Jung)
3. 08:21 AM - Re: Condition inspections and maintenance (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford))
4. 08:43 AM - ELSA-LSA-EXP/AB (robert bean)
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| Subject: | Re: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category |
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ul15rhb@juno.com" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
Hi Dave,
In answering your questions:
1) You can do the maintenance, but will have to take the 16-hour course if registered
Experimental ELSA. If you built your Firestar, you can register it Experimental
AB (Amateur Built), and don't have to take the course but will get the
repairman's cert. Either way, it's an LSA aircraft if it's under 1320 lbs empty.
2) It can be an Experimental AB or ELSA, depending how you register it. Again,
both are Sport Light Aircraft.
3) Part 91 applies, but since you have a PPL and higher licenses, you have other
privileges a new Sport Pilot doesn't have.
I hope this helps. Here are some websites to help answer more questions:
http://www.sportpilot.org/
http://www.usua.org/SportPilot/
http://afs600.faa.gov/
Ralph
-- "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net>
Been reading the posts regarding conversion to Sports category, and am a bit confused!
I have a single seat Firestar 2 that I'm flying as a fat ultralight.
I want to eventually convert it to Sport category. I built it, and do have a
private pilot (plus commercial and ATP) rating. Here are the questions I hope
someone will answer:
1. I want to do all the maintenance, plus the annual inspection. Do I have to
take the 16 hour course, or does having a PP license exempt me from that requirement?
2. When I register the FS in the sport category, does it become an experimental
amateur built aircraft in the sport category, or something else?
3. Part 103 operational restrictions are pretty loose (altitude restrictions,
etc.). Experimental Aircraft restrictions under Part 91 are more restrictive
(IE 500 feet from nearest person, structure, etc). Do Light Experimental Sport
Aircraft have their own set of operational restrictions, or do those in Part
91 apply?
Thanks in Advance,
Dave Bigelow
FS2
Kamuela, Hawaii
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| Subject: | Re: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
Dave and Group,
I'm no expert, but I'll give my best answers, and then anyone with more
knowledge can correct me.
>1. I want to do all the maintenance, plus the annual inspection. Do
I have to
>take the 16 hour course, or does having a PP license exempt me from
that requirement?
The way I understand it, you would have to take the 120 hour course to
do both.
>2. When I register the FS in the sport category, does it become an
experimental
>amateur built aircraft in the sport category, or something else?
It would be something else, Experimental-Light Sport Aircraft. But since
you built it, you could chose to register it as Experimental-AB, and
apply for the repairman certificate.
>3. Part 103 operational restrictions are pretty loose (altitude
restrictions,
>etc.). Experimental Aircraft restrictions under Part 91 are more
restrictive
>(IE 500 feet from nearest person, structure, etc). Do Light
Experimental Sport
>Aircraft have their own set of operational restrictions, or do those
in Part
>91 apply?
The same restrictions apply as other aircraft. When I flew ultralights,
I always assumed that the restrictions were not looser, and I stayed 500
ft from people and buildings. The only problem that I had was that my
normal ultralight flying occasionally went into the definition of
aerobatic (steep climbs and descents).
John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Condition inspections and maintenance |
message of Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:56:39 -0800
--> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)
If one builds an aircraft and completes 51% or greater, documents
his construction with a builders log (preferably with pics), and
applies for and is GRANTED an airman's repairman certificate, this
repairman's certificate allows the builder/recipient to do any and all
repairs/maintenance on THAT aircraft...and THAT aircraft only, including
its annual "condition inspection." In building 51% or greater of your
aircraft you have become the manufacturer, be it a kit or plans-built.
Logic says that the builder/manufacturer should know his completed
aircraft better than anyone...
If the repairmans certificate was granted to the builder as in
above and the aircraft is subsequently sold, the builder MAY continue to
legally make future repairs and condition inspections on that same
plane...and ONLY that plane.
My two cents...which won't buy much today
Hillbilly Mike Happy Easter everyone
(hi George)
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Group, the current Kitplanes mag has some outlines that appear
fairly accurate.
Unless you intend to turn the ownership over soon I would go
the exp-ab route for the repairman's certificate.
I'm going to keep my pile-o-rivets until I can't fly anymore.
-off to gobble some ham with the relatives.
Happy Easter
-BB do not archive
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