---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/27/05: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:23 AM - Re: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category (ul15rhb@juno.com) 2. 07:31 AM - Re: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category (John Jung) 3. 08:21 AM - Re: Condition inspections and maintenance (dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford)) 4. 08:43 AM - ELSA-LSA-EXP/AB (robert bean) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:29 AM PST US From: "ul15rhb@juno.com" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category c421892441155d4139345d113415b534d19d7134807179a1809db9d96dfd41541da47d217d7429844d908444919029e9b9e0e59020e1c020008de159c059590d4dd514645175f9c9b124c92d94b1652465 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ul15rhb@juno.com" Hi Dave, In answering your questions: 1) You can do the maintenance, but will have to take the 16-hour course if registered Experimental ELSA. If you built your Firestar, you can register it Experimental AB (Amateur Built), and don't have to take the course but will get the repairman's cert. Either way, it's an LSA aircraft if it's under 1320 lbs empty. 2) It can be an Experimental AB or ELSA, depending how you register it. Again, both are Sport Light Aircraft. 3) Part 91 applies, but since you have a PPL and higher licenses, you have other privileges a new Sport Pilot doesn't have. I hope this helps. Here are some websites to help answer more questions: http://www.sportpilot.org/ http://www.usua.org/SportPilot/ http://afs600.faa.gov/ Ralph -- "David L. Bigelow" wrote: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" Been reading the posts regarding conversion to Sports category, and am a bit confused! I have a single seat Firestar 2 that I'm flying as a fat ultralight. I want to eventually convert it to Sport category. I built it, and do have a private pilot (plus commercial and ATP) rating. Here are the questions I hope someone will answer: 1. I want to do all the maintenance, plus the annual inspection. Do I have to take the 16 hour course, or does having a PP license exempt me from that requirement? 2. When I register the FS in the sport category, does it become an experimental amateur built aircraft in the sport category, or something else? 3. Part 103 operational restrictions are pretty loose (altitude restrictions, etc.). Experimental Aircraft restrictions under Part 91 are more restrictive (IE 500 feet from nearest person, structure, etc). Do Light Experimental Sport Aircraft have their own set of operational restrictions, or do those in Part 91 apply? Thanks in Advance, Dave Bigelow FS2 Kamuela, Hawaii Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:17 AM PST US From: John Jung Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category --> Kolb-List message posted by: John Jung Dave and Group, I'm no expert, but I'll give my best answers, and then anyone with more knowledge can correct me. >1. I want to do all the maintenance, plus the annual inspection. Do I have to >take the 16 hour course, or does having a PP license exempt me from that requirement? The way I understand it, you would have to take the 120 hour course to do both. >2. When I register the FS in the sport category, does it become an experimental >amateur built aircraft in the sport category, or something else? It would be something else, Experimental-Light Sport Aircraft. But since you built it, you could chose to register it as Experimental-AB, and apply for the repairman certificate. >3. Part 103 operational restrictions are pretty loose (altitude restrictions, >etc.). Experimental Aircraft restrictions under Part 91 are more restrictive >(IE 500 feet from nearest person, structure, etc). Do Light Experimental Sport >Aircraft have their own set of operational restrictions, or do those in Part >91 apply? The same restrictions apply as other aircraft. When I flew ultralights, I always assumed that the restrictions were not looser, and I stayed 500 ft from people and buildings. The only problem that I had was that my normal ultralight flying occasionally went into the definition of aerobatic (steep climbs and descents). John Jung Firestar II N6163J Surprise, AZ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:38 AM PST US From: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Condition inspections and maintenance message of Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:56:39 -0800 --> Kolb-List message posted by: dixieshack@webtv.net (Mike and Dixie Shackelford) If one builds an aircraft and completes 51% or greater, documents his construction with a builders log (preferably with pics), and applies for and is GRANTED an airman's repairman certificate, this repairman's certificate allows the builder/recipient to do any and all repairs/maintenance on THAT aircraft...and THAT aircraft only, including its annual "condition inspection." In building 51% or greater of your aircraft you have become the manufacturer, be it a kit or plans-built. Logic says that the builder/manufacturer should know his completed aircraft better than anyone... If the repairmans certificate was granted to the builder as in above and the aircraft is subsequently sold, the builder MAY continue to legally make future repairs and condition inspections on that same plane...and ONLY that plane. My two cents...which won't buy much today Hillbilly Mike Happy Easter everyone (hi George) do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:09 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: ELSA-LSA-EXP/AB --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Group, the current Kitplanes mag has some outlines that appear fairly accurate. Unless you intend to turn the ownership over soon I would go the exp-ab route for the repairman's certificate. I'm going to keep my pile-o-rivets until I can't fly anymore. -off to gobble some ham with the relatives. Happy Easter -BB do not archive