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1. 01:10 AM - Fw: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category (David L. Bigelow)
2. 05:22 AM - Sun n Fun Kolb Gathering(s) (H MITCHELL)
3. 06:59 AM - Fat Ultralight to Sport Category (Richard Pike)
4. 07:39 AM - Fw: message Linda's Farewell (John Hauck)
5. 08:05 AM - Re: 6-gallon gas tanks revisited (Mike Thomason)
6. 04:46 PM - Re: Sun n Fun Kolb Gathering(s) (Kolbdriver)
7. 07:31 PM - Re: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category (David L. Bigelow)
8. 07:52 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Brs on Firefly (Robert Laird)
9. 07:55 PM - Re: Sun n Fun Kolb Gathering(s) (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Fw: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net>
Thanks for the replies.
From what I've gathered from the response to my questions and researching the links,
here are the answers:
1. Experimental Light Sport Aircraft Category - anyone can do the maintenance.
The annual has to be done by a Repairman or A&P. The owner/builder can take
the 16 hour course and be certified as a Repairman for that particular aircraft
only.
2. Experimental Amateur Built - builder can obtain a Repairman certificate for
that particular aircraft only. This enables him to do any maintenance and the
annual inspection.
The experimental amateur built category is set up for inspections during the building
process. Can you go the AB route with an aircraft that is already finished
and has flying time? Has anyone on this list done that? I'd be interested
in their experiences with the FAA.
Thanks,
Dave Bigelow
FS2
Kamuela, HI
----- Original Message -----
From: David L. Bigelow
Subject: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category
Been reading the posts regarding conversion to Sports category, and am a bit confused!
I have a single seat Firestar 2 that I'm flying as a fat ultralight.
I want to eventually convert it to Sport category. I built it, and do have a
private pilot (plus commercial and ATP) rating. Here are the questions I hope
someone will answer:
1. I want to do all the maintenance, plus the annual inspection. Do I have to
take the 16 hour course, or does having a PP license exempt me from that requirement?
2. When I register the FS in the sport category, does it become an experimental
amateur built aircraft in the sport category, or something else?
3. Part 103 operational restrictions are pretty loose (altitude restrictions,
etc.). Experimental Aircraft restrictions under Part 91 are more restrictive
(IE 500 feet from nearest person, structure, etc). Do Light Experimental Sport
Aircraft have their own set of operational restrictions, or do those in Part
91 apply?
Thanks in Advance,
Dave Bigelow
FS2
Kamuela, Hawaii
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| Subject: | Sun n Fun Kolb Gathering(s) |
Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:21:17 -0500
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
We need to agree on where we can meet and socialize.
Lets' get together Thursday night after the vendor exhibits close down. That will
give the early campers some time to settle in and not interfere with Sat night's
light show. We can either go to the bar-b-que place and eat or eat something
on-site then meet at the camp ground. Maybe two nights ?
Open to suggestion,
Duane the plane Mitchell
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| Subject: | Fat Ultralight to Sport Category |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
At 11:08 PM 3/28/2005 -1000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net>
><snip>
>
>The experimental amateur built category is set up for inspections during
>the building process. Can you go the AB route with an aircraft that is
>already finished and has flying time? Has anyone on this list done
>that? I'd be interested in their experiences with the FAA.
>
>Thanks,
>Dave Bigelow
>FS2
>Kamuela, HI
Yes. If the aircraft was included in the FAA's list of aircraft that
qualified for that category (not totally prefabbed / just bolt it together
and go) or if you have a way of showing that it was amateur built. Are
there pictures of the building process? Can you prove that it was amateur
built and not factory built? In other words, there is a process in place
for licensing an Experimental Amateur Built aircraft, can you prove that
your ultralight/fat ultralight fits those parameters? Or can you create a
paper trail good enough to make the feds happy?
Not having had inspections during the building process should not be a real
problem. Back in 1983, I built a Maxair Hummer and flew it for a year as a
legal ultralight, but because I live (and have a grass strip) inside the
Class D airspace, life under Part 103 was complicated. So I licensed it
into part 91, Experimental, Amateur Built.
I would suggest you talk to whoever is going to do the actual inspection
,(DAR) make sure that your ducks are pretty much in a row ahead of time
(your local EAA Technical Advisor can help you out) and see if there are
any particular hoops that DAR wants jumped through, but it out to be pretty
straightforward.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Fw: message Linda's Farewell |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Morning All:
Linda asked me to forward the following msg for her. We will all miss her help
when we call Kolb.
john h
----- Original Message -----
From: KOLB AIRCRAFT
Subject: message
Hi John,
I would ask a favor of you.
Can you please post this message on the Kolb List for me.
I will be leaving New Kolb Aircraft effective this Wednesday, 3/30/05.
I wanted to say goodbye to everyone. I have thoroughly enjoyed working
with all of you and wish everyone the very best in life.
Take care John and everyone.
Linda
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| Subject: | Re: 6-gallon gas tanks revisited |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Thomason" <thomason@scrtc.com>
I got a good chuckle out of this too, and I haven't received mine yet
either. Glad to be informed as to what the hold up is.
Mike Thomason
FF #17
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| Subject: | Re: Sun n Fun Kolb Gathering(s) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Sounds good to me. If the winds and weather are favorable I should arrive
just in time to go eat. (depends on what time the exhibits close down!) I
plan to leave MMI at sunrise on Thursday.
Steven Green
MKIII 912S
----- Original Message -----
From: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Sun n Fun Kolb Gathering(s)
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" <mitchmnd@msn.com>
>
>
> We need to agree on where we can meet and socialize.
>
> Lets' get together Thursday night after the vendor exhibits close down.
That will give the early campers some time to settle in and not interfere
with Sat night's light show. We can either go to the bar-b-que place and eat
or eat something on-site then meet at the camp ground. Maybe two nights ?
>
> Open to suggestion,
> Duane the plane Mitchell
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Fat Ultralight to Sport Category |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net>
Thanks for the reply, Richard. I think I'll continue to fly my bird under Part
103 until sometime in early 2007. By that time things with the Sport Rule will
have stabilized. Hopefully, there will be a correspondance version of the
16 hour course available by then. If not, I'll jump through the necessary hoops
and register it as AB.Dave Bigelow--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard
Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
At 11:08 PM 3/28/2005 -1000, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David L. Bigelow" <dlbigelow@verizon.net>
><snip>
>
>The experimental amateur built category is set up for inspections during
>the building process. Can you go the AB route with an aircraft that is
>already finished and has flying time? Has anyone on this list done
>that? I'd be interested in their experiences with the FAA.
>
>Thanks,
>Dave Bigelow
>FS2
>Kamuela, HI
Yes. If the aircraft was included in the FAA's list of aircraft that
qualified for that category (not totally prefabbed / just bolt it together
and go) or if you have a way of showing that it was amateur built. Are
there pictures of the building process? Can you prove that it was amateur
built and not factory built? In other words, there is a process in place
for licensing an Experimental Amateur Built aircraft, can you prove that
your ultralight/fat ultralight fits those parameters? Or can you create a
paper trail good enough to make the feds happy?
Not having had inspections during the building process should not be a real
problem. Back in 1983, I built a Maxair Hummer and flew it for a year as a
legal ultralight, but because I live (and have a grass strip) inside the
Class D airspace, life under Part 103 was complicated. So I licensed it
into part 91, Experimental, Amateur Built.
I would suggest you talk to whoever is going to do the actual inspection
,(DAR) make sure that your ducks are pretty much in a row ahead of time
(your local EAA Technical Advisor can help you out) and see if there are
any particular hoops that DAR wants jumped through, but it out to be pretty
straightforward.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Brs on Firefly |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Ed --
I just got an email from Guy Morgan... he has a Firefly out at Galveston
(Scholes Field) with a BRS installed in it... He wanted me to let you know
he's more than happy to let you come out and see it. He can be reached
at morganguy@hotmail.com ...
-- Robert
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| Subject: | Re: Sun n Fun Kolb Gathering(s) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Flycrazy8@aol.com
Does anyone know what it costs to camp in the campground (or under wing) at
Sun-N-Fun ?
Thanks
Steve
Bama Firefly
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