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1. 03:49 AM - Re: q (russ kinne)
2. 05:45 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
3. 07:51 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
4. 08:04 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
5. 09:59 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
6. 01:51 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
7. 02:57 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
8. 02:59 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
9. 03:27 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
10. 03:51 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
11. 04:22 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
12. 04:35 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
13. 05:02 PM - Re: Kolb List (bryan green)
14. 05:05 PM - Re: Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Jimmy)
15. 05:06 PM - Re: Tailwind-List: Wally's return (bryan green)
16. 05:07 PM - Re: Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Bob N.)
17. 05:32 PM - Wally Messages Stopped! (Matt Dralle)
18. 05:32 PM - Fw: Click (Dale Sellers)
19. 07:26 PM - Aerodynamics Background (David Paule)
20. 07:33 PM - Re: Mid Atlantic Fly- in (Richard Pike)
21. 08:07 PM - Re: Kolb List (Richard Swiderwski)
22. 08:14 PM - Re: Mid Atlantic Fly- in (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
23. 08:37 PM - Kolb list electric trim tab (Steve Garvelink)
24. 10:09 PM - Steve Gravelink (Dale Sellers)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Right on, big Lar! Wonder what else he doesn't know --
On Apr 10, 2005, at 1:09 AM, Edward Chmielewski wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski"
> <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I wuz gonna reply BC, but what the hey...
>
> Gogittum, Lar!!
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>> I'd be very interested in your definition of "arrogant." Seems to me
>> there's about 30 or so outgoing people who took up an open ended
>> invitation
>> to join like minded people for a very enjoyable outing. I'm very
>> sorry -
>> for you - if you have issues with that. By the way, it's spelled
>> "clique."
>> Didn't you also have issues not too long ago with a small group who
>> were
>> enjoying themselves with the "gaiters" thread.
>> Hmmmm..............???
>> Seems like someone recently had issues with our good friend Mr.
>> Hauck, as
>> well.........??? Hmmmm..................??? Big
>> Bad
>> Ol' Lar. Do not Archive.
>>
>> Larry Bourne
>> Palm Springs, CA
>> Building Kolb Mk III
>> N78LB Vamoose
>> www.gogittum.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q
>>
>>
>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>> Yep Jerb,
>>>
>>> We'll have to shut the list down while their gone I guess. You got
>>> it
>>> right
>>> about the click and the arrogant thingie too!Dale Sellers
>>> Georgia UltraStar
>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "jerb" <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
>>>>
>>>> That's funny Dale, I thought the very same thing. Guess were just
>>>> not
>>>> part
>>>> of the click. I think you have to be arrogant to belong.
>>>> jerb
>>>>
>>>> At 11:06 PM 4/8/05 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers"
>>>>> <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> John & all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that mean that everyone on the list is going to Monument
>>>>> Valley?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dale Sellers
>>>>> Georgia UltraStar
>>>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>>>>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: q
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"
>>>>>> <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> | Would there be any Kolbers in the Memphis area around May
>>>>>> 16th?
>>>>>> Or
>>>>>> | New Orleans May 22-23?
>>>>>> | Or Seattle April 30-May 3 or so?
>>>>>> | Russ Kinne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russ/Gang:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're going to be at Monument Valley 21-23 May, then strung out up
>>>>>> towards the Seattle area, then east and south to Alabama.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need to adjust your schedule. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> john h
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Hi Ellery the only thing I can suggest is look at adding longer gear
legs, this moves the wheels forward a bit and may save you a lot of work.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Firestar 447 BRS Powerfin
ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
>
>Original Firestar Mods
>I am rebuilding my Original firestar and just wanted to know if anyone has
>done any modifications to where the leg sockets are, I am thinking I will move
>the bottom of them forward a bit to help prevent nose overs especially on skis
>in sticky snow .
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>Original Firestar in Maine
> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
> DO
>NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net>
Wally don't know where you have been, please go back.
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green <lgreen1@sc.rr.com>
Welcome back Walley let up on the coffee before ya hit dat sind button.
Bryan Green Elgin SC
Do not archive
Walter Critchlow wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
>
>Interested parties .. I'm back.
>The south will never be the same
> W.C.
> C/FRDF
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." <ronoy@shentel.net>
OK Ok Ok Ok Ok Ok Walter, so you're back! Geez that's NINE TIMES! Four
more now!
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Bob N.
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| Subject: | Wally Messages Stopped! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
My sincere apologies! At about 4:30am this morning there was an odd system
problem on the Matornics email server, causing many mail files to become
marked as "read-only". This wedged many of the List filters causing all
sorts of weird behavior. Perhaps the oddest was that an innocent message
from Walter Critchlow, kept getting posted instead of the actual incoming
List message.
If you receive this message, and sent a list message to any of the lists
shown below between the hours of 4:30am and 5:15pm PDT on Sunday Apr 10th,
your message was one of the ones that got subverted. Please repost your
message to the respective list.
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Again, my sincere apologies for the problems. I was doing my Taxes (!)
today and wasn't keeping as close an eye on the Lists as I normally do.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Click
> Let me make sure I got it right. I deleted that message before I took
> time to study it good. Was it C-L-I-Q-U-E? Correct me if I'm wrong now.
>
> Dale Sellers
> Georgia UltraStar
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Aerodynamics Background |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
A sound general introduction to all sorts of aerodynamic knowledge:
http://www.aerodyn.org, according to Peter Garrison.
Dave Paule
(I've just skimmed part of it....)
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| Subject: | Re: Mid Atlantic Fly- in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
Nope. Those guys are hard core, I'm just a fair weather flyer.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
At 07:39 PM 4/9/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>
>Thanks,
>Too far for me. Even if I'm flapping as hard as I can. You in the monument
>valley click?
>
>Dale Sellers
>do not archive
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mid Atlantic Fly- in
>
>
> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
> >
> > Lumberton, NC
> > http://www.celebrationofflightnc.com/
> >
> > Richard Pike
> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> >
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <rswiderski@earthlink.net>
Ellery,
An alternative to relocating your gearleg sockets would be to go
with a chromoly steel, .060-.090" (I am just guestamating on this, I believe
the archives have wall thickness on steel legs that have been used in the
past. John H. made some for his old FS. He has the Rockwell hardness number
also.) wall thickness & put a gradual forward bend into them & make them as
long as possible. Between the extra length & the forward bend, you should
easily get the distance you need. After you have them bent & the axle welded
on, all the holes drilled, get them heat treated & you will be on your way!
I moved my old UltraStar's gear forward & was happy I did, as I used the
brakes on some very short dead-end strips & never could have done that
before. ...Richard Swiderski
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ElleryWeld@aol.com
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb List
--> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Original Firestar Mods
I am rebuilding my Original firestar and just wanted to know if anyone has
done any modifications to where the leg sockets are, I am thinking I will
move
the bottom of them forward a bit to help prevent nose overs especially on
skis
in sticky snow .
Has anyone got any ideas or info as to what I would need to do to accomplish
this?
Welding is not a problem so I just need to know what to do about the wing
strut mounting point should I move that also and make modifications to my
wing
strut length and or is this safe enough to move wing strut point forward
with
gear Leg sockets.
if anyone has done this and has Pictures I would like to have a peek if you
dont mind.
Thanks in advance
Original Firestar in Maine
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
DO
NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Mid Atlantic Fly- in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Guys,
Y'know, I usually don't bother responding to the insulting, name calling
messages but this "clique" stuff really irritates me. Like Lar said, MV
started by individuals on the list who mostly had never met one another
deciding to meet one another at Monument Valley. We went and had such a
great time that we decided to make it an unofficial annual event. This is
the third time. Some people there were "lurkers," others were frequent
commenters and others were once-in-a-while commenters. No one had axes to
grind and we didn't spend our time talking about folks on the list or even
talking about the list. It may surprise you, but mostly we talked about
Kolbs, Monument Valley and other airplane related stuff. Everyone had a
great time.
Now if you check the dictionary, a "clique" is a small group of people
who exclude others. Now I don't know of anyone who wanted to go to Monument
Valley who was excluded. As a matter of fact, there were even non-Kolb
owners there and one guy (at least) who didn't have an airplane yet. We
invited anyone and everyone, and there were really no "invitations" made
because nobody was "in charge" to make them. Whoever wanted to come came
and that's still the way it is. In fact, there is a (gulp) Challenger owner
who is talking about coming up this year. So if it makes you guys feel big
and strong by insulting those who go to MV, then go ahead. But if you do, I
think you'd better do the same for all the events, the Sun & Fun clique, the
Homer's fly in clique, etc. And if you want to take issue with this, my
phone number is below. (Oh, and some or us trailered our planes up there,
me included, so we're probably considered fair weather flyers, and that's
jess fine with me 'cuz thats what I am.)
AzDave
928 771-2295
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mid Atlantic Fly- in
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> Nope. Those guys are hard core, I'm just a fair weather flyer.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> At 07:39 PM 4/9/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Too far for me. Even if I'm flapping as hard as I can. You in the
>>monument
>>valley click?
>>
>>Dale Sellers
>>do not archive
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
>>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mid Atlantic Fly- in
>>
>>
>> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>> >
>> > Lumberton, NC
>> > http://www.celebrationofflightnc.com/
>> >
>> > Richard Pike
>> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kolb list electric trim tab |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steve Garvelink" <link@cdc.net>
This is a link to a clever electric trim system that appears very easy
to do
Thought you guys would be interested in this arrangement.
SRGLINK
http://www.n566aj.com/max/frugal.htm
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" <dsel1@bellsouth.net>
Steve.
I enjoyed our phone conversation this evening. If there is anything I can
do to help with your Ultra Star project, don't hesitate to ask. What kind
of damage do you have to your cage?
Dale Sellers
Georgia UltraStar
do not archive
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