---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/11/05: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:29 AM - Here is my Kolb from the satellite !!! (Noel Bouchard) 2. 05:52 AM - Whatever ! (Edward Steuber) 3. 10:34 AM - [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)) 4. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: 6 gallon tanks (Denny Rowe) 5. 05:34 PM - Back on line (Denny Rowe) 6. 06:12 PM - Re: Kolb List (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 7. 06:20 PM - Re: Kolb List (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 8. 07:06 PM - Re: Mid Atlantic Fly- in (Richard Pike) 9. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: 6 gallon tanks (HShack@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:03 AM PST US From: Noel Bouchard Subject: Kolb-List: Here is my Kolb from the satellite !!! --> Kolb-List message posted by: Noel Bouchard Hello Group ! Just wanted to give the address of a great new satellite maps tools provided by Google. http://maps.google.com/ Just go to this page and click on the Satelite link at the upper right of the page. The resolution vary but some cities have a very high resolution ... I was even able to spot my Kolb Twinstar MkII on the field !!! ... Near Montreal, Canada. Great tools for trip planing, to find safe flying terrain (farmands ... etc) ! You can even create a link to a given map by using the "Link to this page" link on the Google map page ! See this : http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Montreal,Canada&ll=45.689607,-73.826108&spn=0.006019,0.009205&t=k&hl=en If you look in the center of the picture you should see 3 yellow planes ... Mine is the one on the leftmost side ... ! The one beside is an original 1946 Piper Cub and the other one is a Zenair CH-701 You can also see another white plane on the "runway" and another parked one. I suspect this picture to have been taken last summer (or maybe the one before) It would be fun if all (who are interrested) would try to spot their plane and post the www address as above. Of course many planes are in hangards but ... it can still be interresting to see the field area ... Hope many will participate ! Nol -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:43 AM PST US From: "Edward Steuber" Subject: Kolb-List: Whatever ! --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Edward Steuber" Hey guys, In the words of that great philosopher, Rodney King , "can't we all just get along ?" When I was a young Marine you could have a brawl with a buddy and buy him a drink that night at the club...I hope that's how we are all looking at this confrontation "stuff ". Keep it Kolb related ! Ed Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:14 AM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Subject: Kolb-List: [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... --> Kolb-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) System problems continue to plague the Matronics Email server. Incoming List mail was being rejected from about 12am Monday morning until about 10am PDT Monday 4/11. It is unclear at this time what is causing the system problem, but I am feverishly working on the issue. I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of the subscribe/unsubscribe requests since the 6th. You may have just received a subscribe/unsubscribe request and the FAQ if you've subscribed/unsubscribed since the 6th. At this time new posts are being processed and operation should be considered normal. More as information developes... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin DO NOT ARCHIVE -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:16 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 6 gallon tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > Denny, > > Why not fill one of those 6 gallon tanks with water and drop it from five > or six > feet and see what happens. If it survives and the lid stays on after a > few drops > you can feel comfortable with it on your plane. These tanks are certified > for > shipping hazardous liquids like acids and such; they should pass the test. > I can > tell you the six gallon on my KXP has performed well. The thinner sides > can > buckle in a little over time if you over-tighten the hold down straps, but > that is > my only gripe. It has been comforting to have that extra gallon. > > I searched the web for over a year before I found this tank. If anyone > finds > another source for a drop in tank over five gallons, please post it to the > list. > If the tanks don't pass your drop test, please let me know. I will go > back to the > factory original. > > Fly safe, > > Roger in Oregon > > Roger, You have convinced me to give these buggers a try, I can always switch back. Thanks. Denny > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:07 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Kolb-List: Back on line --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" Kolbers My computer crapped out almost two weeks ago so I have not been able to reply to the list, forgive the coming burst of replys from me as I wade through this mess :-) Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:02 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb List --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com Longer legs dont help any in the original version of the firestar the leg sockets dont angle forward at all I am thinking I can move the top back easier and with the longer gear legs I will have the problem solved Thanks for your reply Original Firestar in Maine Ellery ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:48 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb List --> Kolb-List message posted by: ElleryWeld@aol.com Thanks for your reply but I think I will make new gear leg sockets to accept the bigger gear legs and move the top of the gear leg sockets back about two inches I think this will be the best fix for me I really don't want to bend the gear legs to make it work ok and look weird Now I just gotta get a look at a newer model of the gear leg sockets to see what angle there at Thanks for your reply anyway Rebuilding and modifying an Original firestar in Maine Ellery ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:40 PM PST US From: Richard Pike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mid Atlantic Fly- in --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike Dave, you took me wrong. My referring to myself as a "fair weather flyer" was not meant to be an insult, but an acknowledgement of just how I see myself. I have the greatest admiration for all the guys on the list - especially the two Johns - who fly all over the country and in all kinds of conditions that I am not willing to take a chance on - especially with a 582. And by the way, "Hard Core" is a compliment. Our church congregation meets in a building used during the week by a martial arts school, and one of their mottos is that no body makes black belt unless they are hard core, those who are not "hard core" drop out first. Consequently, I see our long cross country Kolbers as "hard core." Neither do I think that those going to Monument Valley are a clique. If there is a clique, then it is probably comprised of everyone who owns a Kolb, likes a Kolb, or wishes they had a Kolb. Neither am I the one who started the recent term "click", the only thing I was interested in was if anybody was going to the comparatively adjacent (only 4 hours away) fly in at Lumberton SC, and was simply responding to a question about it. So don't include me with those who might be troubling themselves about a "click", I don't have a dog in that fight. But if I had more time off, the financial resources, and confidence in the weather to behave, (or a trailer for the MKIII) I would be at Monument Valley instead of Lumberton, and I wish all who are going out west a great flight and a great time. And if any of you "hard core" guys get anywhere close to East Tennessee on your travels, I would be honored for you to stop in at Indian Springs airport (3TN0), be glad to show you some Southern Hospitality. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) At 08:14 PM 4/10/2005 -0700, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" > > >Guys, > > Y'know, I usually don't bother responding to the insulting, name calling >messages but this "clique" stuff really irritates me. Like Lar said, MV >started by individuals on the list who mostly had never met one another >deciding to meet one another at Monument Valley. We went and had such a >great time that we decided to make it an unofficial annual event. This is >the third time. Some people there were "lurkers," others were frequent >commenters and others were once-in-a-while commenters. No one had axes to >grind and we didn't spend our time talking about folks on the list or even >talking about the list. It may surprise you, but mostly we talked about >Kolbs, Monument Valley and other airplane related stuff. Everyone had a >great time. > > Now if you check the dictionary, a "clique" is a small group of people >who exclude others. Now I don't know of anyone who wanted to go to Monument >Valley who was excluded. As a matter of fact, there were even non-Kolb >owners there and one guy (at least) who didn't have an airplane yet. We >invited anyone and everyone, and there were really no "invitations" made >because nobody was "in charge" to make them. Whoever wanted to come came >and that's still the way it is. In fact, there is a (gulp) Challenger owner >who is talking about coming up this year. So if it makes you guys feel big >and strong by insulting those who go to MV, then go ahead. But if you do, I >think you'd better do the same for all the events, the Sun & Fun clique, the >Homer's fly in clique, etc. And if you want to take issue with this, my >phone number is below. (Oh, and some or us trailered our planes up there, >me included, so we're probably considered fair weather flyers, and that's >jess fine with me 'cuz thats what I am.) > >AzDave >928 771-2295 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard Pike" >To: >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mid Atlantic Fly- in > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > > > > Nope. Those guys are hard core, I'm just a fair weather flyer. > > > > Richard Pike > > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > > At 07:39 PM 4/9/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > > >>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dale Sellers" > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Too far for me. Even if I'm flapping as hard as I can. You in the > >>monument > >>valley click? > >> > >>Dale Sellers > >>do not archive > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Richard Pike" > >>To: > >>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mid Atlantic Fly- in > >> > >> > >> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike > >> > > >> > Lumberton, NC > >> > http://www.celebrationofflightnc.com/ > >> > > >> > Richard Pike > >> > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:36 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 6 gallon tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: HShack@aol.com In a message dated 4/11/2005 10:37:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, rowedl@highstream.net writes: If anyone > finds > another source for a drop in tank over five gallons, please post it to the > list. > If the tanks don't pass your drop test, please let me know. I will go > back to the > factory original. > > Fly safe, > > Roger in Oregon > > Roger, You have convinced me to give these buggers a try, I can always switch back. Thanks. Denny If you are concerned about the strength of the tank, you can cut the top out of one, drill two 1/4" or so diameter holes in the bottom, heat it up 'till it gets pliable [we used a "jet engine" type space heater], & slide it over another tank [probably would be good to chill the inner tank w/ ice]. The tanks are cheap enough to make two in to one. Howard Shackleford FS II SC