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1. 05:41 AM - Re: firefly Prop (Jack & Louise Hart)
2. 06:54 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 04/15/05 (Comcast)
3. 07:30 AM - patching (robert bean)
4. 07:51 AM - Re: firefly Prop (Denny Rowe)
5. 07:54 AM - Re: firefly Prop (Herb Gayheart)
6. 08:05 AM - Re: firefly Prop (Herb Gayheart)
7. 12:51 PM - [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade... (Matt Dralle)
8. 12:57 PM - Re: firefly Prop (Jack & Louise Hart)
9. 01:54 PM - Re: test (Larry Bourne)
10. 08:01 PM - Re: firefly Prop (Don Gherardini)
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| Subject: | Re: firefly Prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
Herb,
I read where Richard Pike has already pointed you in all the right directions.
I hope you like your three blade prop on the 447. I flew for a while with a
60 inch three blade prop on my FireFly and I took it off to save weight and
because I like the sound of the two blade over the
three.
I am getting ready to ferry the FireFly to Indiana, and two days ago, I
removed the three blade prop from the Victor 1+ and mounted a 64 inch two
blade IVO. The three blade was quieter, but I did not like the white noise
sound that it made. I like the lower frequency beat sound of the two
blade.
Tomorrow, I will fly the FireFly on its last trip to Painton, Missouri to
the EAA Chapter 453 meeting. Two more weeks and we have to be out of the
house. I thought the FireFly was going to have to be hangared at Portland,
Indiana, but a hangar opened up at the airport (I22) just two miles from my
new residence at Winchester, Indiana. It is a little sad to be leaving a
neat bunch of guys here, but guys who fly, in general, are pretty neat.
Lots of airports within a 50 mile
radius.
As I have been flying about 10 minutes a month for the winter, I flew during
the middle of the day for about 45 minutes to get reacclimatized with
thermals, bumps and twisters. It was wonderful fun.
Good Luck with your FireFly. They can be incredible fun.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
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Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 04/15/05 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Comcast <davis207@comcast.net>
Herb,
re: Now I have to worry about punching a blade through the fabric!
Yes, you do! As someone on the list likes to say "Ask me how I know
that!" A solution is foam pipe insulation from Lowes, Home Depot, etc.
Cut to length, and slice from end to end. As part of post flight
checklist, place over prop leading edges. If you don't you will
eventually have a hole in your left wing about the same place I do.
Chuck
FF 028
Phoenixville, PA
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>Time: 09:46:16 PM PST US
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly Prop
>From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
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> The only reason for going to the three blade is that I and everyone
>else keeps bumping into the blades with the plane stored in one side of
>my garage. Now I have to worry about punching a blade through the
>fabric! Herb
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Hangar rash sufferers, Re: punching holes in fabric. This winter
while using the
top of my Kolb as a parts bench, doing some plumbing above it, I
dripped some
blue-dyed PVC primer on my fabric near the door. Whoops.
It was white paint so I tried an old can of "Plasti-Cote" vinyl spray.
Matched pretty good, and since it was meant for flexible surfaces,
should resist
cracking. It may yellow at a different rate than the stits paint
though.
-We shall see.
-BB, two steps forward, one in reverse
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| Subject: | Re: firefly Prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
Richard,
You da Man!
that was an excellent post.
Denny
Just cutting and burning brush in PA.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Gayheart" <herbgh@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly Prop
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
>
> Richard
>
> I have flown three hours + with the needle in wrong. New engine.
> Two blade prop 62 inch prop that was not performing well either. I had
> it out at least twice today and did not realize that it was wrong!!
> Thanks a bunch! Herb
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:48:18 -0400 Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
> writes:
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
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>> Yes, a three blade 60" ought to work fine. So...
>>
>> Too much oil in the air filter?
>>
>> Does it have point ignition? Timing is correct?
>>
>> The jet needle clip is against the metal carb slide and the white
>> nylon
>> gizmo that the spring pushes against is on top of the needle clip?
>> If you
>> have the needle in so that the clip is above the white nylon gizmo,
>> then it
>> will be way rich.
>>
>> Floats are set right? When you pull the float bowl off, the little
>> pin that
>> comes out of the side of the floats is about even with the gas?
>> Sometimes
>> floats go bad and sink, makes everything really rich.
>>
>> No grass seeds or stems holding the float needle off the seat? All
>> the
>> various jets are snug & tight against the castings? If you have a
>> jet back
>> itself out and get loose, the engine will go super rich. (Guess how
>> I know
>> this? Got the whole neighborhood really excited... lots of grass
>> stains and
>> cow poop on the airplane... weeds jammed between the aileron counter
>>
>> balances and the tips... at least a MKIII will fly back out of any
>> place
>> you can fly it into... with weeds hanging from between the gear legs
>> and
>> wheel pants, & wrapped around the lower stab wires... which got the
>>
>> neighbors even more excited... you really do want to avoid such
>> things if
>> at all possible... sigh...)
>>
>> Is your choke cable too short? All the choke (actually an enrichner
>> jet)
>> really is, is an auxiliary jet circuit that makes the mixture a lot
>> richer
>> when you actuate it, and if the cable is a hair short, then the
>> plunger
>> stays lifted off the seat a bit, and the enrichner circuit stays
>> open,
>> making everything really rich.
>>
>> Is your premix gas old?
>>
>> Richard Pike
>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>>
>>
>> At 09:47 PM 4/15/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
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>> >
>> >Firefly Guys
>> >
>> > I am trying to get a 60 inch three blade IVO prop to work on
>> my
>> >firefly with a 447. 2.58 to 1 gear box and 165 main jet. Pitch
>> of prop
>> >is neutral.
>> >
>> > The problem is that I cannot get rpms obove 4k. It bogs down
>> and goes
>> >into 4 cycle mode. Plugs are wet and black. I dropped the needle
>> all
>> >the way down and the rpms come up to 5500 or so.
>> >
>> > Is this an over size main jet problem. Kolb and IVO say that
>> the 3
>> >blade 60 inch prop should work. Herb in Ky
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| Subject: | Re: firefly Prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Jack
Yep!! I have the needle installed wrong! Wondering what rpms to
dial in statically?
My three hours have been exciting in the Firefly---sn 32. I took
divits with my first two landings. :-)
I flew with a two blade 62 ivo til now. I dialed the pitch for
about 6k or so static. Flew fine that way. I bought five IVO blades
from TNK a week or so ago and just now got around to installing them.
Anybody need two red blades?? 66 inch?
Sometime this summer or fall I am building a set of single lift
strut wings--ala Firestar. Gonna use the ribs from the Ultrastar that I
have ( I think they are the same rib?) I bought about 40 feet of second
hand , 5 inch Tube from Donnie and Travis.
The little bird flies nearly hands off with just a bit of nose down
tendency . I will trim that out with a bungee . I weigh 205 .
The ailerons are better now that I have gap seals. Still very stiff
however.
Hope that you find a bunch of flying buddies at your new home! Gonna
fly to Winchester?
Herb
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:40:48 -0500 Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
>
> Herb,
>
> I read where Richard Pike has already pointed you in all the right
> directions.
>
> I hope you like your three blade prop on the 447. I flew for a
> while with a
> 60 inch three blade prop on my FireFly and I took it off to save
> weight and
> because I like the sound of the two blade over the
> three.
>
>>
> > Jack B. Hart FF004
> Jackson, MO
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Jack & Louise Hart
> jbhart@ldd.net
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| Subject: | Re: firefly Prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Richard and Denny
Yep!! Good post. Thanks again! By the way--the filter is probably
oil logged by now! :-) Herb
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:50:31 -0400 "Denny Rowe" <rowedl@highstream.net>
writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe"
> <rowedl@highstream.net>
>
> Richard,
> You da Man!
> that was an excellent post.
>
> Denny
> Just cutting and burning brush in PA.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Gayheart" <herbgh@juno.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firefly Prop
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| Subject: | [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade... |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This includes
some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable processors -
as well as a complete operating system upgrade from scratch. I hope to
have both the old system and the new system running at the same time to
minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but a
few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show up
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just try posting it again.
Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
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deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
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I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
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| Subject: | Re: firefly Prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Jack & Louise Hart <jbhart@ldd.net>
At 09:51 AM 4/16/05 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
>
> Hope that you find a bunch of flying buddies at your new home! Gonna
>fly to Winchester?
>
> Herb
>
> do not archive
Herb,
Yes, My wife wants to gopher for me, so when there is a ten mph wind out of
the west or southwest we will launch. Planned route is from Perryville,
Missouri (K02)
to Salem, Illinois (SLO) - 72 miles
to Sullivan, Indiana (SIV) - 87 miles
to Franklin, Indiana (3FK) - 77 miles
to New Castle, Indiana (UWL) - 50 miles
to Winchester, Indiana (I22) - 30 miles
It is going to be a long day and would be much faster to use 100LL, but I
have been living with the lady for 40 plus years and she has tolerated my
first 11 years of retirement. Now that she is going to be retired too I
have to stay on her good side so that I can keep on flying.
The route is planned to keep me away from active areas and the chosen
airports are located at places with which my wife is familiar. The last two
short jumps are planned to let me rest up a little more as I near the end of
the trip. My wife will be reporting progress to our kids on the cell phone,
so there will be a reception waiting at I22. From New Castle, I will be
following my pickup so that my wife will get to I22 first to join in with
the arrival party.
Tomorrow, I will fly 110 miles round trip to my EAA Chapter 453 meeting and
it will give me a better idea of the fuel burn rate with the new prop. I
will flying pretty much at constant rpm of 5,500 rpm. This should give me
50+ mphi and a fuel burn rate of less than 2.5 gph. IF so, I will always
have at least a gallon of fuel left in the tank upon landing. With no tail
wind it will take 15.8 gallons of fuel and 6 hours 20 minutes air time. IF
I get the tail wind, it will take 13.2 gallons of fuel and 5 hours 16
minutes air time.
When the flight happens, I will keep a log and report how it turns out.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Jackson, MO
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Jack & Louise Hart
jbhart@ldd.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Wow ! ! ! All that, and creativity, too. But I just got back from the
river, (Colorado River) where I got skunked. How can I work on airplanes
and play in the river, too ?? Guess I gotta re-establish priorities, eh ??
It's definite - gonna hafta bum rides at MV again. :-) Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: test
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
>
> All is well. Flew the MKIII yesterday, clear and beautiful, visibility 50+
> Flew the Firestar II today, playing with the trim, still trying to get it
> just right.
> Flying to a local fly out tomorrow, hamburgers at noon.
>
> You need to get your airplane finished, dude.
>
> Remember the song by the Smothers Brothers?
> Suitably modified for Lar & the Kolb list -
>
> "I see by his MKIII that he is out flying,
> I see by my MKIII that I'm flying too.
> I see by our MKIII's that we are all flying,
> If Vamoose was finished you could be flying too..." <grin>
>
> Get back to work!
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> do not archive
> At 08:10 PM 4/14/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
>>
>>Hey, y'all ARE coming, eh ?? Great News ! ! ! I'm looking forward to
>>meeting you. I've had some problems with the List lately, and
>>thought
>>it had happened again. I didn't realize *everyone* was going to
>>SnF.........been lonesome out here. :-) Lar.
>>Do not Archive.
>>
>>Larry Bourne
>>Palm Springs, CA
>>Building Kolb Mk III
>>N78LB Vamoose
>>www.gogittum.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: firefly Prop |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
Herb...
I might take those 2 66 inch blades off your hands....if the price is
attractive....drop me a note with your price !!
Don Gherardini
FireFly 098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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