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1. 05:41 AM - Re: Sun (Airgriff2@aol.com)
2. 05:55 AM - Whelen Nav/Strobes (Rex Rodebush)
3. 07:58 AM - Re: Whelen Nav/Strobes (flycolt45@aol.com)
4. 08:58 AM - Whelen Nav/Strobes (Rex Rodebush)
5. 09:10 AM - Re: Sun & Fun (N27SB@aol.com)
6. 01:49 PM - Re: Whelen Nav/Strobes (John Hauck)
7. 08:13 PM - Re: firefly Tires (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
8. 09:58 PM - Re: Sun & Fun (GeoR38@aol.com)
9. 11:04 PM - Re: Sun (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Airgriff2@aol.com
Ed Writes
>
> >> Bob,
>>
>> Last time I went to S N F they charged a whole week of camping
>> even if
>> you just wanted to camp for 2 nights. They would not refund the
>> difference.
>> That is not fair. At least at Oshkosh they will refund the days you
>> don't use.
>>
>> Do you know if that is still the way they operate? If so I may never
>> go back!
>>
>> Yes, Ed, I arrived 2 days early, paid an extra $40 plus the full week of
>> camping regardless of how many nights I stayed. The show itself was great
>> as usual but the main campground was a bit less. Their rules say roping off
>> areas to save them ahead of time isn't allowed. As you ride around looking
>> for a spot you see roped areas all over and nothing is said. Also they say
>> no tents around the rim of the pond. I bet you could count 30 or 40 of them?
>> The vending and camp stores used to be run by local organizations from
>> Lakeland trying to raise money, such as boys & girls clubs. Now they are all
>> commercial and carnival type venders. Only food available in the main
>> campground, other than the corn roast, was from the "Cinnamon bun"unit which
got $5
>> + for a roll. Neither one of the camp stores ever opened up at all. I was
>> in a tent only area which is supposed to be quiet with no generators. Near by
>> was a refrigerated trailer unit running 24/7. Sorry to go on with the
>> little gripes, but don't blame the EAA. The local paper explained that Sun
& Fun
>> has dropped "EAA" from it's logo because they want people to realize that
>> the show is owned and operated by "Sun & Fun Inc.", not the EAA.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
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| Subject: | Whelen Nav/Strobes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
I bought the low amp Whelen kit that includes the A600PG & R wing tip
lights. These are the combination green/red, strobe, and white tail
light in one unit. I was laying out the mounting brackets this weekend
and took the cover off to check the mounting holes. These things are
not water tight! The lens retaining cover has small openings on the
side that would allow water in and the internal gaskets do not
completely seal the bulbs.
I know several of you guys have these units. Is this normal? Has
anyone ever had a problem with this? I guess I expected a heavy sealed
"off-road" type unit but this is definitely not the case.
Rex Rodebush
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| Subject: | Re: Whelen Nav/Strobes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: flycolt45@aol.com
RE: Strobes.
For those who don't know, Dick Kunzleman now has L.E.D. position lights. I stopped
by the Kunzleman Electronincs tent at S&F and checked out his system. They
are new this year and it was his first opportunity to show them off. They
also come with strobes so that you get left/ right (Red/Green) L.E.D. indicators
and well as wing tip strobe visibility. A less expensive alternative than
Whelen - & Dick IS one of US : ). He still has his Kolb MKII that received
Sun & Fun's "Best Craftsmanship Award" for 1998. I've used his strobes/
hot box and other products (4 Kolb planes), over the years and have always been
more than satisfied with the quality of his products and his willingness to
assist.
His shop number is: (612) 326-9068
Jim FL/PA
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Rex Rodebush <rrodebush@tema.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Whelen Nav/Strobes
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
I bought the low amp Whelen kit that includes the A600PG & R wing tip
lights. These are the combination green/red, strobe, and white tail
light in one unit. I was laying out the mounting brackets this weekend
and took the cover off to check the mounting holes. These things are
not water tight! The lens retaining cover has small openings on the
side that would allow water in and the internal gaskets do not
completely seal the bulbs.
I know several of you guys have these units. Is this normal? Has
anyone ever had a problem with this? I guess I expected a heavy sealed
"off-road" type unit but this is definitely not the case.
Rex Rodebush
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| Subject: | Whelen Nav/Strobes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
I think I found my answer. Page 15 of the Whelen installation manual
says:
"WATERPROOFING OF STROBE LIGHT SYSTEMS: When necessary to waterproof
the installation of a strobe light mounting to the aircraft, apply
GE....RTV...
around the open area where water could get in"
Has anybody done this? I guess it will work but I think it's really
half assed that a supposedly "high end" system requires that you spread
gumucky around it to seal it up.
Rex Rodebush
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com
Hello to all,
SnF was a great show, Bryan and I commuted from my home in Longwood for 7
days, 2 hours each way. We got up at 05:30 and usually got back at about 23:00.
Really long week. I hope that I got to talk to everyone that had a question
but at times we got really backed up. EAA wanted to do pictures of the FireFly
on floats for a cover but Sat and Sun were too windy so we lost out. I even
forgot to take pictures of the booth so if anyone got any I would like a copy.
Steve Boetto
Firefly 007
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Whelen Nav/Strobes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Has anybody done this? I guess it will work but I think it's really
> half assed that a supposedly "high end" system requires that you spread
> gumucky around it to seal it up.
>
> Rex Rodebush
Rex/All:
Sorry I could not respond sooner. Up here in Yankee Land, Indianapolis, IN.
Believe you will have a difficult time finding a better system than Whelen.
Been using mine, on the MKIII since March 1992. A pleasure to have a strobe
system that does not need overhauling every month or so. Have found no
reason to use anything to seal the light/strobe heads. Water does not seem
to be a problem for me and I have the same lights you have.
Back in the "true" ultralight days of Illusion Aircraft, a kit we built from
scratch, our strobe systems failed on a regular basis.
A note for insuring continued good use out of any strobe system is to fire
here off for 15 or 20 minutes a month as a minimum. This keeps the
capacitors alive. I made the mistake and let mine sit for several months
without use and lost the capacitors. Other than that they are the best one
can buy, in my book.
Take care,
john h
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| Subject: | Re: firefly Tires |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Flycrazy8@aol.com
Hi You' all Kolbers,
I was wanting to get some bigger tires for my Firefly than the small Azura
tires that is presently on it...... Does anyone have any experience with what
works best ??... I have heel brakes on the Firefly I have and would also like
to put some wheel pants on tooo..... Thanking you in advance for your
help.....
Stephen
Bama Firefly
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: GeoR38@aol.com
In a message dated 4/17/2005 9:53:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rswiderski@earthlink.net writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Swiderwski" <
> rswiderski@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello Kolbers,
>
> George Randolph &I just got back from S &F tonite. It was a
> shocker to see the camping ®istration fees-- well over $200 for 2 people
> for more than 3 days! It is still the premiere UL/Sport Plane/Experimental
> gathering of aviation, but I sure miss the good old days when it was
> affordable ¬ so over regulated with silly rules. We had a great time at
> the Kolb gathering on Friday nite. We had a great bunch with great stories.
> It was really nice to see old friends &put faces on some of our Kolb
> Listers. The weather was extreme for a Florida Spring. The cold blustering
> wind was unrelenting. Steve Green's hotdog grilling technique sure beat
> George's beans of last year. HEY!! GEORGE HERE SAYIN THAT I AGREE WITH
> EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE LAST SENTENCE....ALTHO, I MUST ADMIT...STEVE DID A
> WONDERFUL JOB ON THOSE DOGS
> Personally I enjoyed the forums a great deal &learned some good
> stuff. Time for bed. ...Richard Swiderski
> NEXT YEAR RICH AND I WILL BE THERE WITH........DANCIN GIRLS?...NAW THAT WOULD
SCARE EVERYONE AWAY
GEORGE RANDOLPH
FIRSTAR DRIVER FROM THE VILLAGES, FL
PS NICE TO SEE GARY OF KOLB, GEORGE ALEXANDER, GENE LEDBETTER, AND DUANE
THE PLANE, JOHN WILLIAMSON, JIM, AND 4 OR 5 OTHERS THAT JUMPED IN AND SCOOTED
BECAUSE OF THE WIND. WE DID FINALLY HAVE A NICE CAMPFIRE THOUGH.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com
In a message dated 4/18/2005 7:41:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Airgriff2@aol.com writes:
Bob Writes,
has dropped "EAA" from it's logo because they want people to realize that
>> the show is owned and operated by "Sun & Fun Inc.", not the EAA.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
Bob,
If there was a way to get every one who is not rich enough to go both
to Oshkosh AND Sun N Fun each year to unite and just go to Oshkosh next
year I bet that would get their attention. I guess its like the sports teams
. They will keep raising ticket prices as long as enough people will pay the
price. Whew guess Ive said too much already, but I dont have all the money
in the world. Hope everyone who was able to go, got there moneys worth.
Ed ( in Houston)
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