---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/21/05:23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:09 AM - Re: Sun'nFun website update (dama) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: Sun'nFun website update (N27SB@aol.com) 3. 05:16 AM - Sun N Fun (skyrider2) 4. 06:02 AM - Re: Sun N Fun (Christopher Armstrong) 5. 06:23 AM - Homer Kolb (FlyColt45@aol.com) 6. 06:25 AM - Re: Sun N Fun (Don Gherardini) 7. 06:38 AM - $$$$$ (robert bean) 8. 06:43 AM - Re: Monument Valley (ghaley@wt.net) 9. 07:19 AM - Re: Bryce Cyn and on to Monument Valley (ghaley@wt.net) 10. 07:35 AM - ANN (James, Ken) 11. 07:48 AM - Re: Sun N Fun (Christopher Armstrong) 12. 08:03 AM - SWRFI (Michael Sharp) 13. 08:08 AM - Re: Sun N Fun (Larry Bourne) 14. 08:32 AM - Flight test report (confession) (H MITCHELL) 15. 08:39 AM - Re: SWRFI (Robert Laird) 16. 08:45 AM - Re: SWRFI (ghaley@wt.net) 17. 09:50 AM - Weatherstripping (Bob and Jenn B) 18. 10:06 AM - Re: $$$$$ aka where the money is (Bob N.) 19. 10:39 AM - Re: Flight test report (confession) (John Williamson) 20. 10:39 AM - Re: SWRFI (John Williamson) 21. 03:08 PM - Re: Weatherstripping (bryan green) 22. 03:13 PM - Re: Weatherstripping (FyrFlyr0V5@aol.com) 23. 04:59 PM - Re: Weatherstripping (DAquaNut@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:00 AM PST US From: "dama" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun'nFun website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: "dama" Thanks for sharing the pics and story line, John! PS, is you plane still for sale? Just wondering how you planned to get around without the Kolbra. Kip http://www.springeraviation.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williamson" Subject: Kolb-List: Sun'nFun website update > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" > > Hi ya'all, > > I finally made time to update my website and add the photos taken on this > just completed trip to Sun'nFun. > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot > > Sorry to hear all the grumbling about the state of affairs at Sun'nFun. I > had a great time and like to share some of my flying adventures with those > that that can't do it themselves for what ever the reason. > > Hope somebody will enjoy the photos and inspire them to make some trips and > post some more photos. > > John Williamson > Arlington, TX > > Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 748 hours > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:18 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun'nFun website update --> Kolb-List message posted by: N27SB@aol.com In a message dated 4/21/2005 2:42:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, kolbrapilot@comcast.net writes: > Sorry to hear all the grumbling about the state of affairs at Sun'nFun. I > had a great time and like to share some of my flying adventures with those > that that can't do it themselves for what ever the reason. > > I don't mean to sound bitter. I agree, I had a great time, but it was because I got to catch up with everyone I have met over the years. I'm just concerned about what direction this thing is going. Steve do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:59 AM PST US From: "skyrider2" Subject: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "skyrider2" Beauford, Sorry I missed seeing you at Lakeland this year. Bonnie and I only had Thursday afternoon to take in the "show". I too was disappointed with the price to gain admission. The $4.00 lemonades are kinda high, but sure taste good on a hot afternoon. At any rate, I don't think we'll be coming back to Sun N Fun anytime soon. $50.00 bucks to get the two of us in for just about 5 hours of "droolin' " time. I noticed another aircraft (besides Kolbs) while I was there. It's a neat little glass plane that's being imported by one of my old hang gliding buddies, Tom Peghiny. It's named the CT and they demo'd it from the Ultralight grass strip. Nice little plane, but when I asked 'em how much $$$, they said $85,000.00 plus options. And the wings don't even fold or remove easily. It just doesn't seem like the old days of ultralighting at that price. Maybe the aircraft have to cost more because of the greed of the show operators. And partially the exchange rate of the dollar. I still want a MkIII x. Value, Convenience, Safety, and FUN !!! Wife says I have to sell the other 2 planes first. Ya'll Fly Safely, Doug Lawton NE Georgia & Whitwell TN Matthews Field & Gliderport ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:52 AM PST US From: "Christopher Armstrong" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" Not one to miss a chance to pontificate at will (and we will...and will... and will), here's what most impressed us this week -- and what didn't. AND when all this noise is said and done, we're FINALLY going to drop THE bomb on everyone... with a MAJOR announcement that is the result of many year's observation of Lakeland and dozens or other fly-in and airshows... Stay tuned... this one is gonna be a doozie. Above from ANN newsletter today. Should be interesting to here Jim Campbell's rant on this one. He has had a serious bad blood feud with the sun n fun people for years, so this should be no holds bared! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:00 AM PST US From: FlyColt45@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Homer Kolb --> Kolb-List message posted by: FlyColt45@aol.com For all of you that will be making the trip to Homer's on Father's Day, he'll have some new things to show you around the farm. (I spent Monday afternoon with him & he showed me a few of his newest projects :) The guy just doesn't stop! I've know Homer, like a lot of us and the old Kolb company for many years, (& live 5 minutes from him - when I'm in PA), but this was the first time I ever saw his 4 engine Kolb : } && from what he was telling me - someday when he's caught up on his projects - he will do another iteration using modern tech and lessons learned. It's a funny looking little creature with 4 small props. He was telling me about it and how it flew, that it weighs less than a pilot. He now has it suspended in his hanger/museum, along with 5-6 other earlier designs. Anyway, I just wanted to convey his & his wife's greetings to all. He asked if I monitored this site, (he's been too busy to), and asked to be caught up on the recent topics. And for those who may want to know - he takes his fire star up whenever he gets the chance. Monday in PA was a beautiful, still, late afternoon to fly - but for Homer, there were tractors, mills, pond, cabins and other things to work on : ) Jim Pa/Fl ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:54 AM PST US From: "Don Gherardini" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" CHris, What is the ANN newsletter?...and is it online? Don Gherardini OEM.Sales / Engineering dept. American Honda Engines Power Equipment Company CortLand, Illinois 800-626-7326 do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:52 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: $$$$$ --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean Kolbers, listening to the beefs about high prices, you have to face the fact that there is a dual economy now. The haves and the hava-lots. If you are selling stuff it makes sense to sell to those with the bucks. When asked why he robbed banks, John Dillinger said, "because that's where the money is" It comes down to different strokes for different folks. I have no desire for a zippy plastic plane with a glass cockpit that I can't figure out how to use. -Some do, and I can't begrudge them. Some think living in a high-rise in Naples,FL would be the greatest. I'd rather live in the woods in southern Vermont. There is an abundance of activities that feel right for you, go to them. Kolb related: I've got the little Geo engine apart and inspecting and measuring. Cute little bugger, and I mean LITTLE! Can't imagine how it flew me and my corpulent Kolb last year, let alone fast taxi. -Looks good so far. -BB do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:45 AM PST US From: ghaley@wt.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley --> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net Right now I'm planning to join up for the trip to the Alvord Desert with the John's. From there it's up in the air. I had originally planned to come down through California but I would also like to be home for Memorial Day. I think I'll take the old Kolb up, turn it loose and see which way it goes. Gary > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > > Thanks, Gary. That raft ride is a real pleasure, and a > nice way to spend a morning. You're coming a long > way......will you be grouping up with John W., Dave and > Will ?? Lar. Do not > Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > N78LB Vamoose > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley > > > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net > > > > Larry, > > > > Thanks for the narrative on Monument Valley and the > > surrounding areas. > > I am flying my Kolb Mark III to MV and will arrive on > > Thursday May 19th if all goes as planned. My wife will > > be joining me on Friday and staying until Monday AM. > > > ==== > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:27 AM PST US From: ghaley@wt.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bryce Cyn and on to Monument Valley --> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net Erick, I might just do that since I am leaving early and have a few days to kill. Keep me posted. Gary Haley, Kolb Mark IIIc/912ULS Dry Creek Airport (TS07), Cypress, TX Do Not Archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com > > Boyd Young and I have agreed to rendezvous at Bryce Cyn > airport sometime Tuesday, May 17 to take in the sights > before heading over to Monument Valley on Thursday. Boyd > will be flying in while I will be trailering. The plan is > to camp in the Bryce area, either at the airport if it > looks ok, or possibly at Ruby's Inn which is fairly close > by and has pretty much anything you would need to get by. > We invite all others to join us, as possible. If we miss > you at Bryce, we'll catch you at MV. > > regards > > Erich Weaver > > > ==== > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:34 AM PST US From: "James, Ken" Subject: Kolb-List: ANN --> Kolb-List message posted by: "James, Ken" http://www.aero-news.net/ current up-to-date new on all aviation items Ken James ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:23 AM PST US From: "Christopher Armstrong" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" http://aero-news.net/ Jim "Zoom" Cambell who has published aviation magazines in the past (USAviator, among others) now has the Aero-News Network, which is a web based aviation news service, and daily aviation newsletter. They email it to you every night, it covers every aspect of aviation, not just sport aviation. The web site (above) will let you sign up if you're interested. The Sun n fun people have had court orders to keep Jim off the convention grounds in the past, since he reports the good the bad and the ugly, and they don't want people to hear about the bad and the ugly. Jim has reported about the safety issues, the outrageous costs and the ridiculous attendance figures in the past, so it will be interesting to here his rant on Sun n Fun this year. I for one hope he has been able to find out the salaries being paid to the people who run this "Non Profit" organization! The rough estimates of income from the show are in the millions, and since most of the work is done by volunteers, where does all this "non profit" money go? My guess is a few guys are getting rich... Topher -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Gherardini Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don Gherardini" CHris, What is the ANN newsletter?...and is it online? Don Gherardini OEM.Sales / Engineering dept. American Honda Engines Power Equipment Company CortLand, Illinois 800-626-7326 do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:23 AM PST US From: Michael Sharp Subject: Kolb-List: SWRFI --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp Changeing the subject from SNF. Is anyone going to SWRFI this year? I know there are several Kolbers in Texas, perhaps we can have a meet and greet in Hondo? Mike ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:44 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Jim Campbell's still around ?? That should be something to read. Keep us posted please. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III N78LB Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Armstrong" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Sun N Fun > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Christopher Armstrong" > > > Not one to miss a chance to pontificate at will (and we will...and will... > and will), here's what most impressed us this week -- and what didn't. AND > when all this noise is said and done, we're FINALLY going to drop THE > bomb > on everyone... with a MAJOR announcement that is the result of many year's > observation of Lakeland and dozens or other fly-in and airshows... Stay > tuned... this one is gonna be a doozie. > > > Above from ANN newsletter today. Should be interesting to here Jim > Campbell's rant on this one. He has had a serious bad blood feud with the > sun n fun people for years, so this should be no holds bared! > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:52 AM PST US From: "H MITCHELL" Subject: Kolb-List: Flight test report (confession) Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:32:13 -0400 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "H MITCHELL" 'Morning Guys, It has been said (many, many times) that confession is good for the soul, well here goes. I took 7078A out for some landing configuration tests Mon AM. Standard day, calm and clear. The grass was long so I used the hard runway. Made two good touch-and-goes. The first was without flaps, 55 mph on high final, 40-45 mph touchdown, scored a good "8". Climb-out indicated 1200 FPM. The second was with one notch of flaps, same final and touchdown speeds and scoring another "8" and 1,000'/min climbout. I continued around the pattern with the one notch of flaps and set up final as usual. I planned to test her at a slower touchdown speed this time (a la soft field landing). I didn't think we were too far off the asphalt when she settled in but I'll be replacing the left main gear this afternoon. It is not pretzel-bent but I prefer to have them straight. Keep Your Airspeed ! Duane the plane Mitchell, Mk3 912, ~29 Hrs ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:46 AM PST US Subject: re: Kolb-List: SWRFI From: "Robert Laird" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" FYI: Weather permitting, of course, I hope to fly over from Houston... probably fly in Saturday morning and leave late Saturday afternoon. -- Robert -------- Original Message -------- > From: Michael Sharp > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:03 AM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: SWRFI > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp > > Changeing the subject from SNF. > > Is anyone going to SWRFI this year? I know there are several Kolbers in Texas, perhaps we can have a meet and greet in Hondo? > > Mike > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:27 AM PST US From: ghaley@wt.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SWRFI --> Kolb-List message posted by: ghaley@wt.net Mike, I plan to be at Hondo for SWRFI in my Mark III. I plan to go up on Friday and stay Saturday leaving on Sunday AM for Mounuent Valley. Gary Haley, Kolb mark III 912/ULS Dry Creek Airport (TS07) Cypress, TX do not archive > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Sharp > > > Changeing the subject from SNF. > > Is anyone going to SWRFI this year? I know there are > several Kolbers in Texas, perhaps we can have a meet and > greet in Hondo? > > Mike > > > ==== > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:59 AM PST US From: "Bob and Jenn B" Subject: Kolb-List: Weatherstripping --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" Where can I get the weatherstripping used around the front of the canopy that slides onto the lexan and seals against the nose cone? Tried Home Depot but they didn't carry it. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:58 AM PST US From: "Bob N." Subject: Re: Kolb-List: $$$$$ aka where the money is --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob N." Bob, It was Willie Sutton who said "because that's where the money is." Bob N. do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:01 AM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Flight test report (confession) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Hi Duane and all, During any of my testing that required a runway, I used the center third of the runway for the landing and takeoff. That way I could screw up the approach or roundout and still not have to worry about landing short. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 748 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:57 AM PST US From: "John Williamson" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: SWRFI --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" Mike and all, I will be at SWRFI on Friday during lunch and leave that afternoon. John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 748 hours http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:05 PM PST US From: bryan green Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Weatherstripping --> Kolb-List message posted by: bryan green Aircraft Spruce Bob and Jenn B wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bob and Jenn B" > >Where can I get the weatherstripping used around the front of the canopy >that slides onto the lexan and seals against the nose cone? Tried Home >Depot but they didn't carry it. > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:15 PM PST US From: FyrFlyr0V5@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Weatherstripping --> Kolb-List message posted by: FyrFlyr0V5@aol.com I used rubber channel from Aircraft Spruce part #1 P/N 05--1300 page 126 2002 catalog, 88 cents/foot, 12 foot lengths. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:59:43 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Weatherstripping --> Kolb-List message posted by: DAquaNut@aol.com In a message dated 4/21/2005 11:51:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, tabberdd@hotmail.com writes: Where can I get the weatherstripping used around the front of the canopy that slides onto the lexan and seals against the nose cone? Tried Home Depot but they didn't carry it. Bob, I saw some of that stuff over at the local aircraft supply here in Houston. Maybe they will have some at your nearest aircraft supply, If not maybe try The New Kolb. Ed Do Not Archive